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(Something Else Reviews)   Neil Young just stopped a concert to tell a clapping Carnegie Hall audience: Dude, you're doing it wrong   (somethingelsereviews.com) divider line 40
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2014-01-10 02:39:28 AM
If he thinks that's bad he oughta try getting them to clap in nine...
 
2014-01-10 02:48:30 AM
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2014-01-10 02:56:43 AM
Neil Young vindicates me!  I've never been to a country that does group clapping worse than America!  They start on time, and then speed way the hell up.  It's infuriating.  I know, Lighten Up Francis.
 
2014-01-10 03:22:56 AM
According to statistics that I recently wrote down on a cocktail napkin, musical disability afflicts one out of every two human beings, and a far higher proportion of Republican convention delegates. Few sights on Earth are as pathetic as when, at a Republican function, the hired band ("Earl LaRue and His Accordions of Passion") breaks into a true GOP rocker such as "Bad, Bad LeRoy Brown" and the delegates, feeling funky, attempt to clap along, and they all get it wrong.

To understand what I mean by "wrong," try this simple Ray Charles Clapping Test: You sing "Hit the Road, Jack" and you clap along. If you clap this way - "Hit the road (clap) Jack (clap)" - then you are normal. But if you clap this way - "Hit the (clap), (clap)" - you are musically disabled, at least in the rhythm area. If you don't even know "Hit the Road Jack," you should contact the Republicans, because you are delegate material.


--Dave Barry
 
2014-01-10 03:32:10 AM
I saw him with Crazy Horse at the Hollywood Bowl last year, he's still got IT. 2 hours of loud guitars and jamming and 15 minute songs, it was fantastic.

/Electric Neil for me
//Never want to hear Heart of Gold ever again
 
2014-01-10 04:19:15 AM
I watched the video and the white male newscaster made me all stabby.

imageshack.com Clap in time, or shut up.
 
2014-01-10 06:42:43 AM
See also: Billy Dee Williams at the end of Return of the Jedi
 
2014-01-10 06:50:33 AM
Darn, too big the first time

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-10 07:18:47 AM

red5ish: I watched the video and the white male newscaster made me all stabby.


They all made me stabby.

Link to the video without 4 stupid infotainment bastards making stupid jokes and acting stupid in general:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YnUrkUqOl0
 
2014-01-10 07:36:20 AM
I think Neil Young is a pretty cool guy. Eh tells his audience to clap in time and doesn't afraid of anything.
 
2014-01-10 07:50:27 AM
There is a saying about biting and hands that feed.
Since he is pretty much in a non relevant state except to old stoner fans, no one cares.  He should stay home and play with his Lionel's
 
2014-01-10 08:19:06 AM
I've never understood why people make noise at concerts.
 
2014-01-10 08:24:38 AM
This is what happens when white people clap to music.

/My wife used to make me go to church, but stopped because I would always make fun of the people clapping on 1 and 3 of the beat and they were always dragging.  Only white people clap on 1 and 3.
//musician
 
2014-01-10 08:28:42 AM
Chris Rock?
 
2014-01-10 08:34:16 AM

macadamnut: I've never understood why people make noise at concerts.


Depends on the type of music, but usually I can't stand it when people don't make noise at concerts. Wasn't folk music originally meant to be a shared experience, to be sang and clapped-along with? You want no noise, that's what the album is for. Or go to a classical concert. The arena is not your personal PA system.

Delay is a biatch, though. With the delay and all the natural reverb at Carnegie Hall, he was probably hearing claps up to 200-300 ms behind the beat, which is unnerving at best.

And Dave Barry is right - if you clap on 1 & 3, you are completely musically inept. You are the snare drum, the back beat - 2 & 4.
 
2014-01-10 08:52:34 AM
You have no idea how many times I've been tempted to do that.

What's always funny about when the audience claps along but to the wrong tempo is the way the clapping slowly dies out as they realize they're not clapping at the right tempo. The embarrassment is palpable.
 
2014-01-10 08:53:40 AM
I dreamt I woke up and I was white. You tellin' me, Brother Man. I had this sudden urge to start clappin' on one and three.Then I started listenin' to all this weird music like Creedence Clearwater Revival and uh.. uh.. Three Dogs in the Night.Then I found myself eating cream cheese and bagels.Then, I don't know why, but I had this sudden urge to start chasing after women with flat asses...
 
2014-01-10 08:56:01 AM
"That clapping's messing my head up man. I appreciate it. But I was trying to think of the next line, and all I hear is clapping!"

/yes i know it wasn't that kind of situation, but it was the only thing i could think of
 
2014-01-10 09:20:55 AM

gfid: They all made me stabby.

Link to the video without 4 stupid infotainment bastards making stupid jokes and acting stupid in general:



Who are these people? Icon Icon Icon Icon. Did they just learn this word and are trying it out?
 
2014-01-10 09:28:19 AM

Charlie Freak: macadamnut: I've never understood why people make noise at concerts.

Depends on the type of music, but usually I can't stand it when people don't make noise at concerts.


A silent audience sucks the energy right out of a performance (music or otherwise) but at the same time inappropriate noise can ruin a performance.

In theatre we have what we call the Canadian audience. They're watching you, paying very close attention and enjoying the performance but they're being very quiet out of a misguided sense of politeness.

It's like some of the audience are going "Shhhh! Shhhh! Stop laughing. They're acting. Can't you see they're acting? Yes I know it's funny but let us ALL enjoy the performance please." It's always great when you get a big laugher, someone loud and boisterous who laughs at all the right moments and lets the audience know it's okay to laugh.

But a single audience member who makes inappropriate noise at the wrong times can completely tank a performance.

There was one play I was in where I had a scene that as an actor you just love to play. Everything about this scene was brilliant and all added up to have a very big impact. I was playing a criminal who reveals to his partner that he fell into this life of crime because he needed the protection of this organization after he had committed an unspeakable act.

I start telling him this story of how I worked as a janitor at a school and I liked the kids, and they all liked me but there was this one little girl... And as my story gets darker and more disturbing the lighting slowly gets dimmer and dimmer. The audience doesn't even notice it's happening because they're focused on the lulling sounds of my deep voice and soft Louisiana drawl. And my story starts to become more disturbing and more graphic until finally my partner can't take it any more and shouts out "Enough already! I get it!" and the lighting it brought in an instant back up to the intensity it was before the scene started and suddenly the audience is aware that they didn't even realize the lights were slowly dimming and they're hit with just how sick what I was saying was. It was the kind of scene every actor would kill to play.

People would tell me afterwards in the lobby that that scene had profoundly disturbed them because while I was telling it they didn't feel how wrong what I was saying was. I was talking about raping a little girl but the way the scene played out I was seducing them into my tale and they were just going along with it and letting it happen. And when the lights were suddenly brought up it woke them out of this quiet seduction and they suddenly realized how farked up everything I was saying was. People would tell me that suddenly jarring realization actually made them feel physically sick to their stomachs.

That's gold for an actor. To be able to play a scene like that where you can take the audience on such a ride is what every actor longs for. But it all depends on so many elements to come together just right. Every night I did that scene there was not a sound to be heard from the audience, not a cough, not a whisper, not a breath. Just pure silence.

....

Except for one night. One night this little old lady in the front row decided that this quiet scene in another wise loud and busy play would be the absolute perfect moment to clean out and organize her purse. So she dumped her purse out on her lap. Then picked out her car keys and jangled them into a little pocket inside the purse. Then her wallet and lipstick, spilling empty Werther's Originals wrappers all over the floor which she bent over to scoop up in a crinkling heap knocking little containers of whatever it is little old ladies keep little containers of in their purse from her lap to clatter onto the floor. And instead of being seduced into my dark tale all eyes were focused on this little old lady and pondering why she would pick that moment to clean out her purse then they noticed "hey why are the lights getting dimmer" and looked up at the lights.

So while I was doing this monologue an angry voice inside my head was screaming at me to stop and say in an overly polite tone "I'm sorry, is our play disturbing you? I mean I can only imagine how very important it is to have a clean and tidy purse so if you'd like we can just stop this play for awhile so that you can get your purse in order. Just let us know when you're finished and we'll go right back to the play. The important thing is that you have a clean and organized purse and I'm sure the rest of the actors and the audience would agree with me on this". Of course I didn't because you really don't do that kind of thing no matter how cathartic it would be.
 
2014-01-10 10:44:12 AM
If he doesn't do a cover of "Whip your hair" in concert it's just not worth it to me.
 
2014-01-10 10:56:04 AM
Saw Neil at Deer Creek near Indy in the 90's. Did a solo acoustic show including a foot pedaled calliope for Hurricane. Excellent show! Saw him at Voodoo in Nola year before last. Complete feedback symphony, which was fine, but it seemed to blow in a pretty big stormfront and the wind gusted and tempurature's fell about 20 degrees during his set. Powerful, and watching all the sad fairies (Halloween weekend) in skimpy outfits shuddering in the cold was entertaining.

Saw Buddy Guy tell an Indy area audience to stop singing along because they had no soul and were messing up the song. George Clinton also told his band to quit prompting the crowd during the call and response. So few people knew the words that he just moved on to  a different tune. Never saw the likes of it anywhere else.

/When I'm the coolest guy in the room, the room got problems.
 
2014-01-10 11:17:19 AM

shabu: /When I'm the coolest guy in the room, the room got problems.



Serious LOL.  Stealin' that.
 
2014-01-10 11:38:58 AM

Charlie Freak: macadamnut: I've never understood why people make noise at concerts.

Depends on the type of music, but usually I can't stand it when people don't make noise at concerts. Wasn't folk music originally meant to be a shared experience, to be sang and clapped-along with? You want no noise, that's what the album is for. Or go to a classical concert. The arena is not your personal PA system.


If it's a fast tempo song, go ahead. If it's Tarja singing a somber, melodic tune, just respectfully soak it in. Too many videos on YouTube have some idiot shouting during Ghost Love Score.
 
2014-01-10 11:45:54 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: If he doesn't do a cover of "Whip your hair" in concert it's just not worth it to me.


Ha, I was watching that the other day, had to explain to my 11 year old who the two men were...

//kids these days
///get off my lawn
 
2014-01-10 11:53:16 AM

shabu: Saw Neil at Deer Creek near Indy in the 90's. Did a solo acoustic show including a foot pedaled calliope for Hurricane.



It was a pump or "parlor" organ.  They used to be common in Victorian households.  I know a couple people who still have them.

Neil blessed released the solo organ version of "Hurricane" on his MTV Unplugged set.  It's really good.
 
2014-01-10 12:28:01 PM
Your clapping needs more barn.
 
2014-01-10 12:42:42 PM
when i was in college i saw the band live (you know, the guys who did "lightning crashes").  anyway, they do this long musical interlude thing and the crowd is kind of clapping along, and the lead singer waits for awhile and then laughs and basically tells the crowd they are totally doing it wrong, and then instructs them what the actual beat of the song is supposed to be.  it was the first concert i ever went to, and i found it funny to see a lead singer having to explain to the crowd how to clap along.
 
2014-01-10 01:09:08 PM
i remember this at a wynton marsalis concert, which made sense because the audience was all old rich white people in texas, and the rhythm was based on some pure maths only pythagorus would recognize.
 
2014-01-10 01:29:31 PM
 
2014-01-10 02:34:50 PM
Even worse when the whole audience got the Clap.
 
2014-01-10 02:42:20 PM

largedon: This is what happens when white propagation delay makes it impossible for people at large concerts to clap in time to the music.

 
2014-01-10 02:46:07 PM
Eh, after actually watching the video, it appears you were correct.
 
2014-01-10 03:29:03 PM

largedon: This is what happens when white people clap to music.

/My wife used to make me go to church, but stopped because I would always make fun of the people clapping on 1 and 3 of the beat and they were always dragging.  Only white people clap on 1 and 3.
//musician


That is why punk and speed metal put the snare on the 1 and 3 and there isn't a brother to be found in any of those bands.
 
2014-01-10 04:05:21 PM

shabu: Saw him at Voodoo in Nola year before last. Complete feedback symphony, which was fine, but it seemed to blow in a pretty big stormfront and the wind gusted and tempurature's fell about 20 degrees during his set.


You're not kidding.  I went to Voodoo in 2009- exact same thing happened!  NOLA in October can have some bizarre temperature swings.  It can be 75 degrees one minute... then within 20 minutes, fall to 55 degrees.  (This is not hyperbole.)
 
2014-01-10 04:30:48 PM
And then you have the country music fans, clapping on one and three.
 
2014-01-10 04:34:43 PM

largedon: people clapping on 1 and 3


Charlie Freak: if you clap on 1 & 3, you are completely musically inept


that was my nickname in highschool: I dreamt I woke up and I was white. You tellin' me, Brother Man. I had this sudden urge to start clappin' on one and three.


I should have read the thread first. White people, country fans, tomato/tomahto.
 
2014-01-10 04:47:29 PM

shabu: Saw Neil at Deer Creek near Indy in the 90's. Did a solo acoustic show including a foot pedaled calliope for Hurricane. Excellent show! Saw him at Voodoo in Nola year before last. Complete feedback symphony, which was fine, but it seemed to blow in a pretty big stormfront and the wind gusted and tempurature's fell about 20 degrees during his set. Powerful, and watching all the sad fairies (Halloween weekend) in skimpy outfits shuddering in the cold was entertaining.

Saw Buddy Guy tell an Indy area audience to stop singing along because they had no soul and were messing up the song. George Clinton also told his band to quit prompting the crowd during the call and response. So few people knew the words that he just moved on to  a different tune. Never saw the likes of it anywhere else.

/When I'm the coolest guy in the room, the room got problems.


I saw Lucinda Williams get so drunk she started yelling at the audience. Classics like "what are you, on psychadelics!?!" and "hey i'm just trying to make a living up here!". She also stopped a song halfway through, moved the capo up one fret and started again from the beginning. That was a great show.
 
2014-01-10 05:31:51 PM
Of course, he was actually just asking for a bottle of water, but it sounded vaguely like a long-winded rant on clapping..
 
2014-01-11 12:14:27 AM
Is this the same Neil Young that thinks his autograph is worth 390 bucks?
 
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