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(Chicago Trib)   Both a park district and public library rejected a $3,000 cash donation by a man because of his staunch atheism, but a food pantry gladly accepted the money, because they're not assholes   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 193
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2014-01-10 01:29:58 AM
so long as the donation does not have some assnine condition set on it, you shut up and take it.

There seems to be no conditions on this guy's donation.

Its a damn sad thing people in charge of Orgaizations that depend on charitable donations let politics and religion get in the way.
 
2014-01-10 01:30:25 AM

Slartibartfaster: ongbok: So it stands to reason why they would not only research were a large donation came from, but also reject some, as unfortunate as it is.

Which reason does this stand to ?


Common sense. If you are politically motivated or your job can be effected by politicians, you are going to make damn sure that you fall on the right side of the politicians and their base. That includes that if you are in charge of a department in government that accepts donations, and you are in a heavy religious district, you are going to make damn sure that large donations don't come from people that may upset the religious base. It is sad, but that is the way things are.
 
2014-01-10 01:31:03 AM

Paris1127: Those comments are something:

The comments regarding this story are just the tip of the iceberg.

Google 'hateful atheists,' maybe they're overcompensating for their lack of faith. These atheists remind me of another radicalized, publicity seeking minority group...one wonders if there's a connection?


Comments on comments on comments? And now I'm commenting on that? This is too meta for me.
 
2014-01-10 01:31:14 AM

Slartibartfaster: Popular Opinion: more people i know that have never been to any church that hate gays than people that claim to be christian.

odd Ive never met these "more people"


here's a hint, they are the fats. Lots of 'em these days.
 
2014-01-10 01:31:17 AM
I don't ant to sound all unenlightened, and sh*t, as we vaunt into a new era of knowing all there is to know, but what - in 25 words or less - is "staunch atheism"?  Is that like not only do you not collect stamps but you pee in mailboxes?
 
2014-01-10 01:31:52 AM

ignacio: A library board trustee ... questioned the legality of accepting a donation originally intended for the park district.

That's actually a decent question. If he raised the money by telling people it would be donated to the park district, can he just go and donate it anywhere he wants?


It ain't their problems, it's his. He answers to his donors, not the charity.
 
2014-01-10 01:33:12 AM

CowardlyLion: JohnnyC: Christians(Nearly?) every powerful, conservative group or organization in the history of mankind... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

FTFY.

/if you don't believe in somebody else's mythology/fantasy and it basically doesn't affect your life in any way, why waste the time and effort thinking on it in the first place?


Does California Prop 8 ring any bells?
 
2014-01-10 01:35:30 AM

r1niceboy: But those extremist atheists just drink beer and talk about outer space. Shameful.


We also have guilt-free sex with whomever we want, not entangled with or encumbered by what some mythical father-figure thinks is or isn't proper, or fear of punishment for enjoying ourselves thus.

So we've got that going for us, which is nice.
 
2014-01-10 01:36:27 AM

foxyshadis: ignacio: A library board trustee ... questioned the legality of accepting a donation originally intended for the park district.

That's actually a decent question. If he raised the money by telling people it would be donated to the park district, can he just go and donate it anywhere he wants?

It ain't their problems, it's his. He answers to his donors, not the charity.


Exactly. Hemant asked on his site if anyone had problems with him changing the recipient to some other worthy cause in the area when the donation was initially rejected, and there was a wide approval of doing so. He's earned a lot of trust from his community, and rightfully so.
 
2014-01-10 01:38:27 AM

ChadM89: We also have guilt-free sex with whomever we want, not entangled with or encumbered by what some mythical father-figure thinks is or isn't proper, or fear of punishment for enjoying ourselves thus.

So we've got that going for us, which is nice.


So, sort of like the GOP with money and 9 year old boys?
 
2014-01-10 01:39:31 AM

JohnnyC: I've had friends become Christians and then spend all their time trying to convince me that I'm going to burn in a pit of fire and be tortured for eternity unless I join their club because they knew I was an atheist...


There's something very weird about Born-Agains of all stripes. Not just Christian, that's just the most common here in America, and not just religion. People get religious about their new car, their choice in programming languages (even brace placement), their music tastes, and their doomsday fears (global warming? second coming? police state?); but turn them into a born-again for something else and suddenly they're rabidly trying to convert everyone else to their new-found salvation. It's more than a little obvious that it's an easy way to look down on everyone else, too.

Revivalists, the original hipsters?

It's hilarious when it only lasts a few weeks, though.
 
2014-01-10 01:39:35 AM

Popular Opinion: your lack of comprehension is startling to say the least.
highlight the portion of my post that says i don't know of any christians that hate gays,
please,
you can't you moron.
you are the reason, perhaps single-handedly, that the internet sucks.

if you hate anyone, you are not christian,

the sad thing is, you can be a bitter, twisted, hate filled pillow biter, and that is freedom of speech
but if you are a straight person, anything you say that is critical of anyone is hate speech.


You know, you're not really helping your standing as someone who's in any sort of a good position to be speaking in defense of Christians. But don't let that stop you. I've got plenty of popcorn.
 
2014-01-10 01:40:42 AM

JohnnyC: Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.

First, look at history. Look at what Christians have done to people throughout history. Such as how they treated the native americans who didn't convert here in the States. Heck, look at what they've even done to each other (one sect vs another sect). I've personally witnessed Christians treating non-Christians horribly throughout my entire life. I've been physically attacked because I didn't say the "under god" portion of the pledge of allegiance and a christian happened to notice. My in-laws refused to come to my wife and I's wedding because we didn't have a Christian wedding in a church. My mother in law wouldn't even really speak to me for the first 5 years I was married to my wife. I saw a fellow coworker get hassled perpetually because the Christians who worked there found out he was an atheist until eventually they sabotaged his work and got him fired because he wasn't willing to convert. The only reason I didn't get the same treatment was because I avoided any discussion about religion like the plague and I still caught some flack from them because I wasn't very forthcoming about my religious (or lack thereof) views on things. I've had friends become Christians and then spend all their time trying to convince me that I'm going to burn in a pit of fire and be tortured for eternity unless I join their club because they knew I was an atheist... and the list goes on.

I'm tolerant of others. I don't give a shiat what religion you believe or don't believe. But the moment a religious group starts trying to affect my life, starts treating me or other p ...


hey, at least you have an opinion and basis for it, but as for history, it is just that.

the church lady next door didn't lead the evil crusades (which was all about power and money, and nothing to do with the teaching in the new testament (what i think is supposed to be christianity).

be happy knowing these hypocrites will burn in hell, if there is one. ;o)

when i say "fark atheist", i don't mean anyone on fark who doesn't believe in any god.
i mean the type that attack anyone that has faith in something..
 
2014-01-10 01:41:44 AM

foxyshadis: It's hilarious when it only lasts a few weeks, though.


It gets scary when they start talking about how faith healing can regrow limbs. I had to take more than a step back when that bomb dropped.
 
2014-01-10 01:43:15 AM

foxyshadis: ignacio: A library board trustee ... questioned the legality of accepting a donation originally intended for the park district.

That's actually a decent question. If he raised the money by telling people it would be donated to the park district, can he just go and donate it anywhere he wants?

It ain't their problems, it's his. He answers to his donors, not the charity.


Charities exist wholly upon their reputations. Donors can be very finicky.

It's *always* the charity's problem.
 
2014-01-10 01:44:23 AM

Ed Grubermann: Popular Opinion: if you hate anyone, you are not christian,

So, there are no Christians. Nice to know we've got that settled.


i think there have been a few. i don't qualify, obviously.
 
2014-01-10 01:44:25 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: hardinparamedic: Even today I still get crap from the religious because I "believe different". Including being told I should be fired for being an atheist because I didn't actively participate in a prayer during a memorial ceremony earlier this year by someone I work with.

Wow.

It might be time to move to a different part of the county, IMHO. I live in a semi-rural part of Oregon and although we do have Tea-Party types and Rednecks around here, genuine Bible-Thumpers seem to be few in number.  I've never seen religious bigotry at my workplace; most of my co-workers seem to be Good-aligned ( in D&D terms )

/ IIRC, Oregon is one of the most "unChurched" States in the USA


That's because it's so heavily Mormon, and West Coast Mormons are usually quite mellow about things. (Even Mountain Mormons are mellowing out as the old ones die off.) I've literally only known one hateful old biatch who thought reading Anne McCaffrey would deliver me to Satan etc etc who was a Mormon. That stuff just isn't taught in Mormon upbringing (anymore?).
 
2014-01-10 01:45:44 AM

Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: <snip>

hey, at least you have an opinion and basis for it, but as for history, it is just that.

the church lady next door didn't lead the evil crusades (which was all about power and money, and nothing to do with the teaching in the new testament (what i think is supposed to be christianity).

be happy knowing these hypocrites will burn in hell, if there is one. ;o)

when i say "fark atheist", i don't mean anyone on fark who doesn't believe in any god.
i mean the type that attack anyone that has faith in something..


No, the church lady next door was just lied to by her priest about creationism and science, told that atheists are devil worshipers, that gays are abominations, that Republicans are all Christians and that Obama is a Muslim, and took all that "information" to the voting booth.
 
2014-01-10 01:47:30 AM

Popular Opinion: Ed Grubermann: Popular Opinion: if you hate anyone, you are not christian,

So, there are no Christians. Nice to know we've got that settled.

i think there have been a few. i don't qualify, obviously.


Jesus, if he existed, might have been a Christian. But then again, he wailed on some money changer ass with some definite hate, so I'm pretty sure even he's out of the running...
 
2014-01-10 01:48:31 AM

a particular individual: hardinparamedic: Their motives are always alterior

Ulterior. I tell you this only because I honestly think you care, and will remember it.

/not a language nazi.jpg


You sure through me a curb. I thought you were a Nazi.
 
2014-01-10 01:51:08 AM

Pitabred: No, the church lady next door was just lied to by her priest about creationism and science, told that atheists are devil worshipers, that gays are abominations, that Republicans are all Christians and that Obama is a Muslim, and took all that "information" to the voting booth.


Then she killed all of our puppies. With her jackboot.
 
2014-01-10 01:51:28 AM

lohphat: Excluding Mr. Rogers of course.
If Jesus ever did come back, we just missed Him in Fred.


The navy SEAL sniper dude with the tattoos?
 
2014-01-10 01:51:32 AM

foxyshadis: JohnnyC: I've had friends become Christians and then spend all their time trying to convince me that I'm going to burn in a pit of fire and be tortured for eternity unless I join their club because they knew I was an atheist...

There's something very weird about Born-Agains of all stripes. Not just Christian, that's just the most common here in America, and not just religion. People get religious about their new car, their choice in programming languages (even brace placement), their music tastes, and their doomsday fears (global warming? second coming? police state?); but turn them into a born-again for something else and suddenly they're rabidly trying to convert everyone else to their new-found salvation. It's more than a little obvious that it's an easy way to look down on everyone else, too.

Revivalists, the original hipsters?

It's hilarious when it only lasts a few weeks, though.


It's bit just religion. You raise a fascinating and under-explored bit of psychology. Read up on theories of race and sexual orientation development, for instance. The newly-converted have a predictable and militant reaction. For most, it eventuality matures into a more open-minded state.
 
2014-01-10 01:53:01 AM

Pitabred: Popular Opinion: Ed Grubermann: Popular Opinion: if you hate anyone, you are not christian,

So, there are no Christians. Nice to know we've got that settled.

i think there have been a few. i don't qualify, obviously.

Jesus, if he existed, might have been a Christian. But then again, he wailed on some money changer ass with some definite hate, so I'm pretty sure even he's out of the running...


frustration and embarrassment is not hate. jmo
he was embarrassed that faith had been exploited by greed.
and frustrated that this was generally accepted.
i can't say i would have acted differently, especially if i was the son of the big guy,
 
2014-01-10 01:53:48 AM

brimed03: foxyshadis: JohnnyC: I've had friends become Christians and then spend all their time trying to convince me that I'm going to burn in a pit of fire and be tortured for eternity unless I join their club because they knew I was an atheist...

There's something very weird about Born-Agains of all stripes. Not just Christian, that's just the most common here in America, and not just religion. People get religious about their new car, their choice in programming languages (even brace placement), their music tastes, and their doomsday fears (global warming? second coming? police state?); but turn them into a born-again for something else and suddenly they're rabidly trying to convert everyone else to their new-found salvation. It's more than a little obvious that it's an easy way to look down on everyone else, too.

Revivalists, the original hipsters?

It's hilarious when it only lasts a few weeks, though.

It's bit just religion. You raise a fascinating and under-explored bit of psychology. Read up on theories of race and sexual orientation development, for instance. The newly-converted have a predictable and militant reaction. For most, it eventuality matures into a more open-minded state.


*not. It's not just religion.

Dammit. I even Previewed for once.
 
2014-01-10 01:54:56 AM

bunner: I don't ant to sound all unenlightened, and sh*t, as we vaunt into a new era of knowing all there is to know, but what - in 25 words or less - is "staunch atheism"?  Is that like not only do you not collect stamps but you pee in mailboxes?


Thats the one where you dont believe in god so hard that it allows you to magically see into voting booths and know how people voted
 
2014-01-10 01:56:06 AM

brimed03: foxyshadis: ignacio: A library board trustee ... questioned the legality of accepting a donation originally intended for the park district.

That's actually a decent question. If he raised the money by telling people it would be donated to the park district, can he just go and donate it anywhere he wants?

It ain't their problems, it's his. He answers to his donors, not the charity.

Charities exist wholly upon their reputations. Donors can be very finicky.

It's *always* the charity's problem.


I just answered the question of the legality. Warding off shiatstorm that may or may not ensue, sure, I could see that, but they could at least be upfront about it.
 
2014-01-10 01:59:04 AM

mikaloyd: Thats the one where you dont believe in god so hard that it allows you to magically see into voting booths and know how people voted



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2014-01-10 02:05:18 AM

Popular Opinion: Pitabred: Popular Opinion: Ed Grubermann: Popular Opinion: if you hate anyone, you are not christian,

So, there are no Christians. Nice to know we've got that settled.

i think there have been a few. i don't qualify, obviously.

Jesus, if he existed, might have been a Christian. But then again, he wailed on some money changer ass with some definite hate, so I'm pretty sure even he's out of the running...

frustration and embarrassment is not hate. jmo
he was embarrassed that faith had been exploited by greed.
and frustrated that this was generally accepted.
i can't say i would have acted differently, especially if i was the son of the big guy,


gawd, i wish god was real just to see what  kind of whoop ass JC would put on jerry falwell and jesse jackson.
 
2014-01-10 02:21:37 AM
How did they know about his stance and blog to begin with?

Did he walk into these places and say "Hi I'm an atheist blogger,  I'd like to donate $3000."

It should've never entered the conversation at all.  This guy is an asshat.
 
2014-01-10 02:22:01 AM
Christians: god does not need money, this is your issue, not his. If i understand the concept, all he wants is your soul.
 
2014-01-10 02:23:24 AM

Popular Opinion: gawd, i wish god was real just to see what  kind of whoop ass JC would put on jerry falwell and jesse jackson.


Probably something like the "Angel of Death" scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark....
 
2014-01-10 02:25:48 AM

Boo_Guy: How did they know about his stance and blog to begin with?

Did he walk into these places and say "Hi I'm an atheist blogger,  I'd like to donate $3000."

It should've never entered the conversation at all.  This guy is an asshat.


Question
Assumption
Assumptive and abusive conclusion

God bless you
 
2014-01-10 02:29:01 AM

Slartibartfaster: Boo_Guy: How did they know about his stance and blog to begin with?

Did he walk into these places and say "Hi I'm an atheist blogger,  I'd like to donate $3000."

It should've never entered the conversation at all.  This guy is an asshat.

Question
Assumption
Assumptive and abusive conclusion

God bless you


Well if the article had mentioned it then I wouldn't have had to ask.

/atheist
//"God bless you" right back at you
 
2014-01-10 02:33:29 AM
I'm sorry you're starving and I would provide you some sustenance but it originated from people that don't believe in sky fairies so I can't give it to you and I'm sorry you'll go hungry.
I COULD not be a retard and allow you to sustain you and your family but I choose not to because religion and all that.
SUCK IT
 
2014-01-10 02:33:31 AM

Boo_Guy: How did they know about his stance and blog to begin with?

Did he walk into these places and say "Hi I'm an atheist blogger,  I'd like to donate $3000."


Why on earth would any place not want to be known as a great partner and cherished giftee of internet atheists?
 
2014-01-10 02:37:07 AM

hardinparamedic: Gyrfalcon: So, how do you fail to "actively participate," assuming you weren't standing ostentatiously in the front of the room glaring at everyone while they were kneeling in prayer? And how did they know otherwise? This always mystifies me, because as a nondenominational agnostic, I occasionally get forced into Catholic church (for my nephews' confirmations, etc.) and I do not participate in their arcane rites; but I don't do it in an obvious way; I just sit quietly in the pew while they kneel, stand, pray, etc.

So unless you're aggressively mocking the preacher during services, how do these mooks know you're not "actively participating"? Are you supposed to fall down and begin speaking in tongues?

Apparently, not closing your eyes and just remaining silent is a horrible disrespect to the dead.


Does that mean you're going to be haunted by the dead person you dissed? He's the only one who should know you were looking at him the whole time.
 
2014-01-10 02:48:22 AM
I'm an atheist that volunteers at my local food bank every Thursday so I'm getting a kick...

Granted I'm not giving them money but I am giving them my time. Please do justify how I am doing wrong and that you should take that away from those that I've have helped in some way because that's what this fiasco is doing; not allowing me to help people because of my non-beliefs.

Assholes.
 
2014-01-10 02:50:12 AM

redheededstepchild: Christians Politicians: god does not need money, this is your issue, not his. If i understand the concept, all he wants is your soul vote.


This is what happens when religion and politics mix.
 
2014-01-10 02:51:49 AM

JohnnyC: Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.

First, look at history. Look at what Christians have done to people throughout history. Such as how they treated the native americans who didn't convert here in the States. Heck, look at what they've even done to each other (one sect vs another sect). I've personally witnessed Christians treating non-Christians horribly throughout my entire life. I've been physically attacked because I didn't say the "under god" portion of the pledge of allegiance and a christian happened to notice. My in-laws refused to come to my wife and I's wedding because we didn't have a Christian wedding in a church. My mother in law wouldn't even really speak to me for the first 5 years I was married to my wife. I saw a fellow coworker get hassled perpetually because the Christians who worked there found out he was an atheist until eventually they sabotaged his work and got him fired because he wasn't willing to convert. The only reason I didn't get the same treatment was because I avoided any discussion about religion like the plague and I still caught some flack from them because I wasn't very forthcoming about my religious (or lack thereof) views on things. I've had friends become Christians and then spend all their time trying to convince me that I'm going to burn in a pit of fire and be tortured for eternity unless I join their club because they knew I was an atheist... and the list goes on.

I'm tolerant of others. I don't give a shiat what religion you believe or don't believe. But the moment a religious group starts trying to affect my life, starts treating me or other people like shiat because they're not a member of that religious group, they EARN their reputation. And this is an ongoing thing... throughout history. Not just my story... but a million other people's stories, and I'm absolutely certain that a good portion of those stories are far worse that what I've had to put up with.

Now guess how many Christians I've physically attacked because they believe in god? Guess how many I tried to get fired because they go to church on sunday? Guess how many people I tried threatened with torture and burning forever... none. And what is with this, "real atheist" and "fark atheist" bullshiat? If someone doesn't believe in any gods/supernatural beings/etc, that person is an atheist. Just because I have REASONS I do not like the way a particular religion's members conduct themselves in general does not make me a 'fark atheist'. I'm still just an atheist.

If you happen to be an atheist and you just prefer to ignore the things Christians do to other people here in the States, you're welcome to do so... but don't expect everyone to just lay down and take it because you do.


agreed.
 
2014-01-10 02:54:40 AM

C18H27NO3: I'm an atheist that volunteers at my local food bank every Thursday so I'm getting a kick...

Granted I'm not giving them money but I am giving them my time. Please do justify how I am doing wrong and that you should take that away from those that I've have helped in some way because that's what this fiasco is doing; not allowing me to help people because of my non-beliefs.

Assholes.


Easy7 there hero the food bank took the money. Food banks and geniuses like yourself are still AOK together, Now run along and attack a park or bite a library. Parks and Libraries bad, food banks good!
 
2014-01-10 03:03:30 AM

mikaloyd: Easy7 there hero the food bank took the money. Food banks and geniuses like yourself are still AOK together, Now run along and attack a park or bite a library. Parks and Libraries bad, food banks good!


You're missing my point entirely, obviously.
 
2014-01-10 03:12:03 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's weird that the park and library would even know about this guy's atheism. What, did they do a background check on him or some shiat? How would they even know?


Have you ever known an atheist who didn't tell anyone and everyone, at every single chance that they are an atheist?   It's like people who can't pass an opportunity to say "I'm italian"
 
2014-01-10 03:13:25 AM
If someone could provide a ballpark number of sandwiches they've prayed into existence then I'll lend them an ear.
 
2014-01-10 03:18:28 AM

RidersOfLohan: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's weird that the park and library would even know about this guy's atheism. What, did they do a background check on him or some shiat? How would they even know?

Have you ever known an atheist who didn't tell anyone and everyone, at every single chance that they are an atheist?   It's like people who can't pass an opportunity to say "I'm italian"


I don't,  but then up in Canada most people don't need to know your religious and political affiliations before having a conversation with someone.

/Even the vegans usually keep it to themselves
 
2014-01-10 03:38:13 AM

C18H27NO3: If someone could provide a ballpark number of sandwiches they've prayed into existence then I'll lend them an ear.


Or the number of students who have passed finals due to prayer alone.
 
2014-01-10 03:56:02 AM
Sorry, library is closed because we couldn't afford to have it open today.
Sorry, park is closed because we couldn't afford to have it open today.

Well yes we could have had the funds to make it available for you today but we chose not to. Rather than do good for you we went the irrational route of not accepting monies from people that had good intentions and could have made it happen but instead denied them from contributing to your enjoyment.
You'll understand. You always do. You always will. You'll teach your kids to do the same.
 
2014-01-10 04:54:16 AM

RidersOfLohan: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's weird that the park and library would even know about this guy's atheism. What, did they do a background check on him or some shiat? How would they even know?

Have you ever known an atheist who didn't tell anyone and everyone, at every single chance that they are an atheist?   It's like people who can't pass an opportunity to say "I'm italian"


Guy belongs to something called "The Friendly Atheist" some atheist club, I assume - he was donating on their behalf, as best I can understand the wretchedly written article. Possibly said it on the check, maybe?
Ockham's Razor, y'know.
 
2014-01-10 04:58:02 AM
Or it's a blog, or a hate group, or something. Terrible article. I swear to God I read stuff on the Internets every day that my 8th grade composition teacher would have flunked me for.
 
2014-01-10 06:06:27 AM

r1niceboy: But those extremist atheists just drink beer and talk about outer space. Shameful.


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