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(Chicago Trib)   Both a park district and public library rejected a $3,000 cash donation by a man because of his staunch atheism, but a food pantry gladly accepted the money, because they're not assholes   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 193
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2014-01-09 11:02:59 PM
A library board trustee called Mehta's blog, the Friendly Atheist, a "hate group,"

Because not believing in your particular conception of a supreme being if an act of hate against that supreme being.
 
2014-01-09 11:08:42 PM
Those comments are something:

The comments regarding this story are just the tip of the iceberg.

Google 'hateful atheists,' maybe they're overcompensating for their lack of faith. These atheists remind me of another radicalized, publicity seeking minority group...one wonders if there's a connection?
 
2014-01-09 11:50:16 PM

JasonOfOrillia: Because not believing in your particular conception of a supreme being if an act of hate against that supreme being.


Yeah, here's the thing. And I share this with you coming from a "small town". I'm well aware that Niles Township has about a hundred thousand people according to 2010 census data, but in this area, that would qualify as the same thing. Modern "Evangelical" Christianity has fallen back on a tenet that was more at home in 1800s spiritual revival episodes than today:  These are people who, from a very early age in their Youth Groups and Sunday schools, are taught that non-believers and people who legitimately ascribe to other religions do so because they either don't "know" about their God, or they legitimately hate their God and their religion, and everything they stand for.

They are
indoctrinated with the superiority of their religious doctrine and writings, and taught that anyone who questions them or believes differently is their enemy. Their motives are always alterior and in league with Satan.

This also serves as an example of what an "out" Atheist in the United States has to deal with. Personally, I knew I was an atheist at 14. Not because of any kind of "rebellion" or any other tripe that is traditionally taught, but because after studying the religious material I was constantly bombarded with, it made no sense. I continued to uphold a lie to my parents, my youth pastor, and my church group for four years, until I could voluntarily leave home and my church as an adult, because I knew the kind of persecution and bullying I would experience in a small southern town of 7,000 people. 

Even today I still get crap from the religious because I "believe different". Including being told I should be fired for being an atheist because I didn't actively participate in a prayer during a memorial ceremony earlier this year by someone I work with.

So yeah. To these idiots, it is a legitimate and willful act of hate against their God and the Christ himself that you do not believe in their religion and it alone.
 
2014-01-09 11:58:54 PM
He next tried the Morton Grove Public Library, but experienced similar results. A library board trustee called Mehta's blog, the Friendly Atheist, a "hate group," and questioned the legality of accepting a donation originally intended for the park district.

Really? Let me go check out this website.

[reads blog]

Yeah, if that's your idea of a "hate group" then your ass is filled with your head.
 
2014-01-10 12:09:55 AM
F*ck you face, I've got your motherf*cking nose.
 
2014-01-10 12:10:09 AM
An agnostic offered them $3,000 as well. They took $1,500.
 
2014-01-10 12:16:13 AM
You know what really grinds my gears?!!?
 
2014-01-10 12:19:18 AM
It's weird that the park and library would even know about this guy's atheism. What, did they do a background check on him or some shiat? How would they even know?
 
2014-01-10 12:19:45 AM
Hunger is a religion.
 
2014-01-10 12:21:11 AM

macross87: You know what really grinds my gears?!!?


Poor clutch control?
 
2014-01-10 12:21:25 AM

GreenAdder: An agnostic offered them $3,000 as well. They took $1,500.


This
 
2014-01-10 12:23:35 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's weird that the park and library would even know about this guy's atheism. What, did they do a background check on him or some shiat? How would they even know?


The parks response seems more to do with the original dispute and not the fact this guy is an atheist.

The second guy is a douche.

Better off giving to the food pantry anyways.
 
2014-01-10 12:23:59 AM
Having spent time working for my municipal library, I know two things.
1: The board is usually not that smart
2: Never turn down free money.

Seriously,the people with the least idea of what they are doing are in charge of basically everything public. Libraries, schools, etc.
 
2014-01-10 12:24:21 AM

hardinparamedic: Their motives are always alterior


Ulterior. I tell you this only because I honestly think you care, and will remember it.

/not a language nazi.jpg
 
2014-01-10 12:30:53 AM
fark the library then. Glad the moneys going to people who actually need it.
 
2014-01-10 12:31:31 AM
Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.
 
2014-01-10 12:33:01 AM

hardinparamedic: Even today I still get crap from the religious because I "believe different". Including being told I should be fired for being an atheist because I didn't actively participate in a prayer during a memorial ceremony earlier this year by someone I work with.

So yeah. To these idiots, it is a legitimate and willful act of hate against their God and the Christ himself that you do not believe in their religion and it alone.


So, how do you fail to "actively participate," assuming you weren't standing ostentatiously in the front of the room glaring at everyone while they were kneeling in prayer? And how did they know otherwise? This always mystifies me, because as a nondenominational agnostic, I occasionally get forced into Catholic church (for my nephews' confirmations, etc.) and I do not participate in their arcane rites; but I don't do it in an obvious way; I just sit quietly in the pew while they kneel, stand, pray, etc.

So unless you're aggressively mocking the preacher during services, how do these mooks know you're not "actively participating"? Are you supposed to fall down and begin speaking in tongues?
 
2014-01-10 12:37:33 AM
But those extremist atheists just drink beer and talk about outer space. Shameful.
 
2014-01-10 12:40:02 AM
FTFA: Mehta originally raised the money in late October following news that American Legion Post 134 pulled its support from the Morton Grove Park District in response to a park board commissioner's refusal to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

So basically this atheist guy raises this money and tries to donates it as a way to make some political point, and some of the recipients don't to be involved in that.  Not seeing a problem, per se.

(Now, when they start chucking back their own drama, I see a problem, but that comes later.)
 
2014-01-10 12:40:06 AM
Well then....

I am one the board of my company's charitable giving committee. I have no idea what i would do if someone refused our funds because an atheist is on the board. This makes no sense?!?
 
2014-01-10 12:42:17 AM

Caffienatedjedi: Having spent time working for my municipal library, I know two things.
1: The board is usually not that smart
2: Never turn down free money.

Seriously,the people with the least idea of what they are doing are in charge of basically everything public. Libraries, schools, etc.


clearly, cutng their salaries will bring in better talent!

(Not accusing you of that)
 
2014-01-10 12:47:43 AM

links136: Caffienatedjedi: Having spent time working for my municipal library, I know two things.
1: The board is usually not that smart
2: Never turn down free money.

Seriously,the people with the least idea of what they are doing are in charge of basically everything public. Libraries, schools, etc.

clearly, cutng their salaries will bring in better talent!

(Not accusing you of that)


Ah god, I wish I was given control of money beyond buying donuts and shipping packages. I was more of the "Do anything phyisically demanding we tell you to, because you are the only male employee we have", guy. Still, overheard a lot of stuff, municipal employees were tight knit. Still giggle when I think about all the things the board was trying to do while a new library was being built, half the time the director had to explain to them why their idea was illegal.
 
2014-01-10 12:50:22 AM

JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.


what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.
 
2014-01-10 12:51:27 AM

Caffienatedjedi: Having spent time working for my municipal library, I know two things.
1: The board is usually not that smart
2: Never turn down free money.

Seriously,the people with the least idea of what they are doing are in charge of basically everything public. Libraries, schools, etc.


A local parents group is up in arms over the local library accepting rent from a cellular company for putting up a repeater. I learned first hand the stupidity of such boards. If there was only a building full of knowledge they could go to to learn something...
 
2014-01-10 12:53:11 AM
anyone else see that picture and think militant gay middle eastern dude?

/not that there is anything wrong with that.
 
2014-01-10 12:53:58 AM
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2014-01-10 12:54:16 AM
"Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can."

Your prejudice is an ugly thing. The use of labels, no matter which ones, just ends up causing hate and attacks.
 
2014-01-10 12:54:55 AM

aerojockey: FTFA: Mehta originally raised the money in late October following news that American Legion Post 134 pulled its support from the Morton Grove Park District in response to a park board commissioner's refusal to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

So basically this atheist guy raises this money and tries to donates it as a way to make some political point, and some of the recipients don't to be involved in that.  Not seeing a problem, per se.

(Now, when they start chucking back their own drama, I see a problem, but that comes later.)


They will take Christian money but not Atheist money. Yes, it's a political point, but hey... it's money. The government only chose sides when it refused to take the Atheist money, which is why this is an issue. Why the money is donated should be outside what the government cares about, as long as strings aren't attached (i.e., you can only have this money to build a monument to cheese). There weren't any strings attached from Hemant, it was "Here, take this money, do whatever you want with it".
 
2014-01-10 01:00:14 AM

JohnnyC: Christians(Nearly?) every powerful, conservative group or organization in the history of mankind... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.


FTFY.

/if you don't believe in somebody else's mythology/fantasy and it basically doesn't affect your life in any way, why waste the time and effort thinking on it in the first place?
 
2014-01-10 01:00:27 AM

Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.


When did atheists vote to outlaw gay marriage? To try to sneak non-science into science classrooms? Use public money for solely religious proselytization and benefit?

Oh, right. That never happened. I'll bash all of those actions, because those actions are incompatible with democracy and a sane, pluralistic society. Believe whatever mumbo-jumbo you want on your own time. Don't try to force it on me or make me pay for it. You've just got your panties in a twist because you're finally being called on your bullsh*t. Being told you don't have the extra privilege you think you should isn't bashing or persecution, sparky.
 
2014-01-10 01:01:09 AM

Gyrfalcon: So, how do you fail to "actively participate," assuming you weren't standing ostentatiously in the front of the room glaring at everyone while they were kneeling in prayer? And how did they know otherwise? This always mystifies me, because as a nondenominational agnostic, I occasionally get forced into Catholic church (for my nephews' confirmations, etc.) and I do not participate in their arcane rites; but I don't do it in an obvious way; I just sit quietly in the pew while they kneel, stand, pray, etc.

So unless you're aggressively mocking the preacher during services, how do these mooks know you're not "actively participating"? Are you supposed to fall down and begin speaking in tongues?


Apparently, not closing your eyes and just remaining silent is a horrible disrespect to the dead.
 
2014-01-10 01:01:42 AM

CowardlyLion: JohnnyC: Christians(Nearly?) every powerful, conservative group or organization in the history of mankind... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

FTFY.

/if you don't believe in somebody else's mythology/fantasy and it basically doesn't affect your life in any way, why waste the time and effort thinking on it in the first place?


I wish I could ignore it. Unfortunately, Christians and "conservatives" in this country try to force it on the rest of us, getting us into this predicament.
 
2014-01-10 01:09:14 AM

hardinparamedic: Even today I still get crap from the religious because I "believe different". Including being told I should be fired for being an atheist because I didn't actively participate in a prayer during a memorial ceremony earlier this year by someone I work with.


Wow.

It might be time to move to a different part of the county, IMHO. I live in a semi-rural part of Oregon and although we do have Tea-Party types and Rednecks around here, genuine Bible-Thumpers seem to be few in number.  I've never seen religious bigotry at my workplace; most of my co-workers seem to be Good-aligned ( in D&D terms )

/ IIRC, Oregon is one of the most "unChurched" States in the USA
 
2014-01-10 01:09:57 AM

hardinparamedic: Gyrfalcon: So, how do you fail to "actively participate," assuming you weren't standing ostentatiously in the front of the room glaring at everyone while they were kneeling in prayer? And how did they know otherwise? This always mystifies me, because as a nondenominational agnostic, I occasionally get forced into Catholic church (for my nephews' confirmations, etc.) and I do not participate in their arcane rites; but I don't do it in an obvious way; I just sit quietly in the pew while they kneel, stand, pray, etc.

So unless you're aggressively mocking the preacher during services, how do these mooks know you're not "actively participating"? Are you supposed to fall down and begin speaking in tongues?

Apparently, not closing your eyes and just remaining silent is a horrible disrespect to the dead.


...But how would they know you kept your eyes open if they closed theirs?
 
2014-01-10 01:10:21 AM

Pitabred: Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.

When did atheists vote to outlaw gay marriage? To try to sneak non-science into science classrooms? Use public money for solely religious proselytization and benefit?

Oh, right. That never happened. I'll bash all of those actions, because those actions are incompatible with democracy and a sane, pluralistic society. Believe whatever mumbo-jumbo you want on your own time. Don't try to force it on me or make me pay for it. You've just got your panties in a twist because you're finally being called on your bullsh*t. Being told you don't have the extra privilege you think you should isn't bashing or persecution, sparky.


more people i know that have never been to any church that hate gays than people that claim to be christian.
the new testament teaches "judge not, lest you be judged", therefore, anyone that bashes gays is not christian.
 
2014-01-10 01:15:34 AM

Popular Opinion: more people i know that have never been to any church that hate gays than people that claim to be christian.


odd Ive never met these "more people"
 
2014-01-10 01:16:28 AM

Popular Opinion: Pitabred: Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.

When did atheists vote to outlaw gay marriage? To try to sneak non-science into science classrooms? Use public money for solely religious proselytization and benefit?

Oh, right. That never happened. I'll bash all of those actions, because those actions are incompatible with democracy and a sane, pluralistic society. Believe whatever mumbo-jumbo you want on your own time. Don't try to force it on me or make me pay for it. You've just got your panties in a twist because you're finally being called on your bullsh*t. Being told you don't have the extra privilege you think you should isn't bashing or persecution, sparky.

more people i know that have never been to any church that hate gays than people that claim to be christian.
the new testament teaches "judge not, lest you be judged", therefore, anyone that bashes gays is not christian.


Oh, since you claim on the Internet that you don't know any Christians that hate gay people, especially in contravention to very public voting records and polling, I guess there's no problem. Thanks!
 
2014-01-10 01:16:57 AM

Popular Opinion: Pitabred: Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.

When did atheists vote to outlaw gay marriage? To try to sneak non-science into science classrooms? Use public money for solely religious proselytization and benefit?

Oh, right. That never happened. I'll bash all of those actions, because those actions are incompatible with democracy and a sane, pluralistic society. Believe whatever mumbo-jumbo you want on your own time. Don't try to force it on me or make me pay for it. You've just got your panties in a twist because you're finally being called on your bullsh*t. Being told you don't have the extra privilege you think you should isn't bashing or persecution, sparky.

more people i know that have never been to any church that hate gays than people that claim to be christian.
the new testament teaches "judge not, lest you be judged", therefore, anyone that bashes gays is not christian.


I don't think it matters if they are 'really christians'. Thats the name they act under, therefore that's what they get called out under.
 
2014-01-10 01:18:28 AM
The people that are in charge of the library and the parks department probably have future political ambitions, or their jobs can be in jeopardy from politicians if they do the wrong thing politically. The food pantry guy, I doubt either applies to him. So it stands to reason why they would not only research were a large donation came from, but also reject some, as unfortunate as it is.
 
2014-01-10 01:20:42 AM

JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.


genocide was their friend (adn if we are not careful to limit their control it will be again)
 
2014-01-10 01:21:59 AM

Pitabred: Popular Opinion: Pitabred: Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.

When did atheists vote to outlaw gay marriage? To try to sneak non-science into science classrooms? Use public money for solely religious proselytization and benefit?

Oh, right. That never happened. I'll bash all of those actions, because those actions are incompatible with democracy and a sane, pluralistic society. Believe whatever mumbo-jumbo you want on your own time. Don't try to force it on me or make me pay for it. You've just got your panties in a twist because you're finally being called on your bullsh*t. Being told you don't have the extra privilege you think you should isn't bashing or persecution, sparky.

more people i know that have never been to any church that hate gays than people that claim to be christian.
the new testament teaches "judge not, lest you be judged", therefore, anyone that bashes gays is not christian.

Oh, since you claim on the Internet that you don't know any Christians that hate gay people, especially in contravention to very public voting records and polling, I guess there's no problem. Thanks!


your lack of comprehension is startling to say the least.
highlight the portion of my post that says i don't know of any christians that hate gays,
please,
you can't you moron.
you are the reason, perhaps single-handedly, that the internet sucks.

if you hate anyone, you are not christian,

the sad thing is, you can be a bitter, twisted, hate filled pillow biter, and that is freedom of speech
but if you are a straight person, anything you say that is critical of anyone is hate speech.
 
2014-01-10 01:22:23 AM

ongbok: So it stands to reason why they would not only research were a large donation came from, but also reject some, as unfortunate as it is.


Which reason does this stand to ?
 
2014-01-10 01:24:13 AM

Popular Opinion: pillow biter


you sound bitter, twisted, and full of hate
but that is freedom of speach
 
2014-01-10 01:25:41 AM

Kurmudgeon: "Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can."

Your prejudice is an ugly thing. The use of labels, no matter which ones, just ends up causing hate and attacks.


The truth is a prejudice? Since when?
 
2014-01-10 01:27:42 AM

JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.


Excluding Mr. Rogers of course.

If Jesus ever did come back, we just missed Him in Fred.
 
2014-01-10 01:27:44 AM

Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.


First, look at history. Look at what Christians have done to people throughout history. Such as how they treated the native americans who didn't convert here in the States. Heck, look at what they've even done to each other (one sect vs another sect). I've personally witnessed Christians treating non-Christians horribly throughout my entire life. I've been physically attacked because I didn't say the "under god" portion of the pledge of allegiance and a christian happened to notice. My in-laws refused to come to my wife and I's wedding because we didn't have a Christian wedding in a church. My mother in law wouldn't even really speak to me for the first 5 years I was married to my wife. I saw a fellow coworker get hassled perpetually because the Christians who worked there found out he was an atheist until eventually they sabotaged his work and got him fired because he wasn't willing to convert. The only reason I didn't get the same treatment was because I avoided any discussion about religion like the plague and I still caught some flack from them because I wasn't very forthcoming about my religious (or lack thereof) views on things. I've had friends become Christians and then spend all their time trying to convince me that I'm going to burn in a pit of fire and be tortured for eternity unless I join their club because they knew I was an atheist... and the list goes on.

I'm tolerant of others. I don't give a shiat what religion you believe or don't believe. But the moment a religious group starts trying to affect my life, starts treating me or other people like shiat because they're not a member of that religious group, they EARN their reputation. And this is an ongoing thing... throughout history. Not just my story... but a million other people's stories, and I'm absolutely certain that a good portion of those stories are far worse that what I've had to put up with.

Now guess how many Christians I've physically attacked because they believe in god? Guess how many I tried to get fired because they go to church on sunday? Guess how many people I tried threatened with torture and burning forever... none. And what is with this, "real atheist" and "fark atheist" bullshiat? If someone doesn't believe in any gods/supernatural beings/etc, that person is an atheist. Just because I have REASONS I do not like the way a particular religion's members conduct themselves in general does not make me a 'fark atheist'. I'm still just an atheist.

If you happen to be an atheist and you just prefer to ignore the things Christians do to other people here in the States, you're welcome to do so... but don't expect everyone to just lay down and take it because you do.
 
2014-01-10 01:27:57 AM

Slartibartfaster: Popular Opinion: pillow biter

you sound bitter, twisted, and full of hate
but that is freedom of speach


thank you for the latitude to use amusing (if only to me) descriptors.
i say that only with the most respectful intentions. it brings me joy.
 
2014-01-10 01:28:08 AM

Popular Opinion: Pitabred: Popular Opinion: Pitabred: Popular Opinion: JohnnyC: Christians... if you're not one of them, you're their enemy. They have a very long history proving that... as hard as they can.

what would you know about it johnny? tell me why you think you know.

there is a big difference between not believing in something and bashing people that do believe.
this intolerance is why real atheists want to distance themselves with your typical fark atheist.

When did atheists vote to outlaw gay marriage? To try to sneak non-science into science classrooms? Use public money for solely religious proselytization and benefit?

Oh, right. That never happened. I'll bash all of those actions, because those actions are incompatible with democracy and a sane, pluralistic society. Believe whatever mumbo-jumbo you want on your own time. Don't try to force it on me or make me pay for it. You've just got your panties in a twist because you're finally being called on your bullsh*t. Being told you don't have the extra privilege you think you should isn't bashing or persecution, sparky.

more people i know that have never been to any church that hate gays than people that claim to be christian.
the new testament teaches "judge not, lest you be judged", therefore, anyone that bashes gays is not christian.

Oh, since you claim on the Internet that you don't know any Christians that hate gay people, especially in contravention to very public voting records and polling, I guess there's no problem. Thanks!

your lack of comprehension is startling to say the least.
highlight the portion of my post that says i don't know of any christians that hate gays,
please,
you can't you moron.
you are the reason, perhaps single-handedly, that the internet sucks.

if you hate anyone, you are not christian,

the sad thing is, you can be a bitter, twisted, hate filled pillow biter, and that is freedom of speech
but if you are a straight person, anything you say that is critical of anyone is hate speech.


There aren't any True Scotsmen out there, either.
 
2014-01-10 01:29:40 AM

Popular Opinion: if you hate anyone, you are not christian,


So, there are no Christians. Nice to know we've got that settled.
 
2014-01-10 01:29:51 AM
A library board trustee ... questioned the legality of accepting a donation originally intended for the park district.

That's actually a decent question. If he raised the money by telling people it would be donated to the park district, can he just go and donate it anywhere he wants?
 
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