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2014-01-10 09:20:33 AM
5 votes:
I get that while Rome is burning may not be the best time to discuss Nero's laws and policies, the fact is that coal companies and companies that produce chemicals and tools for coal companies in the state of West Virginia are basically worshipped as demi-gods. We named our intrastate football rivalry after their lobbying group "Friends of Coal." Every single politician in the state has to basically give lip service to the coal industry every 13.7 minutes, or they will have no chance of being reelected. The EPA is basically seen as a spawn of Satan that serves no purpose in the state. Seriously, listen to ANY WVU or Marshall sports broadcasts, and you will hear a "Friends of Coal" ad for every single commerical break.

And the problem with groups like "Friends of Coal" is that the real purpose is to lower regulation on coal, not to "make West Virginia strong." I know that seems obvious, but people in West Virginia seem completely oblivious to this. I get that coal is a large part of our nation's power, and I get that many people in West Virginia are employed if not directly, then indirectly by coal. But this sort of event is the cost of zero regulation. Friends of Coal has lobbied strongly against chemical regulations, water dumping regulations, and pollutant controls for years now. They've prevented inspections, or decreased their frequency, which prevents the public, who has a vested interest in things like "not dying when you drink tap water," from knowing what risks are present. This is the same group that lobbied against state laws to require building safe rooms with oxygen tanks in mines after, well, I'd name a mining disaster, but they've really become numerous because they've successfully fought against methane monitors being required in highly explosive areas. They are disgusting profiteering using the power of group think and repetition to brainwash the people of West Virginia into truly believing that what is good for coal is always 110% good for the state. This is despite the fact that if coal was going to make the state of West Virginia wealthy, don't you think over 100 years of heavy coal mining later, West Virginia would start to see some returns?

Friends of Coal isn't your friend, and they aren't making West Virginia better or more prosperous. Coal companies aren't inherently noble entities concerned with the working man of West Virginia. Stop sucking their dicks.
2014-01-10 12:12:47 AM
5 votes:
Has Rep. Joe Barton apologized to the company for over regulation yet?
2014-01-09 11:00:53 PM
5 votes:
Jesus. Who needs Al Qaeda?
2014-01-10 09:37:51 AM
3 votes:
" 4-Methylcyclohexane Methanol, is not toxic but is harmful if swallowed."

 That's a definition of non-toxic that I was previously unaware of
2014-01-10 04:39:30 AM
3 votes:
I bet the business responsible gets fined an whole month's worth of net profit. That will teach 'em!
2014-01-10 03:53:07 AM
3 votes:
"...after a leak at Freedom Industries"

Of farking course.
2014-01-10 10:45:03 AM
2 votes:

WTFDYW: Came to this thread figuring it would be full of anti coal, anti natural gas derp.

/leaving satisfied, having contributed nothing to the conversation


FTFY
2014-01-10 09:30:53 AM
2 votes:

tallen702: Now what really gets me about all the facebook traffic I'm seeing from friends back home in Charlie West is that NOBODY seems to remember that you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a stream in the 9 affected counties, and that all you need is a couple of jerry cans and some of this:
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I hope you're trying to be funny.

Just in case anyone doesn't get it, those tablets are used specifically for killing common types of microbiology in the water. Non-life chemicals would be unaffected.
2014-01-10 09:30:42 AM
2 votes:

tallen702: Now what really gets me about all the facebook traffic I'm seeing from friends back home in Charlie West is that NOBODY seems to remember that you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a stream in the 9 affected counties, and that all you need is a couple of jerry cans and some of this:
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That kills bacteria so that they won't kill you, but won't clean chemical contamination from water.
2014-01-10 04:53:12 AM
2 votes:
Coal, you mean like powers electric cars?
2014-01-10 03:57:55 AM
2 votes:

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Oh boy work will be fun tomorrow. I work for American Water, and my office handles Kanawha Valley


You sound awful.  You really shouldn't go to work when you've got a cold.  Take a sick day.
2014-01-10 11:28:29 AM
1 votes:

WTFDYW: Came to this thread figuring it would be full of anti coal, anti natural gas derp.

/leaving satisfied



Mr. Massey, glad to see you joined us.
2014-01-10 11:07:54 AM
1 votes:
 Dupont has turned WV into a chemical shiathole. This is just another example of the "benefits" of having their industry in your state.
2014-01-10 09:41:46 AM
1 votes:

DBSmiley: tallen702: Now what really gets me about all the facebook traffic I'm seeing from friends back home in Charlie West is that NOBODY seems to remember that you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a stream in the 9 affected counties, and that all you need is a couple of jerry cans and some of this:
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I hope you're trying to be funny.

Just in case anyone doesn't get it, those tablets are used specifically for killing common types of microbiology in the water. Non-life chemicals would be unaffected.


He's saying if you're on a tributary to the elk, you have drinking water.

Water doesn't flow uphill (for the most part, ymmv, capillary action, etc.)
2014-01-10 09:21:49 AM
1 votes:
Huck And Molly Ziegler:

"Freedom Industries"?? Seriously?

You don't know much about the laughable PR processes that the absentee coal companies and their ilk are prone to using I take it?

Don't forget "Patriot Coal" which, despite record profits and being the second largest coal mining operation east of the Mississippi is going through bankruptcy and will be reducing or eliminating health care and retirement benefits for all of its workers while executives and middle management all received pay raises and bonuses just prior to that announcement.

Appalachia in general is a beautiful and wonderful place. But places like southern WV, eastern KY, and western VA are still very steeped in rural tradition. I was brought up understanding that if you promised someone something, you kept that promise, and that a handshake might as well be a legally binding contract. These companies use that kind of naming to play to the immense pride that people from the region have for themselves and their country. Then they turn around and do things on the cheap and carry all the profits back across state lines while leaving a wasteland behind them.

That's not to say that coal mining doesn't have an important place in the economies of those states, but there need to be tougher, tighter regulations on a STATE level to keep the money where it comes from and prevent the decimation of these states' other resources.
2014-01-10 09:14:35 AM
1 votes:
Imagine the response and the news coverage this would get if it was actually a terror attack, dumping this exact same chemical into the water supply. We would have invaded 8 countries by now.
2014-01-10 08:43:43 AM
1 votes:

utah dude: can someone please read the article and tell me what the chemical is?


oh wait, it's  4-METHYL-1-CYCLOHEXANEMETHANOL, not4-Methylcyclohexane methanol . chesses, people, would you phuqeing please pay attention in the nomenclature section of O-chem?

or better yet use some sorta IUPAC naming.
2014-01-10 08:40:00 AM
1 votes:
It would be ironic if coal mining finally did end up rendering the entire state uninhabitable; just not in a way that anyone had really anticipated.. Contamminated ground water might stay that way for centuries or longer, once you wreck it it is wrecked.
2014-01-10 06:16:41 AM
1 votes:
I hope they have it fixed by Saturday - that's bath night in WV.

I grew up in that area, this is just one of many such incidents. The area is called the Chemical Valley for a reason - Dow,  Monsanto, Dupont, FMC, Union Carbide, Bayer, and many others had chemical plants there at one time or still do.
2014-01-10 04:12:51 AM
1 votes:

Huck And Molly Ziegler: "Freedom Industries"?? Seriously?


It's got to be Orwellian.
2014-01-10 12:10:00 AM
1 votes:

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Oh boy work will be fun tomorrow. I work for American Water, and my office handles Kanawha Valley


Good luck!

/at least you got warning
//showed up to work once to federal officers holding loaded M4s. That was an interesting day.
2014-01-09 10:57:07 PM
1 votes:
Oh boy work will be fun tomorrow. I work for American Water, and my office handles Kanawha Valley
 
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