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(Talking Points Memo)   Illinois Governor Pat Quinn (D) compares challenger Bruce Rauner (R-elease the hounds) to The Simpsons' Mr. Burns. Excellent   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 26
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2014-01-09 07:29:52 PM
In a fundraising email sent out by Quinn's reelection campaign on Thursday, Quinn said Rauner, a private equity executive, and the rest of the GOP gubernatorial primary field "have all the compassion of C. Montgomery Burns."

Well that's unfair to insult Montgomery Burns like that. St least being nuclear plant owner you are providing a service to people. A private equity executive you are more likely just laying people, robing their pensions or cutting their salary to make money.

Basically a private equity executive's job is to earn money by being a dick that the previous owners of the company refused to be.
 
2014-01-09 07:30:21 PM
Rauner's a douchebag, but Quinn's a farking tool.
 
2014-01-09 07:30:32 PM
He had the plant, but we have the power.
 
2014-01-09 07:43:17 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: Rauner's a douchebag, but Quinn's a farking tool.


Um, which of those is supposed to be worse?

I would not want to vote for the guy trying to lower the minimum wage.  The entire economic philosophy those guys take as gospel has failed again and again.
 
2014-01-09 07:49:32 PM

flondrix: Almost Everybody Poops: Rauner's a douchebag, but Quinn's a farking tool.

Um, which of those is supposed to be worse?

I would not want to vote for the guy trying to lower the minimum wage.  The entire economic philosophy those guys take as gospel has failed again and again.


Douchebag is definitely worse, I'm just not a fan of Quinn since he (A) vetoed a casino bill that would have generated some much needed revenue, (B) was against gay marriage up until a couple years ago when it was cool to be pro marriage equality (at least Obama said he was evolving, Quinn straight up was against it), (C) unconstituionally suspended lawmakers' salaries until they came up with pension reform (petty move really).

He's obviously better than Rauner but we could use a better governor.
 
2014-01-09 07:51:19 PM
Rauner changed his mind and said he now wants to raise minimum wage, so it's all good now.

/guy can go eat the biggest bag of dicks
 
2014-01-09 07:54:50 PM

flondrix: Um, which of those is supposed to be worse?


Honestly, the reason Democrats keep winning statewide races in Illinois is because the best and brightest of DuPage county and all points south keep nominating guys who got their political philosophy from Snidely Whiplash and Gordon Gecko. When a farmer in Ford County who used to think voting for a Gun-Grabbing, Gay Abortion-Having Democrat was an endorsement of Chicago Politics and the American Communist Party (and the Chicago Politician part is worse) starts thinking that maybe the way the Republican Gubernatorial candidate is talking is a mite unchristian,it's a bad sign for the GOP.
 
2014-01-09 08:06:15 PM

Corvus: A private equity executive you are more likely just laying people


Laying people OFF.

Actually, no, I guess you were right in the first place.
 
2014-01-09 08:19:00 PM

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2014-01-09 08:19:45 PM

Fark You I'm Drunk: Rauner changed his mind and said he now wants to raise minimum wage, so it's all good now.

/guy can go eat the biggest bag of dicks


That's the best part to me. He clearly said he wanted to lower the minimum wage a month ago and now that he's getting heat for it he totally reversed course. Not just a tool but a spineless tool.
 
2014-01-09 08:38:47 PM
That would make him Mayor Quimby, wouldn't it?
 
2014-01-09 08:45:53 PM

super_grass: That would make him Mayor Quimby, wouldn't it?


That may be an apt comparison.
 
2014-01-09 09:01:01 PM
There is a pet theory circulating that Rauner is an unelectable but fatally vain and egotistical sap, who is being played by political constants, eager to milk him for all the commissions and fees, lobbyingfunds, PAC donations, polls,  and media buys they can arrange to get commissions for.

The scarier idea is that the election campaign is straight-up legit. Because Rauner's entire campaign bolis down to:

"You are all stupid cattle I plan to abuse and destroy, and I can buy this job, if I just put enough commercials on your TV and radio."

It finally sorta worked for Jim Oberwiess, after all. And the consultants sure did make money off Romney and the Koch Brothers.
 
2014-01-09 09:45:39 PM
Now all Quinn needs to do is feed him Blinky for dinner.
 
2014-01-09 10:07:16 PM

Any Pie Left: There is a pet theory circulating that Rauner is an unelectable but fatally vain and egotistical sap, who is being played by political constants, eager to milk him for all the commissions and fees, lobbyingfunds, PAC donations, polls,  and media buys they can arrange to get commissions for.

The scarier idea is that the election campaign is straight-up legit. Because Rauner's entire campaign bolis down to:

"You are all stupid cattle I plan to abuse and destroy, and I can buy this job, if I just put enough commercials on your TV and radio."

It finally sorta worked for Jim Oberwiess, after all. And the consultants sure did make money off Romney and the Koch Brothers.


It did, once he had a campaign free of adds showing Soldier Field from a helicopter complaining about how many Mexicans were in Illinois.

Rauner is an easily spotted phony in his Carhart with the tags still on it. Amazing that it actually plays with some people.
 
2014-01-09 11:02:11 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: flondrix: Almost Everybody Poops: Rauner's a douchebag, but Quinn's a farking tool.

Um, which of those is supposed to be worse?

I would not want to vote for the guy trying to lower the minimum wage.  The entire economic philosophy those guys take as gospel has failed again and again.

Douchebag is definitely worse, I'm just not a fan of Quinn since he (A) vetoed a casino bill that would have generated some much needed revenue, (B) was against gay marriage up until a couple years ago when it was cool to be pro marriage equality (at least Obama said he was evolving, Quinn straight up was against it), (C) unconstituionally suspended lawmakers' salaries until they came up with pension reform (petty move really).

He's obviously better than Rauner but we could use a better governor.


Rauner's horrible. Quinn is just as bad. However I actually supported him on the pension reform move. The Senate and reps were dragging their feet on the dumbest shiat. They took 6 months to debate whether or not to actually pursue the CCW legislation -- not really a huge deal in scope of government but it would have been open season if they had let the deadline pass -- and needed an extension to finalize a bill they came up with in a few days. They were doing the same shiat with the pension bills, an exponentially more important issue. That pension fund is most of the reason the state owes money like a deadbeat alchie at the tracks.
 
2014-01-09 11:18:59 PM

Any Pie Left: There is a pet theory circulating that Rauner is an unelectable but fatally vain and egotistical sap, who is being played by political constants, eager to milk him for all the commissions and fees, lobbyingfunds, PAC donations, polls,  and media buys they can arrange to get commissions for.

The scarier idea is that the election campaign is straight-up legit. Because Rauner's entire campaign bolis down to:

"You are all stupid cattle I plan to abuse and destroy, and I can buy this job, if I just put enough commercials on your TV and radio."

It finally sorta worked for Jim Oberwiess, after all. And the consultants sure did make money off Romney and the Koch Brothers.


What's your CapitolFax username?
 
2014-01-09 11:22:53 PM
Rauner's latest SuperPAC ad really bothers me:

"There is NO EXCUSE for failing schools. NONE."

Uh, yeah, actually, there are some excuses I could think of. New standardized testing system is bullshiat, parents don't pay any goddamn attention to what their kids are doing after school, teacher's pay sucks...
 
2014-01-10 12:04:21 AM
REDMID 17:
"Rauner's horrible. Quinn is just as bad. However I actually supported him on the pension reform move. The Senate and reps were dragging their feet on the dumbest shiat. They took 6 months to debate whether or not to actually pursue the CCW legislation -- not really a huge deal in scope of government but it would have been open season if they had let the deadline pass -- and needed an extension to finalize a bill they came up with in a few days. They were doing the same shiat with the pension bills, an exponentially more important issue. That pension fund is most of the reason the state owes money like a deadbeat alchie at the tracks. "


Quinn blocking the legislators's pay had nothing to do with passing the pension bill. It actually had no affect on the speed of the work the panel was doing, and in fact, it probably slowed things down.  Quinn had every chance to be part of he pension negotiations, but spent the time cutting ribbons on new supermarkets and shiat like that, instead of attending the pension negotiation meetings. He pretended to champion different versions of the pension bill, but then also, back away from each one, essentially throwing up his hands and leaving it for Madigan to try and fix.   And it AIN'T fixed: you can put money on it that the courts are going to find the reduction in COLA for retirees to be unconstitutional. I give Quinn props on several fronts, such as his sincere love and care for veterans, and his populist but sincere support of environmental causes when nobody else in the government gave two shiats.  But  on this, he's as dishonest as Blago was.  He's a candy-ass who hid when the work was being done, and blamed others for any problems that came up, afraid to get tied to an unpopular position in an election cycle. He pretended that he had any influence on  he legistlative process thru press stunts and PR statements, while actually standing off, un-engaged.

Quinn's biggest mistake was to run for another term after taking over from Federal Corrections Inmate Number  4-0-8-9-2-4-2-4. History gave Quinn a unique opportunity at that time, to clean up the government, get rid of all the Blago cronies, make brave and principled decisions on the state budget and how the bureaucracy should run,, set the state on a hopeful course... and GET THE FARK OUT.  Had he done this, he would have been respected more than Ogilvie or Stevenson or Paul Simon.... they would have named grammar schools after him.

But he couldn't just walk away from the opportunity,  doing right, bowing to no-one, and going out on top.  He fell into the job by mistake, and started telling himself this was destiny and a mandate.  He's like the dog that finally caught up with the car he'd been chasing.

And he's steered it into a ditch.

I won't vote for him in the Primary, and I'll cross party lines to oppose his continued failure in office, as long as the Rep candidate isn't that rich idiot Rauner or the holy roller pilgrim Brady.
 
2014-01-10 12:13:29 AM
Rauner's latest SuperPAC ad really bothers me:

"There is NO EXCUSE for failing schools. NONE."


Rauner talking about fair schools... that's rich, coming from the guy that tried to clout his kid into the prestigious Peyton Prep by paying off Democratic  administration officials, and trying to fake his way thru the residency requirements by buying a third, fake home inside the Peyton district, which neither he nor his wife lived in.

You can't let uber-rich assholes like "Baron Von Carhartt"  just buy a governorship, like a farking mobster Russian oligarch.   The stakes for the average citizen are too high. Rauner can't actually DO half the damage he threatens to if elected, because he doesn't understand a Governor only executes the laws the Legislature gives him, with the funds they authorize.  But Rauner can do enough damage to hurt the state for a Loooonnnng time, while his rich friends loot the rotting corpse.

We're still paying for the damage Blago did: Rauner would only extend the pain.
 
2014-01-10 01:02:18 AM

Any Pie Left: REDMID 17:
"Rauner's horrible. Quinn is just as bad. However I actually supported him on the pension reform move. The Senate and reps were dragging their feet on the dumbest shiat. They took 6 months to debate whether or not to actually pursue the CCW legislation -- not really a huge deal in scope of government but it would have been open season if they had let the deadline pass -- and needed an extension to finalize a bill they came up with in a few days. They were doing the same shiat with the pension bills, an exponentially more important issue. That pension fund is most of the reason the state owes money like a deadbeat alchie at the tracks. "


Quinn blocking the legislators's pay had nothing to do with passing the pension bill. It actually had no affect on the speed of the work the panel was doing, and in fact, it probably slowed things down.  Quinn had every chance to be part of he pension negotiations, but spent the time cutting ribbons on new supermarkets and shiat like that, instead of attending the pension negotiation meetings. He pretended to champion different versions of the pension bill, but then also, back away from each one, essentially throwing up his hands and leaving it for Madigan to try and fix.   And it AIN'T fixed: you can put money on it that the courts are going to find the reduction in COLA for retirees to be unconstitutional. I give Quinn props on several fronts, such as his sincere love and care for veterans, and his populist but sincere support of environmental causes when nobody else in the government gave two shiats.  But  on this, he's as dishonest as Blago was.  He's a candy-ass who hid when the work was being done, and blamed others for any problems that came up, afraid to get tied to an unpopular position in an election cycle. He pretended that he had any influence on  he legistlative process thru press stunts and PR statements, while actually standing off, un-engaged.

Quinn's biggest mistake was to run for another term after tak ...


Quinn might not have had much to do with the bill but he did shake some boots. Not gonna lie, his reluctance/refusal to approve a gambling bill has done a lot to drive my girlfriend's family out of state. Not that I mind, since Indiana is a preferred destination, the greatest state in the country, and home to most of my extended family. They would be driven out of state for purely income reasons, like you mentioned. Gambling and horse racing generates a lot of money for the state and many residents. I like Dillard. Rauner is the worst. I could be convinced of many in between.
 
2014-01-10 01:43:04 AM

Almost Everybody Poops: He's obviously better than Rauner but we could use a better governor.


I like Vallas. Anyone who could turn around the CPS (at the time) deserves a legitimate shot at governor.

/though Vallas is the Lt Gov candidate
 
2014-01-10 01:59:18 AM

super_grass: That would make him Mayor Quimby, wouldn't it?


OK so we get an election between mayor Quimby and Mayor West.

No I really do not like Quinn.  But I like pretty much all Republicans less.  It sucks to live in IL and have these sort of "choices" every damn time.

/pro-2A Liberal here
 
2014-01-10 05:19:47 AM
El loco Perro Senior Burns
 
2014-01-10 10:02:41 AM

odinsposse: Fark You I'm Drunk: Rauner changed his mind and said he now wants to raise minimum wage, so it's all good now.

/guy can go eat the biggest bag of dicks

That's the best part to me. He clearly said he wanted to lower the minimum wage a month ago and now that he's getting heat for it he totally reversed course. Not just a tool but a spineless tool.


A true Republican at this point would double down and decide that the workers should pay their employers for the liberty and freedom of working at this point. So there's hope.
 
2014-01-10 10:06:36 AM
Oh, it should also be noted that Rauner had an ad about how term limits are awesome, comparing himself to George Washington and Ronald Reagan...even though Reagan himself said that term limits should be abolished.

So at least he has that whole Reaganrevisionism thing going for him.
 
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