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(LA Times)   Survey finds that bosses are more satisified with their jobs than employees. But still not as satisfied with their jobs as those paid to conduct this survey   (latimes.com ) divider line
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2014-01-09 04:05:29 PM  
A recent survey of federal employees found the same thing.

It's good to be king.
 
2014-01-09 04:11:34 PM  
I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted.  I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  I'm the boss, every day is my day.  Why the hell should bosses get a special day?  What will Hallmark think of next?"  Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.
 
2014-01-09 04:19:36 PM  
Are not bosses themselves employees?

/A boss
//And an employee
 
2014-01-09 04:20:09 PM  
FLMountainMan

I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted. I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm the boss, every day is my day. Why the hell should bosses get a special day? What will Hallmark think of next?" Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.


That's why I always invite my boss.
 
2014-01-09 04:21:49 PM  

Dimensio: Are not bosses themselves employees?

/A boss
//And an employee


i think there's difference between a boss and a manager.

/ although, nowadays, even bosses have oversight in the form of the board of directors, who are overseen by the shareholders... who are definitely not bosses...
// lead's one to ask... Who's the Boss?

/// answer: Tony Danza.
 
2014-01-09 04:24:34 PM  
by Ric Romero.
 
2014-01-09 04:25:55 PM  

Dirtybird971: FLMountainMan

I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted. I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm the boss, every day is my day. Why the hell should bosses get a special day? What will Hallmark think of next?" Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.

That's why I always invite my boss.


For me, it's a rule if you're going to expense it.  Most senior has to pay.

While I'd like make this about the income gap/stagnant wages/yadda yadda, isn't it somewhat of a truism regardless of the times?
 
2014-01-09 04:27:30 PM  
Next on FARK:
Rich people are happier and drive better looking cars than me.
 
2014-01-09 04:27:37 PM  
Subby's mom is always more satisfied when I let her be the boss.
 
2014-01-09 04:38:03 PM  

pute kisses like a man: Dimensio: Are not bosses themselves employees?

/A boss
//And an employee

i think there's difference between a boss and a manager.

/ although, nowadays, even bosses have oversight in the form of the board of directors, who are overseen by the shareholders... who are definitely not bosses...
// lead's one to ask... Who's the Boss?

/// answer: Tony Danza.


NO
 
2014-01-09 04:38:29 PM  

Diogenes: Dirtybird971: FLMountainMan

I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted. I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm the boss, every day is my day. Why the hell should bosses get a special day? What will Hallmark think of next?" Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.

That's why I always invite my boss.

For me, it's a rule if you're going to expense it.  Most senior has to pay.

While I'd like make this about the income gap/stagnant wages/yadda yadda, isn't it somewhat of a truism regardless of the times?


if i go to lunch with my boss, i expect him to pay (there's no way in hell I would pay for lunch where he wants to go... that's a week worth of lunches for me)

/ when we go some place cheap, i pretend to pull out cash.  but it's all theater.
// i'm a lawyer, and he's my boss.  there is a very strict etiquette to who pays for lunch.  especially when there are other lawyers, third parties, and/or clients. the most junior lawyer in the room does not pay for anyone's lunch.  because he's poor. lawyers don't make all that much money at the beginning, considering all the expenses and debt to get there.  unless you're related to somebody important.
/// if any of your children want to be lawyers, ask them one question: who in your family is a prominent lawyer/judge.  if the answer is less than two people who are on very familiar terms, tell them they do not belong in the practice of law.
 
2014-01-09 04:39:25 PM  

Dimensio: Are not bosses themselves employees?

/A boss
//And an employee


If you don't own the place your just middle management.
 
2014-01-09 04:43:59 PM  

odinsposse: pute kisses like a man: Dimensio: Are not bosses themselves employees?

/A boss
//And an employee

i think there's difference between a boss and a manager.

/ although, nowadays, even bosses have oversight in the form of the board of directors, who are overseen by the shareholders... who are definitely not bosses...
// lead's one to ask... Who's the Boss?

/// answer: Tony Danza.

NO


ok.  i stand corrected.
 
2014-01-09 04:45:21 PM  

pute kisses like a man: Diogenes: Dirtybird971: FLMountainMan

I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted. I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm the boss, every day is my day. Why the hell should bosses get a special day? What will Hallmark think of next?" Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.

That's why I always invite my boss.

For me, it's a rule if you're going to expense it.  Most senior has to pay.

While I'd like make this about the income gap/stagnant wages/yadda yadda, isn't it somewhat of a truism regardless of the times?

if i go to lunch with my boss, i expect him to pay (there's no way in hell I would pay for lunch where he wants to go... that's a week worth of lunches for me)

/ when we go some place cheap, i pretend to pull out cash.  but it's all theater.
// i'm a lawyer, and he's my boss.   there is a very strict etiquette to who pays for lunch. especially when there are other lawyers, third parties, and/or clients. the most junior lawyer in the room does not pay for anyone's lunch.  because he's poor. lawyers don't make all that much money at the beginning, considering all the expenses and debt to get there.  unless you're related to somebody important.
/// if any of your children want to be lawyers, ask them one question: who in your family is a prominent lawyer/judge.  if the answer is less than two people who are on very familiar terms, tell them they do not belong in the practice of law.


As a client, I know goddamned well who is paying for your lunch, and it has nothing to do with who hands the server his Amex card.
 
2014-01-09 04:51:42 PM  
www.humorhaus.com
 
2014-01-09 05:33:01 PM  
Like a Boss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-E0KGjJAx8

Bonus--no Springsteen.
 
2014-01-09 05:40:30 PM  
Survey finds that bosses are more satisified with their jobs than employees. But still not as satisfied with their jobs as those paid to conduct this survey

Because they are now out of work.  Nice.
 
2014-01-09 05:44:44 PM  

Diogenes: Dirtybird971: FLMountainMan

I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted. I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm the boss, every day is my day. Why the hell should bosses get a special day? What will Hallmark think of next?" Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.

That's why I always invite my boss.

For me, it's a rule if you're going to expense it.  Most senior has to pay.

While I'd like make this about the income gap/stagnant wages/yadda yadda, isn't it somewhat of a truism regardless of the times?


For something that's getting expensed, my old boss would always ask one of us to pay. That way, he could approve it without anyone else noticing. He used to reward me by telling me to take my wife out for a nice dinner and expense it. It avoids a lot of butthurt from HR types.
 
2014-01-09 05:51:44 PM  

Diogenes: Dirtybird971: FLMountainMan

I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted. I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm the boss, every day is my day. Why the hell should bosses get a special day? What will Hallmark think of next?" Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.

That's why I always invite my boss.

For me, it's a rule if you're going to expense it.  Most senior has to pay.

While I'd like make this about the income gap/stagnant wages/yadda yadda, isn't it somewhat of a truism regardless of the times?


I'm a government employee.  There's never a lunch on the company's dollar.  If I pay, I pay out of pocket.
 
2014-01-09 05:51:49 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: pute kisses like a man: Diogenes: Dirtybird971: FLMountainMan

I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted. I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm the boss, every day is my day. Why the hell should bosses get a special day? What will Hallmark think of next?" Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.

That's why I always invite my boss.

For me, it's a rule if you're going to expense it.  Most senior has to pay.

While I'd like make this about the income gap/stagnant wages/yadda yadda, isn't it somewhat of a truism regardless of the times?

if i go to lunch with my boss, i expect him to pay (there's no way in hell I would pay for lunch where he wants to go... that's a week worth of lunches for me)

/ when we go some place cheap, i pretend to pull out cash.  but it's all theater.
// i'm a lawyer, and he's my boss.   there is a very strict etiquette to who pays for lunch.  especially when there are other lawyers, third parties, and/or clients. the most junior lawyer in the room does not pay for anyone's lunch.  because he's poor. lawyers don't make all that much money at the beginning, considering all the expenses and debt to get there.  unless you're related to somebody important.
/// if any of your children want to be lawyers, ask them one question: who in your family is a prominent lawyer/judge.  if the answer is less than two people who are on very familiar terms, tell them they do not belong in the practice of law.

As a client, I know goddamned well who is paying for your lunch, and it has nothing to do with who hands the server his Amex card.


This
 
2014-01-09 06:49:20 PM  
It isn't necessarily bosses that are satisfied, but influencers. Influencers are able to make decisions, sometimes without any approval depending on the pecking order. When you have more control over your happiness, the happier you will ultimately be. Rarely do you have organizations where employees can and will freely ask for things or ask for things to be put for a vote. Let's say your normal hours of operation are 8-5, and your kid gets out of school at 4, so you would like to be home when they get home. The person who is able to ask and be allowed to change their schedule to accommodate this is going to be happier than the person who is restricted. A lot of times this is a "privilege" reserved for those in charge to control their own schedules not because management doesn't care, but as soon as you allow something for one person, you have to extend that same option or treatment out to everyone. Since you let Nancy get off work earlier, now Carlie wants the same schedule so she can let her dog out and go to the gym. All of a sudden, now you are short staffed at the end of the day and really, their hours aren't 7-4 but closer to 8-4 and they lose an hour of productivity.

People think it is unfair that I come into work later than everyone else. What they don't see is that I work late almost every night, work remotely at home, and have events to entertain clients 2-3 times a week usually. Am I more content than others who have to follow a stricter time table? Sure, but last time we tried to offer flexible hours people wanted, everyone complained that X, Y, Z person was gone and they had to take their workload or phone calls + people started to take advantage of the system. Owning your own business is not easy and sometimes your policies have to be a little more firm. I would love to be super laid-back and democratic, but ultimately, whenever we invite a collective vote to the mix, the people who don't get their way even if they are the minority, end up pissed off. There is less push-back to roll out a structured policy and say it is what it is, than go the democratic route in most organizations. If you are blessed with all like personalities and a smaller office, you can get by with this however. This is why usually, I find that smaller offices are in general happier since the company is more flexible. The only downside is that this normally means less structure, which for some people is incredibly frustrating when things are enforced inconsistently.
 
2014-01-09 07:13:09 PM  
I've been a manager of some sort for over a decade and I love it.  The only time I hated it was my first batch of employees.  The company I was at was shelling out millions to Sun every year for hardware and software, so they decided anything that could be cut over to linux was going to get cut over.

So they created a new "linux team" that consisted of repurposed Solaris admins from other teams around the company, and they promoted me to manager.  Instead of populating the team with people who were competent, the other teams sent their driftwood.  No one on the team was under the age of 45.  They were all neckbeards.  One guy's sole responsibility for 22 years was creating print queues on Solaris servers.  None of them wanted to learn linux, much less implement it anywhere in the company.

So they stonewalled.  Or they set up servers configured so poorly we would have had to spend three times what we were sending to Sun for equivalent Intel hardware.  After six months of active sabotage and getting nowhere on the project (every presentation they made argued that any linux implementation would cost more than Sun in the long run), I got approval to bring in a contractor and fix the servers they had configured.  It took less than a week to get the numbers we were looking for.  I was livid, and wanted to fire the whole team of eight guys.  My own boss wouldn't let me, but he did say I had to have a "Come to Jesus" meeting with them.

So I called a meeting and told them that linux was coming because people way above all our pay grades had decided on it.  So they all had a decision to make:  they could learn how to make it work well for us, or they could seek employment elsewhere.  I made it clear that we had deadlines and goals to meet and everyone would be held to them.  I also pointed out that if contractors could come in and do the job we expected of our own employees once, they could do it again, and eventually someone was going to wonder why we were paying people twice to do one thing.

I only lasted about 8 months after that, but they got in line for the most part.  We did fire printer guy because he was utterly incompetent, but at least he started trying.

It was one of the only times I've run into an entire group of employees who were under the impression that their job wouldn't ever change - and that any attempt to do so was to be met with resistance and insolence.  Even if you're a factory worker working on the line, if you're doing wheels one day and someone says "Frank, we need you on door handles" you don't say "Oh, I only do wheels."
 
2014-01-09 07:17:51 PM  

pute kisses like a man: Dimensio: Are not bosses themselves employees?

/A boss
//And an employee

i think there's difference between a boss and a manager.

/ although, nowadays, even bosses have oversight in the form of the board of directors, who are overseen by the shareholders... who are definitely not bosses...
// lead's one to ask... Who's the Boss?

/// answer: Tony Danza.


Nobody is the boss, get it? That way nobody is responsible for shiat going down.

corporations are people! So who the fark is the boss? And how do we hang them?
 
2014-01-09 07:20:14 PM  
As an employer, my general happiness depends a great deal on the happiness of my staff. Their happiness influences how they treat customers, turnover and correctness of the job done. So, we pay a little more, buy lunches often and try to be good to good employees by firing the bad ones.
 
2014-01-09 07:49:49 PM  
I have the best boss in the world.  He gives me broad outlines of what he wants done.  He provides me with sufficient tools to get the job done.  He leaves me alone and doesn't interrupt or interfere with me as I do my work.  He always gives me positive reinforcement. It's great working for my dad.
 
2014-01-09 09:37:34 PM  

Dimensio: Are not bosses themselves employees?

/A boss
//And an employee


No.

If you area Boss (and you know if you are) you are not an "employee." You may be employed by the same company, but there's "us" and there's "them." We know who you are.
 
2014-01-09 10:56:11 PM  
Just don't ever tell them they have some left-overs on their chin. And make sure that both of their hands are visible at all times.
 
2014-01-10 10:25:59 AM  

mizchief: As a client, I know goddamned well who is paying for your lunch, and it has nothing to do with who hands the server his Amex card.

As i client I like to eat and drink back as much of my money as possible.


if someone takes me to lunch, i don't charge them for the hour.  So, unless you're ordering bottles of fancy wine, you're saving money.

/ i figure it evens out.  the hour is less productive than a normal hour, but it's still work.  so, the price of lunch equals the reduced rate of work, but accounts for the fact that something is happening.
// but, some of my best strategies have come up during lunch... either lunch, or midnight in some dreamlike haze, when Law calls me by name.
 
2014-01-10 10:59:58 AM  

mizchief: FLMountainMan: Diogenes: Dirtybird971: FLMountainMan

I was shocked when my employees mentioned "Bosses' Day" to me and asked me what I wanted. I told them something like, "thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm the boss, every day is my day. Why the hell should bosses get a special day? What will Hallmark think of next?" Wound up taking them to lunch, which was probably their plan all along.

That's why I always invite my boss.

For me, it's a rule if you're going to expense it.  Most senior has to pay.

While I'd like make this about the income gap/stagnant wages/yadda yadda, isn't it somewhat of a truism regardless of the times?

I'm a government employee.  There's never a lunch on the company's dollar.  If I pay, I pay out of pocket.

you should join the DEA, my ex's sis in law was an agent and would tell us about all the wild nights of drinking they would put on the company tab.


I'd question that practice, but I'd hate to be accused of supporting terrorism.
 
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