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(The New Republic)   Want to stick it to the capitalists--but also to the hotties on campus? You might be a 'brocialist'   (newrepublic.com) divider line 24
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2014-01-09 12:51:55 PM  
6 votes:
"Brocialists," she explains, are "guys who are so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong."

Sounds like the average liberal to me, both man and woman.
2014-01-09 12:49:12 PM  
5 votes:
No.
2014-01-09 01:45:36 PM  
3 votes:

mizchief: yakmans_dad: For some reason or other, opposition to capitalism is assumed  to turn a man into some kind of celibate monk. Is that in response to the fact that capitalists are blood sucking monsters?

If you want to talk about the top 1% wall street CEO types, then sure you can call them monsters whatever.

But the vast majority are small business owners who just want to support their families on their own terms vs. working for someone else. They live in our communities, actually get stuck paying taxes (and end up catching the bill for all the "tax the rich" hysteria)  and are just normal people.


There's also a lot of capitalists who can actually follow history.

If I take a reasonably-pure capitalist society and a socialist society, both equally rich, and come back a century from now, I can absolutely guarantee that the capitalist society is richer.  By an order of magnitude.  I can also almost certainly guarantee that the socialist society got taken over by idiots at some point, who immediately proceeded to murder millions of people in crackdowns and utterly farked-up agricultural policies leading to famine.

/Of course, reasonably pure in practice breaks down as "The bits of socialism that I like" like "good education and infrastructure".
2014-01-09 12:59:36 PM  
3 votes:
FTA:  "...guys who are so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong."

Yeah, we call 'em "girls".
2014-01-09 12:49:40 PM  
3 votes:
Well, that's the most retarded made-up word I've seen so far this week. Congratulations.
2014-01-09 01:07:22 PM  
2 votes:
a good leftist


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2014-01-09 01:04:40 PM  
2 votes:
Aww aren't those little college students so precious. They think their concerns and "ideas" are important and are going to change the world.

Of course then they get out of school with their Journalism, English, Womyns Studies, Theater, etc... degrees and find out that the world just does not give a shiat about how liberal or conservative they are. Suck it up you precious snowflakes and learn to make money, the only way you will ever get power is to become rich.
2014-01-09 12:55:34 PM  
2 votes:

Eskaminagaga: "Brocialists," she explains, are "guys who are so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong."

Sounds like the average liberal to me, both man and woman.


Sounds like the average conservative christian to me.
2014-01-09 07:09:37 PM  
1 votes:
FTA:
"Misogyny within the left has historically inspired women's rights movements," feminist intellectual Susan Faludi told me.

I'm a big fan of her, and her books - Backlash is a must read in social sciences at large.

That said, this is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Misogyny within the left is what does it? Come on. Women's Suffrage came from not being able to vote, not snide micro-aggressions from.... sigh, may as well embrace the derp, "brogressives". I feel dirty...

Anyway, Women's Rights Movements generally form, and stop if this seems obvious, when women's right - or lack there of - are at issue. Women have tried to get the vote in every country that won't let them. Some at different times, depending on the country, but it's something that happened. Criminalizing domestic violence, wanting equal pay, these are things that foment and catalyze women's rights movements... all rights movements... amongst all people, because there is injustice going on.

It's probably just one line out of context, but come on. Saying stuff like that is bad for the discourse in general. Also, and this was in person - at a bar - if you want to see if you're talking a sexist feminist (or MRA) it's easy - try this.

Q: How much should a working woman make?
If the answer is "As much as a man." They are sexist. If it's "more than men" just leave the conversation, because that person is crazy.

Proper answers from anyone with a soul should be something along the lines of "A living wage." or "Enough to get by." That sets a baseline for an actually egalitarian conversation and mode of thinking. Anything else, in my opinion, is suspect. Why? Because if you think the genitalia of a human being should preclude them from having access to or the means to acquire food, shelter, and the basic necessities of life you are a BAD PERSON. End sentence. Full stop.

The political discourse on this topic is so utterly poisoned, in such disrepair, that people who are really trying to agree on subjects can't surmount it in person, let alone the always polarizing internet.

Very sad state of affairs.

/my thoughts.
2014-01-09 06:29:26 PM  
1 votes:
So, an oblique way for the Jezebel set to say, "stop talking about class inequality and injustice when we SHOULD be talking about sexism.  Hold your tongue while I speak, phallist."

The unchecked power of the (now-unisex) Power Elite or the use of Trigger Words: which is more likely to tank civilization?  Discuss.
2014-01-09 06:23:38 PM  
1 votes:

ciberido: mod3072: Well, that's the most retarded made-up word I've seen so far this week. Congratulations.

starsrift: No. This does not need to be a thing.

The word itself is stupid and annoying, I agree.

But it would be useful to have a word that means something like "man who is otherwise liberal/progressive but not a supporter of feminism," if for no other reason than that so many exist.  I just wish someone would come up with a less puerile term.


If you treat a woman the way she asks to be treated you get to be her friend, if you treat her like a dirty whore,you get to be her lover.
2014-01-09 04:47:22 PM  
1 votes:
FTA - " .. The "brocialist" is generally a good leftist .."

Stop right there. Article is already lying. There is no such thing as a 'good' Leftist. They're all mental cases who need to be sterilized. You know, Margaret Sanger style ..
2014-01-09 02:57:47 PM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Eskaminagaga: "Brocialists," she explains, are "guys who are so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong."

Sounds like the average liberal to me, both man and woman.

Sounds like the average conservative christian to me.


+1
2014-01-09 02:10:13 PM  
1 votes:
stop.  just stop.
2014-01-09 02:00:17 PM  
1 votes:

CygnusDarius: Also, I'm amazed that the Fark Independents, trolls, and shills are out in force this morning.


Well, all of the out of work liberal progressives(excpect hotwing) haven't gotten up to collect their subsidy checks yet.
2014-01-09 01:52:49 PM  
1 votes:

mizchief: Sure, but a dude can't hang his 12 point buck trophy over the fireplace? It's seldom about safety, most people aren't that stupid to insist on keeping the blow torch in the kids play room, it's about decorative issues and the patronization of the things men like to do.


Women don't want to hang deer heads on the wall because it's tacky, not because they want to oppress men. Taxidermy hasn't been a cool thing for a long time now.

Every single wife I know allows XBoxes and big screen TVs in their living rooms because it makes their men happy. They hate them, they do not play them, and they do not like the idea of their kids growing up playing games and watching TV all day, but they still allow them for the sake of their men. I know a number of wives who do the same thing for pets.

You and I have very different views of what constitutes manliness. A lot of traditionally manly activities, like hunting and processing deer, involves a lot of work that most modern men just aren't in to. A lot of modern manly activities, like playing video games, are completely socially acceptable.
2014-01-09 01:50:21 PM  
1 votes:

Whiskey Dickens: http://mylifeisbro.com/

You're welcome.


That's site it pretty chill. I'll prolly read some more while getting dome later.
2014-01-09 01:31:42 PM  
1 votes:

yakmans_dad: For some reason or other, opposition to capitalism is assumed  to turn a man into some kind of celibate monk. Is that in response to the fact that capitalists are blood sucking monsters?


If you want to talk about the top 1% wall street CEO types, then sure you can call them monsters whatever.

But the vast majority are small business owners who just want to support their families on their own terms vs. working for someone else. They live in our communities, actually get stuck paying taxes (and end up catching the bill for all the "tax the rich" hysteria)  and are just normal people.
2014-01-09 01:18:17 PM  
1 votes:
I think it's the opposite problem. As women have gained more political power we have been slowly transitioning into a more socialist country. Women being more compassionate and less competitive, and have a higher desire for stability vs. risk & reward would naturally be drawn to socialist ideas. And men wanting to gain the affections of those women just agree and claim try to gain power in those movements since they thing it will attract more women.

All of this "bro" stuff and man-bags, and man-caves and the whole movember crazyness is just the continued pussification of the american male (RIP George) that take all that is manly and degrade it into just cute little quirks men like to do in their special little part of the house.
2014-01-09 01:08:22 PM  
1 votes:
This is a word for people whose heads explode when you defy their labels. Clearly the solution is another label to define you as.

I'm all for a lot of liberal/progressive policies, but I can't ever see myself being a crusader for women's rights or women's issues. I work in a field where women are so under represented that the ones we do have are treated like queens, regardless of whether they do a good job or not. I get enough of that entitlement at the office.
2014-01-09 01:05:32 PM  
1 votes:
Sounds like a guy who believes in fairness regardless of gender and doesn't like special-rights for one. Hardly needs a name (unless you're a frustrated femi-nazi).
2014-01-09 12:53:56 PM  
1 votes:
So we have another term for people who aren't sufficiently onboard with the feminist agenda? Thank god. I was tired of having to use all the other ones over and over.
2014-01-09 12:53:49 PM  
1 votes:
Use terms like 'Brocialist?'  You might be an 'asshole'
2014-01-09 12:50:58 PM  
1 votes:

CruJones: No.


mod3072: Well, that's the most retarded made-up word I've seen so far this week. Congratulations.


starsrift: No. This does not need to be a thing.

 
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