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2014-01-09 02:06:17 PM  
If you know how to use it this is the last razor you will ever buy
tracemypreps.files.wordpress.com

and it don't cost no $500
 
2014-01-09 02:17:36 PM  
The only star trek technology I've ever been truly envious of was the laser razor from next generation.
 
2014-01-09 02:26:41 PM  
I actually bought the last razor I would ever buy 10 years ago.  I think it was one of those Gelette 3 blade jobbies.

Now all I need to do is find a last trimmer you will ever buy.   Mine avg about 4 years before something goes wrong.
 
2014-01-09 02:31:25 PM  
www.fendrihan.com
A 10 pack lasts me a couple years. Along with a decent safety razor, a badger hair brush and some Taylor of Old Bond Street and you will actually save money (and skin) compared to those 15 blade monstrosities and canned gels/creams.
 
2014-01-09 02:35:03 PM  

jxb465: [www.fendrihan.com image 387x386]
A 10 pack lasts me a couple years. Along with a decent safety razor, a badger hair brush and some Taylor of Old Bond Street and you will actually save money (and skin) compared to those 15 blade monstrosities and canned gels/creams.


Yeah, that's what I use. Guy in the article is complaining about the astronomical cost of 3 or 4 blade cartridges, when you can get a lifetime supply of double-edged blades for about a nickle. And they give a closer shave than the Mach whatevers anyway.
 
2014-01-09 02:42:15 PM  

Saiga410: I actually bought the last razor I would ever buy 10 years ago.  I think it was one of those Gelette 3 blade jobbies.

Now all I need to do is find a last trimmer you will ever buy.   Mine avg about 4 years before something goes wrong.


Only had this trimmer 9 months or so, but haven't had a single problem. Completely waterproof, makes rinsing easy, and you can use it in the shower, and just the single guard that adjusts with a dial in half millimeter increments. Hell, I usually just use this without the guard, and get pretty close to the kind of shave I get from my Braun electric. This page thinks it's hard to add 3 drops of oil to the blade, but I think they're just a bunch of nancys.

http://www.beardguide.com/panasonic-er-gb40-s-beard-trimmer-review/
 
2014-01-09 02:47:24 PM  
Sounds like a pain in the ass, shave in one direction at one angle, then another direction in a completely diffeent angle, then a third direction at yet another angle. But remember; first you have to use a certain brush and apply the special shaving cream in a specific direction as well.


THIS IS WHY I PUT OFF SHAVING AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

I'm like TFA of TFA, I have those whiskers that still dance around no matter what I farking do. I use the trimmer I listed above without a guard and almost get what would count as a shave. If I need more, I whip out the electric and finish it off. This is just a ridiculous amount of work.
 
2014-01-09 02:47:27 PM  

jxb465: A 10 pack lasts me a couple years. Along with a decent safety razor, a badger hair brush and some Taylor of Old Bond Street and you will actually save money (and skin) compared to those 15 blade monstrosities and canned gels/creams.


This is almost my exact setup. I have a 60s gilette razor I picked up in an antique store for $10, astra blades that come 100 for $10, a cheap badger brush ($15 and it's on it's 4th year now), and some Taylor Sandalwood scent. I love it.
 
2014-01-09 02:51:24 PM  

Mikey1969: But remember; first you have to use a certain brush and apply the special shaving cream in a specific direction as well.


Oh, you don't have to, but it's awesome. My favorite part of shaving is lathering the soap onto my face. I actually look forward to it.
 
2014-01-09 02:57:50 PM  

Mikey1969: Sounds like a pain in the ass, shave in one direction at one angle, then another direction in a completely diffeent angle, then a third direction at yet another angle. But remember; first you have to use a certain brush and apply the special shaving cream in a specific direction as well.


THIS IS WHY I PUT OFF SHAVING AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

I'm like TFA of TFA, I have those whiskers that still dance around no matter what I farking do. I use the trimmer I listed above without a guard and almost get what would count as a shave. If I need more, I whip out the electric and finish it off. This is just a ridiculous amount of work.


I go back and forth between the Safety Razor and the Mach III. Safety is great, gives a clean shave, but takes much longer. If I'm in a hurry, it's the Mach III for sure. Also, no point farking around with the nose divot, etc with Safety razor, when the Mach III can handle it quick and painless.

Combo FTW
 
2014-01-09 03:00:16 PM  
That article author was stupid. He kept calling it a "straight-razor", but it's not. See Kanemano for one of those.

My wife got me a DE setup for Christmas, and I love the shave I get with it. The first time I used it (no nicks!) I knew I was a convert for life and sold my Mach 3 cartridges on Craigslist (except two for flying). ProTIP: MaggardRazors.com sells sample packs of shaving cream, blades, etc. Price per ounce is higher but you can try a dozen different scents and brands to see what you like.

www.westcoastshaving.com
 
2014-01-09 03:05:59 PM  
I'm a bit annoyed because I found a really low-priced handle and cartridge kit that work fine (Wilkinson Sword Tech 3, $5 for 4 blades) but it appears they're being discontinued and getting really hard to find. I'm not spending any more money than that for cartridge shaving. When I run out of cartridges I'm likely to switch to a safety razor instead. Not gonna buy a $500 self-sharpening razor. You could buy a lifetime supply of razors and sharpening tools for that kind of money.

Did just spend $40 on a new best badger brush today though. The hairs were falling out of my old one.
 
2014-01-09 03:06:10 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Mikey1969: But remember; first you have to use a certain brush and apply the special shaving cream in a specific direction as well.

Oh, you don't have to, but it's awesome. My favorite part of shaving is lathering the soap onto my face. I actually look forward to it.


I got a shave at Art of Shaving a few years back, and THAT was nice, but I can't see myself spending that much time on the shave, although I do agree, even with the cheap shaving creams and gels, having your face lathered up is kinda a security blanket feeling. Until it starts to dry out, that is.

Hebalo: Mikey1969: Sounds like a pain in the ass, shave in one direction at one angle, then another direction in a completely diffeent angle, then a third direction at yet another angle. But remember; first you have to use a certain brush and apply the special shaving cream in a specific direction as well.


THIS IS WHY I PUT OFF SHAVING AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

I'm like TFA of TFA, I have those whiskers that still dance around no matter what I farking do. I use the trimmer I listed above without a guard and almost get what would count as a shave. If I need more, I whip out the electric and finish it off. This is just a ridiculous amount of work.

I go back and forth between the Safety Razor and the Mach III. Safety is great, gives a clean shave, but takes much longer. If I'm in a hurry, it's the Mach III for sure. Also, no point farking around with the nose divot, etc with Safety razor, when the Mach III can handle it quick and painless.

Combo FTW


I'm really in love with the trimmer I have, and I do the mustache and goatee thing to look at least within 15 years of my age, so I HAVE been toying with the idea of a nice safety razor, since I don't have to deal with stuff like the nose divot, but this article made me nervous.
 
2014-01-09 03:10:55 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Mikey1969: But remember; first you have to use a certain brush and apply the special shaving cream in a specific direction as well.

Oh, you don't have to, but it's awesome. My favorite part of shaving is lathering the soap onto my face. I actually look forward to it.


+1 for this.  It's actually a very enjoyable experience (and if you know what you're doing... not that it's hard... it makes a difference in the quality of the shave).

I've gotten to the point of using a scuttle just to keep the shaving cream warm (and to keep everything nice and contained).  If I haven't shaved in a few days/weeks, it definitely makes life a lot easier.

/Muhle R89 with Feather blades
 
2014-01-09 03:11:03 PM  
Isn't shaving one of the few legal things that can happen in a public bathroom?
 
2014-01-09 03:38:04 PM  

Foundling: Isn't shaving one of the few legal things that can happen in a public bathroom?


I don't know why the author is so amazed at this... I'm pretty sure I've come across someone doing it once or twice, it's not like they're giving themselves an enema in the sink or something. Besides, they were in a coffee shop, where they probably met for the interview, would the author rather that the guy do it in the handwash sink? Or better yet, they could have rented a hotel room for the afternoon and bonded...
 
2014-01-09 03:40:10 PM  
I used to use the multi blade 40 bucks a pack stuff.

Then, one day on a whim, I bought a 10 pack of bic double blade disposables.  After two shaves, I questioned my sanity for every buying into that multiblade hype.  These work just fine...

Sure, its shiat for the environment, but, I am pretty green in other ways.
 
2014-01-09 04:02:53 PM  
If I want to pee at work between 10 and 10:30 every morning, I have to watch a man shave.  And I'm not even a tech journalist!

He has a 30 minute morning routine that apparently has to be done 2 hours into his work day.

/Management keeps sending emails about toothpaste scum left on the counter.
//Last day is in 4 days, so neener neener neener.
 
2014-01-09 04:06:40 PM  
Or you could buy a 30-pack of multi-blade self-lubricating disposables for like two bucks and you're covered for a couple months (about the same as a five-pack of "real" safety razor blades) at a fraction of the cost.

That's my cost-effectiveness standard, so to get me to spend 500$ on a razor you're going to have to demonstrate that I won't have to buy  anything else to shave with for... 41 years and 4 months to reach the same price-point.

// Even a straight-razor involves replacing strops and brushes and lathering isn't optional.
// Despite the above, I usually do use a replaceable-head safety razor just because the extra 5$ a month is worth producing a tenth of the trash.
 
2014-01-09 04:27:12 PM  
I stopped shaving completly about a decade ago and sport a lovely bigole gnarly beard for my troubles.

Of course I work in a brewery, so my beard is actually practical for my profesion.

but, that's not why I'm responding in this thread. I meen more to speak about the guy decision to use indieagogo over kickstarter.

as I understand it, and please correct me if I am wrong folks... Indieagogo alows you to keep the funds donated to your project, where as with kickstarter, if you don't make your goal then no money changes hands.

like I said, I have no need for the mans product. but its looking to be a shaving geek thread. I can also appreciate that. If I ever take up that bizarre habit again I intend to go with the whole straight razor ritual
 
2014-01-09 04:45:23 PM  
So let's see, $500 up front, $100 every 5 years to get a new factory installed blade (meaning that I can't shave for a while when I have to mail my razor back to the factory), extra $ when the auto-sharpener inevitably breaks and has to be replaced (not that they would mention the possibility of that ever happening nor that the sharpener must make up the bulk of the up-front price), a special brush, special cream, and then you get to follow "elaborate instructions" to get the perfect shave and you get to give money to some douchebag. Yeah, that sounds like a better system.
 
2014-01-09 04:59:40 PM  

Kanemano: If you know how to use it this is the last razor you will ever buy
[tracemypreps.files.wordpress.com image 850x565]

and it don't cost no $500


If you don't know how to use it, it will also be the last razor you'll ever buy.
 
2014-01-09 05:01:07 PM  
The brush, cream and instructions aren't the problem. They're the same things anyone who performs a proper wet shave with a straight razor uses.
The object of this thing is, apparently, to get a perfect shave every time with a brand new perfectly honed and sanitized razor. The guys who use straight razors maybe don't hone or sharpen them every single time, and doing so takes time that this device would save.

This kit is the sort of thing you'd expect to find in the Nieman Marcus Christmas Catalog. It's not for the hoi polloi like us.
 
2014-01-09 05:15:26 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: I stopped shaving completly about a decade ago and sport a lovely bigole gnarly beard for my troubles.

Of course I work in a brewery, so my beard is actually practical for my profesion.

For facial hair in someones bottle of suds?

but, that's not why I'm responding in this thread. I meen more to speak about the guy decision to use indieagogo over kickstarter.

as I understand it, and please correct me if I am wrong folks... Indieagogo alows you to keep the funds donated to your project, where as with kickstarter, if you don't make your goal then no money changes hands.

like I said, I have no need for the mans product. but its looking to be a shaving geek thread. I can also appreciate that. If I ever take up that bizarre habit again I intend to go with the whole straight razor ritual
 
2014-01-09 05:19:13 PM  

Kanemano: If you know how to use it this is the last razor you will ever buy
[tracemypreps.files.wordpress.com image 850x565]

and it don't cost no $500


Oddly enough, if you don't know how to use it, it will also be the last razor you will ever buy.
 
2014-01-09 05:27:47 PM  
My stand, which I built (picture is a couple of years old).

I have a few more brushes and razors since then. (and soaps,etc.)

But overall, since I discovered DE shaving, I will never touch a cartridge razor again (nor an electric).


i478.photobucket.com

Also uses a shavette to do the big jobs when I haven't shaved in over a week.

My instrument of choice, a Parker 96R.

/p-p-p-p-p-power!
 
2014-01-09 05:31:41 PM  
I should have added...

500$???

Everything I have spent on my gear, (stand, razors, soaps, brushes, and lots of blades) would barely reach... hmm... 150$?

And I have enough blades, even with all those I gave away, to last me years...

At about 20$ for a pack of 100 blades that will last me a few years... well, 500$ is closer to what one spends if buying cartridges and electrics (like I did for many years).

No longer...
 
2014-01-09 05:40:05 PM  
Its all fine until he's gotta lift the sack to do the taint.
 
2014-01-09 05:52:55 PM  
$500 is enough to buy me about 50 years' worth of my preferred double-edge blades at current prices.  I think I'll pass on this one.

/Gillette Bleue Extra, which are basically the same as Astra and every other blade P&G makes in its St. Petersburg factory
//would like to try straight razor shaving eventually, though
 
2014-01-09 07:47:23 PM  
tripleseven:

Of course I work in a brewery, so my beard is actually practical for my profesion. For facial hair in someones bottle of suds?

Of course! how else do you think we get all those funky Belgian styled ales so funky?

really, almost everyone that works in craft beer has a beard.. and we all just let our beards soak in the stuff. $10  a six pack? sure.. we COULD sell the stuff for $4, but the other $6 is the up-charge we impose on YOU, the consumer, for the privilege of sucking on our beard juice!


:D

Dude... the place is 40f degrees in the summer, and colder in the winter... the beard is insulation from the cold ;)

I keep mine braided and netted on the job.
 
2014-01-09 10:24:35 PM  
I started DE shaving after college with a vintage Gillette adjustable safety razor I picked up for a couple dollars on ebay. It served me well but was heavy and pretty tame, even on its most aggressive setting. I did a little research and stumbled on this Lord razor, proudly made in Egypt.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004N77JVY Great reviews and $11 so I figured I'd give it a shot and if I didn't like it I'd just pick up one of those fancy modern Merkurs. It was amazing. It's aluminum so very light and has a long skinny handle and a moderately aggressive blade angle. I use Feather blades although you probably want to start out on a different brand if you are just learning. Feathers are super sharp (some crazy Japanese scalpel company makes them) and I cut the crap out of my face until I got used to them. I recommend Derby blades to learn on, they're cheaper than the Feathers and while not as sharp, they are still a quality blade. After a month or two when you have the muscle memory you can switch if you like. I usually shave by feel in the shower now. Still haven't bothered with the shave soap and badger brush. I just use a nice gel. I do keep a few cheap two blade disposables (the Schick ones are decent) around for the occasional hard to get spot or when traveling.
 
2014-01-09 11:48:58 PM  

Robo Beat: /Gillette Bleue Extra, which are basically the same as Astra and every other blade P&G makes in its St. Petersburg factory


If that's the case, wouldn't you just buy the Astra's for $0.10, instead of $0.30-$0.40 Gilettes? I'm not snarking, I'm new to B&B and DE shaving as I said above, but if blades were equal I'd go for the cheaper ones!
 
2014-01-10 01:39:26 AM  
Wanna try DE some day. Locked myself into this cartridge system by getting them in bulk, cheap:
buyamericanchallenge.files.wordpress.com
But after that, who knows?
 
2014-01-10 10:04:21 AM  

Gig103: Robo Beat: /Gillette Bleue Extra, which are basically the same as Astra and every other blade P&G makes in its St. Petersburg factory

If that's the case, wouldn't you just buy the Astra's for $0.10, instead of $0.30-$0.40 Gilettes? I'm not snarking, I'm new to B&B and DE shaving as I said above, but if blades were equal I'd go for the cheaper ones!


I probably could, but I can grab a 10-pack of GBEs for about 1.75€ at pretty much any grocery store in the city (including the one across the street from my apartment and the one in my office building), whereas I'd have to mail-order a 100-pack of the Astras and pay more than the differnece postage.  The difference in price is theoretically there, just not worth the effort.

There's a store in the 9th Arrondissement that imports a bunch of other brands of blades, and I like to stop by every so often so I can switch it up every now and then with regards to blade and soap selection.
 
2014-01-10 04:53:58 PM  

nw_inferno: I recommend Derby blades to learn on


Ack... hell no..

Derby, the only blade (which came with one of my razors) that I threw out halfway in a shave as I could feel it ripping my face apart.

Astra Super Platinum are excellent, Sharks, Crystal (Personna) are so much better blades.

Only a few people have mentioned that they like Derby, and I understand that everyone's face handles different blades differently, but Derby are not to be recommended... they can be tried, mentioned, told to be given a try to see for yourself, and if they work for you, fine, but never ever recommend them.

That's like recommending using a sharpen stone over a proper straight blade.
 
2014-01-10 05:30:27 PM  
imfallen_angel:

Ack... hell no..

Derby, the only blade (which came with one of my razors) that I threw out halfway in a shave as I could feel it ripping my face apart.

Astra Super Platinum are excellent, Sharks, Crystal (Personna) are so much better blades.

Only a few people have mentioned that they like Derby, and I understand that everyone's face handles different blades differently, but Derby are not to be recommended... they can be tried, mentioned, told to be given a try to see for yourself, and if they work for you, fine, but never ever recommend them.

That's like recommending using a sharpen stone over a proper straight blade.


Hmm, I never realized that. I was under the impression that Derbies were midgrade blades. When I was first starting out, I got the sample pack from one of those shaving sites and vaguely remember hating the Astras and most of the others (I don't remember the other brands). Most of them felt like I was shaving with a serrated kitchen knife, whereas the Derbies were smooth just nowhere near as sharp as the Feathers. I guess it really is true that everybody's facial hair is different.
/mine is like wire and utterly destroys blades, I swap in a new Feather about once a week
//I've gone a month a few times when I ran out of blades but could definitely notice the difference
///The final slashy is for finishing with an alum block
 
2014-01-10 06:01:01 PM  

nw_inferno: imfallen_angel:

Ack... hell no..

Derby, the only blade (which came with one of my razors) that I threw out halfway in a shave as I could feel it ripping my face apart.

Astra Super Platinum are excellent, Sharks, Crystal (Personna) are so much better blades.

Only a few people have mentioned that they like Derby, and I understand that everyone's face handles different blades differently, but Derby are not to be recommended... they can be tried, mentioned, told to be given a try to see for yourself, and if they work for you, fine, but never ever recommend them.

That's like recommending using a sharpen stone over a proper straight blade.

Hmm, I never realized that. I was under the impression that Derbies were midgrade blades. When I was first starting out, I got the sample pack from one of those shaving sites and vaguely remember hating the Astras and most of the others (I don't remember the other brands). Most of them felt like I was shaving with a serrated kitchen knife, whereas the Derbies were smooth just nowhere near as sharp as the Feathers. I guess it really is true that everybody's facial hair is different.
/mine is like wire and utterly destroys blades, I swap in a new Feather about once a week
//I've gone a month a few times when I ran out of blades but could definitely notice the difference
///The final slashy is for finishing with an alum block


Well, it really is an "art" to get into DE, and most times, beginners make the mistake of switching back and forth between blades instead of learning the basics.

And of course, every face reacts differently to the kit used, be it the soap, brush, blade used, razor, etc.

Most times, the biggest mistakes for beginners are angle and the pressure, as most have to unlearn using the weed-whackers that cartridges are.  And I'd say that the blades like the Derbies do appear to work better for many that apply too much pressure, it's more forgiving in that sense.

Another issue is taht many beginners also do not understand the importance of soaking the face and leaving it to soften long enough.  If a blade tugs, then either the blade is bad or your hairs haven't soaked and soften enough.  I usually shave after a shower, and if not, I usually lather up with a very  wet and as hot as I can get it lather (but not runny) and leave it for a couple of minutes while I do other things.

My Derby experience was unbelievable tugging right away... flipped to another blade and right away the other blade was like hot knife through melted butter.

I've tried many blades, but strangely enough, I've never bothered with Feathers, probably simply because at some point I found that I was doing great with those I already have and had enough of a stock to last a few years.

I have to admit that now, I tend to look forward when during my rotation between the brands of blades I have, I always look forward to the Astra Super Platinum..

As you mentioned Astra, please know that the plain Astra and the SP are very different beasts.  The SP is considered as one of the better blades, close to the Feather in terms of their sharpness.
 
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