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(CNN)   Toddler from expletive filled video removed from the home. When asked to comment, the boy replied "I do believe this is a travesty. In due time, the truth will come out, and my loving family will be absolved of any wrong doing." (paraphrased)   (cnn.com) divider line 244
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2014-01-09 09:35:18 AM
Or to quote him verbatim:

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-09 09:43:00 AM
The adults laugh and prompt him to repeat other crudities.

Mmmm... crudites

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-09 10:02:45 AM
Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.
 
2014-01-09 10:26:30 AM

Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.


I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing.
 
2014-01-09 10:38:37 AM
The joint investigation found safety concerns, the statement said.

Of course they did. I mean look at that fallen chair. That could kill somebody if they tripped on it!
 
2014-01-09 11:17:34 AM

digitalrain: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing.


I don't see where anyone has claimed that it is.
 
2014-01-09 11:19:46 AM

Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.


While I agreee that the world's moral and ethical compasses lean more to the prudish side, the parents were repeatedly calling their child a pussy biatch, laughing in his face, and encouraging him to join a gang.  I think the face that that is OK to you speaks more about your moral compass than the world's.
 
2014-01-09 11:33:19 AM
All cultures are equal.
 
2014-01-09 11:33:30 AM

Lor M. Ipsum: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

While I agreee that the world's moral and ethical compasses lean more to the prudish side, the parents were repeatedly calling their child a pussy biatch, laughing in his face, and encouraging him to join a gang.  I think the face that that is OK to you speaks more about your moral compass than the world's.


I never said that it's okay...let me try this again. The blowback seems disproportionate. The reactions seem to have more in common with hysteria than with a reasonable, effective response.

While I think the behaviour that led to this is certainly questionable, it just doesn't seem to be "take the children away" material unless something else was going on.

What's happening seems like a shame reaction.

Or, I am completely misreading it...which could be.
 
2014-01-09 11:34:29 AM
Did the "Sparkling Wiggles" girl get taken into custody? Just wondering.
 
2014-01-09 11:34:41 AM
THANKS OMAHA.
 
2014-01-09 11:34:54 AM
Omaha, Nebraska: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
 
2014-01-09 11:35:26 AM
But Honey Boo Boo is a top ranked television show.
 
2014-01-09 11:35:50 AM

Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.


It's hard to imagine how someone like this could find difficulty fitting into the professional world. The System must be trying to keep them down or exclude them or something. Definitely everyone else's fault.
 
2014-01-09 11:35:54 AM
So they took him into custody?

Well it's just another extension of his training for his future.
 
2014-01-09 11:36:39 AM

AgentPothead: But Honey Boo Boo is a top ranked television show.


data3.whicdn.com
 
2014-01-09 11:37:37 AM
I hate to say it but you should have every right to teach your kid to curse like a sailor.
 
2014-01-09 11:38:35 AM

ChipNASA: So they took him into custody?

Well it's just another extension of his training for his future.


Little biatch best learn to keep his mouth shut. No snitchin'
 
2014-01-09 11:39:37 AM

ChipNASA: AgentPothead: But Honey Boo Boo is a top ranked television show.

[data3.whicdn.com image 500x280]


No sir... I think it's bad luck just seeing something like that.
 
2014-01-09 11:39:39 AM
The proud mother
i26.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-09 11:39:43 AM
digitalrain [TotalFark]

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing.
I don't think anyone is making that argument.

I think the point is sending armed gunmen to abduct said child is exponentially worse.

It's not the state's farking business.

// correction, it shouldn't be the state's farking business.
 
2014-01-09 11:40:03 AM
Is there any concern at all about the repeated use of the N word?
 
2014-01-09 11:40:04 AM

Barfmaker: I never said that it's okay...let me try this again. The blowback seems disproportionate. The reactions seem to have more in common with hysteria than with a reasonable, effective response.

While I think the behaviour that led to this is certainly questionable, it just doesn't seem to be "take the children away" material unless something else was going on.


Uhh...if they were already doing that, what praytell do you think would be a better alternative?
 
2014-01-09 11:40:41 AM
So sad. What a bunch of responsible, upstanding citizens this kid has around him.
 
2014-01-09 11:40:45 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I hate to say it but you should have every right to teach your kid to curse like a sailor.


Just remember to put a quarter in the swear jar.

i171.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-09 11:40:56 AM

ChipNASA: AgentPothead: But Honey Boo Boo is a top ranked television show.

[data3.whicdn.com image 500x280]


That's just terrifyingly hypnotic.
 
2014-01-09 11:41:21 AM

AgentPothead: But Honey Boo Boo is a top ranked television show.


Less swearing so people ignore the child abuse.


If only SOMEONE in the meia had suggested this is the road we would be on.

estrip.org

Oh yeah...
 
2014-01-09 11:41:28 AM

Barfmaker: Lor M. Ipsum: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

While I agreee that the world's moral and ethical compasses lean more to the prudish side, the parents were repeatedly calling their child a pussy biatch, laughing in his face, and encouraging him to join a gang.  I think the face that that is OK to you speaks more about your moral compass than the world's.

I never said that it's okay...let me try this again. The blowback seems disproportionate. The reactions seem to have more in common with hysteria than with a reasonable, effective response.

While I think the behaviour that led to this is certainly questionable, it just doesn't seem to be "take the children away" material unless something else was going on.

What's happening seems like a shame reaction.

Or, I am completely misreading it...which could be.


I am going to guess that they investigated and found further questionable parenting techniques, other than teaching the kid to throw things and yell expletives while running around in a diaper.  Unless he learned it from Daddy with the only difference is daddy did it in his underwear holding a 40.

I do not care what color the child is, it should be given a chance in an environment where expletives are not learned before ABCs.
 
2014-01-09 11:44:12 AM
 
2014-01-09 11:44:51 AM
The standard where I live is imminent risk of harm to the child. Without knowing more than just what's on the video, I see no argument I can make to demonstrate risk of harm to remove the child. There's a lot we don't know that could lead family services stepping in, but from the video itself, I see nothing that meets that standard. That being said, it's pretty deplorable. There's a world of difference between a baby hearing their dad exclaim "Shiat!" after hitting his thumb with a hammer, and repeating it, and teaching a child that this is acceptable behavior.

Ultimately, this: 

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I hate to say it but you should have every right to teach your kid to curse like a sailor.

 
2014-01-09 11:45:10 AM
50 years ago this could have been obama.
 
2014-01-09 11:46:11 AM

Lor M. Ipsum: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

While I agreee that the world's moral and ethical compasses lean more to the prudish side, the parents were repeatedly calling their child a pussy biatch, laughing in his face, and encouraging him to join a gang.  I think the face that that is OK to you speaks more about your moral compass than the world's.



How is it any worse than klan kids or parents raising their kids in crazy-ass Bible-thumper households?

Short of physical abuse, neglect or extreme emotionally-scarring torment, do parents have a right to raise their kids as they see fit, or not?

I don't agree with this, but I don't agree with a lot of shiat parents do to their kids... should they all have their children removed?
 
2014-01-09 11:47:00 AM

OnlyM3: digitalrain [TotalFark]

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing. I don't think anyone is making that argument.

I think the point is sending armed gunmen to abduct said child is exponentially worse.

It's not the state's farking business.

// correction, it shouldn't be the state's farking business.


As soon as he gets old enough to join a gang, and knock over the corner market. Then it's the state's farking business.
Pretty sure that's where this toddler is headed.
 
2014-01-09 11:47:33 AM
It takes a village to raise an idiot .
 
2014-01-09 11:48:33 AM
www.imbringingbloggingback.com
 
2014-01-09 11:48:41 AM

BigNumber12: All cultures are equal.


Disagrees...
~s.wsj.net
 
2014-01-09 11:49:12 AM
So...does this mean that authorities are going to remove the children of Westboro Baptist Church members? Because it's hard to imagine an example of someone teaching their kids more awful and reprehensible things than those people do.
 
2014-01-09 11:50:27 AM

technicolor-misfit: Lor M. Ipsum: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

While I agreee that the world's moral and ethical compasses lean more to the prudish side, the parents were repeatedly calling their child a pussy biatch, laughing in his face, and encouraging him to join a gang.  I think the face that that is OK to you speaks more about your moral compass than the world's.


How is it any worse than klan kids or parents raising their kids in crazy-ass Bible-thumper households?

Short of physical abuse, neglect or extreme emotionally-scarring torment, do parents have a right to raise their kids as they see fit, or not?

I don't agree with this, but I don't agree with a lot of shiat parents do to their kids... should they all have their children removed?


Yes
 
2014-01-09 11:50:34 AM
This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.
 
2014-01-09 11:50:35 AM

Barfmaker: Lor M. Ipsum: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

While I agreee that the world's moral and ethical compasses lean more to the prudish side, the parents were repeatedly calling their child a pussy biatch, laughing in his face, and encouraging him to join a gang.  I think the face that that is OK to you speaks more about your moral compass than the world's.

I never said that it's okay...let me try this again. The blowback seems disproportionate. The reactions seem to have more in common with hysteria than with a reasonable, effective response.

While I think the behaviour that led to this is certainly questionable, it just doesn't seem to be "take the children away" material unless something else was going on.

What's happening seems like a shame reaction.

Or, I am completely misreading it...which could be.


Well, it could be that the state agency did its due diligence and found evidence of negligence on the part of the household against the child and proceeded with legal action to remove the child from the home. Meanwhile the internet and media have latched on to the "cursing toddler" aspect of the story because it's salacious and that's all we are hearing about, so it just seems like it's an over-reaction. Or it's a legitimate over-reaction.
 
2014-01-09 11:50:51 AM

Stone Meadow: BigNumber12: All cultures are equal.

Disagrees...
~[s.wsj.net image 553x369]


Have you seen the aristocrats?

that picture screams csmf
 
2014-01-09 11:51:07 AM
As a parent I... just do not know what to say.

I am not really shocked by this, you see it everyday.

I guess that I am just saddened by the fact that this kid is potentially destroyed before he even gets started.

It is more than just the swearing, it is the talking back, teaching him it is ok, and a whole host of other things..
 
2014-01-09 11:51:49 AM

crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.


Think of it as taking the parents away from the kid.
 
2014-01-09 11:52:07 AM
Why hasn't CPS stepped in when the parents of this kid let him star in an R-rated movie

i500.listal.com

with such quotes as:
My language is English and this mother farker tried to grab my junk.
fark you, Miss Daisy.
Partner in crime. You're my PIC. Just don't cock-block me tonight.


Or this girl:
screencrave.com

with such quotes as:
Okay you coonts... Let's see what you can do now!
I'm just farking with you Daddy! Look, I'd love a Benchmade model 42 butterfly knife.
Show's over, motherfarkers.
 
2014-01-09 11:52:31 AM
What does his dad think about all this?
 
2014-01-09 11:53:04 AM

crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.


I agree.  My guess is that this brought attention to the things that were good reasons to remove the kids.
 
2014-01-09 11:53:23 AM

theflatline: I do not care what color the child is, it should be given a chance in an environment where expletives are not learned before ABCs.



So, it's okay for me to teach my kids that gays are bad and sinful and have an evil agenda to destroy marriage... or that science is of the devil and the world is only 6000 years old... as long as I teach them to say 'poo' instead of 'shiat' when referring to feces?
 
2014-01-09 11:53:28 AM

technicolor-misfit: How is it any worse than klan kids or parents raising their kids in crazy-ass Bible-thumper households?


Klan kids?  It's the same level, and kids have been taken away from their parents for it.

Bible thumpers?  Depends.  Scrub your kid down with bleach and ammonia to get the devil's filth off of him?  Yeah, take the kids away.  Go to church 3 times per week and have bible study every Saturday?  Meh, not really an issue.
 
2014-01-09 11:54:14 AM

digitalrain: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing.


That's a skill which will come in handy later on in life.
 
2014-01-09 11:54:15 AM
I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb
 
2014-01-09 11:54:23 AM
When I was a kid, the family next door to my best friends had a little kid named "Kevvie" (presumably short for Kevin) who apparently knew only three words: "butthole" (pronounced "bu-ho"), "shut" (pronounced "suh"), and "up" (pronounced as it should be). He could string these into a sort of rudimentary imperative sentence: "Suh up, bu-ho!"

Little Kevvie really liked that sentence, because as far as we could tell he'd just stand out in the back yard and yell that over and over and over until an adult dragged him back inside. We found it endlessly entertaining, and could never figure out at whom it was directed (a large vine-covered fence separating the yards): us? His parents? Siblings? Sometimes when he'd really get going, he'd draw out that last syllable: "Suh up, bu...hoooOOOOOOOOOO!" Always wondered what his home life was like that this was the thing he'd latched onto. The family moved and alas I never got to find out what happened to Little Kevvie.
 
2014-01-09 11:55:00 AM

cgraves67: Well, it could be that the state agency did its due diligence and found evidence of negligence on the part of the household against the child and proceeded with legal action to remove the child from the home. Meanwhile the internet and media have latched on to the "cursing toddler" aspect of the story because it's salacious and that's all we are hearing about, so it just seems like it's an over-reaction. Or it's a legitimate over-reaction.


This is almost certainly the case. Were I the prosecutor having to make the argument for removal, I would absolutely bring up the video, but I feel confident that there was something else in the background that prompted the action. All we see, and all we can see, is the video. It shows terrible parenting, but we're assuming the people in the video are the kids parents, they could be older brothers or uncles. Either way, I don't think this video is enough for action, and I couldn't see a judge accepting the video as a convincing argument on its own.
 
2014-01-09 11:56:31 AM
I will say that the people in this video, and soon their kid, always seem to be on every city bus I take on the way home from work.
 
2014-01-09 11:56:55 AM
CPS is basically a HOA
 
2014-01-09 11:56:56 AM

Piizzadude: As a parent I... just do not know what to say.

I am not really shocked by this, you see it everyday.

I guess that I am just saddened by the fact that this kid is potentially destroyed before he even gets started.

It is more than just the swearing, it is the talking back, teaching him it is ok, and a whole host of other things..


I spent a couple years teaching at a school that allowed me to have a chunk of my student loans forgiven.  It was common for 6th graders to openly threaten teachers, confront teachers, use racial slurs, etc.  Kids these days, I tells ya...
 
2014-01-09 11:57:26 AM
Why are words about human sexuality considered explict?  I'm sorry your phoney religous morality has brainwashed you but language is beautiful even when cruel, like nature.
 
2014-01-09 11:58:48 AM
Wow just wow.
 
2014-01-09 11:59:13 AM

flynn80: Why are words about human sexuality considered explict?  I'm sorry your phoney religous morality has brainwashed you but language is beautiful even when cruel, like nature.


I'm don't think religious morality is the issue here...
 
2014-01-09 11:59:28 AM
Well at least it was a two parent household.
 
2014-01-09 11:59:29 AM

Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.


That's because you have an IQ of 85. Congrats son. You'll never earn more than minimum wage.
 
2014-01-09 11:59:30 AM

flynn80: Why are words about human sexuality considered explict?


I see you've been properly vaccinated against context.
 
2014-01-09 11:59:47 AM
I'm more upset the camera was held vertically.

/feels bad for the kid
 
2014-01-09 12:00:11 PM
Just another day on the Internet -- until the police union in Omaha, Nebraska, posted the clip on its website to highlight what it called the "cycle of violence and thuggery" the community faces.

Well I'm certainly glad this dangerous criminal is in custody. I hope they tased him and gave him a few whacks with the billy club before they took him in.
 
2014-01-09 12:00:24 PM

scottydoesntknow: Why hasn't CPS stepped in when the parents of this kid let him star in an R-rated movie

[i500.listal.com image 500x250]

with such quotes as:
My language is English and this mother farker tried to grab my junk.
fark you, Miss Daisy.
Partner in crime. You're my PIC. Just don't cock-block me tonight.

Or this girl:
[screencrave.com image 570x303]

with such quotes as:
Okay you coonts... Let's see what you can do now!
I'm just farking with you Daddy! Look, I'd love a Benchmade model 42 butterfly knife.
Show's over, motherfarkers.


I'd give almost anything to go back in time and raise a child to be a little hit-girl.  well, my kids are all boys so I guess it'd be hit-kid or some shiat but still.

/Hit-Girl rules
 
2014-01-09 12:00:30 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: So...does this mean that authorities are going to remove the children of Westboro Baptist Church members? Because it's hard to imagine an example of someone teaching their kids more awful and reprehensible things than those people do.


Teaching your kids to be Yankees fans?

dontjustlike.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-09 12:00:53 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The adults laugh and prompt him to repeat other crudities.

Mmmm... crudites

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x654]


What kind of a bullshiat dip is that with those crudites? it looks like pureed tomatoes and old mayo.
 
2014-01-09 12:02:02 PM
Abe Vigoda's Ghost
2014-01-09 11:47:00 AM


OnlyM3: digitalrain [TotalFark]

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing. I don't think anyone is making that argument.

I think the point is sending armed gunmen to abduct said child is exponentially worse.

It's not the state's farking business.

// correction, it shouldn't be the state's farking business.

As soon as he gets old enough to join a gang, and knock over the corner market. Then it's the state's farking business.
Pretty sure that's where this toddler is headed.

About 30% of americans are being arrested by the age of 23. Using your post, the state should be raising 1/3 of the population.
 
2014-01-09 12:02:33 PM

Barfmaker: While I think the behaviour that led to this is certainly questionable, it just doesn't seem to be "take the children away" material unless something else was going on.


I completely agree with you.  Bad parenting isn't against the law, nor should it be.  This is clearly bad parenting but it does not violate any law.

That said, it seems something else was going on.  I searched around for other articles and they all had a version of "The joint investigation found safety concerns" in it.

This behavior warranted child welfare people to knock on their door.  I'm okay with that.  When they got there, they found other problems that warranted taking the children away.
 
2014-01-09 12:03:16 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: The Dog Ate My Homework: So...does this mean that authorities are going to remove the children of Westboro Baptist Church members? Because it's hard to imagine an example of someone teaching their kids more awful and reprehensible things than those people do.

Teaching your kids to be Yankees fans?

[dontjustlike.files.wordpress.com image 300x455]


The kid in the middle looks non to happy about it!
 
2014-01-09 12:03:20 PM

please: Piizzadude: As a parent I... just do not know what to say.

I am not really shocked by this, you see it everyday.

I guess that I am just saddened by the fact that this kid is potentially destroyed before he even gets started.

It is more than just the swearing, it is the talking back, teaching him it is ok, and a whole host of other things..

I spent a couple years teaching at a school that allowed me to have a chunk of my student loans forgiven.  It was common for 6th graders to openly threaten teachers, confront teachers, use racial slurs, etc.  Kids these days, I tells ya...


and that is where this kid is gonna be in Kindergarten. Not to mention the 13 YO dropout doing a drive by.
 
2014-01-09 12:03:27 PM
Here's what may have/probably happened:

Video->Posting on Internet->Re-posting by police->Concerned Citizen calls police->Police pass complain to Social Services->Social Services is reasonably suspicious abuse may be occurring based upon video, and investigates->Social Services goes to home, finds things that are of imminent danger and harm to children->Children are removed from home.

What probably didn't happen:

Video->Posting on Internet->Nazi's break down doors and point guns at everyone and steal the children->Police claim victory and shag the dead hookers they keep in evidence locker along with the blow.

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world. What do you think was found in the house when Social Services visited that they were hiding?
 
2014-01-09 12:04:24 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: When I was a kid, the family next door to my best friends had a little kid named "Kevvie" (presumably short for Kevin) who apparently knew only three words: "butthole" (pronounced "bu-ho"), "shut" (pronounced "suh"), and "up" (pronounced as it should be). He could string these into a sort of rudimentary imperative sentence: "Suh up, bu-ho!"

Little Kevvie really liked that sentence, because as far as we could tell he'd just stand out in the back yard and yell that over and over and over until an adult dragged him back inside. We found it endlessly entertaining, and could never figure out at whom it was directed (a large vine-covered fence separating the yards): us? His parents? Siblings? Sometimes when he'd really get going, he'd draw out that last syllable: "Suh up, bu...hoooOOOOOOOOOO!" Always wondered what his home life was like that this was the thing he'd latched onto. The family moved and alas I never got to find out what happened to Little Kevvie.


That was merely a juvenile fixation; under Time's gentle tutelage, I turned out quite well. Thank you for your concern!
 
2014-01-09 12:05:06 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The adults laugh and prompt him to repeat other crudities.

Mmmm... crudites

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x654]



Came for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2014-01-09 12:05:28 PM

Witty Comment: Here's what may have/probably happened:

Video->Posting on Internet->Re-posting by police->Concerned Citizen calls police->Police pass complain to Social Services->Social Services is reasonably suspicious abuse may be occurring based upon video, and investigates->Social Services goes to home, finds things that are of imminent danger and harm to children->Children are removed from home.

What probably didn't happen:

Video->Posting on Internet->Nazi's break down doors and point guns at everyone and steal the children->Police claim victory and shag the dead hookers they keep in evidence locker along with the blow.

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world. What do you think was found in the house when Social Services visited that they were hiding?


SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

YOU Could stop all the whagrbabal... actually nevermind. You will stop nothing, since the people who want to complain won;t use logic and reason, just feelings. You can;t beat those.
 
2014-01-09 12:06:06 PM
Video isn't enough to take a kid away.

Enough to have CPS up that families ass? Yep.
 
2014-01-09 12:06:14 PM

digitalrain: I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing.


http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/74/the-landlord-from-will-ferrell-a nd -adam-ghost-panther-mckay

Outrage
 
2014-01-09 12:06:32 PM

WTP 2: 50 years ago this could have been obama.


Not a chance. He was raised by old creepy ass crackers. The NAACP should hav removed Barry from the home the first time they put mayonaise on his sammich
 
2014-01-09 12:06:39 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: AgentPothead: But Honey Boo Boo is a top ranked television show.

Less swearing so people ignore the child abuse.
If only SOMEONE in the meia had suggested this is the road we would be on.[estrip.org image 480x360]Oh yeah...


So, blame Canada, then?
 
2014-01-09 12:06:58 PM
This explains so, so much.
 
2014-01-09 12:08:01 PM

crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.


The creator of the video, supposedly the uncle of the toddler, cleared it all up with a facebook message yesterday.

Man fark all of yall because the matter of the fact is you act like we was giving that little boy weed or we have a gun in his hand or something biatch no! but I put your ass in an orphanage don't ever talk on my farkin cousin move around with that shiat I don't give a fark about you , the police or these motherfarkers leaving comments on this motherfarker so therefore all yall can suck my dick nubian!

I am not sure it would be appropriate for me to move into an orphanage, so we should drop this before he puts me in one.
 
2014-01-09 12:08:40 PM

Witty Comment: Here's what may have/probably happened:

Video->Posting on Internet->Re-posting by police->Concerned Citizen calls police->Police pass complain to Social Services->Social Services is reasonably suspicious abuse may be occurring based upon video, and investigates->Social Services goes to home, finds things that are of imminent danger and harm to children->Children are removed from home.


I'm willing to bet that this is exactly what happened.
If a CPS worked called my office and said "We have this video of a child using bad words and we'd like an emergency order removing the child from the custody of the parents." I would tell them that no magistrate or judge is going to sign off on that. If CPS went to the house based on the video and saw that the house was filthy or that the child was left home alone or that drugs were open and visible in the house, that's enough.
The video is enough to get an investigation, but not enough for a removal.
 
2014-01-09 12:09:51 PM
If Obama had a son, he would probably be talking like that kid.
 
2014-01-09 12:10:57 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Witty Comment: Here's what may have/probably happened:

Video->Posting on Internet->Re-posting by police->Concerned Citizen calls police->Police pass complain to Social Services->Social Services is reasonably suspicious abuse may be occurring based upon video, and investigates->Social Services goes to home, finds things that are of imminent danger and harm to children->Children are removed from home.

What probably didn't happen:

Video->Posting on Internet->Nazi's break down doors and point guns at everyone and steal the children->Police claim victory and shag the dead hookers they keep in evidence locker along with the blow.

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world. What do you think was found in the house when Social Services visited that they were hiding?

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

YOU Could stop all the whagrbabal... actually nevermind. You will stop nothing, since the people who want to complain won;t use logic and reason, just feelings. You can;t beat those.


I was actually debating with myself whether or not to end with some slashies like:

/whoa, whoa, whoa. My bad.
//I'll keep the logic and reasoning out of Fark.
///Carry on, gentlemen.

I'm going to really enjoy when someone calls me a jack-booted thug fellating cop apologist. When I said I'm as big a hater as anyone? Yeah, my house was full-on-raided by 6 officers in June. Believe me, I don't care too much for the way they spend their time, but I would say if the evidence was there this was certainly a proper use of it.
 
2014-01-09 12:11:19 PM
 
2014-01-09 12:11:41 PM

crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.


And it's NOT the reason CPS took the kids. The kids were taken because of safety concerns unrelated to the video.

You and everyone else repeating that the kid was taken because of the video have some serious reading comprehension problems.
 
2014-01-09 12:11:59 PM
I would have taken the camera away instead of the kid. And I would have used the chair as firewood.
 
2014-01-09 12:12:27 PM

Ivandrago: Witty Comment: Here's what may have/probably happened:

Video->Posting on Internet->Re-posting by police->Concerned Citizen calls police->Police pass complain to Social Services->Social Services is reasonably suspicious abuse may be occurring based upon video, and investigates->Social Services goes to home, finds things that are of imminent danger and harm to children->Children are removed from home.

I'm willing to bet that this is exactly what happened.
If a CPS worked called my office and said "We have this video of a child using bad words and we'd like an emergency order removing the child from the custody of the parents." I would tell them that no magistrate or judge is going to sign off on that. If CPS went to the house based on the video and saw that the house was filthy or that the child was left home alone or that drugs were open and visible in the house, that's enough.
The video is enough to get an investigation, but not enough for a removal.


Guns and Drugs and signs of Gang and Criminal Activity.

Anyone want to bet me on that??
 
2014-01-09 12:12:49 PM

lennavan: Barfmaker: While I think the behaviour that led to this is certainly questionable, it just doesn't seem to be "take the children away" material unless something else was going on.

I completely agree with you.  Bad parenting isn't against the law, nor should it be.  This is clearly bad parenting but it does not violate any law.

That said, it seems something else was going on.  I searched around for other articles and they all had a version of "The joint investigation found safety concerns" in it.

This behavior warranted child welfare people to knock on their door.  I'm okay with that.  When they got there, they found other problems that warranted taking the children away.


Using the logic of most of today's society...  "not wearing your seatbelt causes my insurance rates to go up" and the like...   "not raising your kid right causes us to have to deal with his crime later on"...    So the onslaught of the nanny state will roll onwards...
 
2014-01-09 12:14:15 PM
Does the Omaha PD regularly post videos of what it believes to be child abuse, or is it only when the defendants are blah?
 
2014-01-09 12:14:20 PM

Ivandrago: Witty Comment: Here's what may have/probably happened:

Video->Posting on Internet->Re-posting by police->Concerned Citizen calls police->Police pass complain to Social Services->Social Services is reasonably suspicious abuse may be occurring based upon video, and investigates->Social Services goes to home, finds things that are of imminent danger and harm to children->Children are removed from home.

I'm willing to bet that this is exactly what happened.
If a CPS worked called my office and said "We have this video of a child using bad words and we'd like an emergency order removing the child from the custody of the parents." I would tell them that no magistrate or judge is going to sign off on that. If CPS went to the house based on the video and saw that the house was filthy or that the child was left home alone or that drugs were open and visible in the house, that's enough.
The video is enough to get an investigation, but not enough for a removal.


Exactly my point. Most people are absolute idiots. These are the same people that accuse others of being "pearl clutchers" when it is, in fact, THEY who are clutching the pearls in manufactured outrage. Seriously, guys... "think of the children" applies here.
 
2014-01-09 12:18:22 PM

GUYS WAIT

I have an idea.

Let's post picture and analogies of actors and actresses that are children because these two situations are intellectually comparable. That will make sure everyone knows how STUPID it is to have removed the kids from their homes and DERRRRRPHURRPADERP
 
2014-01-09 12:18:28 PM
In this thread now:  "State had no reason!  Fascism!  Prudes!  Parent's rights!  Other cultures are worse!"

10 years from now: "That poor child.  Why didn't someone do something?  He never stood a chance.  All the warning signs were there"  after he's doing 15 to life.

Stereotypes aren't prescient unless they are.
 
2014-01-09 12:19:16 PM

JesusJuice: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

And it's NOT the reason CPS took the kids. The kids were taken because of safety concerns unrelated to the video.

You and everyone else repeating that the kid was taken because of the video have some serious reading comprehension problems.


*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."
 
2014-01-09 12:20:27 PM

Bumblefark: JesusJuice: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

And it's NOT the reason CPS took the kids. The kids were taken because of safety concerns unrelated to the video.

You and everyone else repeating that the kid was taken because of the video have some serious reading comprehension problems.

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."


You have personal knowledge of this case? Please enlighten us. I'd hate to think you're just talking out your ass.
 
2014-01-09 12:20:53 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: The Dog Ate My Homework: So...does this mean that authorities are going to remove the children of Westboro Baptist Church members? Because it's hard to imagine an example of someone teaching their kids more awful and reprehensible things than those people do.

Teaching your kids to be Yankees fans?

[dontjustlike.files.wordpress.com image 300x455]


Now we know what this guy looked like as a boy... ;^)

~fc01.deviantart.net
 
2014-01-09 12:21:38 PM
The part that really bothered me was the 'racism' outcry and lawsuits against the union for posting the video. Of all the people involved in the video, the people taping themselves were the only racists I saw (but since they were black, they can't be racist which means i must be one.)
Hell, nowadays you have to make sure the people stealing your car are not black before calling the cops, just to be sure you aren't committing a hate crime by reporting them.
 
2014-01-09 12:22:52 PM
Who's got a goddam light?

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2014-01-09 12:24:12 PM

BigNumber12: All cultures are equal.


I'm partial to yogurt and occasionally cottage cheese.
 
2014-01-09 12:24:29 PM
It's not the language, it's retribution for negative publicity and is probably directed more at the presumed gang affiliation of the parents.
 
2014-01-09 12:24:54 PM

firefly212: Does the Omaha PD regularly post videos of what it believes to be child abuse, or is it only when the defendants are blah?


Except that the kid's uncle was the one who Boobiesed it online. Congrats, it's now public, and you don't get to whine when the police find it.

Funny, how much people looooove using the public internet to spread their bragging far and wide, right up until it comes back to bite them in the ass. Then it's OUTRAGEOUS when other people share their PRIVATE INFORMATION.
 
2014-01-09 12:25:21 PM
Good. I'm sorry but just because there is no physical violence occurring doesn't mean it's not child abuse. Psychological abuse can be just as bad if not worse then getting the crap beat out of you let alone actively encouraging a child to become a criminal. I just hope they got him out of there in time and DON'T put him with another set of assholes within the foster parent/adoption system.

Sadly I don't think the odds are good for this little fella.

And it's so nice the Fark racists get to have their little feeding frenzy for the day. Dicks.
 
2014-01-09 12:25:35 PM

AngryDragon: In this thread now:  "State had no reason!  Fascism!  Prudes!  Parent's rights!  Other cultures are worse!"

10 years from now: "That poor child.  Why didn't someone do something?  He never stood a chance.  All the warning signs were there"  after he's doing 15 to life.

Stereotypes aren't prescient unless they are.


www.secretsofthefed.com
 
2014-01-09 12:25:36 PM

Cletus C.: Is there any concern at all about the repeated use of the N word?


No and you still can't say it, cracker. Sorry that being white is so difficult.
 
2014-01-09 12:26:09 PM

JesusJuice: Bumblefark: JesusJuice: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

And it's NOT the reason CPS took the kids. The kids were taken because of safety concerns unrelated to the video.

You and everyone else repeating that the kid was taken because of the video have some serious reading comprehension problems.

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."

You have personal knowledge of this case? Please enlighten us. I'd hate to think you're just talking out your ass.


You're adorable.
 
2014-01-09 12:27:27 PM

Witty Comment: Here's what may have/probably happened:

Video->Posting on Internet->Re-posting by police->Concerned Citizen calls police->Police pass complain to Social Services->Social Services is reasonably suspicious abuse may be occurring based upon video, and investigates->Social Services goes to home, finds things that are of imminent danger and harm to children->Children are removed from home.

What probably didn't happen:

Video->Posting on Internet->Nazi's break down doors and point guns at everyone and steal the children->Police claim victory and shag the dead hookers they keep in evidence locker along with the blow.

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world. What do you think was found in the house when Social Services visited that they were hiding?


Unpossible.

That would lower the butthurt fountain to unacceptable levels.

I completely agree with you.  No jackbooted thugs rammed the door and took the kid.
 
2014-01-09 12:27:42 PM
Bumblefark:

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."


I have three drawers full of cases where we had to "come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids." And you often don't have to look very hard, because more often than not, something like this is the tip of the iceberg and when CPS gets into that house they find that mom loves to smoke weed or has a lengthy criminal record, or dad has a lengthy criminal record or a history of domestic violence, or this isn't mom's first run-in with CPS and there are already protective orders on this kid.
And then mom, sits at the other table next to her attorney crying that "she just wants her kids back" and dad is next to her with his attorney saying "I'm gonna fight this and stand strong for my kids."
There are hundreds of reasons to remove children from shiatty parents and none of them involve a kid saying bad words.
 
2014-01-09 12:29:36 PM

crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.


Did they claim the video as the only reason? No? Okay, why are you making ignorant comments then?
 
2014-01-09 12:29:37 PM

cgraves67: Well, it could be that the state agency did its due diligence and found evidence of negligence on the part of the household against the child and proceeded with legal action to remove the child from the home. Meanwhile the internet and media have latched on to the "cursing toddler" aspect of the story because it's salacious and that's all we are hearing about, so it just seems like it's an over-reaction. Or it's a legitimate over-reaction.


THIS
 
2014-01-09 12:29:45 PM

Bane of Broone: Sorry that being white is so difficult.


Eh, it's not always so bad...we can't jump, and we have no rhythm, but the police leave us alone, we have decent credit, and we know our fathers.
 
2014-01-09 12:30:15 PM

please: I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb


What's the exact difference between "racially mixed" and "very racially mixed"?
 
2014-01-09 12:31:38 PM

flynn80: Why are words about human sexuality considered explict?  I'm sorry your phoney religous morality has brainwashed you but language is beautiful even when cruel, like nature.



A child in diapers using that language, and you are OK with that?

I think the folks at NAMBLA might be interested in talking to you.  They seem to use a lot of the same "logic" you do.
 
2014-01-09 12:32:29 PM

digitalrain: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing.


They were just toughening him up for pre-school.
 
2014-01-09 12:32:52 PM

Bane of Broone: Cletus C.: Is there any concern at all about the repeated use of the N word?

No and you still can't say it, cracker. Sorry that being white is so difficult.


It's not white people who make black people look bad.
 
2014-01-09 12:33:19 PM

Bane of Broone: Cletus C.: Is there any concern at all about the repeated use of the N word?

No and you still can't say it, cracker. Sorry that being white is so difficult.


Only attractive and successful African Americans can call other attractive and successful African Americans attractive and successful African Americans.

And really, why would you want to say it? The attractive and successful African Americans are obviously attractive and successful African Americans and we all know who they are.

Bane here, for instance, sounds like he is particularly attractive and successful.
 
2014-01-09 12:33:20 PM
A toddler cursing and the adults laughing? Why goodness gracious someone grab the fainting couch while I clutch my pearls.
/Come on toddlers cursing is hilarious and none of the state's farking business.
 
2014-01-09 12:33:46 PM
To be fair, children don't come with instructions.

When my son was in daycare, they had a little 4 year old terror like that show up one day. Mean, violent, abusive, thrown out before the end of day two.
 
2014-01-09 12:34:05 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: but the police leave us alone,


Speak for yourself.
 
2014-01-09 12:35:25 PM

Bumblefark: JesusJuice: Bumblefark: JesusJuice: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

And it's NOT the reason CPS took the kids. The kids were taken because of safety concerns unrelated to the video.

You and everyone else repeating that the kid was taken because of the video have some serious reading comprehension problems.

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."

You have personal knowledge of this case? Please enlighten us. I'd hate to think you're just talking out your ass.

You're adorable.


That's your response..? THAT'S adorable. Instead of doing something intelligent and saying "you know what, you're right. I DON'T have any clue as to what ACTUALLY HAPPENED in the house, and even though at first glance I thought it was just a heavy handed tactic from the government I realize I was mistaken because it's magnitudes more likely that the chain of events wasn't that the police saw a video and simply took the kids."

Dude, if you're going to call anyone "adorable" and try to make them look stupid, you should really do some research into how the system actually works, and not how you perceive it to work. Then, when you DO call someone adorable, it really DOES make them look like a flailing idiot, rather than being an exercise in projection.

Bless your heart. *pats you on the head*

/That's how it's done.
 
2014-01-09 12:35:57 PM

AngryDragon: In this thread now:  "State had no reason!  Fascism!  Prudes!  Parent's rights!  Other cultures are worse!"

10 years from now: "That poor child.  Why didn't someone do something?  He never stood a chance.  All the warning signs were there"  after he's doing 15 to life.


I saw a movie years ago that was even worse than this.  It was over an hour and a half long of kids swearing, using racial slurs, crackin jokes about people having STDs and flipping people off.  Shiat like:

My language is English and this mother farker tried to grab my junk.
Honky wanted a fistful of my balls!
you have crabs
fark you, Miss Daisy.
We are butt suck, chipmunk ass butt! We got ass butt, oh yo ass butt!


One of the kids in the movie is obsessed with breasts too.  I mean this little kid is sayin stuff like:

Damn, she got some boobies on her.
Oh yeah. Sometimes I call myself "The Booby Watcher". I even have my own comic book. "The Adventures of The Booby Watcher".


There's more, a lot more.  What's worse is this kid was actually coached by adults to say all of that.  He had to say those things over and over and over again until the adults were content with the way he said it to make it believable.  It's inexcusable, there isn't a single reason in the entire world that sort of crap needs to be going on, let alone video taped and released to the public, as if it was something to be celebrated.

Anyway, here's a SFW link to a small portion of it:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGYswlbU8w
 
2014-01-09 12:36:20 PM
I would be shocked - SHOCKED - to find out that parents who videotape their cursing toddler (to the amusement and encouragement of the parents/other adults) may not be maintaining an exemplary home environment for said toddler, free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.

SHOCKED, I say ...
 
2014-01-09 12:36:28 PM

Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.


thinkingmomsrevolution.com

 
2014-01-09 12:37:51 PM

A Terrible Human: A toddler cursing and the adults laughing? Why goodness gracious someone grab the fainting couch while I clutch my pearls.
/Come on toddlers cursing is hilarious and none of the state's farking business.


I have always found it interesting how so many people's Fark handles match their (apparent) personality traits.
 
2014-01-09 12:38:15 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I would be shocked - SHOCKED - to find out that parents who videotape their cursing toddler (to the amusement and encouragement of the parents/other adults) may not be maintaining an exemplary home environment for said toddler, free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.


I would be shocked if any toddler on earth lives in a home free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.  I get your point, I just think you set the bar at the wrong height.
 
2014-01-09 12:38:48 PM

Ivandrago: Bumblefark:

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."

I have three drawers full of cases where we had to "come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids." And you often don't have to look very hard, because more often than not, something like this is the tip of the iceberg and when CPS gets into that house they find that mom loves to smoke weed or has a lengthy criminal record, or dad has a lengthy criminal record or a history of domestic violence, or this isn't mom's first run-in with CPS and there are already protective orders on this kid.
And then mom, sits at the other table next to her attorney crying that "she just wants her kids back" and dad is next to her with his attorney saying "I'm gonna fight this and stand strong for my kids."
There are hundreds of reasons to remove children from shiatty parents and none of them involve a kid saying bad words.


I'm not saying that sounds like a certain case I have first hand knowledge in, but... yeah.
Sad thing is, the kid is probably going to be in the system the next 4-5 years before it is all said and done.
 
2014-01-09 12:39:59 PM

flynn80: Why are words about human sexuality considered explict?  I'm sorry your phoney religous morality has brainwashed you but language is beautiful even when cruel, like nature.


I am an atheist and this subject has a lot more to do with COMMON SENSE than morality or freedom of speech.  If you LOVE your children, you treat them with respect and you teach them to respect others.

All of you who don't see a problem with this need to get real and ask yourself if you want YOUR kids to talk like this.  And if you don't have kids and don't have a problem with it, please go get a vasectomy or get your tubes tied.
 
2014-01-09 12:42:02 PM

Mell of a Hess: please: I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb

What's the exact difference between "racially mixed" and "very racially mixed"?


That isn't important right now. The outrage should be directed at parents who are too lazy to toilet train their children because they waste time teaching them to look out for suspicious white guys.
 
2014-01-09 12:43:17 PM

lennavan: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I would be shocked - SHOCKED - to find out that parents who videotape their cursing toddler (to the amusement and encouragement of the parents/other adults) may not be maintaining an exemplary home environment for said toddler, free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.

I would be shocked if any toddler on earth lives in a home free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.  I get your point, I just think you set the bar at the wrong height.


In the video, yes the bar is set at the wrong height. This is what they chose to show the world. Once Social Services did a surprise welfare check, as is completely understandable, to determine the conditions of the home in which the children are kept, it's reasonable to believe what they chose to not show the world, and keep in their homes, was much worse. No, this video isn't enough to remove children from a home, but it IS enough to solicit a welfare check. We don't know what they found because they usually can't discuss an ongoing investigation or open case.
 
2014-01-09 12:43:41 PM

Ivandrago: Bumblefark:

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."

I have three drawers full of cases where we had to "come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids." And you often don't have to look very hard, because more often than not, something like this is the tip of the iceberg and when CPS gets into that house they find that mom loves to smoke weed or has a lengthy criminal record, or dad has a lengthy criminal record or a history of domestic violence, or this isn't mom's first run-in with CPS and there are already protective orders on this kid.
And then mom, sits at the other table next to her attorney crying that "she just wants her kids back" and dad is next to her with his attorney saying "I'm gonna fight this and stand strong for my kids."
There are hundreds of reasons to remove children from shiatty parents and none of them involve a kid saying bad words.


Yeah...that was sort of my point. Fact is, they wouldn't have been there in the first place except for the video. I'm guessing that if you walked into any average household, and were hell-bent on finding "safety concerns," you could find them aplenty. So, yes, that does sort of raise legitimate questions about procedural fairness when we're talking about what (and how little) it takes to trigger such an investigation.
 
2014-01-09 12:43:47 PM
And what have we learned from all of this?

Don't put dat shiat on youtube, yo.
 
2014-01-09 12:44:36 PM
We're talking Omaha farking Nebraska - it's not like the kid ever had a chance anyway.

/indubitably
 
2014-01-09 12:45:17 PM

crzybtch: All of you who don't see a problem with this need to get real and ask yourself if you want YOUR kids to talk like this.


I see a problem with this.  I don't want my kids to talk like this.  But who the fark are you to tell me how to raise my kids?  I don't call the cops when you take your kids to McDonalds.
 
2014-01-09 12:45:47 PM
What a well-mannered, well-adjusted adult he will become.
 
2014-01-09 12:45:52 PM
I think that it is safe to say that tearing this particular "family" apart is probably for the best...
 
2014-01-09 12:46:01 PM

scottydoesntknow: Why hasn't CPS stepped in when the parents of this kid let him star in an R-rated movie

Or this girl:
[screencrave.com image 570x303]

with such quotes as:
Okay you coonts... Let's see what you can do now!
I'm just farking with you Daddy! Look, I'd love a Benchmade model 42 butterfly knife.
Show's over, motherfarkers.


Difference is the Hit Girl actress (Choe Mortiz) was old enough (11 I believe)  to know that it was a role not real life.  And according to an interview I heard on the radio, her mother was heavily involved in monitoring the filming.  For instance, she told the director there would be ONE take only for the "Okay you C--word" line.  If Chloe hadn't gotten it right in the first take, they would have had to film an alternative line.
 
2014-01-09 12:46:09 PM

AngryDragon: In this thread now:  "State had no reason!  Fascism!  Prudes!  Parent's rights!  Other cultures are worse!"

10 years from now: "That poor child.  Why didn't someone do something?  He never stood a chance.  All the warning signs were there"  after he's doing 15 to life.



This. CPS really can't win. What a demoralizing job that must be.

If you take kids away, shiatty parents go to the media crying about how they love their kids and want them back. If you leave them in the home and they OD on some drugs they found discarded under the couch or end up being killed by their skank mom's latest boyfriend, or they're found a few years later alone in a filthy, vermin-infested "home" with no food or means to get food, CPS is a bunch of lazy assholes who don't care about kids and stand by while helpless children are abused by their parents.

CPS needs people who care, but I understand why they have trouble finding them. It would only take a few months of being criticized no matter what I did before I'd say "fark it" and go find a more fulfilling, meaningful job at McDonald's.
 
2014-01-09 12:47:00 PM
People tend to curse for one of two reasons - potentially both - they are either rather ignorant and have a minimal grasp of the English language or for the shock value.  Expletives are often offensive, derogatory and hateful.  Isn't that the same test society has used to place a defacto ban on the use of words like fa99ot, n_gger (people who annoy you), etc.?

Given our hypersensitivity to certain words I expect that the list of non-utterables will continue to grow.  Should that occur I would hope that at least the same test is used each time a new word is condemned.
 
2014-01-09 12:47:28 PM

Cletus C.: Is there any concern at all about the repeated use of the N word?


Soft r, motherfarka
 
2014-01-09 12:47:57 PM

lennavan: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I would be shocked - SHOCKED - to find out that parents who videotape their cursing toddler (to the amusement and encouragement of the parents/other adults) may not be maintaining an exemplary home environment for said toddler, free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.

I would be shocked if any toddler on earth lives in a home free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.  I get your point, I just think you set the bar at the wrong height.


Sure. I'll rephrase:

I would be shocked - SHOCKED - to find out that parents who videotape their cursing toddler (to the amusement and encouragement of the parents/other adults) may not be maintaining an exemplary home environment for said toddler, free of significant, immediate threats to that toddler's health and/or life.

I assumed a reasonable person wouldn't need to be told that. My mistake.
 
2014-01-09 12:48:05 PM

Witty Comment: Bumblefark: JesusJuice: Bumblefark: JesusJuice: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

And it's NOT the reason CPS took the kids. The kids were taken because of safety concerns unrelated to the video.

You and everyone else repeating that the kid was taken because of the video have some serious reading comprehension problems.

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."

You have personal knowledge of this case? Please enlighten us. I'd hate to think you're just talking out your ass.

You're adorable.

That's your response..? THAT'S adorable. Instead of doing something intelligent and saying "you know what, you're right. I DON'T have any clue as to what ACTUALLY HAPPENED in the house, and even though at first glance I thought it was just a heavy handed tactic from the government I realize I was mistaken because it's magnitudes more likely that the chain of events wasn't that the police saw a video and simply took the kids."

Dude, if you're going to call anyone "adorable" and try to make them look stupid, you should really do some research into how the system actually works, and not how you perceive it to work. Then, when you DO call someone adorable, it really DOES make them look like a flailing idiot, rather than being an exercise in projection.

Bless your heart. *pats you on the head*

/That's how it's done.


I worked in social services for many years, and was involved in dozens of such cases. But, thanks for the tip.
 
2014-01-09 12:49:05 PM

Witty Comment: lennavan: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I would be shocked - SHOCKED - to find out that parents who videotape their cursing toddler (to the amusement and encouragement of the parents/other adults) may not be maintaining an exemplary home environment for said toddler, free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.

I would be shocked if any toddler on earth lives in a home free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.  I get your point, I just think you set the bar at the wrong height.

In the video, yes the bar is set at the wrong height. This is what they chose to show the world. Once Social Services did a surprise welfare check, as is completely understandable, to determine the conditions of the home in which the children are kept, it's reasonable to believe what they chose to not show the world, and keep in their homes, was much worse. No, this video isn't enough to remove children from a home, but it IS enough to solicit a welfare check. We don't know what they found because they usually can't discuss an ongoing investigation or open case.


I actually posted all of that myself previously in the thread.  I think you read way too far into my post you quoted.
 
2014-01-09 12:49:18 PM

OnlyM3: digitalrain [TotalFark]

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing. I don't think anyone is making that argument.

I think the point is sending armed gunmen to abduct said child is exponentially worse.

It's not the state's farking business.

// correction, it shouldn't be the state's farking business.


I disagree... They are obviously raising a future criminal here, and that makes it everyones problem.   I wish more children could be taken away from "parents" like this... unfortunately though I know that the CPS system is far from perfect and I do not want to give those farkwads any more power over people iether...
 
2014-01-09 12:51:20 PM
It's ok if CPS takes this babby away. His mom can just make another.

If she has a girl, it can be taught to twerk.
 
2014-01-09 12:52:26 PM

I think he would bring joy to a "family values" couple. Imagine the chuckles they will have when he he says "Suck my n***a dick, cracker biatch" to his new adoptive mother."


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-09 12:55:08 PM
99.998er:
img.fark.net

I think she's been steppin' out on him...
 
2014-01-09 12:55:48 PM

Mell of a Hess: please: I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb

What's the exact difference between "racially mixed" and "very racially mixed"?


You tell me:

Polish 22.9%
Black or African American 15.1%
Yugoslav 10.5%
Arab (Excluding Iraqi and Lebanese) 8.2%
Asian Indian 5.4%
Ukrainian 3.2%
German 2.9%
Albanian 2.8%
Bangladeshi 2.7%
Irish 2.2%
Italian 1.8%
Russia 1.4%
American 1.1%
French (excluding the Basques) 0.8%
Lebanese 0.7%
Scottish 0.7%
Mexican 0.6%
Pakistani 0.6%
Macedonian 0.5%
Iraqi 0.5%
 
2014-01-09 12:56:35 PM

Bumblefark: Witty Comment: Bumblefark: JesusJuice: Bumblefark: JesusJuice: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

And it's NOT the reason CPS took the kids. The kids were taken because of safety concerns unrelated to the video.

You and everyone else repeating that the kid was taken because of the video have some serious reading comprehension problems.

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."

You have personal knowledge of this case? Please enlighten us. I'd hate to think you're just talking out your ass.

You're adorable.

That's your response..? THAT'S adorable. Instead of doing something intelligent and saying "you know what, you're right. I DON'T have any clue as to what ACTUALLY HAPPENED in the house, and even though at first glance I thought it was just a heavy handed tactic from the government I realize I was mistaken because it's magnitudes more likely that the chain of events wasn't that the police saw a video and simply took the kids."

Dude, if you're going to call anyone "adorable" and try to make them look stupid, you should really do some research into how the system actually works, and not how you perceive it to work. Then, when you DO call someone adorable, it really DOES make them look like a flailing idiot, rather than being an exercise in projection.

Bless your heart. *pats you on the head*

/That's how it's done.

I worked in social services for many years, and was involved in dozens of such cases. But, thanks for the tip.


Thank you for leaving, then.
 
2014-01-09 12:57:05 PM

tricycleracer: Omaha, Nebraska: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.


Congress?
 
2014-01-09 12:58:14 PM

Bumblefark: I worked in social services for many years, and was involved in dozens of such cases.


So can you talk about why you were fired, or is there a court order?
 
2014-01-09 12:58:23 PM
CPS rarely swoops in and snatches a kid unless there is compelling verified reasons.  (CSB alert)  They showed up at my house once, because I was ranting and raving at my then-teen son.  The neighbor didn't bother to get anything other than the idea that my kid was about to be murdered.  As soon as CPS walked in and discovered that my teen was larger than anyone else in the house and prone to using illicit substances, they understood my screaming at him to stop using or I was going to have him arrested.  He was shocked that they agreed with me that no matter how stupid the drug laws might be, until further notice, obey the damn law.

Just glad he finally got clean and sober.  Well, at least enough to graduate and get out on his own. (/CSB)

Hope this kid goes to a better home.  He needs to be potty trained by this age.
 
2014-01-09 12:58:56 PM

Bane of Broone: Cletus C.: Is there any concern at all about the repeated use of the N word?

No and you still can't say it, cracker. Sorry that being white is so difficult.


Whether you can say it or not has to do with your social standing in a culture not your race,

If you really want to say but feel it might be inappropriate, you could just sing along with the radio while driving to work.
 
2014-01-09 12:59:43 PM
"I do believe this is a travesty. In due time, the truth will come out, and my loving family will be absolved of any wrong doing."

What the fark is that supposed to mean, subby?  Speak American, mother farker!
 
2014-01-09 01:00:29 PM

lennavan: Witty Comment: lennavan: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I would be shocked - SHOCKED - to find out that parents who videotape their cursing toddler (to the amusement and encouragement of the parents/other adults) may not be maintaining an exemplary home environment for said toddler, free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.

I would be shocked if any toddler on earth lives in a home free of threats to that toddler's health and/or life.  I get your point, I just think you set the bar at the wrong height.

In the video, yes the bar is set at the wrong height. This is what they chose to show the world. Once Social Services did a surprise welfare check, as is completely understandable, to determine the conditions of the home in which the children are kept, it's reasonable to believe what they chose to not show the world, and keep in their homes, was much worse. No, this video isn't enough to remove children from a home, but it IS enough to solicit a welfare check. We don't know what they found because they usually can't discuss an ongoing investigation or open case.

I actually posted all of that myself previously in the thread.  I think you read way too far into my post you quoted.


You're right. My bad, coach. I'm all "up in arms" in "ARE YOU KIDDING ME" mode. I took it at the wrong side of face value it seems.
 
2014-01-09 01:00:56 PM

crzybtch: flynn80: Why are words about human sexuality considered explict?  I'm sorry your phoney religous morality has brainwashed you but language is beautiful even when cruel, like nature.

I am an atheist and this subject has a lot more to do with COMMON SENSE than morality or freedom of speech.  If you LOVE your children, you treat them with respect and you teach them to respect others.

All of you who don't see a problem with this need to get real and ask yourself if you want YOUR kids to talk like this.  And if you don't have kids and don't have a problem with it, please go get a vasectomy or get your tubes tied.


I think most people believe it to be a bad thing, but the video is not enough, by itself, to warrant CPS stepping in.

Bumblefark: Yeah...that was sort of my point. Fact is, they wouldn't have been there in the first place except for the video. I'm guessing that if you walked into any average household, and were hell-bent on finding "safety concerns," you could find them aplenty. So, yes, that does sort of raise legitimate questions about procedural fairness when we're talking about what (and how little) it takes to trigger such an investigation.


Sorry, I mistook it for the usual fark anti-cop, anti-government snark.
I haven't been doing this job for very long, but the worst procedural unfairness I've seen so far is mostly around setting court dates and the fact that the works are often directly at odds with the parents and are also tasked with monitoring them. So when bad blood arises between the two, the worker can have significant say in what happens with the child and the parents attorney is usually fighting an uphill battle at that point.
 
2014-01-09 01:01:14 PM
How come they never describe red necks similar bullshiat as 'thuggery'.

Intervesting.
 
2014-01-09 01:02:10 PM

Mell of a Hess: please: I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb

What's the exact difference between "racially mixed" and "very racially mixed"?


whites dont automatically cross to the other side of the street when a black dude is walking toward them.

/because there is another black dude on the other side of the street
 
2014-01-09 01:03:49 PM
And this future felon will now probably be breaking into my car in about 13 years. Thanks Obama.
 
2014-01-09 01:04:38 PM
Also, to anyone else that I've mistaken the meaning of their posts, I would also like to extend the previously mentioned "my bad, coach", and offer my most sincere apologies and blowjobs.
 
2014-01-09 01:05:19 PM

99.998er: I think he would bring joy to a "family values" couple. Imagine the chuckles they will have when he he says "Suck my n***a dick, cracker biatch" to his new adoptive mother."
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 575x383]


That's horrible!

Not only is it the generic white top / denim bottom matching pic, but it's a diy shot against a white background. That doesn't completely cover the existing background.

Awful. Just awful.
 
2014-01-09 01:05:36 PM
You'll notice the racists and Fark "libertarians" don't want this kid taken away. For the former it's because they have no interest in helping solve the problems in the black community because then they wouldn't have these types of incidents to point to feed their prejudices. For the latter it's because they want poors and criminals to stay exactly where they are in life and for them to continue the cycle so they can feel more smug about their own bootstrappiness.

There is of course a crossover between these two mindsets.

It's why they pumped the ghettos full of heroin to put down the Black Panthers movement. Can't have black people being all sober and intelligent. They might make something out of themselves. It is a frightening prospect because they think they black people will treat them exactly how they have been treated.

At this point they are probably right. Should have just stopped being assholes to them after slavery ended or at the very least after the civil rights movement... but you just had to keep poking at them and f*cking with them. Now you've got a large segment of the population jaded, angry and not giving a f*ck.

Well done, retards.
 
2014-01-09 01:06:10 PM

OnlyM3: digitalrain [TotalFark]

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing. I don't think anyone is making that argument.

I think the point is sending armed gunmen to abduct said child is exponentially worse.

It's not the state's farking business.

// correction, it shouldn't be the state's farking business.


Depends. Will you say it's not the State's business when the kid is 16, in juvie for his 4th felony, and his mom's popped out 3 more for welfare?

Farkers are always complaining - and rightly, I might add - that a child's background and circumstance are critical in them becoming well-adjusted members of society. Here's a case where the State stepped in as soon as they had a reason, and now you're screaming "omg overreaction!"

So which is it - perfectly ok to raise them however so long as they have food, clothing, and shelter, or does society have a vested interest in other aspects of how children are raised?
 
2014-01-09 01:10:13 PM
anyone got the link to uncensored version?
 
2014-01-09 01:10:34 PM

here to help: You'll notice the racists and Fark "libertarians" don't want this kid taken away. For the former it's because they have no interest in helping solve the problems in the black community because then they wouldn't have these types of incidents to point to feed their prejudices. For the latter it's because they want poors and criminals to stay exactly where they are in life and for them to continue the cycle so they can feel more smug about their own bootstrappiness.

There is of course a crossover between these two mindsets.

It's why they pumped the ghettos full of heroin to put down the Black Panthers movement. Can't have black people being all sober and intelligent. They might make something out of themselves. It is a frightening prospect because they think they black people will treat them exactly how they have been treated.

At this point they are probably right. Should have just stopped being assholes to them after slavery ended or at the very least after the civil rights movement... but you just had to keep poking at them and f*cking with them. Now you've got a large segment of the population jaded, angry and not giving a f*ck.

Well done, retards.



You know, I don't think you're here to help at all.
 
2014-01-09 01:11:10 PM

cherryl taggart: CPS rarely swoops in and snatches a kid unless there is compelling verified reasons.  (CSB alert)  They showed up at my house once, because I was ranting and raving at my then-teen son.  The neighbor didn't bother to get anything other than the idea that my kid was about to be murdered.  As soon as CPS walked in and discovered that my teen was larger than anyone else in the house and prone to using illicit substances, they understood my screaming at him to stop using or I was going to have him arrested.  He was shocked that they agreed with me that no matter how stupid the drug laws might be, until further notice, obey the damn law.

Just glad he finally got clean and sober.  Well, at least enough to graduate and get out on his own. (/CSB)

Hope this kid goes to a better home.  He needs to be potty trained by this age.


My daughter is 14, she called social services saying I was an unfit parent. I am 31 years old, yeah I made some poor choices in life - but my daughter gets to school every day, has a clean house to live in and food on the table all day long. She through a hissy fit because on school nights her ass is suppose to be home by 8 pm, double check homework is done eat dinner and in bed by 9:30pm. She wanted to hang out at her friends house until 11pm, 5am rolls around rather quick so I said absolutely not on a week day. She claims I never let her "see her friends" except friday and saturday night she has all the time to go out scooty poopin.

Social services showed up, practically laughed at her and left, told me if she acts retarded just call the sheriff and let her stay a weekend in juvi detention. She woke up mighty quick when they said that. It was more then just going out late at night,  I met my wife now and she was having a hard time dealing with the fact her mom was a biatch who left her and me to do some drugs and "forfill her hollywood" dreams, pretty sure she's dead by now but who cares.

I'm glad we got over that hill because it was starting to look like a mountain I wouldn't been able to handle.
 
2014-01-09 01:13:19 PM

Mell of a Hess: BigNumber12: All cultures are equal.

I'm partial to yogurt and occasionally cottage cheese.


Have you tried kefir?  It's good too.  Like halfway between yogurt and milk.
 
2014-01-09 01:15:04 PM

Pucca: Well at least it was a two parent household.


Are we sure it's the actual father or Sperm Donor #2?
 
2014-01-09 01:15:06 PM

indarwinsshadow: Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.

That's because you have an IQ of 85. Congrats son. You'll never earn more than minimum wage.


I'm in the 97th percentile for IQ. I'm expecting that this year I'll be in the top 5% of wage earners in the US. I agree with the maker of barf.
 
2014-01-09 01:18:42 PM
Witty Comment

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world

Swearing near a kid and a swearing kid are no reasons for the knock the door in the first place.
 
2014-01-09 01:19:02 PM

lennavan: You know, I don't think you're here to help at all.


Oh, but I am. Now please step into the white room on the left and don't be alarmed by the delousing spray as you walk down the hall. It will only sting for a moment.
 
2014-01-09 01:19:32 PM

Misconduc: cherryl taggart: CPS rarely swoops in and snatches a kid unless there is compelling verified reasons.  (CSB alert)  They showed up at my house once, because I was ranting and raving at my then-teen son.  The neighbor didn't bother to get anything other than the idea that my kid was about to be murdered.  As soon as CPS walked in and discovered that my teen was larger than anyone else in the house and prone to using illicit substances, they understood my screaming at him to stop using or I was going to have him arrested.  He was shocked that they agreed with me that no matter how stupid the drug laws might be, until further notice, obey the damn law.

Just glad he finally got clean and sober.  Well, at least enough to graduate and get out on his own. (/CSB)

Hope this kid goes to a better home.  He needs to be potty trained by this age.

My daughter is 14, she called social services saying I was an unfit parent. I am 31 years old, yeah I made some poor choices in life - but my daughter gets to school every day, has a clean house to live in and food on the table all day long. She through a hissy fit because on school nights her ass is suppose to be home by 8 pm, double check homework is done eat dinner and in bed by 9:30pm. She wanted to hang out at her friends house until 11pm, 5am rolls around rather quick so I said absolutely not on a week day. She claims I never let her "see her friends" except friday and saturday night she has all the time to go out scooty poopin.

Social services showed up, practically laughed at her and left, told me if she acts retarded just call the sheriff and let her stay a weekend in juvi detention. She woke up mighty quick when they said that. It was more then just going out late at night,  I met my wife now and she was having a hard time dealing with the fact her mom was a biatch who left her and me to do some drugs and "forfill her hollywood" dreams, pretty sure she's dead by now but who cares.

I'm glad we got over that hill because it ...


Jesus dude...
 
2014-01-09 01:23:45 PM
Yes. Forcing a 14 year old girl to be in bed by 9:30 pm and threatening her with incarceration if she steps out of line is TOTES the way to ensure she isn't going to end up as a suspension bridge on redtube with multicolored cocks as the guy wires.

lulz
 
2014-01-09 01:24:04 PM

OnlyM3: Witty Comment

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world
Swearing near a kid and a swearing kid are no reasons for the knock the door in the first place.



Putting a video online of you teaching a child to swear certainly warrants some attention. And, as noted, if that attention found other dangers to the child, they wouldn't be able to reveal it as details of an ongoing case.
 
2014-01-09 01:25:37 PM

99.998er: I think he would bring joy to a "family values" couple.


I'm still trying to figure out what "family values" is a euphemism for.
 
2014-01-09 01:26:04 PM
This kid better hope his mama doesnt find out who his father is or he'll be in for on hell of an ass whoopin'.
 
2014-01-09 01:27:18 PM

Carn: Mell of a Hess: BigNumber12: All cultures are equal.

I'm partial to yogurt and occasionally cottage cheese.

Have you tried kefir?  It's good too.  Like halfway between yogurt and milk.


Oddly enough, I took a "lacto-fermented foods" class a few months ago, and actually have some kefir in my fridge right now.
 
2014-01-09 01:29:43 PM

BigNumber12: Carn: Mell of a Hess: BigNumber12: All cultures are equal.

I'm partial to yogurt and occasionally cottage cheese.

Have you tried kefir?  It's good too.  Like halfway between yogurt and milk.

Oddly enough, I took a "lacto-fermented foods" class a few months ago, and actually have some kefir in my fridge right now.


Forgive the interruption, but I have to know.....

What in the fark made you even think of taking a class called "lacto-fermented foods"?  It sounds like a C horror movie premise....

:)
 
2014-01-09 01:30:50 PM

OnlyM3: digitalrain [TotalFark]

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing. I don't think anyone is making that argument.

I think the point is sending armed gunmen to abduct said child is exponentially worse.

It's not the state's farking business.

// correction, it shouldn't be the state's farking business.


Can't argue with you there. Well, I could, but I won't because I happen to agree :)
 
2014-01-09 01:31:25 PM

OnlyM3: Witty Comment

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world
Swearing near a kid and a swearing kid are no reasons for the knock the door in the first place.


is that what you think you saw?  you think a group of adults hurling curse words and telling a toddler that they are basically a worthless bag of skin and never will be worth anything (only much harsher) is no reason for a knock on the door?  where do you draw the line?  is there any words short of death threats that would change your mind?
 
2014-01-09 01:36:23 PM

OnlyM3: // correction, it shouldn't be the state's farking business.



Do you really think that? There is a virtual certainty that this kid will be the "state's business" in just a few years. Given that home environment, how well do you think he will do in school? So the State will have to foot the bill for an individualized education plan after he is diagnosed as having some authority-disorder. By middle school, he will probably be a criminal. So the State will foot the bill to prosecute him, defend him, and then perhaps put him in a prison-school. Throughout this time, he will probably be getting state and federal subsidies for medical care, food, etc... After a few years of that, he will be doing drugs and committing serious criminal offenses, and we will pay to defend, prosecute, and incarcerate him.

So, why in your opinion is it "not the state's farking business" to take steps now to prevent having to pay possibly tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to take care of things after this kid inevitably starts acting consistent with how he is being raised?
 
2014-01-09 01:36:46 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Forgive the interruption, but I have to know.....

What in the fark made you even think of taking a class called "lacto-fermented foods"? It sounds like a C horror movie premise....


I'm looking to start making my own sauerkraut. Saw a somewhat-related class offered through my city, jumped at the chance. It was about an hour long, and the instructor had made a dozen or so dishes to sample. It was actually pretty interesting, though I was by far the youngest person there.
 
2014-01-09 01:37:46 PM

OnlyM3: Witty Comment

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world
Swearing near a kid and a swearing kid are no reasons for the knock the door in the first place.


I agree. However instructing a child on how to be abusive and outright rewarding abusive via emotional feedback behavior do certainly warrant a knock on the door. Those things are not equal. Also, if someone calls a welfare check in, I'm pretty sure they're obligated to investigate, much in the same way when someone calls to report a crime.
 
2014-01-09 01:41:19 PM

pho75: So, why in your opinion is it "not the state's farking business" to take steps now to prevent having to pay possibly tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to take care of things after this kid inevitably starts acting consistent with how he is being raised?


Apparently you aren't familiar with Onlyd3rp.

He takes the most wrongheaded, backwards ass, inflammatory position possible on pretty much everything. He's probably touching his wiener right now because of all the bites he's getting.
 
2014-01-09 01:42:22 PM

here to help: pho75: So, why in your opinion is it "not the state's farking business" to take steps now to prevent having to pay possibly tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to take care of things after this kid inevitably starts acting consistent with how he is being raised?

Apparently you aren't familiar with Onlyd3rp.

He takes the most wrongheaded, backwards ass, inflammatory position possible on pretty much everything. He's probably touching his wiener right now because of all the bites he's getting.



You're his alt, aren't you? Admit it.
 
2014-01-09 01:44:18 PM

BigNumber12: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Forgive the interruption, but I have to know.....

What in the fark made you even think of taking a class called "lacto-fermented foods"? It sounds like a C horror movie premise....

I'm looking to start making my own sauerkraut. Saw a somewhat-related class offered through my city, jumped at the chance. It was about an hour long, and the instructor had made a dozen or so dishes to sample. It was actually pretty interesting, though I was by far the youngest person there.


Cool!  I used to make sauerkraut with my gramma, stored/fermented it in the old 8 gallon crocks under the stairs in the basement.  (I would probably be the OLDEST person in that class...LOL)

Good luck with your future endeavors!
 
2014-01-09 01:45:39 PM
Geez. I bet someone wishes they hadn't uploaded a video about now. It's all fun and games until CPS shows up.
 
2014-01-09 01:46:56 PM

Boojum2k: You're his alt, aren't you? Admit it.


*HURK*

...

Seriously though, I'm good... but I'm not THAT good. Besides, trolling from the right is soooo cliche.
 
2014-01-09 01:47:26 PM
If they lock the little black thing up now, it will help our society.
 
2014-01-09 01:50:26 PM

here to help: Boojum2k: You're his alt, aren't you? Admit it.

*HURK*

...

Seriously though, I'm good... but I'm not THAT good. Besides, trolling from the right is soooo cliche.



*Funny!*


Seriously, that cracked me up way more than it should. Well done!
 
2014-01-09 01:51:25 PM

Facetious_Speciest: Geez. I bet someone wishes they hadn't uploaded a video about now. It's all fun and games until CPS shows up.


I bet someone, somewhere, is wishing they could figure out a way to cash in on Homey Boo Boo.
 
2014-01-09 01:51:54 PM

digitalrain: OnlyM3: digitalrain [TotalFark]

I just don't see where teaching a 2 year old kid to say "suck my dick" (and that's the tamer stuff) is a good thing. I don't think anyone is making that argument.

I think the point is sending armed gunmen to abduct said child is exponentially worse.

It's not the state's farking business.

// correction, it shouldn't be the state's farking business.

Can't argue with you there. Well, I could, but I won't because I happen to agree :)


Let me clarify that - I don't agree w/ the whole 'armed gunmen being sent to abduct the child' thing, but
a welfare check? Based on what we've seen in the video? That wouldn't be beyond the pale at all.
 
2014-01-09 01:52:12 PM

wellreadneck: Facetious_Speciest: Geez. I bet someone wishes they hadn't uploaded a video about now. It's all fun and games until CPS shows up.

I bet someone, somewhere, is wishing they could figure out a way to cash in on Homey Boo Boo.



Homey don't play that.
 
2014-01-09 01:53:55 PM
LAWL, dem negroes be totes craycray
 
2014-01-09 01:55:43 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Good luck with your future endeavors!


I made a (whey-based) cranberry-ginger relish that was to die for. Fortunately, nobody actually died from it.

Success!
 
2014-01-09 01:56:59 PM

pho75: There is a virtual certainty that this kid will be the "state's business" in just a few years.


I'm just curious as to what you mean by virtual certainty and upon what evidence you base that assertion.  What % of kids from environments like this end up being the state's business within a few years?

pho75: Given that home environment, how well do you think he will do in school?


I don't know.  I don't know the statistics, nor do I know the research.  What I do know is I'm not going to just make shiat up and imagine it.  So you tell me, how well do you think he will do in school and upon what do you base that?

pho75: By middle school, he will probably be a criminal.


What % chance do you mean by "probably" and upon what evidence do you base that assertion?

pho75: Throughout this time, he will probably be getting state and federal subsidies for medical care, food, etc


What % chance do you mean "probably" and upon what evidence do you base that assertion?

pho75: After a few years of that, he will be doing drugs and committing serious criminal offenses, and we will pay to defend, prosecute, and incarcerate him.


Upon what evidence do you base this assertion?

pho75: So, why in your opinion is it "not the state's farking business" to take steps now


I just would like to know upon what evidence the state is taking steps now.  You do know what the evidence is, right?  I mean, there's just no way in hell you're suggesting the state take steps now based on your imagination, right?  Because that would be amazingly stupid.  I mean that would be so stupid, there is a virtual certainty that you're too stupid to hold a job and will be committing serious criminal offenses in order to survive so we should just incarcerate you now.
 
2014-01-09 01:57:03 PM
I see OnlyM3 is getting big bites here.
 
2014-01-09 01:57:50 PM

zepillin: you could just sing along with the radio while driving to work.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlDBi0cyIA">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=GKlDBi0cyIA
 
2014-01-09 01:59:40 PM

lockers: How come they never describe red necks similar bullshiat as 'thuggery'.

Intervesting.


Because rednecks don't have smartphones and they have to go to the liberry to get on the internets?
 
2014-01-09 02:00:51 PM

Boojum2k: *Funny!*


Seriously, that cracked me up way more than it should. Well done!



When it comes down to it I think we're all here to have some yucks. Even the d3rper in question. I have a hard time accepting he actually believes half the crap he says.

It's fun to pretend though.
 
2014-01-09 02:03:02 PM

lockers: How come they never describe red necks similar bullshiat as 'thuggery'.


This particular subculture self-identifies as "Thug." Is is wrong to use their preferred nomenclature?
 
2014-01-09 02:03:03 PM

here to help: Boojum2k: You're his alt, aren't you? Admit it.

*HURK*

...

Seriously though, I'm good... but I'm not THAT good. Besides, trolling from the right is soooo cliche.


Hello Westboro. How are you? Good to see you you. How ya been?
 
2014-01-09 02:07:48 PM
i.imgur.com

Nature vs Nurture?

Bet you 1 dollar?
 
2014-01-09 02:07:57 PM

kerrigand: Hello Westboro. How are you? Good to see you you. How ya been?


Que?
 
2014-01-09 02:08:17 PM

lennavan: crzybtch: All of you who don't see a problem with this need to get real and ask yourself if you want YOUR kids to talk like this.

I see a problem with this.  I don't want my kids to talk like this.  But who the fark are you to tell me how to raise my kids?  I don't call the cops when you take your kids to McDonalds.


I AM the one to tell you how to raise your kids if your kid is like the one on the video.  Someone has to do it because you are too ignorant to figure it out.
 
2014-01-09 02:14:01 PM

crzybtch: I AM the one to tell you how to raise your kids


You are indeed a crzybtch.  Which by the way, means if you have kids the cops should probably take them away from you.  I don't want kids around someone who uses language like you.
 
2014-01-09 02:16:49 PM
No idea how an 'audio abuse' law would be written... but I do feel sorry for the kid
 
2014-01-09 02:20:44 PM

crzybtch: lennavan: crzybtch: All of you who don't see a problem with this need to get real and ask yourself if you want YOUR kids to talk like this.

I see a problem with this.  I don't want my kids to talk like this.  But who the fark are you to tell me how to raise my kids?  I don't call the cops when you take your kids to McDonalds.

I AM the one to tell you how to raise your kids if your kid is like the one on the video.  Someone has to do it because you are too ignorant to figure it out.


pretty much this...  or to put it another way... if you saw me working on my truck, and I was draining my brake fluid thinking it was regular maintenance, I would want someone to stop me before I get on the road and plow into someone...   This is exactly what they are doing to this child.  They are draining his promising future away and he is going to crash eventually...
 
2014-01-09 02:34:02 PM

untaken_name: lockers: How come they never describe red necks similar bullshiat as 'thuggery'.

Intervesting.

Because rednecks don't have smartphones and they have to go to the liberry to get on the internets?


BigNumber12: lockers: How come they never describe red necks similar bullshiat as 'thuggery'.

This particular subculture self-identifies as "Thug." Is is wrong to use their preferred nomenclature?


Just as rednecks identify with buggery.
 
2014-01-09 02:40:52 PM
FTFA: Just another day on the Internet -- until the police union in Omaha, Nebraska, posted the clip on its website to highlight what it called the "cycle of violence and thuggery" the community faces.

It is of course being perpetuated by the State of Omaha what with coming into a citizen's crib and snatchin up dey cheerin fo speakin his minds and shiat... suck mah mothafarkin dick, yo.
 
2014-01-09 02:44:30 PM

crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.


Funny, TFA didn't mention why the child was actually taken away. The video only prompted the visit, not the removal, and yes, it's hard to tell if a child's being abused sometimes.
 
2014-01-09 02:47:53 PM

Mell of a Hess: please: I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb

What's the exact difference between "racially mixed" and "very racially mixed"?


Only an average of three residences with a fully paid utility bill?
 
2014-01-09 02:55:41 PM

Maul555: crzybtch: lennavan: crzybtch: All of you who don't see a problem with this need to get real and ask yourself if you want YOUR kids to talk like this.

I see a problem with this.  I don't want my kids to talk like this.  But who the fark are you to tell me how to raise my kids?  I don't call the cops when you take your kids to McDonalds.

I AM the one to tell you how to raise your kids if your kid is like the one on the video.  Someone has to do it because you are too ignorant to figure it out.

pretty much this...  or to put it another way... if you saw me working on my truck, and I was draining my brake fluid thinking it was regular maintenance, I would want someone to stop me before I get on the road and plow into someone...   This is exactly what they are doing to this child.  They are draining his promising future away and he is going to crash eventually...


That's a bingo.

This isn't taking your kid to McDonald's so I'm going to take your kid away because I think they should eat more healthy food.  This is removing a child from a lifestyle that is actively promoting anti-social, anti-civilized behavior.  The cycle has to be broken somewhere, and since the idiotic thug-life parents in this case were obviously not going to be the ones to do it, someone else had to step in.
 
2014-01-09 03:01:47 PM

99.998er: I think he would bring joy to a "family values" couple. Imagine the chuckles they will have when he he says "Suck my n***a dick, cracker biatch" to his new adoptive mother."
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 575x383]


<checks own profile>
Kick out of the reply, etc.
Still trying to figure out if that was supposed to be some sort of funnay
 
2014-01-09 03:05:19 PM

technicolor-misfit: I don't agree with a lot of shiat parents do to their kids... should they all have their children removed?


Maybe we could just stop assigning owners to human beings in the first place, and then this issue wouldn't exist. We like to pretend we did so 1865, but "parental rights" and the related extrajudicial declaration of incompetence in minors beg to disagree.
 
2014-01-09 03:10:04 PM

lennavan: But who the fark are you to tell me how to raise my kids?


A) The actual legal standard basically only allows children to be removed when there's a threat to their safety. I strongly suspect that while this video may have been the trigger for the removal, it was not the cause.

B) We're society. We get to make collective judgements about acceptable social behavior, including child rearing.
 
2014-01-09 03:17:18 PM

PsiChick: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

Funny, TFA didn't mention why the child was actually taken away. The video only prompted the visit, not the removal, and yes, it's hard to tell if a child's being abused sometimes.


Why would the video prompt a visit?  Ohh I forgot, CPS basically operates off of publicity.

Regardless of what you or I think about the language used it's pretty obvious the adults and the kid are having fun with the whole thing.

The union had zero reason to post the video, it was basically a passive way to say: "look at these savages".
 
2014-01-09 03:24:19 PM

IRQ12: PsiChick: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

Funny, TFA didn't mention why the child was actually taken away. The video only prompted the visit, not the removal, and yes, it's hard to tell if a child's being abused sometimes.

Why would the video prompt a visit?  Ohh I forgot, CPS basically operates off of publicity.

Regardless of what you or I think about the language used it's pretty obvious the adults and the kid are having fun with the whole thing.

The union had zero reason to post the video, it was basically a passive way to say: "look at these savages".


The video prompted a visit because they were swearing at the child and calling him names. Was the kid having fun then? Yes. Was it as fun three hours later when they're not joking and swearing a blue streak at the kid because the kid was playing with a spoon and now they can't find it? Probably not.
 
2014-01-09 03:26:44 PM

Bumblefark: Witty Comment: Bumblefark: JesusJuice: Bumblefark: JesusJuice: crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.

And it's NOT the reason CPS took the kids. The kids were taken because of safety concerns unrelated to the video.

You and everyone else repeating that the kid was taken because of the video have some serious reading comprehension problems.

*wink*

/that's bureaucrat-speak for, "hold on while we come up with a legally defensible reason for taking the kids."

You have personal knowledge of this case? Please enlighten us. I'd hate to think you're just talking out your ass.

You're adorable.

That's your response..? THAT'S adorable. Instead of doing something intelligent and saying "you know what, you're right. I DON'T have any clue as to what ACTUALLY HAPPENED in the house, and even though at first glance I thought it was just a heavy handed tactic from the government I realize I was mistaken because it's magnitudes more likely that the chain of events wasn't that the police saw a video and simply took the kids."

Dude, if you're going to call anyone "adorable" and try to make them look stupid, you should really do some research into how the system actually works, and not how you perceive it to work. Then, when you DO call someone adorable, it really DOES make them look like a flailing idiot, rather than being an exercise in projection.

Bless your heart. *pats you on the head*

/That's how it's done.

I worked in social services for many years, and was involved in dozens of such cases. But, thanks for the tip.


Thank god you got fired...
 
2014-01-09 03:28:12 PM

Witty Comment: Thank you for leaving, then.


But...but none of those words are in all caps. How will I ever know which ones are important?

/also, a nice hot cup of calm the fark down might be in order.
 
2014-01-09 03:29:38 PM

Petey4335: 99.998er: I think he would bring joy to a "family values" couple. Imagine the chuckles they will have when he he says "Suck my n***a dick, cracker biatch" to his new adoptive mother."
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 575x383]

<checks own profile>
Kick out of the reply, etc.
Still trying to figure out if that was supposed to be some sort of funnay


Your kids have your eyes!
 
2014-01-09 03:30:03 PM

StrangeQ: This isn't taking your kid to McDonald's so I'm going to take your kid away because I think they should eat more healthy food.


I see you are currently taking your kids to McDonalds.  I therefore assume every day for every meal for the rest of your childhood you will be taking your kids to McDonalds and demand your kids be taken away.  You get what's wrong with that, right?  That's really stupid and anyone who argued something like that would be a giant idiot, right?

So you saw a video of a kid being encouraged to swear and whatnot.  You saw one single instance.  What do you conclude?

StrangeQ: This is removing a child from a lifestyle that is actively promoting anti-social, anti-civilized behavior. The cycle has to be broken somewhere, and since the idiotic thug-life parents in this case were obviously not going to be the ones to do it, someone else had to step in.


Wow, one video and you know things about this kid's lifestyle, his "thug-life parents" and what they were or were not going to do in the future.  That's like if I saw you with your kids at McDonalds and...

Well, forget it, you're a giant idiot, you'd never understand.
 
2014-01-09 03:30:39 PM

JesusJuice: Thank god you got fired...


Heh. Can't come up with your own material?
 
2014-01-09 03:32:59 PM

profplump: A) The actual legal standard basically only allows children to be removed when there's a threat to their safety. I strongly suspect that while this video may have been the trigger for the removal, it was not the cause.


I agree.  In the post I replied to, she was arguing for government intervention for just what was in the video.

profplump: B) We're society. We get to make collective judgements about acceptable social behavior, including child rearing and gay marriage.


I added something for you to help see a different perspective.  While I agree with you that currently we do get to make those decisions, I am arguing that we should not be able to.
 
2014-01-09 03:35:15 PM

Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.


If you don't see how that environment virtually guarantees a bad future for the young toddler then I can only say I hope you don't have kids. You may not know this but they are somewhat impressionable.
 
2014-01-09 03:41:24 PM
The kid is lucky he doesn't live in LA. here the CPS just says "fark it, everyhing's fine" and a few months later: dead kid. that's just how our incompetent but unionized CPS rolls in Los Angeles County.
 
2014-01-09 03:50:35 PM

Witty Comment: Here's what may have/probably happened:

Video->Posting on Internet->Re-posting by police->Concerned Citizen calls police->Police pass complain to Social Services->Social Services is reasonably suspicious abuse may be occurring based upon video, and investigates->Social Services goes to home, finds things that are of imminent danger and harm to children->Children are removed from home.

What probably didn't happen:

Video->Posting on Internet->Nazi's break down doors and point guns at everyone and steal the children->Police claim victory and shag the dead hookers they keep in evidence locker along with the blow.

You MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN there's a process for these things. I'm as big a cop and government hater as the next guy, but FFS people, THINK: this is what they chose to show the world. What do you think was found in the house when Social Services visited that they were hiding?


A funny scene from Shameless comes to mind.

NSFW LANGUAGE!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2JKY42pc8UM #t =59
 
2014-01-09 03:54:11 PM

Maul555: you think a group of adults hurling curse words and telling a toddler that they are basically a worthless bag of skin and never will be worth anything (only much harsher)


I don't think you followed the conversation too well.
 
2014-01-09 04:00:43 PM

Ivandrago: Bumblefark: Yeah...that was sort of my point. Fact is, they wouldn't have been there in the first place except for the video. I'm guessing that if you walked into any average household, and were hell-bent on finding "safety concerns," you could find them aplenty. So, yes, that does sort of raise legitimate questions about procedural fairness when we're talking about what (and how little) it takes to trigger such an investigation.

Sorry, I mistook it for the usual fark anti-cop, anti-government snark.
I haven't been doing this job for very long, but the worst procedural unfairness I've seen so far is mostly around setting court dates and the fact that the works are often directly at odds with the parents and are also tasked with monitoring them. So when bad blood arises between the two, the worker can have significant say in what happens with the child and the parents attorney is usually fighting an uphill battle at that point.


No problem. Yeah, it's pretty much one big clusterfark of moral ambiguity. I'm actually sort of ambivalent in the present case; based on the video, I'd be inclined to intervene, too. But, I'd also have to admit that there's nothing in the video (per se) that legitimately warrants it. Or, at least, nothing that ought to.

/*shrugs
 
2014-01-09 04:14:09 PM

trappedspirit: Maul555: you think a group of adults hurling curse words and telling a toddler that they are basically a worthless bag of skin and never will be worth anything (only much harsher)

I don't think you followed the conversation too well.


what do you mean and why did you cut my quote short?
 
2014-01-09 04:45:24 PM

please: Mell of a Hess: please: I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb

What's the exact difference between "racially mixed" and "very racially mixed"?

You tell me:

Polish 22.9%
Black or African American 15.1%
Yugoslav 10.5%
Arab (Excluding Iraqi and Lebanese) 8.2%
Asian Indian 5.4%
Ukrainian 3.2%
German 2.9%
Albanian 2.8%
Bangladeshi 2.7%
Irish 2.2%
Italian 1.8%
Russia 1.4%
American 1.1%
French (excluding the Basques) 0.8%
Lebanese 0.7%
Scottish 0.7%
Mexican 0.6%
Pakistani 0.6%
Macedonian 0.5%
Iraqi 0.5%


You don't need the "very" - if it's mixed, it's mixed.  If it ain't, it ain't.

Hates the word very, and most other qualifiers.

And, why do the French keep excluding the Basquqes?  Why?
 
2014-01-09 05:12:13 PM

Mell of a Hess: please: Mell of a Hess: please: I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb

What's the exact difference between "racially mixed" and "very racially mixed"?

You tell me:

Polish 22.9%
Black or African American 15.1%
Yugoslav 10.5%
Arab (Excluding Iraqi and Lebanese) 8.2%
Asian Indian 5.4%
Ukrainian 3.2%
German 2.9%
Albanian 2.8%
Bangladeshi 2.7%
Irish 2.2%
Italian 1.8%
Russia 1.4%
American 1.1%
French (excluding the Basques) 0.8%
Lebanese 0.7%
Scottish 0.7%
Mexican 0.6%
Pakistani 0.6%
Macedonian 0.5%
Iraqi 0.5%

You don't need the "very" - if it's mixed, it's mixed.  If it ain't, it ain't.

Hates the word very, and most other qualifiers.

And, why do the French keep excluding the Basquqes?  Why?


do you also hate the word more?  how about slightly?  do you also think that the word extremely is to be shunned?
 
2014-01-09 05:16:21 PM

lockers: How come they never describe red necks similar bullshiat as 'thuggery'.

Intervesting.


White people can only be true thugs if they are from Eastern Europe.

/or if they are a fan of a Philadelphia sports team
 
2014-01-09 05:18:01 PM

Maul555: trappedspirit: Maul555: you think a group of adults hurling curse words and telling a toddler that they are basically a worthless bag of skin and never will be worth anything (only much harsher)

I don't think you followed the conversation too well.

what do you mean and why did you cut my quote short?


Because that was then end of the portion of your quote in which you were describing the content of the "conversation".  Most of which was getting the child to repeat things rather than tell him he was "a worthless bag of skin and never will be worth anything" .
 
2014-01-09 05:24:08 PM

TheGogmagog: CPS is basically a HOA


Because children are property and not people
 
2014-01-09 05:45:19 PM

crab66: This is not a good enough reason to take a kid away from his parents. Sorry.


diaf
 
2014-01-09 06:27:23 PM

Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.


And that's why you aren't part of the solution
 
2014-01-09 06:52:55 PM

lennavan: profplump: A) The actual legal standard basically only allows children to be removed when there's a threat to their safety. I strongly suspect that while this video may have been the trigger for the removal, it was not the cause.

I agree.  In the post I replied to, she was arguing for government intervention for just what was in the video.

profplump: B) We're society. We get to make collective judgements about acceptable social behavior, including child rearing and gay marriage.

I added something for you to help see a different perspective.  While I agree with you that currently we do get to make those decisions, I am arguing that we should not be able to.


Except that children are uniquely vulnerable to abuse from adults because of their limited experience, knowledge and abilities. Gay marriage, that's between two consenting adults who theoretically can look out for their own best interests, and it's a contract that society explicitly authorizes for most people, and there's no justifiable reason to not extend it to everyone. On the other hand, society does have a very real and vested interest in children growing up without dying or abused and perpetuating a broken social contract.
 
2014-01-09 06:56:07 PM

John the Magnificent: A Terrible Human: A toddler cursing and the adults laughing? Why goodness gracious someone grab the fainting couch while I clutch my pearls.
/Come on toddlers cursing is hilarious and none of the state's farking business.

I have always found it interesting how so many people's Fark handles match their (apparent) personality traits.


So since I have this username you think I'm actually a terrible person for thinking a toddler cursing is funny? Dude it happens,babies repeat what they hear and it can be really funny sometimes. But thanks for being a total douche about it.
 
2014-01-09 09:15:33 PM

scottydoesntknow: Why hasn't CPS stepped in when the parents of this kid let him star in an R-rated movie

[i500.listal.com image 500x250]

with such quotes as:
My language is English and this mother farker tried to grab my junk.
fark you, Miss Daisy.
Partner in crime. You're my PIC. Just don't cock-block me tonight.

Or this girl:
[screencrave.com image 570x303]

with such quotes as:
Okay you coonts... Let's see what you can do now!
I'm just farking with you Daddy! Look, I'd love a Benchmade model 42 butterfly knife.
Show's over, motherfarkers.


Funny, when I did a YouTube™ search for 'swearing toddler, the first result was the video in question...followed by numerous videos of white kids swearing.
 
2014-01-09 11:41:13 PM

lennavan: StrangeQ: This isn't taking your kid to McDonald's so I'm going to take your kid away because I think they should eat more healthy food.

I see you are currently taking your kids to McDonalds.  I therefore assume every day for every meal for the rest of your childhood you will be taking your kids to McDonalds and demand your kids be taken away.  You get what's wrong with that, right?  That's really stupid and anyone who argued something like that would be a giant idiot, right?

So you saw a video of a kid being encouraged to swear and whatnot.  You saw one single instance.  What do you conclude?

StrangeQ: This is removing a child from a lifestyle that is actively promoting anti-social, anti-civilized behavior. The cycle has to be broken somewhere, and since the idiotic thug-life parents in this case were obviously not going to be the ones to do it, someone else had to step in.

Wow, one video and you know things about this kid's lifestyle, his "thug-life parents" and what they were or were not going to do in the future.  That's like if I saw you with your kids at McDonalds and...

Well, forget it, you're a giant idiot, you'd never understand.


Good response, call the person an idiot because they don't agree with you.

I will bet you none of the people in this video have a job or will have a job any time in the near future.  Can I guarantee that?  No, but I think it's a pretty safe assumption. This is another example of people who are nothing more than a drain on society. They won't ever contribute, but they will take.  We will support them through welfare, food stamps and, eventually, pay for their incarceration.  I, for one, am tired of busting my ass working two jobs to help support leaches like this.

Take the kid away, put him in a good foster home with parents who will teach him right from wrong and give him a chance at a happy, successful, productive life.

We will all be better off.
 
2014-01-10 02:14:14 AM

Clint_Torres: scottydoesntknow: Why hasn't CPS stepped in when the parents of this kid let him star in an R-rated movie

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with such quotes as:
My language is English and this mother farker tried to grab my junk.
fark you, Miss Daisy.
Partner in crime. You're my PIC. Just don't cock-block me tonight.

Or this girl:
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with such quotes as:
Okay you coonts... Let's see what you can do now!
I'm just farking with you Daddy! Look, I'd love a Benchmade model 42 butterfly knife.
Show's over, motherfarkers.

Funny, when I did a YouTube™ search for 'swearing toddler, the first result was the video in question...followed by numerous videos of white kids swearing.


Funny, when I watched that video I saw a lot more than simply a "swearing toddler"
 
2014-01-10 03:34:57 AM
How the fark are all of you "They have no right based on making a kid swear, its funny!" people missing the fact that they are clearly telling the kid to "rep his hood"? Is there nothing wrong with gang indoctrination? Should the big bad popo just forget that part?

"thats why you can't fight p*ssy"  --- because it's cool to instill that violence is a good way to handle things, and that the child is somehow inferior if he doesn't fight..

"what hood you from"  "tell 'em deuce nine n*gga" --- Does this not scream gang affiliation/indoctrination to anybody?

"you thuggin' wit yo diaper on" --- well stated, good sir.. teach the kid early on that "thuggin" is funny and acceptable


but stop calling them thugs you dirty racist! only they can describe themselves as such!
 
2014-01-10 05:27:19 AM

untaken_name: zepillin: you could just sing along with the radio while driving to work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlDBi0cyIA">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=GKlDBi0cyIA


Awesome, thanks
 
2014-01-10 09:26:03 AM

Maul555: Mell of a Hess: please: Mell of a Hess: please: I used to live in a very racially mixed and immigrant dominated neighborhood of Detroit.  Whenever I would walk up to the corner store I'd pass a building with a stoop full of diaper wearing black toddlers who would always run inside screaming "white man!  white man!" when I passed by.  Then the mom would glare out the window.  Good times.

/csb

What's the exact difference between "racially mixed" and "very racially mixed"?

You tell me:

Polish 22.9%
Black or African American 15.1%
Yugoslav 10.5%
Arab (Excluding Iraqi and Lebanese) 8.2%
Asian Indian 5.4%
Ukrainian 3.2%
German 2.9%
Albanian 2.8%
Bangladeshi 2.7%
Irish 2.2%
Italian 1.8%
Russia 1.4%
American 1.1%
French (excluding the Basques) 0.8%
Lebanese 0.7%
Scottish 0.7%
Mexican 0.6%
Pakistani 0.6%
Macedonian 0.5%
Iraqi 0.5%

You don't need the "very" - if it's mixed, it's mixed.  If it ain't, it ain't.

Hates the word very, and most other qualifiers.

And, why do the French keep excluding the Basquqes?  Why?

do you also hate the word more?  how about slightly?  do you also think that the word extremely is to be shunned?


Extremely may be the most offensive.  Sorry so late in reply.
 
2014-01-10 12:32:45 PM

Barfmaker: Umm...is everyone a little prissy and prudish or is my moral/ethical compass totally broken?

It just doesn't seem like much of a huge deal to me.


This isn't a moral/prude issue. At a minimum this child has clearly been subjected to horrible verbal abuse, which is emotional abuse which is abuse.  Abuse is a big deal. is it criminal? depends.  Does this lend one to think that other abuses could be occurring? Yes. Normally you wouldn't get involved when a child cusses. This is off the scale, and DYFS should be finding out wtf is going on.

;tldr Yes it is a big deal.
 
2014-01-10 01:42:33 PM

Maul555: Funny, when I watched that video I saw a lot more than simply a "swearing toddler"


Yep. So many people seem unable or unwilling to see past the words themselves, to see the underlying themes and values. This video is damn near an instruction manual for generational poverty and non-participation in society, for teaching their kid violent truculence that will probably keep them "on the street" for the rest of their life.
 
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