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(WMUR New Hampshire)   Police: He was belligerent, resisting. Suspect's Lawyer: That's what your report says, now let's go to the video. FBI, US Attorney: Yeah, let's go to that HOLY FARK. (w/ Video of "belligerence, resisting")   (wmur.com ) divider line
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2014-01-09 09:31:06 AM  
10 votes:
MmmmBacon:
It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.

There should be mandatory badge cameras on all cops and any video footage that is "lost" during an arrest results in the nullification of all charges.

This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable. If I was a cop I'd carry my own camera just to cover my own ass. But then again, I'm not a raging psychopath either.
2014-01-09 09:06:29 AM  
10 votes:
It's amazing the video didn't "mysteriously" disappear.
2014-01-09 09:22:20 AM  
9 votes:

MmmmBacon: sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police

It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.


How about making the paid leave refundable to the taxpayers if and when the cop is found guilty of a serious offense? And how about securing that with a lien on their home and/or automobile to make sure that it's paid back when due?
2014-01-09 08:10:01 AM  
9 votes:
And this is why I don't trust the cops anymore....i'm sure there are good ones out there who do the job and aren't violent sociopaths but....yeah.  still ain't trusting the cops.
2014-01-09 09:07:39 AM  
8 votes:

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: MmmmBacon: sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police

It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.


Could have a preliminary internal review of the complaint to decide their leave status. If a civilian were accused of a similar offense, he'd get a hearing to determine whether he'd be sitting in jail pending trial.


Cops are civilians, just saying. They aren't some special pseudo military protected class. Any farking useless pig farker that tells you different can die in a fire, along with all the crooked asshole pro militarization cops.
2014-01-09 08:33:10 AM  
8 votes:

sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police


It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.
2014-01-09 09:10:20 AM  
7 votes:

MmmmBacon: sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police

It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.


I understand your point however no one outside the police community would be treated that well. They would probably sit in jail while prosecutors can trump up the charges to make sure that what ever plea is reached it greater punishment than if the offender simply went to trial.
2014-01-09 09:10:18 AM  
7 votes:
I've yet in my life to be in a situation where I felt better that a cop showed up, and I've seen some things
2014-01-09 08:46:54 AM  
7 votes:

MmmmBacon: sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police

It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.



Could have a preliminary internal review of the complaint to decide their leave status. If a civilian were accused of a similar offense, he'd get a hearing to determine whether he'd be sitting in jail pending trial.
2014-01-09 09:42:39 AM  
6 votes:
Sighs....as a retired police officer who has taken many people to jail, i can say from seeing the video that this was completely unnecessary. Kid weighed about 130 soaking wet, and from what i saw, he was, at the most, just "maybe" talking shiat. There was no need, none, with 3 huge officers that clearly could have controlled him, to slam him into the wall like that. Prisoners talk shiat, that doesn't give you the right to injure them. There was no need at all to slam him like that, the officer who hurt him should be fired, and jailed for battery, and have to pay the kid damages out of pocket. The officer who maced him should be fired, as it was 1. not needed, and 2. he thought it was funny. This kind of horrible police work shames all good officers everywhere who try to do a good job and treat people with respect. Kid should get a nice fat pay off for this one. And officer brutal should go to prison. Shame on you officers, shame on you, for your lack of control, and brutal treatment of a human being.
2014-01-09 09:41:13 AM  
6 votes:

notatrollorami: I know this is supposed to be a cop hate thread and all, and maybe I'm alone in this and cynical, but based on the comments I read I was underwhelmed by the video. There's plenty of serious police brutality out there; I'm just not sure this rises to the level I'm going to go apeshiat about.


I'm all for defending cops, I do it in the majority of cop hating threads on Fark.com.  But here we have conclusive proof these guys not only stepped over the line but they lied about it on their reports.  So they lost the benefit of the doubt.  Now the question is, what else did those cops do to other people in custody that didn't get caught on video?

You shouldn't be apeshiat about the level of brutality, you should be apeshiat these cops are seemingly doing whatever they want and then falsifying their reports.
2014-01-09 09:09:30 AM  
6 votes:
I suspect that an extensive administrative review will now occur internally within the police department, to determine why the video was not "lost" and to work to make sure that such oversight does not occur in the future.
2014-01-09 08:23:19 AM  
6 votes:
I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police
2014-01-09 10:38:31 AM  
5 votes:

Weaver95: And this is why I don't trust the cops anymore....i'm sure there are good ones out there who do the job and aren't violent sociopaths but....yeah.  still ain't trusting the cops.


The momentary violence is brutal, but there are a number of scary parts to this discussion that, rightfully, back up your mistrust:

- It took over 4 years to get that video from the cops. That occurred in 2009.
- Other cops looked at that video, and decided that no charges should be filed against the asshole who decided that a cinder-block concussion and pepper spraying was the right action for being mouthy to a cop. In fact, other cops decided that nothing, absolutely nothing, should be done about it.
- It took over 4 years to put all three of those assholes on administrative leave, and only because the guy lawyered up.

Bad cops are going to happen - they're human. What should make you distrust cops is that not a single cop, good or bad, stepped up when this happened. As bunner's post put it, if you just allow this clearly illegal act to occur and you don't do anything about it, you, too, are a bad cop. If you can't hold yourself or other cops accountable, you have no business holding anyone else accountable, either.
2014-01-09 09:52:14 AM  
5 votes:
Remeber folks, if you record a cop breaking the law in most states, you are the criminal for wire taping and putting the officers life in danger.
2014-01-09 09:26:07 AM  
5 votes:
The police chief's response to the video:

"Obviously it's a major setback for us."

Jesus Christ.  Way to perfectly summarize what's wrong with police culture in this country.
2014-01-09 09:24:37 AM  
5 votes:

OnlyM3: neongoats

Cops are civilians, just saying. They aren't some special pseudo military protected class. Any farking useless pig farker that tells you different... They absolutely are a protected class. They have dozens of protections from prosecution that Joe-6-pack would never have.


Yeah you can bet your ass that if either of us slammed a cop into a wall that way we'd get a beating and charged with a felony. No paid leave shiat for those of us not in the gang.

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2014-01-09 09:17:49 AM  
5 votes:
neongoats

Cops are civilians, just saying. They aren't some special pseudo military protected class. Any farking useless pig farker that tells you different...
They absolutely are a protected class. They have dozens of protections from prosecution that Joe-6-pack would never have.
2014-01-09 09:17:17 AM  
5 votes:
We don't call them "pigs" for nothing, you know.
2014-01-09 09:54:19 AM  
4 votes:

Mikey1969: Wow... While slamming  him into the wall is bad, THIS part is bullshiat, too:

In the report, Dietenhofer said that Richardson "gained control of Bergeron," saying the teen was later pepper sprayed because he refused to stand up.

Really? "Because he didn't stand up?" Fark you assholes. And for the people here who are police, and who know police, it's people like this who drag that image through the mud. And it's not like this is an isolated incident, who the fark is supporting these pricks? The unions need to do some DEEP soul searching, and start setting up a code of conduct defining who they will and who they won't fight to protect.


/funny you mention that. I always told officers i worked with, or from nearby police departments, that if i was with them on a call, and they farked up a suspect with no valid cause, there is no way, none, that i would lie for them. I would tell anyone who asked that you farked him up for no reason, other than that you were pissed. I never beat a suspect who didn't fight, even if he was a scumbag who needed a good ass kicking.  And if i saw an officer do that to someone without cause, yes, i would report them. In writing. I wanted no part of slapping a suspect around with no legal justification.  THAT..is not our job. No, i wasn't popular, and thats fine. At the end of the day, i could look in the mirror and know i treated people with respect, even if they didn't do the same to me.
2014-01-09 09:54:04 AM  
4 votes:
kroonermanblack:
No one remembers the 4 billion guys doing their job well day to day. Just the 5 guys who commit police brutality.

***But the "4 billion" turn a blind eye to the five committing police brutality.
The "4 billion" protect the five committing police brutality.
The "4 billion" defend the five committing police brutality.
The "4 billion" justify the police brutality.
That does not make them good people. That makes them bad people. Very bad people.
2014-01-09 09:21:09 AM  
4 votes:
Also note that the liberal press refuses to post photos of these thugs, their addresses and other personal info. as they would with commoners accused of crimes.
2014-01-09 09:13:50 AM  
4 votes:

MmmmBacon: would drive good cops out of the profession


I think the preponderance of bad cops already does a very good job of keeping possible rats out of their midst.
2014-01-09 09:11:58 AM  
4 votes:
kushsmoke.com
2014-01-09 09:11:34 AM  
4 votes:

vudukungfu: They slam his head into a wall, pick him up, throw him down, then pepper spray him?
Yeah.


Then stand there smiling, all proud of themselves, while laughing at him.
Scumbags.
2014-01-09 08:13:00 AM  
4 votes:

Weaver95: And this is why I don't trust the cops anymore....i'm sure there are good ones out there who do the job and aren't violent sociopaths but....yeah.  still ain't trusting the cops.


hgh.bz

Welcome to an armed gang of rage junkies.
2014-01-09 07:56:48 AM  
4 votes:

vudukungfu: Whoah
They slam his head into a wall, pick him up, throw him down, then pepper spray him?
Yeah.
I can see they will be getting a harsh punishment of paid leave and no jelly donuts.



You can tell how worried they are about that by the way they grin directly into the camera.
2014-01-09 10:16:16 AM  
3 votes:

Nabb1: That's going to cost the department some money.


You mean the citizens who pay for the department out of their taxes.

Police abuse settlements should be paid for out of the police pension fund, to encourage self-"policing"
2014-01-09 10:00:58 AM  
3 votes:
Let me, if I may, state this plainly

i.imgur.com

Period.

You either uphold the law or you don't.  Ask an honest judge.  This wild west v.2.0 sh*t has got a beard to it's balls and so do your excuses.
2014-01-09 09:47:18 AM  
3 votes:
My annoying one with police happened in Minneapolis. My brother's laptop was stolen, but I had set his laptop so I could remote into it so I could fix it when he broke it. The thief put it on the network and even used my brother's facebook account to taunt him. While he was doing that, I was installing a tracking program on the laptop so it would e-mail me everytime it went online. I then provided the cops with the ISP, MAC and IP of the router and video evidence of the laptop still being used. http://youtu.be/RabAgU35n50?t=47s">http://youtu.be/RabAgU35n50?t=47s​ I went online over and over and over to find the laptop online and being used. So I logged onto it and tried to find the name of the person using it. They were using Facebook. I found several usernames this way. The laptop profile was renamed Preston and one of the facebook logins was Preston Taylor. I looked him up and got a picture. Again, I shared all this with the police. Nothing happened. I started calling the police department daily and he stopped answering my calls and responding to my e-mails. I got one e-mail saying he had better things to do than track down a laptop. Finally, I got a friend from the city council involved. She called in some friends at the police department (This was shortly before the election) and I finally started to get calls back. They finally issued a subpoena and got an address. Then they sat on it again until I raised a ruckus on Facebook explaining what I had done so far. Finally, they went out and got the laptop. Now it's three months since it was stolen and I know the cops have the laptop. Of course, now I get an e-mail saying that they aren't going to prosecute because it's not a felony.

Yeah, the cops are just awesome...
2014-01-09 09:44:20 AM  
3 votes:

notatrollorami: I know this is supposed to be a cop hate thread and all, and maybe I'm alone in this and cynical, but based on the comments I read I was underwhelmed by the video. There's plenty of serious police brutality out there; I'm just not sure this rises to the level I'm going to go apeshiat about.


It happens so often you're becoming desensitized to it,  that's not good.

/Too many of these abuse stories
/They will all one day have to wear camera badges and it'll protect them and us,  from them.
2014-01-09 09:43:42 AM  
3 votes:
Wow... While slamming  him into the wall is bad, THIS part is bullshiat, too:

In the report, Dietenhofer said that Richardson "gained control of Bergeron," saying the teen was later pepper sprayed because he refused to stand up.

Really? "Because he didn't stand up?" Fark you assholes. And for the people here who are police, and who know police, it's people like this who drag that image through the mud. And it's not like this is an isolated incident, who the fark is supporting these pricks? The unions need to do some DEEP soul searching, and start setting up a code of conduct defining who they will and who they won't fight to protect.
2014-01-09 09:43:29 AM  
3 votes:

Chummer45: Jesus Christ.  Way to perfectly summarize what's wrong with police culture in this country.


That and the fact that there's any sort of "culture" to it at all.  Thugs, cops, hipsters, politicians, attorneys... everybody's got their own little dime store closeout excuse for a subculture, but I can't see a single American - as far as what's on that label - amongst the lot of them.  Everybody's got their own little tree house  and everybody else is cutting down trees.  I don't see anybody doing any planting or watering.  Everybody's trying to "get away with sh*t cause they're special".  No, you're not.  Stop that.  You're toxic, useless and full of more sh*t than a congressional subcommittee.
2014-01-09 09:31:21 AM  
3 votes:

internut scholar: You are lucky no one showed up. If the cops had you would have got a citation for the wreck. At least in PA you would have.


Yeah, if I'm in an accident and no other vehicles or people are involved, I don't call the cops.  I call AAA to come tow me.
2014-01-09 09:26:26 AM  
3 votes:
I suspect that an extensive administrative review will now occur internally within the police department, to determine why the video was not "lost" and to work to make sure that such oversight does not occur in the future.

This.

/sadly
// My great-great Grandfather fled across the Atlantic to escape the Kaiser's armies in the 1890s. He didn't think his country owed him anything. I don't think I owe my country anything and I'll flee back across the Atlantic to Germany if it comes to that.
2014-01-09 09:25:11 AM  
3 votes:
Note to the government:

If militarize the domestic police forces, don't be surprised when they treat citizens as the enemy.
2014-01-09 09:24:25 AM  
3 votes:

MmmmBacon: It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession.

***What "good cops?" To some degree they are all bullies, thugs or morons. Even if they aren't beating the crap out of people or murdering unarmed civilians they protect the cops that do. These supposed "good cops" will twist themselves into pretzels to defend, justify and protect the bad ones. Here in Los Angeles, the police chief makes sure to protect the bad ones. And if you are protecting and defending and justifying bad behavior that isn't being a good person.

2014-01-09 09:20:53 AM  
3 votes:

bunner: MmmmBacon: every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession.

Both of them?


Ha!

Lord-Fark-Wad: They would probably sit in jail while prosecutors can trump up the charges to make sure that what ever plea is reached it greater punishment than if the offender simply went to trial.


Resisting arrest. Always a favorite if no other crimes were committed.
2014-01-09 09:20:33 AM  
3 votes:
Bergeron's attorney said video of the incident and police reports "don't square up."

stickerish.com
2014-01-09 09:19:23 AM  
3 votes:

ReverendJasen: vudukungfu: They slam his head into a wall, pick him up, throw him down, then pepper spray him?
Yeah.

Then stand there smiling, all proud of themselves, while laughing at him.
Scumbags.


And if you were to ask them about it, I'll bet they felt they did nothing wrong.
2014-01-09 09:14:32 AM  
3 votes:
This happened to a white boy in the pretty liberal state of New Hampshire, imagine what it's like for black kids somewhere like Bloomberg's New York.
2014-01-09 09:07:43 AM  
3 votes:
F the pigs.
2014-01-09 08:46:16 AM  
3 votes:

MmmmBacon: every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession.


Both of them?
2014-01-09 08:07:28 AM  
3 votes:
www.prosportstickers.com
www.baltimorenewsjournal.com
2014-01-09 07:50:33 AM  
3 votes:
Whoah
They slam his head into a wall, pick him up, throw him down, then pepper spray him?
Yeah.
I can see they will be getting a harsh punishment of paid leave and no jelly donuts.
2014-01-09 11:29:59 AM  
2 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: I wanted no part of slapping a suspect around with no legal justification.  THAT..is not our job. No, i wasn't popular, and thats fine. At the end of the day, i could look in the mirror and know i treated people with respect, even if they didn't do the same to me.


Funny, because last month you wrote about administering "street justice" to "anyone really that is a farking asshole."
2014-01-09 09:40:17 AM  
2 votes:

OnlyM3: neongoats

Cops are civilians, just saying. They aren't some special pseudo military protected class. Any farking useless pig farker that tells you different... They absolutely are a protected class. They have dozens of protections from prosecution that Joe-6-pack would never have.


They also have other special laws and protections that pertain to them.  You can beat up your neighbor for blaring loud music at 2 AM (for example) and get maybe a few months in jail...probably just probation and a fine or something.   You beat up a COP for doing the same thing and you're royally screwed.

Lord-Fark-Wad: They would probably sit in jail while prosecutors can trump up the charges to make sure that what ever plea is reached it greater punishment than if the offender simply went to trial.


Up here, if you don't accept a plea deal and try to take it to trial, they put the screws to you and try to find other charges to hit you with.

A justice system we do not have.  It's barely even a legal system.  It's a freakin' business model.  I wonder if Maine has any for-profit prisons in it...

/I believe the prisoners in Warren make furniture for sale...
2014-01-09 09:37:54 AM  
2 votes:

sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police


Union rules.
2014-01-09 09:35:38 AM  
2 votes:

Dharma Bumstead: MmmmBacon: It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession.

***What "good cops?" To some degree they are all bullies, thugs or morons. Even if they aren't beating the crap out of people or murdering unarmed civilians they protect the cops that do. These supposed "good cops" will twist themselves into pretzels to defend, justify and protect the bad ones. Here in Los Angeles, the police chief makes sure to protect the bad ones. And if you are protecting and defending and justifying bad behavior that isn't being a good person.


Eh, no. I can vouch for the existence of one good cop. A friend of mine from college. He got reprimanded by the Peoria, IL police force for refusing to rough up a black suspect as a rookie. So he quit there and went to a small town where he was the interim police chief for a while. He's a good, solid guy.
2014-01-09 09:31:09 AM  
2 votes:

orclover: In other news: PUT ON A farkING BELT!


Thankfully I don't know this firsthand but pretty sure they take your belt when you are put into custody
2014-01-09 09:30:16 AM  
2 votes:

Nabb1: That's going to cost the department some money.


Don't think the Department will be footing any of the lawsuit settlement, the taxpayers of Seabrook may experience a rise in their property tax assessments though.
2014-01-09 09:29:55 AM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: And this is why I don't trust the cops anymore


You lack proper historical education.

Cops have ALWAYS been like this. In fact, they were much nicer to this guy than they would have been in the 30s when they'd just gun his ass down in his car and call it a victory.
2014-01-09 09:18:58 AM  
2 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: I've yet in my life to be in a situation where I felt better that a cop showed up, and I've seen some things


I totaled my car the othe day. It came to rest in the middle of the highway, at night, on icy roads, and the lights/electrical system were destroyed by the wreck. I would have felt better had a cop showed up right about then as I was waving oncoming traffic down with only the light of my phone.

And wouldn't you know it? Nobody showed up, even after calling 911.

/thankfully a wrecker just happened to come along about 15 minutes later
2014-01-09 09:06:11 AM  
2 votes:
New Hampshire? Live free or die trying
2014-01-09 03:23:26 PM  
1 vote:

MyRandomName: lennavan: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Every time a cop pull someone over they are NOT risking their life. If the person in the car is a dangerous felon with a gun then maybe they are, but otherwise when they pull over John Q Citizen for rolling through a red light, then they most certainly are not risking their life.

Agreed.  I'm a cop and I just pulled someone over.  I'm posting from my iPhone.  Is the guy in front of me a felon with a gun who just stole a car and it hasn't been reported yet, or is it John Q Citizen.  I need to know ASAP, thanks.

Oh wait, you don't know?  You have no farking clue and the only way I will know is AFTER I get out of the car and start talking with them?  Well then you realize I'm taking a risk by walking up to that car, right?

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: I remember here in Boston that all the cops were HERO's after the marathon bombing. Reality is that they locked down a whole town, a campus cop was killed by the suspects, one brother ran over the other and a private citizen found the other brother in his boat in the backyard. Yeah....real heroes.

Hey, I just got a call on my police radio.  Two guys just shot and killed a cop, bombed major public area killing 3 people and injuring hundreds more.  They stole a car, some other cops chased them and they all got into a big gunfight, the kind like you see in the movies and shiat.  The guys were actually throwing "crude grenades" and another bomb at those cops.  During that, one of the guys was shot and killed but the other one hopped back into the SUV and drove away, actually running over the other guy's body.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the second guy is in that house right there.  I'd go knock on the door but it's no big deal, I mean clearly you wouldn't be risking your life by doing it so I'm hoping you'll do it for me while I get to the more dangerous stuff.

Thanks.

By your definition every retail worker isa hero as well . How do they know their customers are not armed sociopaths?


Hell, by that definition, I'm a hero just for driving to work every day.  How do I know that I'm not going to be run off the road by some idiot?
2014-01-09 03:20:20 PM  
1 vote:

lennavan: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Every time a cop pull someone over they are NOT risking their life. If the person in the car is a dangerous felon with a gun then maybe they are, but otherwise when they pull over John Q Citizen for rolling through a red light, then they most certainly are not risking their life.

Agreed.  I'm a cop and I just pulled someone over.  I'm posting from my iPhone.  Is the guy in front of me a felon with a gun who just stole a car and it hasn't been reported yet, or is it John Q Citizen.  I need to know ASAP, thanks.

Oh wait, you don't know?  You have no farking clue and the only way I will know is AFTER I get out of the car and start talking with them?  Well then you realize I'm taking a risk by walking up to that car, right?

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: I remember here in Boston that all the cops were HERO's after the marathon bombing. Reality is that they locked down a whole town, a campus cop was killed by the suspects, one brother ran over the other and a private citizen found the other brother in his boat in the backyard. Yeah....real heroes.

Hey, I just got a call on my police radio.  Two guys just shot and killed a cop, bombed major public area killing 3 people and injuring hundreds more.  They stole a car, some other cops chased them and they all got into a big gunfight, the kind like you see in the movies and shiat.  The guys were actually throwing "crude grenades" and another bomb at those cops.  During that, one of the guys was shot and killed but the other one hopped back into the SUV and drove away, actually running over the other guy's body.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the second guy is in that house right there.  I'd go knock on the door but it's no big deal, I mean clearly you wouldn't be risking your life by doing it so I'm hoping you'll do it for me while I get to the more dangerous stuff.

Thanks.


By your definition every retail worker isa hero as well . How do they know their customers are not armed sociopaths?
2014-01-09 02:50:30 PM  
1 vote:

notatrollorami: I know this is supposed to be a cop hate thread and all, and maybe I'm alone in this and cynical, but based on the comments I read I was underwhelmed by the video. There's plenty of serious police brutality out there; I'm just not sure this rises to the level I'm going to go apeshiat about.



The only time i would back a zero tolerance policy would be about police abuses, they have way too much power over the average citizen to not be held up to a higher standard.

/cops should be paladins
2014-01-09 01:55:00 PM  
1 vote:

Carousel Beast: La Maudite: The cops are supposed to be the ones keeping everyone else in line. We need to stop letting them get away with this shiat. But walking around with an "all cops are bad" attitude doesn't help anybody... and you're going to feel pretty stupid when the day comes that you really need them.

That day came for me. I called 911 to report domestic violence. The cops arrived, heard both sides, saw my injuries, had her confession to starting everything and causing said injuries, and they reacted promptly and professionally by arresting me.


When I was 12, my mother went into a drunken rage and started beating me with a large stick. My dad, also drunk (they were pretty much always drunk) tried to stop her, and she pulled off one of her high heels and started beating him in the head with it, tearing a large gash in his scalp. The sight of the blood pouring down his face freaked her out and she ran upstairs and locked herself in their bedroom. He called 911. They sent police and paramedics, and while the paramedics got the bleeding under control, the cops interviewed both my parents.

My mother claimed my dad fell in the bathroom and hit his head on the toilet. My dad didn't want to say anything at all, but I handed them the bloody shoe and told them what happened. I'm pretty sure they believed me, because my little brother and I got to ride in the ambulance with our dad rather than being left home with our mother. Nobody got arrested. My dad declined to file charges, but they contacted social services and we were all required to go to family counseling for three months. Not that it did any good, because my mother is a consummate liar and my dad loved her too much to say a word against her. The whole time I was growing up he never once did anything to hurt her. One night I remember her throwing an entire set of dishes at him one at a time. He just folded his arms, stood there, and took it.

Since I wasn't there when you called the cops, I don't know what happened or what either of you said to them or how either of you behaved. I do know that 35 years ago, domestic abuse of men by women was something that wasn't even talked about, but the cops who responded obviously saw what was going on at my house and handled it the right way. I'm sorry they didn't handle your situation as well. Unfortunately, most people still don't really take female-on-male violence seriously. I hope you ended that relationship, because that shiat is never acceptable under any circumstances, period.

So thanks, but I'll weight my experience over your appeal to emotion, and especially over this bit of drivel:

La Maudite: Given the choice between being hassled by a cop for no reason and really *needing* the cops, I'll take the hassle any day.

WTF are you, 10? There's no excuse for hassling, period.


I didn't say there was an excuse for it. I said that given the choice between *needing* the cops and being hassled by them, I'd prefer the hassle. Obviously the cops shouldn't be hassling people for no reason, but any situation where you really need the cops is a hell of a lot shiattier.
2014-01-09 01:16:00 PM  
1 vote:

La Maudite: The cops are supposed to be the ones keeping everyone else in line. We need to stop letting them get away with this shiat. But walking around with an "all cops are bad" attitude doesn't help anybody... and you're going to feel pretty stupid when the day comes that you really need them.


We have no ability to stop them getting away from it.  Cops are held to a lower standard regarding the law and have protections that "regular" people do not.  It should be the other way around.  If a cop breaks a public trust the consequences should be worse.  If you get into a fight at a club and punch someone, most likely nothing will end up happening.  If that someone is a cop, you have now assaulted an officer and are looking at probable jail time, despite the fact the cop was not on duty, nor in uniform.
2014-01-09 01:09:25 PM  
1 vote:

Bit'O'Gristle: /you have to understand. Put yourself in an officers position. Nobody likes you, nobody wants to see you in the rear view mirror, unless you called them for help.  All you see, every day, is brutality by people to one another, drunks that want to fight, drug users that abuse their kids, spouses. Murders and rapes, child molestations.  You get the picture. Add to that, that everyone is watching you, and hoping that you do something wrong so they can sue. Courts, citizens, your other officers, and the brass. All have their eyes on what you're doing, and how your doing it. After so many years of this, one tends to become hard, jaded. You have to, just to survive.  And it is possible to be a good cop through all this, but...it is difficult. We are the product of our environment, and it shapes you after so many years. Everyone lies to you, and you can't trust anyone.  Think of all that, before you say its "power" that makes cops "bad". Its not that, its what they have to go through and see every day.


And this is why I'm always polite and cooperative with cops. These guys have a dangerous, stressful job that's critical to their communities, and all day long they take shiat from people, most of whom hate cops not because they've ever personally had a bad experience, but because it was cool to hate cops when they were teenagers and they never quite grew out of it. Be nice to the cops, and most of the time, they will be nice to you, because it will make their whole day to deal with someone who's not full of shiat.

And for those of you who are never happy to see the cops, let me tell you, you're pretty damned lucky if you've never been in a situation where you were happy to see the cops. Given the choice between being hassled by a cop for no reason and really *needing* the cops, I'll take the hassle any day. I was about 12 the first time I was happy to see the cops. I was 14 the first time I had to call them myself. Think about that, and consider how farking lucky you are.

Do some cops do bad things? Yes, and even good cops have bad days where they lose their temper and cross the line. Is the system for dealing with it broken? Absolutely. It needs to be fixed so that cops like the ones in that video get the punishment they deserve, because for most people -- not just cops -- it's the fear of consequences that keeps them in line, not some innate sense of morality. I know we'd all like to believe that cops should be better than the rest of us, and in an ideal world they would be, but we don't live in that world. We live in reality, where most people are shiatbags who won't think twice about lying, cheating, stealing, or worse if they think they can get away with it.

The cops are supposed to be the ones keeping everyone else in line. We need to stop letting them get away with this shiat. But walking around with an "all cops are bad" attitude doesn't help anybody... and you're going to feel pretty stupid when the day comes that you really need them.
2014-01-09 11:54:14 AM  
1 vote:
 "Put yourself in an officers position. Nobody likes you, nobody wants to see you in the rear view mirror"

That is exactly how the French described the occupying Germans.
2014-01-09 11:43:56 AM  
1 vote:

neongoats: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: MmmmBacon: sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police

It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.


Could have a preliminary internal review of the complaint to decide their leave status. If a civilian were accused of a similar offense, he'd get a hearing to determine whether he'd be sitting in jail pending trial.

Cops are civilians, just saying. They aren't some special pseudo military protected class. Any farking useless pig farker that tells you different can die in a fire, along with all the crooked asshole pro militarization cops.


I know, right.

www.newyorker.com

Oh wait...
2014-01-09 11:09:02 AM  
1 vote:

Bit'O'Gristle: xanadian: internut scholar: A friend of mine is a Trooper. He told me that unless you are dead, you are getting a citation in any wreck. And he has no choice, it's mandated to him. Not sure if other troops in PA follow the same procedures but that's his.

Gotta keep that revenue flowing...

My "bad" cop to good cop encounter ratio is something like 1:4.  One cop I knew was my landlord, and was a major dick.  Used his position to evict me because fark you, that's why (paid my rent on time, and everything else...he just wanted the house back so HE could live there).  The other one wrote me a ticket for something I didn't do, because fark you, that's why (got the ticket thrown out, though).  Granted, NONE of this amounts to what's in the video.  The other encounters with cops were either thoroughly professional (one legitimately caught me speeding, but brought the offense down...guess he was having a good day or something), or I know them personally and they're good people.  But still.  Out of every 5 cops I've known or encountered, 1 was a dick.  I don't have that kind of a ratio with people in any other profession.  Not even the military.

Something about having power just seems to screw with people's heads.  And/or, a position of power is a great attractor for the sociopaths and egotists.

Ghastly: ReverendJasen: Ghastly: This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable.

The technology is available.  Police unions won't let it happen.  Hell, they fought tooth and nail just to keep GPS tracking out of the cars in at least one district.

Make it a federal law and they'll have no choice but to let it happen.

There are a few cities out there that are already doing badge cameras.  I think it's an awesome idea.  Protects *everybody*.

/you have to understand. Put yourself in an officers position. No ...


oh please what a bunch of BS. A large majority of officers are sitting in cruisers doing traffic enforcement and are not rubbing elbows with the dregs of society every farking day. You know how I know you are full of it ? Because there are as many or more police dept in towns that have almost no violent crime etc. Sure maybe in a big city officers are seeing the worst of the worst but the vast majority of cops are working in depts with little or no crime and very little threat to officer safety.

They simply escalate because they can. They know there is really no check on what they do in the field. The Depts and unions ALWAYS back the officer no matter what. Even when what the cop did was blatant they use terms like "Aggressive Stance" or any number of completely fabricated situationals to explain away an officers illegal conduct. Everyone hates you for a reason. There is ZERO accountability for police officers. They have to kill someone and even then they usually walk.

People join the force knowing EXACTLY how their fellow citizens feel about their profession. They bought their ticket etc etc
2014-01-09 11:08:55 AM  
1 vote:

yves0010: By my understanding, I thought this is illegal as my new city council woman is a wife of a cop and she voted on this issue meaning she had personal gain in it or could be a bought vote in a  way.


Are you implying, sirrah, that there are those amongst the thick and mind legions of civil servants in our bureaucracies who would resort to disingenuous and manipulative illegalities in order to vote themselves largess out of the treasury?  I am flabbergasted, sir.
2014-01-09 10:51:32 AM  
1 vote:
Bit'O'Gristle:

/you have to understand. Put yourself in an officers position. Nobody likes you, nobody wants to see you in the rear view mirror, unless you called them for help.  All you see, every day, is brutality by people to one another, drunks that want to fight, drug users that abuse their kids, spouses. Murders and rapes, child molestations.  You get the picture. Add to that, that everyone is watching you, and hoping that you do something wrong so they can sue. Courts, citizens, your other officers, and the brass. All have their eyes on what you're doing, and how your doing it. After so many years of this, one tends to become hard, jaded. You have to, just to survive.  And it is possible to be a good cop through all this, but...it is difficult. We are the product of our environment, and it shapes you after so many years. Everyone lies to you, and you can't trust anyone.  Think of all that, before you say its "power" that makes cops "bad". Its not that, its what they have to go through and see every day.

***And this is an argument that I have lost patience with.
If the job is so horrible, if it puts you into contact with bad people and life-threatening situations; if you are dealing on a daily basis with the scum of the earth who dare lie to you, here's a bit of advice - change careers. Otherwise man up, grow a pair, don't be a pu**y and don't whine like some 6-year-old girl about the brutality you see. It's the life you've chosen, deal with it or get out.
Nobody forces someone into law enforcement. No one puts a gun to someone's head and says, "Go be a cop." (If anything, it's the cop putting a gun to some poor civilian schmuck's head because that is what they do.)
But people get into law enforcement not because they want to "help" people (the lie they tell themselves and others) but because deep down they are bullies and thugs. A law enforcement job allows them to be paid to be a bully and thug; they get to carry a gun and wear a badge and are protected by other officers, their chief, and their union. They engage in bad behavior because they know they will get away with it.
2014-01-09 10:19:49 AM  
1 vote:

MyRandomName: sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police

Union rules.


Well fark tha police union too! Until they throw cops that do this kind of shiat under the bus they are part of the problem. Only a giant pussy that hides behind a gun and a badge does the kind of crap in the video. Only a POS defends it.
2014-01-09 10:18:37 AM  
1 vote:

Pangea: Nabb1: That's going to cost the department some money.

You mean the citizens who pay for the department out of their taxes.

Police abuse settlements should be paid for out of the police pension fund, to encourage self-"policing"


And all cops should have to pay for their own malpractice/brutality insurance, rather than the cost of their malfeasance being shouldered by taxpayers.
2014-01-09 10:17:52 AM  
1 vote:

xanadian: internut scholar: A friend of mine is a Trooper. He told me that unless you are dead, you are getting a citation in any wreck. And he has no choice, it's mandated to him. Not sure if other troops in PA follow the same procedures but that's his.

Gotta keep that revenue flowing...

My "bad" cop to good cop encounter ratio is something like 1:4.  One cop I knew was my landlord, and was a major dick.  Used his position to evict me because fark you, that's why (paid my rent on time, and everything else...he just wanted the house back so HE could live there).  The other one wrote me a ticket for something I didn't do, because fark you, that's why (got the ticket thrown out, though).  Granted, NONE of this amounts to what's in the video.  The other encounters with cops were either thoroughly professional (one legitimately caught me speeding, but brought the offense down...guess he was having a good day or something), or I know them personally and they're good people.  But still.  Out of every 5 cops I've known or encountered, 1 was a dick.  I don't have that kind of a ratio with people in any other profession.  Not even the military.

Something about having power just seems to screw with people's heads.  And/or, a position of power is a great attractor for the sociopaths and egotists.

Ghastly: ReverendJasen: Ghastly: This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable.

The technology is available.  Police unions won't let it happen.  Hell, they fought tooth and nail just to keep GPS tracking out of the cars in at least one district.

Make it a federal law and they'll have no choice but to let it happen.

There are a few cities out there that are already doing badge cameras.  I think it's an awesome idea.  Protects *everybody*.


/you have to understand. Put yourself in an officers position. Nobody likes you, nobody wants to see you in the rear view mirror, unless you called them for help.  All you see, every day, is brutality by people to one another, drunks that want to fight, drug users that abuse their kids, spouses. Murders and rapes, child molestations.  You get the picture. Add to that, that everyone is watching you, and hoping that you do something wrong so they can sue. Courts, citizens, your other officers, and the brass. All have their eyes on what you're doing, and how your doing it. After so many years of this, one tends to become hard, jaded. You have to, just to survive.  And it is possible to be a good cop through all this, but...it is difficult. We are the product of our environment, and it shapes you after so many years. Everyone lies to you, and you can't trust anyone.  Think of all that, before you say its "power" that makes cops "bad". Its not that, its what they have to go through and see every day.
2014-01-09 10:14:03 AM  
1 vote:

darlid01: Of course, now I get an e-mail saying that they aren't going to prosecute because it's not a felony.


Odd.  Speeding tickets aren't felonies either, but they seem willing to prosecute those.

Is there no sort of malfeasance for district attorneys who won't prosecute lawbreakers?
2014-01-09 10:11:46 AM  
1 vote:

internut scholar: A friend of mine is a Trooper. He told me that unless you are dead, you are getting a citation in any wreck. And he has no choice, it's mandated to him. Not sure if other troops in PA follow the same procedures but that's his.


Gotta keep that revenue flowing...

My "bad" cop to good cop encounter ratio is something like 1:4.  One cop I knew was my landlord, and was a major dick.  Used his position to evict me because fark you, that's why (paid my rent on time, and everything else...he just wanted the house back so HE could live there).  The other one wrote me a ticket for something I didn't do, because fark you, that's why (got the ticket thrown out, though).  Granted, NONE of this amounts to what's in the video.  The other encounters with cops were either thoroughly professional (one legitimately caught me speeding, but brought the offense down...guess he was having a good day or something), or I know them personally and they're good people.  But still.  Out of every 5 cops I've known or encountered, 1 was a dick.  I don't have that kind of a ratio with people in any other profession.  Not even the military.

Something about having power just seems to screw with people's heads.  And/or, a position of power is a great attractor for the sociopaths and egotists.

Ghastly: ReverendJasen: Ghastly: This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable.

The technology is available.  Police unions won't let it happen.  Hell, they fought tooth and nail just to keep GPS tracking out of the cars in at least one district.

Make it a federal law and they'll have no choice but to let it happen.


There are a few cities out there that are already doing badge cameras.  I think it's an awesome idea.  Protects *everybody*.
2014-01-09 10:11:36 AM  
1 vote:
We need to raise the education level needed to be a cop.  It won't eliminate the brutality but it might keep some of the troglodytes out.
2014-01-09 10:10:51 AM  
1 vote:

Nana's Vibrator: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs....as a retired police officer who has taken many people to jail, i can say from seeing the video that this was completely unnecessary. Kid weighed about 130 soaking wet, and from what i saw, he was, at the most, just "maybe" talking shiat. There was no need, none, with 3 huge officers that clearly could have controlled him, to slam him into the wall like that. Prisoners talk shiat, that doesn't give you the right to injure them. There was no need at all to slam him like that, the officer who hurt him should be fired, and jailed for battery, and have to pay the kid damages out of pocket. The officer who maced him should be fired, as it was 1. not needed, and 2. he thought it was funny. This kind of horrible police work shames all good officers everywhere who try to do a good job and treat people with respect. Kid should get a nice fat pay off for this one. And officer brutal should go to prison. Shame on you officers, shame on you, for your lack of control, and brutal treatment of a human being.

I'd go ahead and say he most definitely was talking shiat; and I'm sure you would agree that he was probably talking shiat from the second he was pulled over until he fell asleep that night; and I'd stop at just "maybe" he has a prior relationship with legal trouble.  I'm guessing that officer probably gave the kid what he thought was a little arm twist like he probably had done 100 times before, but didn't account for how tiny that kid is.  And I agree 100% that they don't have the right to assault anyone; he should lose his job.

I'd be curious to know for how many of these pop up, how many incidents are there of talking as much as this kid and tempting the officer(s) into assaulting them, but the officer(s) just ignore it and move on.  It has to be somewhere around 99%


/Man, if i had one dollar for every time some shiat heel mouthed off to me, i would be on a beach  in Jamaica earning 10 percent on my cash. You ignore it, and yes..its difficult, but i looked at it this way, he's going to jail, im going home. I win. Why rise to his trolling?
2014-01-09 10:10:51 AM  
1 vote:
These particular cops were very threatened by this young man and feared for their safety. They put their lives on the line every day dealing with hardened, violent criminals like this. They have wives and children who depend on them. These men are True Americans. If you criticize them, you are scum and are committing treason.

i.imgur.com
2014-01-09 10:05:37 AM  
1 vote:

Prey4reign: Come on people.  The police "violence" was no worse than what goes on at most fraternity hazings.  Looked like a group of older people introducing a younger person into the real world.


How many fraternities do you know of who bring along "throwdown" weapons for when they shoot unarmed suspects?

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.law-enforcement/v962yVOb jw s
2014-01-09 10:01:43 AM  
1 vote:

lennavan: notatrollorami: I know this is supposed to be a cop hate thread and all, and maybe I'm alone in this and cynical, but based on the comments I read I was underwhelmed by the video. There's plenty of serious police brutality out there; I'm just not sure this rises to the level I'm going to go apeshiat about.

I'm all for defending cops, I do it in the majority of cop hating threads on Fark.com.  But here we have conclusive proof these guys not only stepped over the line but they lied about it on their reports.  So they lost the benefit of the doubt.  Now the question is, what else did those cops do to other people in custody that didn't get caught on video?

You shouldn't be apeshiat about the level of brutality, you should be apeshiat these cops are seemingly doing whatever they want and then falsifying their reports.


A valid point and well taken.
2014-01-09 10:00:14 AM  
1 vote:

jakomo002: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs....as a retired police officer who has taken many people to jail, i can say from seeing the video that this was completely unnecessary. Kid weighed about 130 soaking wet, and from what i saw, he was, at the most, just "maybe" talking shiat. There was no need, none, with 3 huge officers that clearly could have controlled him, to slam him into the wall like that. Prisoners talk shiat, that doesn't give you the right to injure them. There was no need at all to slam him like that, the officer who hurt him should be fired, and jailed for battery, and have to pay the kid damages out of pocket. The officer who maced him should be fired, as it was 1. not needed, and 2. he thought it was funny. This kind of horrible police work shames all good officers everywhere who try to do a good job and treat people with respect. Kid should get a nice fat pay off for this one. And officer brutal should go to prison. Shame on you officers, shame on you, for your lack of control, and brutal treatment of a human being

I agree with everything here except the jail time.  It should be far longer, since they abused their positions of authority AND they lied about it.

The fact that there's more than one means there was either a conspiracy to cover it up OR all involved actually approved of this conduct.

10 years and banned from any job of authority or one necessitating carrying any weapons.


/It's not really a "conspiracy", but more a "cover your brothers ass".  And ..."circle the wagons" by the police dept. Not that they care, but at this point, they are looking at a PR nightmare, and are trying to do damage control.  So you will get the canned "PR" speech by the chief about 'we are looking carefully at the situation, blah blah blah" which translates into 'holy fark, my officers are farking morons and i hope i get to keep my job". And yes, he should be jailed because there is a certain trust that you are given as a police officer, and he abused it by his horrible treatment of a unresisting suspect.
2014-01-09 09:57:33 AM  
1 vote:

neongoats: They aren't some special pseudo military protected class.


errr...huh?  They're very much a protected class.
2014-01-09 09:55:32 AM  
1 vote:

Heliovdrake: Remeber folks, if you record a cop breaking the law in most states, you are the criminal for wire taping and putting the officers life in danger.


Yeah, I guess being a street corner thug in front millions of people might be a good way to get your ass handed to you.  Unless, of course, you're actually a non-commissioned criminal.  Cops and criminals are the biggest mutual ass kissing society in America.  You?  F*ck you.  You don't count.
2014-01-09 09:55:25 AM  
1 vote:

ReverendJasen: Ghastly: This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable.

The technology is available.  Police unions won't let it happen.  Hell, they fought tooth and nail just to keep GPS tracking out of the cars in at least one district.


Make it a federal law and they'll have no choice but to let it happen.
2014-01-09 09:52:41 AM  
1 vote:

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs....as a retired police officer who has taken many people to jail, i can say from seeing the video that this was completely unnecessary. Kid weighed about 130 soaking wet, and from what i saw, he was, at the most, just "maybe" talking shiat. There was no need, none, with 3 huge officers that clearly could have controlled him, to slam him into the wall like that. Prisoners talk shiat, that doesn't give you the right to injure them. There was no need at all to slam him like that, the officer who hurt him should be fired, and jailed for battery, and have to pay the kid damages out of pocket. The officer who maced him should be fired, as it was 1. not needed, and 2. he thought it was funny. This kind of horrible police work shames all good officers everywhere who try to do a good job and treat people with respect. Kid should get a nice fat pay off for this one. And officer brutal should go to prison. Shame on you officers, shame on you, for your lack of control, and brutal treatment of a human being


I agree with everything here except the jail time.  It should be far longer, since they abused their positions of authority AND they lied about it.

The fact that there's more than one means there was either a conspiracy to cover it up OR all involved actually approved of this conduct.

10 years and banned from any job of authority or one necessitating carrying any weapons.
2014-01-09 09:45:04 AM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: And this is why I don't trust the cops anymore....i'm sure there are good ones out there who do the job and aren't violent sociopaths but....yeah.  still ain't trusting the cops.


You have to remember it's the squeaky wheel AND confirmation bias issue here.

You expect x, and the only reports that get remembered are the egregious ones which further confirms your bias, repeat.

No one remembers the 4 billion guys doing their job well day to day. Just the 5 guys who commit police brutality.

Doesn't excuse this or the coverup behavior.
2014-01-09 09:38:00 AM  
1 vote:

notatrollorami: I know this is supposed to be a cop hate thread and all, and maybe I'm alone in this and cynical, but based on the comments I read I was underwhelmed by the video. There's plenty of serious police brutality out there; I'm just not sure this rises to the level I'm going to go apeshiat about.


You're just more submissive and prone to authority than others in the thread, the world has all kinds.
2014-01-09 09:36:53 AM  
1 vote:

Headso: orclover: In other news: PUT ON A farkING BELT!

Thankfully I don't know this firsthand but pretty sure they take your belt when you are put into custody


Even for littering.
2014-01-09 09:35:39 AM  
1 vote:

notatrollorami: I know this is supposed to be a cop hate thread and all, and maybe I'm alone in this and cynical, but based on the comments I read I was underwhelmed by the video. There's plenty of serious police brutality out there; I'm just not sure this rises to the level I'm going to go apeshiat about.


Not sure apeshiat is the response that they are seeking. Notice how the FBI is involved. Sounds like civil rights violations are on the table.
2014-01-09 09:35:04 AM  
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Ghastly: This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable.


The technology is available.  Police unions won't let it happen.  Hell, they fought tooth and nail just to keep GPS tracking out of the cars in at least one district.
2014-01-09 09:33:51 AM  
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vudukungfu: Whoah
They slam his head into a wall, pick him up, throw him down, then pepper spray him?
Yeah.
I can see they will be getting a harsh punishment of paid leave and no jelly donuts.


A good explanation of the logic/legal reasoning behind paid leave http://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/1s01lr/most_common_m y th/cdslvma
Paid leave isn't the punishment, its taking them off the street while the investigation is happening. Also there is an issue of special Miranda issues dealing with police.
Read the link its eye opening.
2014-01-09 09:32:05 AM  
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Deep Contact: He probably needed a little asss kicking. Punk.


And had some other punk roughly his tiny size kicked his ass, no one would be griping about it.
2014-01-09 09:31:04 AM  
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OnlyM3: Also note that the liberal press refuses to post photos of these thugs, their addresses and other personal info. as they would with commoners accused of crimes.


There's the stupid derp I was waiting for. Thanks for not letting us down.
2014-01-09 09:29:46 AM  
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That police chief looks like an @sshole too.
2014-01-09 09:28:48 AM  
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News 9 attempted to reach the three officers at home Wednesday. Laurent was the only one to answer the door, and he had no comment.


Yeahhhh.

In their homes.  Good stuff.  Cower in fear, scumbags.  Should have shot video of that.
2014-01-09 09:26:10 AM  
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Deep Contact: He probably needed a little asss kicking. Punk.


"ass kicking" implies he has the ability to fight back, that was more like torture.
2014-01-09 09:26:06 AM  
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Weaver95: And if you were to ask them about it, I'll bet they felt they did nothing wrong.


Of course not!  That kid was the real scumbag, and he deserved every second of his abuse.  All us "civilians" are just criminals anyway, they just need to figure out what our crime is.
2014-01-09 09:25:40 AM  
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He deserved a good beating for wearing his pants like that. The pepper spray might have been a bit much.
2014-01-09 09:21:31 AM  
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phyrkrakr: FTFA: Following a special meeting of town officials Wednesday, Chief Lee Bitomske said that Bergeron had requested and received the videos after his 2009 arrest. "Why they're surfacing now, I cannot answer that," Bitomske said.
...
There is no clear indication in court paperwork of how the DWI charge was resolved.

So...what's the statute of limitations on a DWI in New Hampshire?


paulpalubicki.files.wordpress.com
2014-01-09 09:15:45 AM  
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www.upl.co

They're heroes!


Cameras everywhere have dis-proven dozens of myths, from Alien encounters, to bigfood, to "people lie about police brutality"
2014-01-09 08:25:55 AM  
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That's going to cost the department some money.
 
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