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(WMUR New Hampshire)   Police: He was belligerent, resisting. Suspect's Lawyer: That's what your report says, now let's go to the video. FBI, US Attorney: Yeah, let's go to that HOLY FARK. (w/ Video of "belligerence, resisting")   (wmur.com) divider line 254
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2014-01-09 10:54:24 AM  

maram500: I've known some good cops--some good, honest, actually fun-to-be-around cops--but there are bad cops in this world.

CSB: Back when I was an undergrad in college, I knew the majority of the campus police (who, incidentally, were technically members of the state police force and carried the state police badge despite identifying themselves as campus police). I was on a first-name basis with five or six of them, and on one memorable occasion they let me handcuff a friend of mine outside the student union just because it was a slow day. I even gave the standard Miranda warning. Those were good cops--the bad ones on campus were always seen drinking coffee in the back of the library while shenanigans were going on outside.

I have no idea why the cops said no when I asked to borrow a Taser.

/Same cops let me screw around in a marked cruiser
//Wanted to be a university cop for a while


Campus cop for a state university (and like in your story, must university police are actual state cops whereas a private university will usually have 'security' or rent-a-cops) would be a pretty sweet gig as long as you had decent leadership and aren't a dick. Seriously, campuses are generally pretty quiet places day in and day out.

Most of the time you'll be dealing with drunk kids or people running stop signs. Maybe a shoplifter at the bookstore, property thefts, so mostly minor crap. Really, if you want to be chill most of the time and don't feel the need to be a dick, university cop would be a great job.

Unfortunately, sometimes the university PD will end up with one guys like the ones in the video, and then they wonder why nobody respects them at all.
 
2014-01-09 10:54:50 AM  

Dharma Bumstead: They engage in bad behavior because they know they will get away with it.


And that's why education is so important and needs to change.

Allow me to offer some education.

"Hey, dumbass.  You're gonna die one day and if they install a urinal and a dance floor on your grave, it's on you."

See how invaluable education is when contemplating "getting away" with things?
 
2014-01-09 11:00:11 AM  

bunner: Prey4reign: Come on people.  The police "violence" was no worse than what goes on at most fraternity hazings.  Looked like a group of older people introducing a younger person into the real world.

-63457638645746/10  Seriously.


And yet ...

monoski: Prey4reign: Come on people.  The police "violence" was no worse than what goes on at most fraternity hazings.  Looked like a group of older people introducing a younger person into the real world.

How many fraternities do you know of who bring along "throwdown" weapons for when they shoot unarmed suspects?

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.law-enforcement/v962yVOb jw s


Oh yeah, and fark these police with rusty garden weasels.
 
Ant
2014-01-09 11:00:19 AM  

Mikey1969: Wow... While slamming  him into the wall is bad, THIS part is bullshiat, too:

In the report, Dietenhofer said that Richardson "gained control of Bergeron," saying the teen was later pepper sprayed because he refused to stand up.

Really? "Because he didn't stand up?" Fark you assholes. And for the people here who are police, and who know police, it's people like this who drag that image through the mud. And it's not like this is an isolated incident, who the fark is supporting these pricks? The unions need to do some DEEP soul searching, and start setting up a code of conduct defining who they will and who they won't fight to protect.


Stand up, you unconscious piece of shiat!!! Right! That's a pepper spraying!
 
2014-01-09 11:02:06 AM  

Prey4reign: And yet ...


.. you think you got "play".  It's too early for this movie.  Adios, Lord Squintnipple.   :  )
 
2014-01-09 11:04:06 AM  

Pangea: Nabb1: That's going to cost the department some money.

You mean the citizens who pay for the department out of their taxes.

Police abuse settlements should be paid for out of the police pension fund, to encourage self-"policing"


The sad thing is, at least in my city, the pension funds are protected by the Police Unions. We, the people, voted to cut the police pensions (they were getting something like 150% for every dollar or something like that). The cops did not like that so they targeted certain city council members and had one of their people run for that seat. They posted cops in full uniform near voting areas to try and force their votes or intimidate people into voting for their person. And sadly, some of their people won and the first thing they did was vote to give the police their pensions back. Over turning a vote by the people.

By my understanding, I thought this is illegal as my new city council woman is a wife of a cop and she voted on this issue meaning she had personal gain in it or could be a bought vote in a  way.
 
2014-01-09 11:04:53 AM  
Maybe they thought he was Bieber.
 
Ant
2014-01-09 11:05:36 AM  

TripSixes: Marcus Aurelius: We don't call them "pigs" for nothing, you know.

Pigs are friendly creatures much like dogs.


3.bp.blogspot.com

Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig shiat, now do you?

They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig".
 
2014-01-09 11:08:23 AM  

dustygrimp: My nephew is a good cop.  He is 24, works in the projects in Boston and does the right thing.  He's always been a good kid and still is.  What he will be after 10 years on the job remains to be seen, but there are good cops.


Judging from the rate at which these stories show up on fark, I'd say most of them were.  Judging from the people that comment in police abuse threads, 99% of them are rotten.
 
2014-01-09 11:08:55 AM  

yves0010: By my understanding, I thought this is illegal as my new city council woman is a wife of a cop and she voted on this issue meaning she had personal gain in it or could be a bought vote in a  way.


Are you implying, sirrah, that there are those amongst the thick and mind legions of civil servants in our bureaucracies who would resort to disingenuous and manipulative illegalities in order to vote themselves largess out of the treasury?  I am flabbergasted, sir.
 
2014-01-09 11:09:02 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: xanadian: internut scholar: A friend of mine is a Trooper. He told me that unless you are dead, you are getting a citation in any wreck. And he has no choice, it's mandated to him. Not sure if other troops in PA follow the same procedures but that's his.

Gotta keep that revenue flowing...

My "bad" cop to good cop encounter ratio is something like 1:4.  One cop I knew was my landlord, and was a major dick.  Used his position to evict me because fark you, that's why (paid my rent on time, and everything else...he just wanted the house back so HE could live there).  The other one wrote me a ticket for something I didn't do, because fark you, that's why (got the ticket thrown out, though).  Granted, NONE of this amounts to what's in the video.  The other encounters with cops were either thoroughly professional (one legitimately caught me speeding, but brought the offense down...guess he was having a good day or something), or I know them personally and they're good people.  But still.  Out of every 5 cops I've known or encountered, 1 was a dick.  I don't have that kind of a ratio with people in any other profession.  Not even the military.

Something about having power just seems to screw with people's heads.  And/or, a position of power is a great attractor for the sociopaths and egotists.

Ghastly: ReverendJasen: Ghastly: This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable.

The technology is available.  Police unions won't let it happen.  Hell, they fought tooth and nail just to keep GPS tracking out of the cars in at least one district.

Make it a federal law and they'll have no choice but to let it happen.

There are a few cities out there that are already doing badge cameras.  I think it's an awesome idea.  Protects *everybody*.

/you have to understand. Put yourself in an officers position. No ...


oh please what a bunch of BS. A large majority of officers are sitting in cruisers doing traffic enforcement and are not rubbing elbows with the dregs of society every farking day. You know how I know you are full of it ? Because there are as many or more police dept in towns that have almost no violent crime etc. Sure maybe in a big city officers are seeing the worst of the worst but the vast majority of cops are working in depts with little or no crime and very little threat to officer safety.

They simply escalate because they can. They know there is really no check on what they do in the field. The Depts and unions ALWAYS back the officer no matter what. Even when what the cop did was blatant they use terms like "Aggressive Stance" or any number of completely fabricated situationals to explain away an officers illegal conduct. Everyone hates you for a reason. There is ZERO accountability for police officers. They have to kill someone and even then they usually walk.

People join the force knowing EXACTLY how their fellow citizens feel about their profession. They bought their ticket etc etc
 
2014-01-09 11:12:44 AM  

Ant: Mikey1969: Wow... While slamming  him into the wall is bad, THIS part is bullshiat, too:

In the report, Dietenhofer said that Richardson "gained control of Bergeron," saying the teen was later pepper sprayed because he refused to stand up.

Really? "Because he didn't stand up?" Fark you assholes. And for the people here who are police, and who know police, it's people like this who drag that image through the mud. And it's not like this is an isolated incident, who the fark is supporting these pricks? The unions need to do some DEEP soul searching, and start setting up a code of conduct defining who they will and who they won't fight to protect.

Stand up, you unconscious piece of shiat!!! Right! That's a pepper spraying!


Yeah, something that bothers me is the video where they taser some poor schlub, and then taser him AGAIN because he didn't get up off of the ground while convulsing...
 
2014-01-09 11:13:29 AM  

bunner: yves0010: By my understanding, I thought this is illegal as my new city council woman is a wife of a cop and she voted on this issue meaning she had personal gain in it or could be a bought vote in a  way.

Are you implying, sirrah, that there are those amongst the thick and mind legions of civil servants in our bureaucracies who would resort to disingenuous and manipulative illegalities in order to vote themselves largess out of the treasury?  I am flabbergasted, sir.


You sir, made me laugh. Thank God I was not drinking my hot chocolate at that moment.
 
2014-01-09 11:14:34 AM  
If it walks like a duck...  The low opinion that the public at large has of the police is due to Occam's razor.  Not some neighborhood conspiracy of big, fat meanie citizens.
 
2014-01-09 11:18:00 AM  

dustygrimp: My nephew is a good cop.


Is his name Hooker?

//Hooker's a good cop!
 
Ant
2014-01-09 11:20:30 AM  

This text is now purple: We should eliminate the unconscionable draft system the government uses to force people to become police officers.


I don't think he was in any way excusing bad behavior.

I don't think most people know how such an environment will affect them until they've been in it for a while. Fellow officers should, however, be able to recognize when a coworker is going down a bad path and help to put a stop to it without fear of being ostracized for not covering bad behavior
 
2014-01-09 11:22:59 AM  

phyrkrakr: FTFA: There is no clear indication in court paperwork of how the DWI charge was resolved.

So...what's the statute of limitations on a DWI in New Hampshire?


I thought that only regulated how long the state had to bring charges.  He's not in jail at the moment, so do speedy trial requirements apply?
 
2014-01-09 11:23:36 AM  
Fark It [TotalFark]
2014-01-09 09:50:11 AM


OnlyM3: neongoats

Cops are civilians, just saying. They aren't some special pseudo military protected class. Any farking useless pig farker that tells you different... They absolutely are a protected class. They have dozens of protections from prosecution that Joe-6-pack would never have.

Why do you hate the unions and working class civil servants who risk their lives every day to protect you!

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2014-01-09 11:24:05 AM  

Ant: I don't think most people know how such an environment will affect them until they've been in it for a while. Fellow officers should, however, be able to recognize when a coworker is going down a bad path and help to put a stop to it without fear of being ostracized for not covering bad behavior


THIS.  If you are "brethren", when  you see your brother tripping over his dick and about to become part of the problem, you help him.  You don't throw a blanket over him and hope nobody notices.  That's not a good brother.
 
Ant
2014-01-09 11:24:58 AM  

fireclown: TripSixes: Pigs are friendly creatures much like dogs.

[th07.deviantart.net image 850x850]

disagrees.


Didn't even see this when I posted mine.
 
2014-01-09 11:25:56 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: you have to understand. Put yourself in an officers position. Nobody likes you, nobody wants to see you in the rear view mirror, unless you called them for help. All you see, every day, is brutality by people to one another, drunks that want to fight, drug users that abuse their kids, spouses. Murders and rapes, child molestations. You get the picture. Add to that, that everyone is watching you, and hoping that you do something wrong so they can sue. Courts, citizens, your other officers, and the brass. All have their eyes on what you're doing, and how your doing it. After so many years of this, one tends to become hard, jaded. You have to, just to survive. And it is possible to be a good cop through all this, but...it is difficult. We are the product of our environment, and it shapes you after so many years. Everyone lies to you, and you can't trust anyone. Think of all that, before you say its "power" that makes cops "bad". Its not that, its what they have to go through and see every day.


What movie is that from.... it's on the tip of my tongue. Was it the one with Sean Penn?
 
2014-01-09 11:26:26 AM  

Ghastly: This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason except police unions this technology can not be made available and affordable. If I was a cop I'd carry my own camera just to cover my own ass. But then again, I'm not a raging psychopath either.


FTFY
 
2014-01-09 11:27:49 AM  
Look at the grins on those piggies. I don't always say f*ck the police, but when I do, it's because the assholes like this are ALWAYS protected by the "good ones."

PROTIP MOTHERF*CKERS: If you are knowingly working side-by-side with and protecting the sort of person who would do something like this, YOU'RE NOT A F*CKING GOOD COP.
 
2014-01-09 11:29:59 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: I wanted no part of slapping a suspect around with no legal justification.  THAT..is not our job. No, i wasn't popular, and thats fine. At the end of the day, i could look in the mirror and know i treated people with respect, even if they didn't do the same to me.


Funny, because last month you wrote about administering "street justice" to "anyone really that is a farking asshole."
 
2014-01-09 11:32:19 AM  
Bit'O'Gristle [TotalFark]

/you have to understand. Put yourself in an officers position. Nobody likes you, nobody wants to see you in the rear view mirror, unless you called them for help. All you see, every day, is brutality by people to one another, drunks that want to fight, drug users that abuse their kids, spouses. Murders and rapes, child molestations. You get the picture.
Don't like the job? Get a Farking different one. Wondering why everybody hates you? Your brutality might be a good hint.

Add to that, that everyone is watching you, and hoping that you do something wrong so they can sue. Courts, citizens, your other officers, and the brass. All have their eyes on what you're doing, and how your doing it.
Oh bullshiat. The "brass" in this very farking story proves you're full of shiat. He's been covering up for them and now that it's gone public is trying to spin it. Several months ago was a story of a cop who tried to get her fellow thugs to stop beating on an innocent, nonviolent civilian and they fired her ass for it. You're a bunch of brutal thugs, nothing more.

Everyone lies to you, and you can't trust anyone.
You're allowed to lie as part of your job right? Fark you complaining about lies.

Think of all that, before you say its "power" that makes cops "bad".
Officers who want to whine should think about going home and suck starting their service shotgun.
 
2014-01-09 11:33:46 AM  

mjbok: dustygrimp: My nephew is a good cop.

Is his name Hooker?

//Hooker's a good cop!



"Were you able to jump on the hood?"

"Oh yeah!"

www.tj-hooker.com
 
2014-01-09 11:35:03 AM  

MindStalker: vudukungfu: Whoah
They slam his head into a wall, pick him up, throw him down, then pepper spray him?
Yeah.
I can see they will be getting a harsh punishment of paid leave and no jelly donuts.

A good explanation of the logic/legal reasoning behind paid leave http://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/1s01lr/most_common_m y th/cdslvma
Paid leave isn't the punishment, its taking them off the street while the investigation is happening. Also there is an issue of special Miranda issues dealing with police.
Read the link its eye opening.


I stopped reading right about where he started whining that Garrity takes away their fifth amendment rights.

/tiny violins all around
//switch them back to Miranda, they aren't somehow magically above the law
 
2014-01-09 11:38:00 AM  

notatrollorami: I know this is supposed to be a cop hate thread and all, and maybe I'm alone in this and cynical, but based on the comments I read I was underwhelmed by the video. There's plenty of serious police brutality out there; I'm just not sure this rises to the level I'm going to go apeshiat about.


So you'd be okay with cops giving you the exact same treatment they gave the kid in the video?
 
2014-01-09 11:39:27 AM  

kroonermanblack: No one remembers the 4 billion guys doing their job well day to day. Just the 5 guys who commit police brutality.


So long as those 4 billion are defending those 5, there are no good cops amongst the lot.

/and hilarious reversal of the numbers there
//got a good chuckle out of me
 
2014-01-09 11:40:32 AM  
It's a sh*tty, often amazingly boring job.

It is.

You're mostly babysitting dipsh*ts who are just sober enough to dial 911.

However, I think it would make it less difficult fro everybody if we had a federal law, requiring all LEO to be tested for annabolic steroids on a weekly basis.  No outs, no maybes, overrides union can refuse.  Federal.  Blow your piss test, you lose your badge.  Period.  For  -  ever.  Cause the last thing you need is be to be jacked up on rage fuel when you're sitting around with your thumb up your ass in a car full of weapons.  What's that white house petition site?
 
2014-01-09 11:41:39 AM  
union can't refuse
 
2014-01-09 11:41:47 AM  

Prey4reign: Come on people.  The police "violence" was no worse than what goes on at most fraternity hazings.  Looked like a group of older people introducing a younger person into the real world.


You're regularly knocked into walls and maced? No? Then that's not the "real world," it's assholes with authority.
 
2014-01-09 11:43:47 AM  
 
2014-01-09 11:43:56 AM  

neongoats: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: MmmmBacon: sammyk: I love how they always get put on PAID leave when this shiat happen. Not a one of them will spend a day in jail either.

/fark tha police

It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.


Could have a preliminary internal review of the complaint to decide their leave status. If a civilian were accused of a similar offense, he'd get a hearing to determine whether he'd be sitting in jail pending trial.

Cops are civilians, just saying. They aren't some special pseudo military protected class. Any farking useless pig farker that tells you different can die in a fire, along with all the crooked asshole pro militarization cops.


I know, right.

www.newyorker.com

Oh wait...
 
2014-01-09 11:46:54 AM  

doglover: Weaver95: And this is why I don't trust the cops anymore

You lack proper historical education.

Cops have ALWAYS been like this. In fact, they were much nicer to this guy than they would have been in the 30s when they'd just gun his ass down in his car and call it a victory.


They were pulling people over for DUI in the 30s?
 
2014-01-09 11:47:50 AM  

fireclown: ModernPrimitive01: I've yet in my life to be in a situation where I felt better that a cop showed up, and I've seen some things

I'll counter.  I found a dead man on the side of the road last year.  I hit 911, and within 20 min there were two cops, an ambulance and two off duty paramedics on site.


Oh sure, you "found" a dead man. Whatever you say Dexter.
 
2014-01-09 11:54:14 AM  
 "Put yourself in an officers position. Nobody likes you, nobody wants to see you in the rear view mirror"

That is exactly how the French described the occupying Germans.
 
2014-01-09 11:58:11 AM  

OnlyM3: Officers who want to whine should think about going home and suck starting their service shotgun.


No, that whole mindset is the problem.  Cause that's what the punk ass, sadistic thugs hiding behind badges think of citizens when they slam them up against a wall for a giggle.  Tear down the wall, motherf*ckers.  Tear down the wall.
 
2014-01-09 12:01:05 PM  

mjbok: dustygrimp: My nephew is a good cop.
Is his name Hooker?
//Hooker's a good cop!


No, but he saved a hooker from the streets! And he didn't even demand a blowjob from her for the favor.
 
2014-01-09 12:02:52 PM  

mainsail: Weaver95: And this is why I don't trust the cops anymore....i'm sure there are good ones out there who do the job and aren't violent sociopaths but....yeah.  still ain't trusting the cops.

There are; I know lots. But the bad ones are the visible ones, and so, there goes the reputation. Interesting that this seems to go at the same p[ace as worse and worse officers in the US military, too. http://www.npr.org/2014/01/06/259422776/army-takes-on-its-own-toxic-l e aders (trust NPR to call a Gunny Sargent in a movie an 'officer', but apart from that a good report).

What's happening, here?


They are non-commissioned officers.
 
2014-01-09 12:08:48 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: mainsail: Weaver95: And this is why I don't trust the cops anymore....i'm sure there are good ones out there who do the job and aren't violent sociopaths but....yeah.  still ain't trusting the cops.

There are; I know lots. But the bad ones are the visible ones, and so, there goes the reputation. Interesting that this seems to go at the same p[ace as worse and worse officers in the US military, too. http://www.npr.org/2014/01/06/259422776/army-takes-on-its-own-toxic-l e aders (trust NPR to call a Gunny Sargent in a movie an 'officer', but apart from that a good report).

What's happening, here?

They are non-commissioned officers.


Yes; *Enlisted*, not commissioned. The article is about -Commissioned- officers. Big difference, and the example NPR uses is a basic training NCO. and one from 40 years ago at that.
 
2014-01-09 12:11:11 PM  

OnlyM3: Fark you

OnlyM3: Wondering why everybody hates you? Your brutality might be a good hint.

OnlyM3: Oh bullshiat.

OnlyM3: You're a bunch of brutal thugs, nothing more.

OnlyM3: think about going home and suck starting their service shotgun.


I think far too much time on Fark.com has made you into an asshole.  You know, kinda like what happens to some cops that Bit'O'Gristle was saying.
 
2014-01-09 12:11:18 PM  

Fark It: Pangea: Nabb1: That's going to cost the department some money.

You mean the citizens who pay for the department out of their taxes.

Police abuse settlements should be paid for out of the police pension fund, to encourage self-"policing"

And all cops should have to pay for their own malpractice/brutality insurance, rather than the cost of their malfeasance being shouldered by taxpayers.


Paid leave doesn't make sense at all. There is plenty of desk work an officer can do. Or force them into charity work for pay. If the concern is a bad cop being on the street, just task the cop toa different form of work instead of giving him a paid vacation.
 
2014-01-09 12:16:04 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs....as a retired police officer who has taken many people to jail, i can say from seeing the video that this was completely unnecessary. Kid weighed about 130 soaking wet, and from what i saw, he was, at the most, just "maybe" talking shiat. There was no need, none, with 3 huge officers that clearly could have controlled him, to slam him into the wall like that. Prisoners talk shiat, that doesn't give you the right to injure them. There was no need at all to slam him like that, the officer who hurt him should be fired, and jailed for battery, and have to pay the kid damages out of pocket. The officer who maced him should be fired, as it was 1. not needed, and 2. he thought it was funny. This kind of horrible police work shames all good officers everywhere who try to do a good job and treat people with respect. Kid should get a nice fat pay off for this one. And officer brutal should go to prison. Shame on you officers, shame on you, for your lack of control, and brutal treatment of a human being.


Thanks for that BoG. One thing I'd add to that is that it's amazing that the video suddenly gets found behind the sofa just after the two year statue of limitations elapses. Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice or whatever the legal term is for denying the existence of evidence, needs to be brought to the table.
 
2014-01-09 12:16:14 PM  
One of the commenters on the page seems to end every comment with heehaw. That ranks in my top ten internet idiots now.
 
2014-01-09 12:20:10 PM  

gaslight: Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice or whatever the legal term is for denying the existence of evidence, needs to be brought to the table.


It's called obstruction of justice and it's on the top five nebulous charges tossed at you by cops when they got nuttin' but your ass in the back seat.
 
2014-01-09 12:28:38 PM  

Fark It: OnlyM3: neongoats

Cops are civilians, just saying. They aren't some special pseudo military protected class. Any farking useless pig farker that tells you different... They absolutely are a protected class. They have dozens of protections from prosecution that Joe-6-pack would never have.

Why do you hate the unions and working class civil servants who risk their lives every day to protect you!


What do you mean "risks their lives"? Most cops I know arrest people for domestics issues or grab people for OUI. How many cops actually risk their lives ONCE during their career? Tired of this old and tired "hero" label. Way overused. Risk your life to help someone and then talk to me. (By risking your life I do not mean calling and waiting for backup.)
 
2014-01-09 12:30:37 PM  

Ghastly: ReverendJasen: Ghastly: This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable.

The technology is available.  Police unions won't let it happen.  Hell, they fought tooth and nail just to keep GPS tracking out of the cars in at least one district.

Make it a federal law and they'll have no choice but to let it happen.


Nope.  The Supreme Court says the federal government cannot force state or local police to enforce federal laws, especially federal laws related to state and local government administration.  The best the feds can do is tie some kind of federal money to it.  So, for instance, they could pass a law saying states only get fancy new anti-terrorism grants if they agree to wear bodycams.  Of course, the Supreme Court's making that harder too, with their ruling on the Obamacare Medicaid expansion being the most recent example.  It's a lot harder today for the Feds to make states "an offer they can't refuse."

The only way bodycams will become a thing is a slow, state-by-state, county-by-county, town-by-town push by voters and government leaders.
 
2014-01-09 12:40:51 PM  

Mugato: mjbok: dustygrimp: My nephew is a good cop.

Is his name Hooker?

//Hooker's a good cop!


"Were you able to jump on the hood?"

"Oh yeah!"

[www.tj-hooker.com image 168x144]


Probably 3 decades later I still remember that sketch and that line.
 
2014-01-09 12:45:29 PM  

Ghastly: MmmmBacon:
It's a catch-22, though. If they aren't put on paid administrative leave while under investigation, then every BS abuse report that gets filed - and yes, there are many false abuse claims made against cops - would drive good cops out of the profession. I feel bad cops should be held to account for their abuses, absolutely, but taking away paid administrative leave during these investigations won't solve the problem. Putting the bad cops in jail when they break the law would, though.

There should be mandatory badge cameras on all cops and any video footage that is "lost" during an arrest results in the nullification of all charges.

This will protect the good cops from false accusations and prevent the bad cops from getting away with their abuse. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason this technology can not be made available and affordable. If I was a cop I'd carry my own camera just to cover my own ass. But then again, I'm not a raging psychopath either.


I am entirely for mandatory cameras on cops. Some jurisdictions are using them already, and I feel it is good for both the police and the people they encounter during their duties. I've heard that when these cameras are used, both claims of police brutality drop, and the police themselves are clearly conscious of the camera and treat people more respectfully because of that. It's a good thing for all involved.
 
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