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(Open Democracy)   Journalism in the Netherlands is seen as a joke and a profession that protects the rich and powerful rather than assailing them: "Dutch journalism primarily serves, not the interests of the population, but those of elites"   (opendemocracy.net) divider line 36
    More: Interesting, Netherlands, Dutch, freedom of the press, Nick Davies, Dutch journalism, corporate propaganda, Dutch people, Prime Ministers of Greece  
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2014-01-09 07:18:35 AM
Whew! I sure am glad the rest of us don't have this peculiarly Dutch problem!
 
2014-01-09 08:47:40 AM
The Dutch are ahead of us in so many ways.
 
2014-01-09 10:59:47 AM
So just like the US then.
 
2014-01-09 11:00:03 AM
Wow, that must suck.
 
2014-01-09 11:05:11 AM

Wendy's Chili: Wow, that must suck.


Imagine if a wealthy manufacturing giant like GE owned news outlets here in the states and slanted its news in favor of corporations. Hey anybody see any coverage on the Today show about that oil spill in Arkansas?
 
2014-01-09 11:05:57 AM
Is news supposed to be free or good?
 
2014-01-09 11:06:22 AM

monoski: Wendy's Chili: Wow, that must suck.

Imagine if a wealthy manufacturing giant like GE owned news outlets here in the states and slanted its news in favor of corporations. Hey anybody see any coverage on the Today show about that oil spill in Arkansas?


Imagine if, god forbid, just 5 corporations owned 85% of news outlets, and had 95% of reader/viewership.
 
2014-01-09 11:08:58 AM
So, given that the Right in America will always oppose anything done by Europeans as 'socialist'...
Does this mean Fox is going to stop being a pandering corporate shill?
 
2014-01-09 11:09:09 AM
But are the netherlands homogeneous?
 
2014-01-09 11:10:17 AM
Everyone knows the only news worth watching in Europe is the French news. Heck, I don't even speak French and I just enjoy watching it! :-)
 
2014-01-09 11:10:41 AM
Noam Chomsky says "no shiat"
 
2014-01-09 11:11:57 AM
There's only two types of people I hate -- journalists who protect the interests of the rich and powerful, and the Dutch.
 
2014-01-09 11:12:51 AM
www.squidmobile.com

"There's only two things I can't stand in this world.  People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and monolithic media empires that protect the rich and powerful."
 
2014-01-09 11:18:05 AM
Wow, that would be awful. Up next, Mike Allen's Playbook wins the morning by telling you that all the top Washington politicians are driving Chrysler 300's.
 
2014-01-09 11:26:40 AM
Don't trust the corporate media.
 
2014-01-09 11:26:49 AM
So, your saying the Dutch have a mastery of the obvious?

Of course they are the tools of the rich and powerful.  Everything they own is a tool.
 
2014-01-09 11:33:38 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Whew! I sure am glad the rest of us don't have this peculiarly Dutch problem!


Yeah, good thing that this will never happen in the US.
 
2014-01-09 11:54:24 AM
-Ric Romero?
 
2014-01-09 11:57:45 AM
On the other hand, the Dutch have Popoz, which has the hottest pathologist ever.

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-09 11:58:36 AM
It's a mediaopoly, a mediaopoly.
 
2014-01-09 12:32:57 PM

LectertheChef: On the other hand, the Dutch have Popoz, which has the hottest pathologist ever.

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Leker.
 
2014-01-09 12:34:03 PM
If only they could invent some sort of rudder, that could steer them clear of things like this.
 
2014-01-09 12:36:44 PM

LectertheChef: On the other hand, the Dutch have Popoz, which has the hottest pathologist ever.

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If there's a Rule 34 with her in it, I don't want to know about it. Mkay? Thxbye!
 
2014-01-09 12:45:34 PM
The argument would carry more weight if it didn't read like a high-schooler's AP essay. I assume the author's first language is Dutch, but still, if you're going to try to write for an English-speaking audience and flaunt your PhD, wouldn't it be wise to have a copyeditor to catch the more obvious mistakes?
 
2014-01-09 12:45:42 PM

JolobinSmokin: If only they could invent some sort of rudder, that could steer them clear of things like this.


Too many dykes.
 
2014-01-09 01:05:53 PM

Stone Meadow: LectertheChef: On the other hand, the Dutch have Popoz, which has the hottest pathologist ever.

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If there's a Rule 34 with her in it, I don't want to know about it. Mkay? Thxbye!


Other than a partial strip tease in the morgue, no, not that I'm aware of.

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-09 01:18:51 PM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Whew! I sure am glad the rest of us don't have this peculiarly Dutch problem!


I'm ragging on a French newspaper for this, but as long as our media isn't saying: "The American masses understand nothing, which is normal," we're *better* off than them.  Not a lot, but some.

Seriously, "The French masses understand nothing, which is normal."  Imagine if the NYT wrote that in an editorial tomorrow.  Imagine the hissy-fit that would be coming up from the Right AND the Left (even if some parts of the Left would only be doing it to save their skins) if the NYT implicitly said "We tax the masses and rule them via the state because the masses know nothing and we can better rule them than they can rule themselves because we know better than them. And then we explicitly set up the whole thing to almost never require a referendum by the voters (or for that matter, a vote, period) because we know better than to give the masses power".

/Literal French:  La France d'en bas n'y comprend rien, ce qui est habituel.
 
2014-01-09 01:30:53 PM

meyerkev: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Whew! I sure am glad the rest of us don't have this peculiarly Dutch problem!

I'm ragging on a French newspaper for this, but as long as our media isn't saying: "The American masses understand nothing, which is normal," we're *better* off than them.  Not a lot, but some.

Seriously, "The French masses understand nothing, which is normal."  Imagine if the NYT wrote that in an editorial tomorrow.  Imagine the hissy-fit that would be coming up from the Right AND the Left (even if some parts of the Left would only be doing it to save their skins) if the NYT implicitly said "We tax the masses and rule them via the state because the masses know nothing and we can better rule them than they can rule themselves because we know better than them. And then we explicitly set up the whole thing to almost never require a referendum by the voters (or for that matter, a vote, period) because we know better than to give the masses power".

/Literal French:  La France d'en bas n'y comprend rien, ce qui est habituel.


But, on the other hand, the French love their protests. Seriously, it's one of the things that gets the French together.

/Other than that, I like the French
 
2014-01-09 01:31:42 PM
hilarious
 
2014-01-09 01:32:32 PM
 
2014-01-09 01:56:20 PM

LectertheChef: Stone Meadow: LectertheChef: On the other hand, the Dutch have Popoz, which has the hottest pathologist ever.

[img.fark.net image 850x475]

If there's a Rule 34 with her in it, I don't want to know about it. Mkay? Thxbye!

Other than a partial strip tease in the morgue, no, not that I'm aware of.

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People are dying to see that.

/low hanging fruit
 
2014-01-09 02:07:31 PM
FTA:  The ruling professional ideology is 'objectivity.' The media are mostly privately-owned and depend on advertising revenue. In the name of 'freedom of the press', the government exercises restraint, taking the position that, as much as possible, the market should decide which publications live and die. But journalists and politicians are caught in a symbiotic relationship and the PR industry exerts a lot of covert influence on journalism.

The commercial media's primary task is not to provide the population with relevant, independently-gathered information. Their primary task is to deliver readers, viewers and listeners to advertisers. As a consequence, the media in the Netherlands are owned by rich corporations and persons who have a stake in maintaining friendly ties with other corporations and also the government, for access to powerful political sources needs to be kept at all costs.

Dutch journalism thus remains far from independent, at least, if we take Jurgen Habermas' definition seriously, whereby a public sphere 'can only approach autonomy if it is independent from both the state and commercial interests'.


TL;DR:

Journalism's in decline, here in Dutch-berg
Parroting your sponsor's line, it's a Dutch blur
No pesky inquiries,
We rewrite history!
Dutch tales! Woo-OO-oo!
Tales of "Fair and Balanced - LIBERALS SUCK!" tales! Woo-OO-oo!
 
2014-01-09 02:26:15 PM
We have a local monopoly newspaper here in Panama City, Florida. It has definitely thwarted democracy and allowed corruption to flourish with their manipulation of the news. The people who advertize heavily in their paper are kept out of any news stories when they act illegally. A constant barrage of severely skewed public relations articles by local corporations pushing their agendas passed off as news stories. And worst of all, editorials and letters to the editors right before the elections that greatly contributes to the re-election of the same old crooks, time after time.

And you know what? They consider themselves to have the highest integrity and prove it by giving national politically slanted political writers equal column space in their newspaper.

I have to read it (yes, they are a monopoly but I need to stay informed) but The Panama City News Herald, a frequent contributor of wacky stories to Fark.com, is just a piss pour joke.
 
2014-01-09 03:00:24 PM

varmitydog: We have a local monopoly newspaper here in Panama City, Florida. It has definitely thwarted democracy and allowed corruption to flourish with their manipulation of the news. The people who advertize heavily in their paper are kept out of any news stories when they act illegally. A constant barrage of severely skewed public relations articles by local corporations pushing their agendas passed off as news stories. And worst of all, editorials and letters to the editors right before the elections that greatly contributes to the re-election of the same old crooks, time after time.

And you know what? They consider themselves to have the highest integrity and prove it by giving national politically slanted political writers equal column space in their newspaper.

I have to read it (yes, they are a monopoly but I need to stay informed) but The Panama City News Herald, a frequent contributor of wacky stories to Fark.com, is just a piss pour joke.


Well, that gives an interesting twist on the idea of "yellow jounalism"
 
2014-01-09 04:00:37 PM
What we need is journalism for the common man.

cinema1544.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-09 04:40:31 PM

DoctorOfLove: let's try that again.
hilarious
http://www.comedycentral.nl/shows/1647-popoz?video=73b4b91c4e2204e98 80 a


Here's a better clip of that scene, and definitely NSFW!
 
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