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2014-01-09 09:00:37 AM
After the Blizzard of '77, a friend of mine and I walked up a snow drift to the roof of our school gymnasium. As it turned out neighbors snitched and we got busted by the cops. But seriously, we walked onto the roof of a gymnasium! Consider the snowdrift that makes that possible.
 
2014-01-09 09:02:27 AM

Muta: Cybernetic: I remember a blizzard that hit when I was living in Virginia in the mid 1970s. There was a hill near our house that got completely iced over, to the point that you didn't even need a sled to slide down it. Kids were sliding down on pieces of cardboard. Getting back up the hill was tricky.

I lived in N. Virginia in the late 80's.  I worked in Tyson Corner and lived a mile or so east on Leesburg Pike.  There was a snow one evening, I'll guess about 3 inches, and it took over an hour to get home.  There was a small incline on Leesburg heading toward Tysons and it was a skating rink.


I remember that one, we got another snow that same winter.  I remember driving along the beltway and people where abandoning their cars in the middle of the farking road...before the snow started falling or just after it started.

/Lived just south of the NY snow belts, we had snow but nothing memorable.
//Lived in Buffalo in 93, got snowed out of the city for a couple of days.  Could drive to the city limits but could not get into the city.
///Still amazed at how fast things shutdown here with less then an inch of snow.
 
2014-01-09 09:03:20 AM

doglover: bighairyguy: I was in Southern California

You have no weather experience.


Santa Ana winds were pretty interesting and it got up to 115 once so there's that.  I left SoCal in 1970 and picked up a lot of experience.  The aforementioned snow record Chicago winter, record all-time cold there two years later.  Move to NC and got get up close and personal with a number of hurricanes, been through the eye of two.  Some record snowfalls down there too, tops was 20" in 8 hours.  Record heat record drought, two tropical storms and record flooding all occurred in the seven months leading up to the record 20" snowfall.  DC got blasted by three blizzards in two months a few years ago and we also had a hurricane and an earthquake in the same week.
 
2014-01-09 09:08:49 AM

maddogdelta: This was the block I lived on during the Blizzard of 77...



I was on the other side of the street. The house in the picture was next to a golf course, and the wind just picked up all the snow from the golf course and piled it on the row of houses.


Behind my house, we had a golf course too. Good times... for a kid.
 
2014-01-09 09:10:06 AM
Wasn't the sun in the same part of the solar cycle in 77/78 as it is now?
 
2014-01-09 09:24:23 AM
1966 was worse.
 
2014-01-09 09:24:46 AM

maddogdelta: This was the block I lived on during the Blizzard of 77...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x542]

I was on the other side of the street. The house in the picture was next to a golf course, and the wind just picked up all the snow from the golf course and piled it on the row of houses.


THAT is awesome. I hope to see that in my lifetime.
 
2014-01-09 09:29:07 AM
Of the few things I am familiar with on Fark, this is one of them. Fond memories of a 10 YO, digging sick tunnels in the huge snowdrifts. My Dad getting stuck in a Denny's and then once he got home, bribing a backhoe operator with a bottle of Whiskey to dig out our driveway. We stayed outside in the snow so long, I actually got light frostbite on my earlobes. Good Times!
 
2014-01-09 09:29:53 AM

xtalman: Muta: Cybernetic: I remember a blizzard that hit when I was living in Virginia in the mid 1970s. There was a hill near our house that got completely iced over, to the point that you didn't even need a sled to slide down it. Kids were sliding down on pieces of cardboard. Getting back up the hill was tricky.

I lived in N. Virginia in the late 80's.  I worked in Tyson Corner and lived a mile or so east on Leesburg Pike.  There was a snow one evening, I'll guess about 3 inches, and it took over an hour to get home.  There was a small incline on Leesburg heading toward Tysons and it was a skating rink.

I remember that one, we got another snow that same winter.  I remember driving along the beltway and people where abandoning their cars in the middle of the farking road...before the snow started falling or just after it started.

/Lived just south of the NY snow belts, we had snow but nothing memorable.
//Lived in Buffalo in 93, got snowed out of the city for a couple of days.  Could drive to the city limits but could not get into the city.
///Still amazed at how fast things shutdown here with less then an inch of snow.


Buffalo = Heavy snow. Must be because they are at the eastern end of Lake Erie which adds a lot of 'lake effect' to the regular snow we get.

I'm located just around 40 miles NW above the N shore of the lake, and often we'd see zero snow here while 2 feet reported in good ol' Buffalo.

This is a product available in craft stores around here used for making stuffed animals, cushions, etc.

s28.postimg.org
 
2014-01-09 09:32:41 AM

Mudd's woman: Jimmy Griffin had it all under control during the Blizzard of '77!


Perhaps. That was part of the reason he was mayor the following year!
You might be thinking of the Blizzard of '85 when he made his famous comment.
I was 3 during the '77 blizzard. I have some very vague memories of it. Blowing snow, stacks of blankets on sleeping bags and mac&cheese.
 
2014-01-09 09:34:33 AM
Was off from school during the 77 blizzard. Was home all alone with everyone else in the family stuck at work. Called my girlfriend over, made a fire, listened to the storm, undressed her.......
 
2014-01-09 09:36:22 AM

doglover: bighairyguy: I was in Southern California

You have no weather experience.


As if that's a bad thing.
 
2014-01-09 09:38:38 AM
3 Januaries in a row were nasty (77-79).

1. 48 inches of frost. Our apt was unusable for 1.5 months until the burst plumbing got fixed.
2. We got married and then had an unexpected honeymoon
3. My sister told her husband, "next year, someplace hot."
 
2014-01-09 09:39:50 AM

Heatseeker: Mudd's woman: Jimmy Griffin had it all under control during the Blizzard of '77!

Perhaps. That was part of the reason he was mayor the following year!
You might be thinking of the Blizzard of '85 when he made his famous comment.
I was 3 during the '77 blizzard. I have some very vague memories of it. Blowing snow, stacks of blankets on sleeping bags and mac&cheese.


I could have sworn it was '77 when Jimmy G. gave his memorable advice....?

Wow. That changes things!

(sort of)
 
2014-01-09 09:41:05 AM
Spend that year in south Texas, with people there, bwhen it gets below 50, start fretting about snow, and haven't had an appreciable snowfall in 30 years. People packing their pleather jackets with anything to stay warm, be it, plastic  bags or newspapers. glad i didn't experience that kind of cold,  but still, it wasn't nice. I remember times as teenager, he'd get calls from relatives whose faucets had frozen in the cold, riding in a truck to the middle of a field to replace the faucet, while dad stayed in the truck "To keep it warm". just fixed it, but man, I remember those experience none too fondly. Still have the truck, brand new in '77, i beautiful two tone blue Silverado.
 
2014-01-09 09:47:53 AM

xtalman: Muta: Cybernetic: I remember a blizzard that hit when I was living in Virginia in the mid 1970s. There was a hill near our house that got completely iced over, to the point that you didn't even need a sled to slide down it. Kids were sliding down on pieces of cardboard. Getting back up the hill was tricky.

I lived in N. Virginia in the late 80's.  I worked in Tyson Corner and lived a mile or so east on Leesburg Pike.  There was a snow one evening, I'll guess about 3 inches, and it took over an hour to get home.  There was a small incline on Leesburg heading toward Tysons and it was a skating rink.

I remember that one, we got another snow that same winter.  I remember driving along the beltway and people where abandoning their cars in the middle of the farking road...before the snow started falling or just after it started.

/Lived just south of the NY snow belts, we had snow but nothing memorable.
//Lived in Buffalo in 93, got snowed out of the city for a couple of days.  Could drive to the city limits but could not get into the city.
///Still amazed at how fast things shutdown here with less then an inch of snow.


In 1996, I spent about six weeks from November - January at a shipyard in Pascagoula, MS, working on a proposal for a Navy contract. Our team had people from places like New Jersey and Colorado, so we were used to winter weather.

On December 23, on the gulf coast of Mississippi, it snowed. About 1/4 inch. And it was the end of the freaking world.

They closed the shipyard. Sent ten thousand workers home. Panicked reports on the radio warned about the dangers to people and pets and outdoor plants and everything else you can imagine. The dozen of us who were from up north just stood there in slack-jawed amazement, and waited a couple of hours for the traffic to clear out before we went back to our hotels. The snow was completely gone by the next morning.
 
2014-01-09 09:58:57 AM

some_beer_drinker: yeah, i remember 77. our house was encased in ice for a week. our only source of heat was the fire place. after a few days, the batteries died, and we only had candles for light. it was a wonderful time. thank god we were canadians, otherwise we might have perished. it is our understanding that our american friends do not have fireplaces, or store much food. poor fellows. anyway, this weather we are having now is a childs blizzard. man up, nancy.


Yeah, that's what you guys tell yourselves to avoid feeling inferior.
 
2014-01-09 10:03:40 AM

MythDragon: I played that game:
[www.adirondackalmanack.com image 850x637]

It was fairly fun.

You had to get one of each card on the left, hopefully before the blizzard started. If someone got the blizzard weather card, you flipped the board over and play got much much harder.


Came here to post this.  I'm not certain how I wound up getting that game when I was a kid.

/Not a western NY'er
 
2014-01-09 10:18:19 AM
Its not cold unless your tauntaun freezes before the first marker
 
2014-01-09 10:27:17 AM

dentalhilljack: MythDragon: I played that game:
[www.adirondackalmanack.com image 850x637]

It was fairly fun.

You had to get one of each card on the left, hopefully before the blizzard started. If someone got the blizzard weather card, you flipped the board over and play got much much harder.

Came here to post this.  I'm not certain how I wound up getting that game when I was a kid.

/Not a western NY'er


I played it in florida
 
2014-01-09 10:33:12 AM

bighairyguy: Muta: bighairyguy: skinnycatullus: My family moved from Tennessee to Chicago in 1978. Now that was a nasty winter. My Southern-born parents were NOT amused. I was 4, so I didn't really notice.

I moved to Chicago from Atlanta in January 1978, and they set an all time snow record that winter. I said to myself, if I made through that, I could make it through anything. The following winter, those records were broken, and the blizzard of '79 was the centerpiece. I kept my mouth shut after that.

I had a paper route in '78.  Normally collecting was a pain in the ass because half the people wouldn't answer the door.  Most people just didn't want to pay for their paper so they chose to screw over the 12 y.o. paperboy.  Anyway, the during the '78 snow I went out door to door with a shovel.  Everyone answer their door then I told them I was there collecting for the paper. Some people I hadn't seen in over 6 months.

I did the paperboy thing a decade before you and it wasn't any different back then, but I was in Southern California so the shovel thing wasn't really an option.


Sure it is. You beat their car with it until they come outside.
"I want my 2 dollars"
 
2014-01-09 10:42:47 AM
Cherry Hill NJ for '77 & 78... I'm STILL shoveling snow...
 
2014-01-09 10:50:11 AM
I lived in NOVA at the time; I remember the street being covered in enough ice for sledding.  Almost got run over by a big truck.  What the hell were those guys thinking, bein' on the road like that?!  Good times.
 
2014-01-09 11:04:05 AM

soling714: Of the few things I am familiar with on Fark, this is one of them. Fond memories of a 10 YO, digging sick tunnels in the huge snowdrifts. My Dad getting stuck in a Denny's and then once he got home, bribing a backhoe operator with a bottle of Whiskey to dig out our driveway. We stayed outside in the snow so long, I actually got light frostbite on my earlobes. Good Times!


This. My friends and I built what seemed like massive lairs inside the snow drifts in the school yard across the street. The drifts went up to the 2nd story. Good times
 
2014-01-09 11:05:35 AM

Ex-Texan: Spend that year in south Texas, with people there, bwhen it gets below 50, start fretting about snow, and haven't had an appreciable snowfall in 30 years. People packing their pleather jackets with anything to stay warm, be it, plastic  bags or newspapers. glad i didn't experience that kind of cold,  but still, it wasn't nice. I remember times as teenager, he'd get calls from relatives whose faucets had frozen in the cold, riding in a truck to the middle of a field to replace the faucet, while dad stayed in the truck "To keep it warm". just fixed it, but man, I remember those experience none too fondly. Still have the truck, brand new in '77, i beautiful two tone blue Silverado.


305?
 
2014-01-09 11:13:07 AM

DON.MAC: Wasn't the sun in the same part of the solar cycle in 77/78 as it is now?


Uh, it was determined about a week ago that the sun doesn't have anything to do with the climate.  There was lots of usage of the words "derp" and "racist" when people expressed disbelief... so I am pretty sure that is legit.
 
2014-01-09 11:20:41 AM

GORDON: DON.MAC: Wasn't the sun in the same part of the solar cycle in 77/78 as it is now?

Uh, it was determined about a week ago that the sun doesn't have anything to do with the climate.  There was lots of usage of the words "derp" and "racist" when people expressed disbelief... so I am pretty sure that is legit.


The sun has plenty do with climate. It's just that in its current state it doesn't have much: the change in output over the sunspot cycle is trivial. Think of it this way: if the current solar cycle fluxes played a role you'd see a sine wave "wow" artifact in the temperature record. There isn't any.
 
2014-01-09 11:36:37 AM

desertfool: I was in Rochester for the Blizzard of '77, and I was quite young, but I remember it well. They sent us home from school early, and we walked home. It was horribly windy and you couldn't see anything. We had HUGE snow drifts that made for great sledding. I also remember my parents being quite freaked out by the whole thing.


Same here (in Rochester, walked home) and I remember the drifts being so high that we could walk to the lower branches of the maple tree in our front yard.  Our schools were closed for the rest of the week, although due more to the cold than the snow.

/good times
//reallly, good times:  one of my favorite childhood memories.  Don't have a lot of those......
 
2014-01-09 12:13:37 PM

August11: I still use the blizzard of 1888 as a measure:

Four feet of snow in a 24-hour period
Day time temp of 9F
Wind gusts to 50mph
30-foot drifts

Different locations in New England had different amounts. Most residents in my town (in CT) were using their second story windows to exit their homes a week later.


Pretty much, the Blizzard of 1888 is the gold standard for massive, once-in-a-generation winter storms.
 
2014-01-09 12:29:36 PM

Ablejack: After the Blizzard of '77, a friend of mine and I walked up a snow drift to the roof of our school gymnasium. As it turned out neighbors snitched and we got busted by the cops. But seriously, we walked onto the roof of a gymnasium! Consider the snowdrift that makes that possible.


Me'n my friends did much the same..then played King of the Hill on top of the *additional* huge drifts on the roof..in Tonawanda, NY..  No-one called the cops and no parents complained, or were even concerned..because the school is surrounded on all four sides by the suburban neighborhood and homes we lived in, and all the parents had to do to check up on their kids was look out the front window..  That was an awesome couple weeks off school..  :)

/the after-play hot chocolate warm-ups rotated from family home to family home..
 
2014-01-09 12:40:03 PM
I was ten years old, living in South Buffalo (Butler Park). I had the greatest time of my young life. All of the kids got together and made massive snow forts in our front yards, we could go sledding off the berm the tracks ran on behind the softball field, and I walked on top of my elementary school. I had those dorky 'Bigfoot' things they sold (Wham-O?), and they worked great as snowshoes.

The funniest thing I remembered was after my dad and the guy downstairs finished shoveling the driveway, there was this huge avalanche from the roofs of both our house and the house next door at the same time as they were standing on the porch drinking beers. In a second or two, the entire driveway was filled up again. The look on their faces was priceless. However, my joy was short-lived as I and my idiot friends were 'volunteered' on the spot to start digging it out again.
 
2014-01-09 12:56:39 PM
Many years ago, I had a colleague who was from the UP. They routinely received so much snow that the rest of us would despair about it. The sidewalks would be cleared into walls of snow which was piled up above an adult's eye level. The post man would walk his rounds carrying a little flag that flew above the snow level so that people could track his whereabouts.
 
2014-01-09 01:08:13 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: xtalman: Muta: Cybernetic: I remember a blizzard that hit when I was living in Virginia in the mid 1970s. There was a hill near our house that got completely iced over, to the point that you didn't even need a sled to slide down it. Kids were sliding down on pieces of cardboard. Getting back up the hill was tricky.

I lived in N. Virginia in the late 80's.  I worked in Tyson Corner and lived a mile or so east on Leesburg Pike.  There was a snow one evening, I'll guess about 3 inches, and it took over an hour to get home.  There was a small incline on Leesburg heading toward Tysons and it was a skating rink.

I remember that one, we got another snow that same winter.  I remember driving along the beltway and people where abandoning their cars in the middle of the farking road...before the snow started falling or just after it started.

/Lived just south of the NY snow belts, we had snow but nothing memorable.
//Lived in Buffalo in 93, got snowed out of the city for a couple of days.  Could drive to the city limits but could not get into the city.
///Still amazed at how fast things shutdown here with less then an inch of snow.

Buffalo = Heavy snow. Must be because they are at the eastern end of Lake Erie which adds a lot of 'lake effect' to the regular snow we get.

I'm located just around 40 miles NW above the N shore of the lake, and often we'd see zero snow here while 2 feet reported in good ol' Buffalo.

This is a product available in craft stores around here used for making stuffed animals, cushions, etc.

[s28.postimg.org image 684x815]


Actually the city itself does not see all the much snow.  It is the southtowns that really get nailed.  The city itself only gets it when the winds come in from the southwest vs. due west.
 
2014-01-09 03:12:53 PM
This storm we got 48 inches in 2 days time.  Town 10 miles away got 60 inches.  It was not as bad as '77 but pretty darn close.  I have never seen such a large stretch of I-81 closed for so long, 2 days and 70+ miles.  But it is all cleaned up now.
 
2014-01-09 03:36:46 PM
About 4 years ago when DC got hit by those 3 storms it was right when I bought my home in October. My heater died that year, I figured I could get a season out of it before that, guess I was wrong. I needed to get new windows too. Glad I got new windows and furnace that summer. But during the first storm I lost power for the weekend. It sucked all I could eat was doritos and cheese. I pretty much stayed under 6 blankets reading during that weekend.
 
2014-01-09 06:09:41 PM

yakmans_dad: The sun has plenty do with climate. It's just that in its current state it doesn't have much: the change in output over the sunspot cycle is trivial. Think of it this way: if the current solar cycle fluxes played a role you'd see a sine wave "wow" artifact in the temperature record. There isn't any.


But the distribution is different.  The size and shape of the Van Allen belts are slightly changed and the ionisation in the high atmosphere are slightly different.  At least that is what the space weather people seem to say.  The droughts and fire seasons in Australia are following the solar cycles like clockwork and that results in a serious change in average temperatures that is more than a just a few degrees different.
 
2014-01-09 07:42:13 PM
Grew up in Fredonia during B. O. '77.  We had 3' of snow dropped on our driveway in a heartbeat.  Luckily dad knew guys with front end loaders to clear the driveway.  We had the biggest pile at the end of the driveway to go sledding on, it was almost as tall as our 2-story house.  Anytime we needed anything, it was a snowmobile ride into town with nobody complaining for once.
 
2014-01-10 05:04:30 AM
1966 was my most memorable blizzard.
Winds up to 100 mph.
4 days of blizzard.
We had snow drift that reached to the peak of our 2 story house, and the state highway was buried under 20 ft of snow.

That was the midwest and IIRC, the northeast as well.
 
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