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(MSN)   "You sold my house for $288 in HOA fees?" "Well, maybe if you bothered to open one of the 30 notices we'd sent you or read the contract you signed when you bought the house, you wouldn't have this problem"   (news.msn.com) divider line 301
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2014-01-08 09:53:10 PM

LemSkroob: The action path of recourse shouldn't be foreclosure. Thats like a cop pulling someone over for speeding and then shooting them in the face as soon as they walk up to the car.


That would NEVER happen!
 
2014-01-08 09:53:37 PM
Why is it that HOAs seem to be heavily concentrated in low IQ states like Kentucky and Virginia?

In our state we have this thing called "exempt property" which no matter what trouble you have in your life, and someone comes after you for debts, your house is exempt up to some reasonable amount of money.
 
2014-01-08 09:54:33 PM

Ashyukun: This story is the gift that keeps on giving- every few weeks somebody new 'discovers' it and it shows up again on Fark. It's like the eternally regifted fruitcake of news.


There's other possible explanations:

1. She has more than one house, and each house is in a separate HOA.
2. She owns more than one house in the same HOA, and didn't pay the dues on any of them.
3. The dark admins have no way of keeping track of past stories.
 
2014-01-08 09:54:39 PM

LemSkroob: ReapTheChaos: I don't give a shiat what a contract says, an HOA should not be able to foreclose on any home for any reason. They can take the person to court and garnish their wages if necessary, but taking their home is simply farked up.

or just keep a tab open, document everything very well, and take your cut when the house is eventually sold.

There. no evictions, and the HOA gets paid.


K. What do you tell the plow guy, landscaper, road repair guy, insurance company, HOA lawyer, et cetera? "Well, we'd like to pay you, but a third of our members aren't paying their dues and we're waiting for them to sell so they can settle their tabs. We'll pay you then."

That's the whole point of the vile things. Towns promote them to get out of paying for Public Works, the HOA's promise private roads in good repair, well maintained facilities (pool, gym, small park, whatever) in exchange for dues. The money has to be coming in consistantly and everyone has to be paying their share or the whole thing unravels.
 
2014-01-08 09:54:40 PM
This is why you stay involved with your HOA or community council.  Generally, the people that shouldn't be in charge are while the people that could handle the responsibility are out enjoying life.  HOAs are useful to provide some kind of normalcy and maintenance to your neighborhood.  Unfortunately, the horror stories come when the power hungry start creating bad policy without much resistance so they can then create worse policy.
 
2014-01-08 09:55:55 PM
I guess I don't much care about the homeowner in the article.

I normally hate HOAs.

However, in my business, we send documents to people constantly.  They always act as if they did not receive them.  They are 99% full of shiat.

Even then, once they acknowledge that they have the doc, if they do what they were supposed to, the problem goes away.  Again, 99% don't.
 
2014-01-08 09:56:07 PM

EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?


Check the rules for service of process in your state
 
2014-01-08 09:56:58 PM
Okay I know that Fark likes to hate on HOAs, and some HOAs deserve the hate. But I've been president of one HOA and member of two others. The thing to remember is that it's a HOME-OWNERS association. If you own a home in the neighborhood you're a voting member of the association. The HOA isn't a group of aliens who get their jollies trying to fark you over. It's a group of volunteers from your own neighborhood who are devoting their own personal time and effort to make the neighborhood, if not better, at least not worse.

An HOA is a fine example of small-town democracy. Don't like what the HOA is doing? Go to a meeting. Volunteer. Get on the board. It isn't hard. In my experience the HOA boards are run by a handful of folks who only do it because nobody else will. They'd love to have folks who want to do the work.

In my experience the people who don't like HOAs just want the benefit of living in a nice neighborhood without having to do anything to contribute. And that's fine. Don't participate. Don't contribute. But don't complain when the people who are participating and who are contributing make decisions that you don't like.

Don't like HOAs? Don't move to a neighborhood that has one. When you buy a house they have to tell you that your neighborhood has one before you commit. It's not like they spring it on you after you move in.
 
2014-01-08 09:57:04 PM
An HOA presiding over 120,000 dollar house? There are trailers that cost more than that.
 
2014-01-08 09:57:13 PM

you are a puppet: EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?

Check the rules for service of process in your state


Have a look at the adultery statute as well while you're at it
 
2014-01-08 09:57:31 PM
The former homeowner is an idiot. The HOA is not at fault here, no matter how much you weirdos want them to be.
 
2014-01-08 09:57:32 PM
They knew what they were getting into!

/I'll sell you my $288 home though
//for $50k
 
2014-01-08 09:57:56 PM
bronyaur1: If you buy into a place that has a HOA, you deserve absolutely everything you get.
 
2014-01-08 09:57:57 PM

Headso: HOAs are for those that look at all the laws and rules in America and boldly say "No, that's not enough, I need more people to have authority over me"


that they're sick of selfish, narcissistic assholes who don't obey the laws and rules in America today; who let their dogs bark all night long and think nothing of playing loud music until 5 AM during the work week.  The cops are too busy to deal with this shiat, and assholes don't change even if asked nicely.  So the HOA helps keep them out, or under control.

/FTFY
 
2014-01-08 09:58:21 PM

EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?


Did she send that notice registered mail?  If so, then she's got a leg to stand on.
 
2014-01-08 09:58:58 PM

EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?



It is a complicated issue and I would need more details before I could give an opinion.


Let me see a picture of her tits.
 
2014-01-08 09:59:17 PM

jumac: ruined my credit in my 1st marriage but when its fixed and I can get a house.  It will not be in a HOA. Those who buy a house in a HOA have no idea what owning a house if for.  A house/land is there for your enjoyment.  If you are worried that if the person next to you puts up a tree house for their kid or pants their house some weird color is going effect the value of your land,  You shouldn't own the land/house.  When I can get a place and I want to do something to the property to make it more enjoyable for me and my family, I will make sure it done in line with town/state laws and such.  But if the people around me come and say please don't do that cause it going lower their property value I going say to bad.


This is what HOAs are for.  What you don't realize is that you're the bad guy in your story.  You're the person who is such an unreasonable asshole neighbor that people came up with the idea of HOAs.

If your neighbors can give you a compelling, logical reason for why you shouldn't do something on your property, the appropriate response is not, "To[sic] bad."

The HOA contract I signed just has reasonable things like requiring us to submit all paperwork and plans to the HOA prior to making any changes/additions to our property to ensure we have done all the required steps, such as land survey, permits, etc.  HOAs aren't ALL bad.  It's all about the people who set it up.

The best part is that they practically have to beg people to be on the board.  None of us want to be bothered by it.  That's the best kind of person to put in charge.  You only run into problems when you get a person who WANTS the power.  We all just encourage each other not to be assholes.
 
2014-01-08 09:59:23 PM

worlddan: PainInTheASP: Oh good, both parties are being idiots.  Carry on.

I agree with this but when all is said and done she is merely retarded while HOA's are evil. In any sane world these clauses would be contracts of adhesion and null ab inito. But we live in America, not sanity.


How do you know legal Latin terms but do not know that the plural of HOA does not contain an apostrophe?!

/primal scream
//AAAUUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH
 
2014-01-08 09:59:39 PM

kregh99: "For six years, Ingrid Boak, who travels a lot for work as a racehorse trainer, ignored mail from her homeowner association."

I stopped reading there.  I live in a development with an HOA.  I pay $200.00 a year.  I get upkeep on all the common ground, storm drains, snow removal, and a few other minor perks.  I was informed of this when we put a bid on the house.

Really don't have a problem with them, and this woman is an idiot.  If the HOA waited 6 years, they have been more than fair to her.


She is a Horse Trainer; this makes money for people with racing interests. She MUST travel.
 
2014-01-08 10:00:37 PM

jumac: ruined my credit in my 1st marriage but when its fixed and I can get a house.  It will not be in a HOA. Those who buy a house in a HOA have no idea what owning a house if for.  A house/land is there for your enjoyment.  If you are worried that if the person next to you puts up a tree house for their kid or pants their house some weird color is going effect the value of your land,  You shouldn't own the land/house.  When I can get a place and I want to do something to the property to make it more enjoyable for me and my family, I will make sure it done in line with town/state laws and such.  But if the people around me come and say please don't do that cause it going lower their property value I going say to bad.


The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

/I'll do it if the state forces me to
//but fark you, neighbors
 
2014-01-08 10:00:42 PM

eatin' fetus: worlddan: PainInTheASP: Oh good, both parties are being idiots.  Carry on.

I agree with this but when all is said and done she is merely retarded while HOA's are evil. In any sane world these clauses would be contracts of adhesion and null ab inito. But we live in America, not sanity.

How do you know legal Latin terms but do not know that the plural of HOA does not contain an apostrophe?!

/primal scream
//AAAUUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH


Well the latin was misspelled too
 
2014-01-08 10:02:48 PM

jst3p: EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?


It is a complicated issue and I would need more details before I could give an opinion.


Let me see a picture of her tits.


I'm going to allow this. Counsel, please hand me the photo, which I'm entering as Exhibit XXX
 
2014-01-08 10:03:27 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: cuzsis: you are a puppet: ReapTheChaos: I don't give a shiat what a contract says, an HOA should not be able to foreclose on any home for any reason. They can take the person to court and garnish their wages if necessary, but taking their home is simply farked up.

Agreed. Place a farking lien on it you shiatbags

This.

 Also, how the fark can they legally take a home worth $120,000 for $288?

 Seems like they owe her $119,712...

/she should sue

they are going to do that to the wrong person sometime and we're going to read about a mass murder of all HOA board members.

/no great loss.... should be an interesting thread though.


Well as long as the murderer sends "plenty of notice" I think most people will be fine with it. 

/at least that's the vibe I get from some people on here.
 
2014-01-08 10:03:45 PM

you are a puppet: eatin' fetus: worlddan: PainInTheASP: Oh good, both parties are being idiots.  Carry on.

I agree with this but when all is said and done she is merely retarded while HOA's are evil. In any sane world these clauses would be contracts of adhesion and null ab inito. But we live in America, not sanity.

How do you know legal Latin terms but do not know that the plural of HOA does not contain an apostrophe?!

/primal scream
//AAAUUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH

Well the latin was misspelled too


Shouldn't that be "nihil", not "null"?

/IANAL
//but IAAC
 
2014-01-08 10:04:14 PM
Idiot.

/still hate HOAs
 
2014-01-08 10:04:30 PM

FrancoFile: EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?

Did she send that notice registered mail?  If so, then she's got a leg to stand on.


She went to the HOA office gave them a notice in person - she paid the fees for several months with checks with the right address, and once the attorneys got involved they sent everything to the right address

She could have paid the back fees...they weren't that much, she didn't know it was being turned over to attorneys, now she has almost 4 grand in fees for less than 500 bucks in back payments
 
2014-01-08 10:04:40 PM
She likens the experience to her father's in East Germany, where the communist state took away property rights. "Now I'm 75, and the same thing is happening to me, in America," she says. With her once-good credit damaged, she is unable to buy another house, and now rents her old one from the new owner for $900 a month.

Yes, failing to live up to contractual obligations you voluntarily entered into when purchasing your home is  exactly the same as the Soviet takeover of East Germany.
 
2014-01-08 10:05:41 PM

cuzsis: HindiDiscoMonster: cuzsis: you are a puppet: ReapTheChaos: I don't give a shiat what a contract says, an HOA should not be able to foreclose on any home for any reason. They can take the person to court and garnish their wages if necessary, but taking their home is simply farked up.

Agreed. Place a farking lien on it you shiatbags

This.

 Also, how the fark can they legally take a home worth $120,000 for $288?

 Seems like they owe her $119,712...

/she should sue

they are going to do that to the wrong person sometime and we're going to read about a mass murder of all HOA board members.

/no great loss.... should be an interesting thread though.

Well as long as the murderer sends "plenty of notice" I think most people will be fine with it. 

/at least that's the vibe I get from some people on here.


Sometimes people don't see the point in differentiating between what is legal and what is just. But yeah, this thread has Milgram experiment written all over it.
 
2014-01-08 10:06:34 PM
If HOAs are so cash poor and struggling maybe some of them are open to releasing the covenants on individual properties with in it for a sufficiently large premium.
 
2014-01-08 10:07:39 PM
i.imgur.com

I still think of this every time I hear HOA. I'm still sure to HOA's, this plays out less like a horror/comedy episode and more like wishful thinking.
 
2014-01-08 10:08:19 PM

EffervescingElephant: FrancoFile: EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?

Did she send that notice registered mail?  If so, then she's got a leg to stand on.

She went to the HOA office gave them a notice in person - she paid the fees for several months with checks with the right address, and once the attorneys got involved they sent everything to the right address

She could have paid the back fees...they weren't that much, she didn't know it was being turned over to attorneys, now she has almost 4 grand in fees for less than 500 bucks in back payments


She has a divorce attorney, yes?  He ought to be able to handle this.  Mgmt company screwed up and a lawyer-to-lawyer talk should get them to back down.
 
2014-01-08 10:09:14 PM

cuzsis: Also, how the fark can they legally take a home worth $120,000 for $288?

Seems like they owe her $119,712...


They don't keep all the money - just the fine + the cost of forcing a foreclosure. Of course, if she had a mortgage to pay, the rest of the money would go to the bank to pay the mortgage. Since the house is usually sold at auction for a lot less than it's worth, the former owner is on the hook for the remainder. In her case, it's $30,000.
 
2014-01-08 10:10:15 PM

you are a puppet: EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?

Check the rules for service of process in your state



Thanks...i will check into that - that's a good idea - appreciate it
 
2014-01-08 10:10:17 PM
Yeah, she's an idiot.

People not honoring their commitments.
 
2014-01-08 10:13:07 PM
I love the fact that my San Diego-area neighborhood isn't run by a HOA. Want to paint your house florescent green or purple? Go for it. Leave your palm trees wrapped in Christmas lights year round? Yep, that's me. Xeriscape the shiat out of your lawn or, hell, don't even mow it? Cool. I love the fact that funkiness runs rampant where I live. Then again, it's sunny and 70 degrees virtually year 'round and I can walk to the beach, so I really don't care. I suppose that's the attitude of most people here.
 
2014-01-08 10:14:49 PM
I have an HOA. It covers the airport in my back yard and 100mbit Internet. Fees are cheaper than buying internet myself per month.The only thing banned are horses, they don't seem to be compatible with airplanes and an airport community. Other than that I can do whatever I want. I can unload a 75 round drum of my ak47 right from my front porch. no one blinks. The first week I moved in the HOA guys invited me out onto the strip at night to spotlight pigs and armadillos and take care of them. Everyone has acreage and what rules there are are not really enforced and there's too few people as permanent residents to make a quorum so the HOA is basically defunct, but everyone mostly still pays fees because they can't get anything else even close, cheaper.
 
2014-01-08 10:16:47 PM
i pay quite a bit for my HOA, 320 a quarter, but for that we get a really nice park with a couple lakes stocked for fishing, a boat house with canoes, paddle boats and sail boats to take out. An excercise center with tons of machines, a lap pool, a small water park.. we get quite a bit out of it. i don't really mind paying for it. and yet conceptually im against the whole thing, and next time around im looking for no HOA.
 
2014-01-08 10:17:13 PM

czei: 3. The dark admins have no way of keeping track of past stories.


www.reactiongifs.com
 
2014-01-08 10:17:40 PM

LemSkroob: ReapTheChaos: I don't give a shiat what a contract says, an HOA should not be able to foreclose on any home for any reason. They can take the person to court and garnish their wages if necessary, but taking their home is simply farked up.

or just keep a tab open, document everything very well, and take your cut when the house is eventually sold.

There. no evictions, and the HOA gets paid.


This is what our county does.  When you are an old fart you can apply to have your property taxes delayed until you sell it.
 
2014-01-08 10:17:41 PM

drumhellar: They don't keep all the money - just the fine + the cost of forcing a foreclosure.


this. fark has been flooded with too many uneducated people lately. they have no understanding of basic civil law.
 
2014-01-08 10:17:43 PM
While I think that force-selling a home over $300 when they could have put a lien on the property is a crappy thing to do, I can't really get past the point that she is trying to compare this experience to East Germany taking away property rights.

East Germany did not send people 30 notices of being late to pay over a course of 6 years.  East Germany took whatever they wanted for whatever purpose the government chose.

She failed to pay your bills or bother to open your mail after moving into a neighborhood with an HOA.  There are so many steps along the way that she could caused this to never occur, no matter how unjust that such a thing is possible for an HOA to do - I am certainly in the camp who feels that the worst they should be able to do is sue you for the amount owed, plus legal fees, and put a lien on your property (or a wage garnishment, or whatever other legal options that they may have to collect.)

I don't think she should have lost her home over $300.  I do think that she is completely delusional about what actually just occurred to her, though.
 
2014-01-08 10:20:01 PM
LOL at a bunch of apartment dwellers lashing out at HOA's. You pay hundreds a month to follow rules and don't even have any equity to show for it
 
2014-01-08 10:21:28 PM

JoieD'Zen: kregh99: "For six years, Ingrid Boak, who travels a lot for work as a racehorse trainer, ignored mail from her homeowner association."

I stopped reading there.  I live in a development with an HOA.  I pay $200.00 a year.  I get upkeep on all the common ground, storm drains, snow removal, and a few other minor perks.  I was informed of this when we put a bid on the house.

Really don't have a problem with them, and this woman is an idiot.  If the HOA waited 6 years, they have been more than fair to her.

She is a Horse Trainer; this makes money for people with racing interests. She MUST travel.


Yep.

For YEARS she ignored the notices because she thought it was voluntary and she wasn't using the common elements (hint: that is never a defense.  Try not paying part of your property tax because you don't visit the parks) so she didn't call anyone or write letters or DOUBLE check her closing paperwork.  She ignored everything.
 
2014-01-08 10:21:29 PM

oldwolf49: welcome to the NEW and IMPROVED 'merica


I bet you're one of those people that fails out of highschool and then blames McDonald's for not paying you enough.

Cause and effect is a real thing. It's not some mystery beyond comprehension.
 
2014-01-08 10:21:47 PM
sHiat OuttA luck
 
2014-01-08 10:25:13 PM
Nail the HOA for theft.
 
2014-01-08 10:25:28 PM

drumhellar: cuzsis: Also, how the fark can they legally take a home worth $120,000 for $288?

Seems like they owe her $119,712...

They don't keep all the money - just the fine + the cost of forcing a foreclosure. Of course, if she had a mortgage to pay, the rest of the money would go to the bank to pay the mortgage. Since the house is usually sold at auction for a lot less than it's worth, the former owner is on the hook for the remainder. In her case, it's $30,000.


Agreeing to sell the house for less than it was worth is their problem/stupidity. It doesn't change what the house was worth as an asset to both the bank the homeowner. And that was made by a professional assessment by the county and/or bank when she bought the house. This means they essentially "stole" money from her. And it was a hell of a lot more than $288.

Perhaps she can sell their houses now?

 It would be like if someone took your car, sold it for $12 and gave you the $12 as "payment" for the car. Pretty sure you'd throw their ass in jail for felonious theft, yes?

 /I'm not saying the home owner isn't stupid, she definitely is, but in this case the HOA is the greater of the two....by a lot.
 
2014-01-08 10:26:36 PM

FrancoFile: EffervescingElephant: FrancoFile: EffervescingElephant: Maybe one of you Farkers with a GED in law can help me with this one - my girlfriend has a similar situation, the HOA is in the process of placing a lien on her property because of some missed payments...

She is recently divorced and moved into one of her rental properties, she notified the HOA that she was moving in there, and asked them in writing to send all correspondence to the new address, that she going through a divorce and didnt want any mail going to an ex-husband.

She missed a few payments and they tacked a notice on the door with the lien notice and the attorney representing them...the back payments are only a few hundred bucks, but the attorneys want over 3,500 in fees.

They sent all correspondence/notices to her old address, even after being told not to...is there anything she can do to fight it?

Did she send that notice registered mail?  If so, then she's got a leg to stand on.

She went to the HOA office gave them a notice in person - she paid the fees for several months with checks with the right address, and once the attorneys got involved they sent everything to the right address

She could have paid the back fees...they weren't that much, she didn't know it was being turned over to attorneys, now she has almost 4 grand in fees for less than 500 bucks in back payments

She has a divorce attorney, yes?  He ought to be able to handle this.  Mgmt company screwed up and a lawyer-to-lawyer talk should get them to back down.



Yea...her divorce is final. All of this happened after the divorce was finalized, it was only a few months of missed payments, she was unemployed for a short spell and couldn't afford them. So no lawyer...we were trying to figure out if there was a way to fight this without one, we just cant afford one right now. She has tried to speak to the HOA, hell they all live in her building, they wont speak to her - she has tried to speak to the lawyers, in person, on the phone and in writing - they will not speak to her either.

I think we are just going to have to eat this one
 
2014-01-08 10:27:33 PM
More I hear about HOAs the more I like my property in a small town with 15 acres.
 
2014-01-08 10:27:59 PM
All of you HOA fellating douches make me sick.

/never owned a home. You're all farked.
 
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