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2014-01-09 01:49:11 AM  

s2s2s2: Kinda spooky that that dude worried about hospice patients dying. I guess with the way we are speculating, Foye must have been in on it, too!


Foye was trying to get the lanes back open.

What that exchange showed was Foye, a Cuomo-appointed member of the PA board, observing the media backlash after the first day of lane closures (Monday, bear in mind, this whole deal went on a whole week), apparently didn't even know it was going to happen as procedures weren't followed, and issued an immediate reversal of the decision and ordered the lanes back open Tuesday morning. Then Christie's people basically said "we need to talk about this before you start doing reversals and for the extra cherry on top "there can be no public discourse"

Now, I'm still not saying Christie himself had anything to do with it.. there's still no evidence to that effect (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "speculation"), but that Christie's -people- at least were clearly doing malicious and underhanded things.. there's no "speculation" about that.

Now as for my personal opinion on whether Christie is involved, c'mon man.. are you saying this is going to be the first time in recent political history that it actually WAS just overzealous staffers?
 
2014-01-09 01:54:12 AM  

The Bestest: s2s2s2: Kinda spooky that that dude worried about hospice patients dying. I guess with the way we are speculating, Foye must have been in on it, too!

Foye was trying to get the lanes back open.

What that exchange showed was Foye, a Cuomo-appointed member of the PA board, observing the media backlash after the first day of lane closures (Monday, bear in mind, this whole deal went on a whole week), apparently didn't even know it was going to happen as procedures weren't followed, and issued an immediate reversal of the decision and ordered the lanes back open Tuesday morning. Then Christie's people basically said "we need to talk about this before you start doing reversals and for the extra cherry on top "there can be no public discourse"

Now, I'm still not saying Christie himself had anything to do with it.. there's still no evidence to that effect (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "speculation"), but that Christie's -people- at least were clearly doing malicious and underhanded things.. there's no "speculation" about that.

Now as for my personal opinion on whether Christie is involved, c'mon man.. are you saying this is going to be the first time in recent political history that it actually WAS just overzealous staffers?


It wouldn't be the first time, but I don't have a hard time believing Christie was involved. Still want proof, first.
 
2014-01-09 02:48:48 AM  
High-ranking Republican officials now are saying, "Damn, ol' Obama-pandering fat-ass has a big pair of elephant brassies after all. Willing to bring misery to thousands out of political spite? Welcome back to the party, Governor!"
 
2014-01-09 04:49:06 AM  

LessO2: AeAe: LessO2: Witty_Retort: At least nobody died.

Except this woman.

When homicide charges are brought against one of these jokers, someone will roll on Christie.

Calm down, even Dick Wolf or Jack McCoy couldn't make homicide charges stick.  Way too much to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" for homicide.

Take a deep breath and see how things play out.

If I learned anything in my travels in the Internet, it's this:

"Homicide" is not a charge.  It's just legalese for "unnatural death".  So a suicide would a form of homicide.

The charges would be voluntary/involuntary manslaughter or murder .. which comes down to "intent" and malice.

IANAL, but my guess, if appropriate would be involuntary manslaughter.

That would require proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the woman would have lived had the paramedics arrived that about four minutes earlier, as they estimated they would have were it not for the traffic.  Given there probably were no doctors at the scene to testify as to her medical condition four minutes prior to the paramedics arriving (let alone knowing what her vital signs were at the moment), I don't think you can prove, again, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the woman would have lived simply based on the four or so extra minutes.

I'm not saying she would or wouldn't have lived, but I am saying it seems to prove that in a court of law would be an extraordinary thing.

Not trying to find a way out for government slime balls, I just don't think the case can be legally made for homicide, manslaughter or whatever.  Too much reasonable doubt and likely not enough proof.


She was 91 years old. She was going to die no matter what.
 
2014-01-09 04:55:13 AM  
meh... I never liked christie...  he seems two faced and probably should switch over to the demcratic party.  it I just get the vibe that he belongs there...
 
2014-01-09 04:59:57 AM  

s2s2s2: Dusk-You-n-Me: s2s2s2: Nah. I just don't care.

And what better way to show your indifference to this scandal than to show up and post in this thread. Just walk away.

Stuff it, Potsey.


I think you mean "sit on it"
 
2014-01-09 05:05:35 AM  

Mrtraveler01: So what was this "traffic study" about anyways?


studying traffic patterns when you shut down traffic lanes...
 
2014-01-09 06:51:24 AM  
hey, you'd be irritable and petty if you hadn't moved your bowels is over a decade
 
2014-01-09 07:55:10 AM  

s2s2s2: I have no dog in this fight.


You say that every time you staunchly defend republicans, but also don't care about any of it. Posting for hours on end, but you don't care and you're not even a republican. You do this every week, it's bizarre.
 
2014-01-09 08:07:26 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: I have no dog in this fight.

You say that every time you staunchly defend republicans, but also don't care about any of it. Posting for hours on end, but you don't care and you're not even a republican. You do this every week, it's bizarre.


"Staunchly". That's cute.
 
2014-01-09 08:08:33 AM  

ransack.: s2s2s2: Dusk-You-n-Me: s2s2s2: Nah. I just don't care.

And what better way to show your indifference to this scandal than to show up and post in this thread. Just walk away.

Stuff it, Potsey.

I think you mean "sit on it"


May the force be ever in your favor!
 
2014-01-09 08:08:47 AM  

LessO2: Witty_Retort: At least nobody died.

Except this woman.

When homicide charges are brought against one of these jokers, someone will roll on Christie.

Calm down, even Dick Wolf or Jack McCoy couldn't make homicide charges stick.  Way too much to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" for homicide.

Take a deep breath and see how things play out.


Ah-ah-ah. If what they did (the lane closures for no reason) was a 
felony (And if calling in a bomb threat to do the same thing is a felony, I'm not sure why this isn't), then couldn't 'Felony Murder' rules apply? After all, if someone dies in the comission of your felony, EVEN IF IT'S A HEART ATTACK, you can be charged with murder, no? (In states that have Felony Murder laws, anyways).

 

ransack.: She was 91 years old. She was going to die no matter what.


If Jersey has felony murder rules, and the shiat they pulled was a felony, I don't think it matters.
 
2014-01-09 08:17:15 AM  

Felgraf: After all, if someone dies in the comission of your felony, EVEN IF IT'S A HEART ATTACK, you can be charged with murder, no? (In states that have Felony Murder laws, anyways).


Not just any felony, no.


Felgraf: (And if calling in a bomb threat to do the same thing is a felony, I'm not sure why this isn't),


Because it doesn't involve a farking bomb threat?!
 
2014-01-09 08:21:57 AM  

s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: I have no dog in this fight.

You say that every time you staunchly defend republicans, but also don't care about any of it. Posting for hours on end, but you don't care and you're not even a republican. You do this every week, it's bizarre.

"Staunchly". That's cute.


I'll make sure to point it out for you every time, you seem to be completely unaware of your own actions. Maybe an aide was typing all that for you and just didn't tell you?
 
2014-01-09 08:23:53 AM  
Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.
 
2014-01-09 08:24:18 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: I have no dog in this fight.

You say that every time you staunchly defend republicans, but also don't care about any of it. Posting for hours on end, but you don't care and you're not even a republican. You do this every week, it's bizarre.

"Staunchly". That's cute.

I'll make sure to point it out for you every time, you seem to be completely unaware of your own actions. Maybe an aide was typing all that for you and just didn't tell you?


You seem to be unaware of what I've posted, and are going on assumptions, based on assumptions you've made in the past. That's your problem. Enjoy it.
 
2014-01-09 08:25:24 AM  

Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.


Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.
 
2014-01-09 08:25:55 AM  

s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: I have no dog in this fight.

You say that every time you staunchly defend republicans, but also don't care about any of it. Posting for hours on end, but you don't care and you're not even a republican. You do this every week, it's bizarre.

"Staunchly". That's cute.

I'll make sure to point it out for you every time, you seem to be completely unaware of your own actions. Maybe an aide was typing all that for you and just didn't tell you?

You seem to be unaware of what I've posted, and are going on assumptions, based on assumptions you've made in the past. That's your problem. Enjoy it.


I've demonstrated fairly clearly that I can read, you're just not really as clever as you imagine. You fill a defined role, whether you're aware of it or not.
 
2014-01-09 08:27:10 AM  

s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.


LOL

You're just so detached and oblivious! This puts you above it all. Hell, you don't even care about any of this.
 
2014-01-09 08:27:52 AM  

s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.


They all say that.
 
2014-01-09 08:28:17 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: I have no dog in this fight.

You say that every time you staunchly defend republicans, but also don't care about any of it. Posting for hours on end, but you don't care and you're not even a republican. You do this every week, it's bizarre.

"Staunchly". That's cute.

I'll make sure to point it out for you every time, you seem to be completely unaware of your own actions. Maybe an aide was typing all that for you and just didn't tell you?

You seem to be unaware of what I've posted, and are going on assumptions, based on assumptions you've made in the past. That's your problem. Enjoy it.

I've demonstrated fairly clearly that I can read, you're just not really as clever as you imagine. You fill a defined role, whether you're aware of it or not.


I didn't question you're ability to read, but you just did a great job of calling your comprehension into doubt. My role is to call out weak shiat like this.
 
2014-01-09 08:29:35 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

LOL

You're just so detached and oblivious! This puts you above it all. Hell, you don't even care about any of this.


Is this pornhub? Where am I? Whatever.
 
2014-01-09 08:30:38 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.


Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.
 
2014-01-09 08:31:02 AM  

s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: I have no dog in this fight.

You say that every time you staunchly defend republicans, but also don't care about any of it. Posting for hours on end, but you don't care and you're not even a republican. You do this every week, it's bizarre.

"Staunchly". That's cute.

I'll make sure to point it out for you every time, you seem to be completely unaware of your own actions. Maybe an aide was typing all that for you and just didn't tell you?

You seem to be unaware of what I've posted, and are going on assumptions, based on assumptions you've made in the past. That's your problem. Enjoy it.

I've demonstrated fairly clearly that I can read, you're just not really as clever as you imagine. You fill a defined role, whether you're aware of it or not.

I didn't question you're ability to read, but you just did a great job of calling your comprehension into doubt. My role is to call out weak shiat like this.


Yeah, that's what's happening. Whatevs amirite, you don't even care.
 
2014-01-09 08:37:59 AM  

s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.

Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.



How's that working out for you, beingwilfully obtuse?
 
2014-01-09 08:41:02 AM  
This will be your next president. Enjoy!
 
2014-01-09 08:43:27 AM  

doubled99: This will be your next president. Enjoy!


I will bet you all of the money that you're wrong. All of it.
 
2014-01-09 08:44:01 AM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: "Willing to bring misery to thousands out of political spite? Welcome back to the party, Governor!"

It is the Chicago way.



marinevetforfreedom.files.wordpress.com


Park Service ranger: "We've been told to make life as difficult for people as we can


l3.yimg.com
 
2014-01-09 08:49:23 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.

Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.


How's that working out for you, beingwilfully obtuse?


About as well as your being a presumptuous prick is working out for you, I'd guess.
 
2014-01-09 08:50:38 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: I have no dog in this fight.

You say that every time you staunchly defend republicans, but also don't care about any of it. Posting for hours on end, but you don't care and you're not even a republican. You do this every week, it's bizarre.

"Staunchly". That's cute.

I'll make sure to point it out for you every time, you seem to be completely unaware of your own actions. Maybe an aide was typing all that for you and just didn't tell you?

You seem to be unaware of what I've posted, and are going on assumptions, based on assumptions you've made in the past. That's your problem. Enjoy it.

I've demonstrated fairly clearly that I can read, you're just not really as clever as you imagine. You fill a defined role, whether you're aware of it or not.

I didn't question you're ability to read, but you just did a great job of calling your comprehension into doubt. My role is to call out weak shiat like this.

Yeah, that's what's happening. Whatevs amirite, you don't even care.


I care enough to argue on the internet. Do you tell yourself that's caring?
 
2014-01-09 08:51:11 AM  

s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.

Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.


How's that working out for you, beingwilfully obtuse?

About as well as your being a presumptuous prick is working out for you, I'd guess.



*Top Gun volleyball high five*
 
2014-01-09 08:53:32 AM  
Trolls can't resist a bridge thread.
 
2014-01-09 08:53:41 AM  

s2s2s2: I care enough to argue on the internet. Do you tell yourself that's caring?


Weren't you at this last night before I went to bed? Anyone who argues on the internet THIS long cares or has absolutely nothing in life to care about.
 
2014-01-09 09:01:22 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: *Top Gun volleyball high five*


Now you're just flirting.

Confabulat: Anyone who argues on the internet THIS long cares or has absolutely nothing in life to care about


I appreciate your professional diagnosis, Dr.
 
2014-01-09 09:13:20 AM  

RexTalionis: "I am outraged and deeply saddened to learn that not only was I misled by a member of my staff, but this completely inappropriate and unsanctioned conduct was made without my knowledge."

Did you hear that? Chris Christie's really the victim in all of this!


He's just pulling a page from the Obama playbook for avoiding scandal.  "I found out just like everyone else, when I saw it on the news."

He is just a bystander Governor.
 
2014-01-09 09:16:14 AM  

SlothB77: He's just pulling a page from the Obama playbook for avoiding scandal.  "I found out just like everyone else, when I saw it on the news."


Don't you go pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of these fine farkers!
 
2014-01-09 09:17:51 AM  

s2s2s2: Nah, just unfamiliar with NJ geography. Guess it was plumb crazy to think something about a traffic study was related to this story about a traffic study.


"flailing"
 
2014-01-09 09:25:08 AM  

thurstonxhowell: doubled99: This will be your next president. Enjoy!

I will bet you all of the money that you're wrong. All of it.


Of course Christie won't win now. Blocking traffic on bridges isn't part of the Warrior's Code.
 
2014-01-09 09:26:32 AM  

s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.

Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.


How's that working out for you, beingwilfully obtuse?

About as well as your being a presumptuous prick is working out for you, I'd guess.


Someone has a bit of temper this morning. I thought you didn't care.
 
2014-01-09 09:27:48 AM  

Confabulat: s2s2s2: I care enough to argue on the internet. Do you tell yourself that's caring?

Weren't you at this last night before I went to bed? Anyone who argues on the internet THIS long cares or has absolutely nothing in life to care about.


imgs.xkcd.com
/oblig
 
2014-01-09 09:29:39 AM  
Never trust Republicans on your staff. Especially if you're a RINO.
 
2014-01-09 09:29:52 AM  
This will be your next president. Enjoy!

I will bet you all of the money that you're wrong. All of it.



Name the price, my friend. Chris Christie will be the next president. And Hilary will ensure it.
 
2014-01-09 09:34:19 AM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.

Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.


How's that working out for you, beingwilfully obtuse?

About as well as your being a presumptuous prick is working out for you, I'd guess.

Someone has a bit of temper this morning. I thought you didn't care.


That's smartassery, not anger. Welcome to fark.
 
2014-01-09 09:34:38 AM  
The very least he should have said: "This behavior is not representative of me or my administration in any way, and I have asked for Bridget Anne Kelly's resignation, effective immediately."

When did asking for a resignation become the norm for anyone making more than 50k a year?

If she is guilty, fire her.
 
2014-01-09 09:34:58 AM  

cryinoutloud: s2s2s2: Nah, just unfamiliar with NJ geography. Guess it was plumb crazy to think something about a traffic study was related to this story about a traffic study.

"flailing"


"Farking that chicken"
 
2014-01-09 09:35:56 AM  

s2s2s2: the_vegetarian_cannibal: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.

Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.


How's that working out for you, beingwilfully obtuse?

About as well as your being a presumptuous prick is working out for you, I'd guess.

Someone has a bit of temper this morning. I thought you didn't care.

That's smartassery, not anger. Welcome to fark.


Yep, that's what they all say.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-09 09:37:10 AM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: s2s2s2: the_vegetarian_cannibal: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.

Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.


How's that working out for you, beingwilfully obtuse?

About as well as your being a presumptuous prick is working out for you, I'd guess.

Someone has a bit of temper this morning. I thought you didn't care.

That's smartassery, not anger. Welcome to fark.

Yep, that's what they all say.

[i.imgur.com image 616x1024]


Yup, and that's what they all post in response. I guess you win. You posted a meme.

/falls down dead from your flawless victory
 
2014-01-09 09:40:30 AM  

mrsirjojo: The very least he should have said: "This behavior is not representative of me or my administration in any way, and I have asked for Bridget Anne Kelly's resignation, effective immediately."

When did asking for a resignation become the norm for anyone making more than 50k a year?

If she is guilty, fire her.


If she's fired, it's pretty much an admission of guilt... If she resigns, there's plausible deniability. She can say she resigned to remove the distraction of this witch hunt and allow Christie to govern... or some such nonsense.

Christie's screwed though. This is going to be used as a cudgel against him, and rightfully so, should he run for president.

This basically shatters the illusion that Christie is a moderate, commonsense politician, and revels him for the petty bully he is.
 
2014-01-09 09:45:59 AM  

Latinwolf: bronyaur1: I think that this is an unforgivable stunt, and that if he was involved, he is unfit for the office of governor, and should be booted.

That said, enough with the fat jokes already - they just damage a lot of good arguments about why he is a shiat.

You sound fat.


Not particularly.
 
2014-01-09 09:46:02 AM  

s2s2s2: the_vegetarian_cannibal: s2s2s2: the_vegetarian_cannibal: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: s2s2s2: Joe Blowme: Good, hope this kills his chance at POTUS.

Has he even said he had any? I thought he said he wasn't interested.

They all say that.

Then they must all be lying. Hillary said she absolutely won't run. I'll call that a lie when she runs.


How's that working out for you, beingwilfully obtuse?

About as well as your being a presumptuous prick is working out for you, I'd guess.

Someone has a bit of temper this morning. I thought you didn't care.

That's smartassery, not anger. Welcome to fark.

Yep, that's what they all say.

[i.imgur.com image 616x1024]

Yup, and that's what they all post in response. I guess you win. You posted a meme.

/falls down dead from your flawless victory


*pats you on head*
 
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