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(Pro Football Talk)   Johhny Manziel files his application to be the fall-guy for the Houston Texans next season   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 29
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2014-01-08 02:59:32 PM
2 votes:
I would rather have his receivers at TAM. Those guys are the ones that made him look so good. After he ran around the backfield and chucked the ball in the air up for grabs, those guys were the ones going up and fight off the DB's to get the ball.
2014-01-08 11:12:42 PM
1 votes:

Ivandrago: lecavalier: And we agree on this one. He'll obviously have to tame his Johnny Football act because defensive ends at the NFL level aren't going to fall for his pirouettes every time like they do at this level (but, once every other week, he will Johnny Football some poor defender; much to our enjoyment).

I'm okay with him Johnny Footballing every other week if I get to watch him get levelled on a consistent basis by 180lb CB's and 220lb SS's.


What he's going to discover upon reaching the NFL is that there are 6'4", 265 lb. OLBs that can catch his ass. That's a discovery that's going to hurt.
2014-01-08 10:35:43 PM
1 votes:

Cowboy Spencer: Now we'll talk about Tebow.

I'm really curious why you think Tebow is better than Manziel.

Tebow's highest completion percentage was 67.8, his senior year.  Manziel's lowest was 68.0.

Manziel had 63 passing TDs in 2 years, Tebow had 88 passing TDs in 4 years (one of which he wasn't a starter).

Career ypa:  Tebow 9.3, Manziel 9.1.

Career ypr:  Tebow 4.3, Manziel 6.3.

Tebow was one of the best players ever to play NCAAF.  Manziel is as good in most categories, and better in many.


I think the salient point to make is....Teblow was a stats god and so overhyped it ain't even funny...and he was reach-drafted in the first round. Anyone that ISN'T  a jesus freak or a one-team homer can watch his tape and realize he's actually a piss-poor NFL QB.

And then, you look at Manzeil, his numbers and playing style, and go..."Oh shiat, he's ... a slightly better runner and a slightly better passer *than Tebow*."

And, with that, the elevator light-bulb DING goes off in your head and realize how bad it *could* go for him in the NFL. And you start offering Jobu really good rum to make him block your teams' GM from even being aware of the NAME Manziel during March of this year.
2014-01-08 07:41:50 PM
1 votes:
RumsfeldsReplacement:

Just stop it Subby, we all know the Browns will draft Manziel and it will be hilarious.

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/ ... please ?
2014-01-08 05:25:44 PM
1 votes:
I like cauliflower.
2014-01-08 04:26:47 PM
1 votes:

xaks: Tim Tebow


Tebow's best passing season:  3286 yards (66.9%), 32 TDs.
Manziel's best passing season:  4114 yards (69.9%), 37 TDs.

Tebow's best rushing season:  910 yards (4.3 ypc), 14 TDs
Manziel's best rushing season:  1410 yards (7.0 ypc),  21 TDs

Manziel is better than Tebow.
2014-01-08 04:03:16 PM
1 votes:

Cowboy Spencer: AdmirableSnackbar: Please back up this statement, Kanye.

LMGTFY.

He holds the first three spots on the record books for total offense in a game in the SEC.
He holds the record for most total offense in a season in the SEC.
He holds the NCAA freshman record for total offense, and for rushing yards by a QB.
First freshman in NCAA history with 3000+ passing yards and 1000+ rushing yards in a season.
He was the fastest player in NCAA history to reach 7000 yards in total offense.

He was the first freshman to win the Heisman.  And this season, he outperformed the player who was awarded the Heisman.


And zero championships of any kind to show for it.  He's the Matt Stafford of NCAA football - great stats, not a winner.  He's not even one of the greatest college football players of the past 10 years, let alone all time.

And your statistical analysis punishes Jameis Winston who had a running attack that meant he wasn't passing or running it himself all of the time.  I'm sure you had fun watching Johnny Fraudball, but that doesn't mean he was one of the best of all time.
2014-01-08 03:57:22 PM
1 votes:
He is falling to the Vikings, where he will flounder for a few years before ultimatley not being the right fit.

Duh.
2014-01-08 03:47:33 PM
1 votes:

AdmirableSnackbar: Please back up this statement, Kanye.


LMGTFY.

He holds the first three spots on the record books for total offense in a game in the SEC.
He holds the record for most total offense in a season in the SEC.
He holds the NCAA freshman record for total offense, and for rushing yards by a QB.
First freshman in NCAA history with 3000+ passing yards and 1000+ rushing yards in a season.
He was the fastest player in NCAA history to reach 7000 yards in total offense.

He was the first freshman to win the Heisman.  And this season, he outperformed the player who was awarded the Heisman.
2014-01-08 03:47:03 PM
1 votes:
Prediction - Houston trades the pick with the Raiders for their first, a second, and Matt McGloin.  O'Brien will want nothing to do with Manziel, but Mark Davis needs to sell seats

/i'll shiat if this actually happens though
2014-01-08 03:40:36 PM
1 votes:

ongbok: I hate when people trot this out. They all seem to forget that Winston rarely played past halfway through the third quarter.


I didn't forget.  I ran an analysis that showed they played roughly the same percentage of their team's plays this season.

I initially found an analysis that suggested this, but only broke it down by quarter.  Then I did my own by play, and found similar results.
2014-01-08 03:32:47 PM
1 votes:
Aggie fan here:  Manziel was one of the greatest college football players of all time.  This year, he had better stats than Jameis Winston against tougher competition (even if you include the two down games Manziel had at the end of the season when he was nursing an injury).

If he's going to make it in the NFL, he has to a) accept a lot of coaching, and b) be ready to sit for a couple of years behind a veteran.

I don't think he's any less mature than your typical 20 year old, but I guess time will tell.  It's got to be hard to keep your head about you when everybody is telling you you're a god.

plcow: But nobody ever asks for a coke and expects a dr. pepper.  It flat out never happens.


It happens all the time here in Texas.
2014-01-08 03:24:45 PM
1 votes:
As a Husker (not a student but family of former alumni) I got to see him mutilate the Husker defense for a half before Dennard jumped him and got them both tossed.  He is a monster and I love seeing receivers work like him,
2014-01-08 03:18:51 PM
1 votes:

lecavalier: Ivandrago: lecavalier: Ivandrago: What is he? 5'10'' and 175lbs? He's going to get crushed the first time he holds on to the ball too long trying to create some of his Johnny Football magic.

Why do people think he is that small?  I am a bartender in a sports bar so I talk about college football a lot and I have never met one person that realizes he is 6'1, 210. And even if you want to call that program weight, then he is 6'0/200. Nobody is even close when guessing how big he is.

Because that's what teams do. South Carolina did it all year with Connor Shaw. Listing him as 6'1 209. It's hard to call someone 6'1 when they're barely two inches taller than the 5'9 running back they're standing next to.

Well, I don't know what to say because this is impossible to argue about. If you want to say that is his program weight, then what can I say? I will just respond that with my eyeballs that I use to watch him on TV, I don't see a lie in 6'1/210.


Either way, he doesn't have prototypical NFL QB height and his NCAA-level elusiveness won't translate to the NFL because he's not big enough and not fast enough, and his arm isn't good enough for teams to wait it out while he figures out how to play at the next level.  He might - might - stick it out as a backup, but I doubt he'll last in the NFL through his rookie deal.
2014-01-08 03:12:50 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 229x188]

/Seriously, keep that prima donna douche away from my Texans


Yeah no, he's a project.  I know some GM/front office guy is going to convince themselves to think this guy can play week 1; he's got a better arm than Tebow but that's about it.
2014-01-08 03:11:35 PM
1 votes:

ongbok: chapman: There is already a draft Johnny movement going in Houston.  http://www.draftjohnnymanziel.com/

You know if they don't draft him they are going to have a backlash like the Pacers did when they drafted Reggie Miller instead of Steve Alford.


Yeah, and since the Texans FO doesn't have the IQ of a potato (Ed Reed notwithstanding), they'll ignore that backlash.  Then, a few years later, they'll be sitting smug watching all of the people who bashed their draft choices eating crow a-la JJ Watt and Mario Williams.  They've been here before, and they've got no problems ignoring the idiots in the fanbase because they know those idiots will shut up when the team starts performing.
2014-01-08 03:10:48 PM
1 votes:

IlGreven: fmcgalaxie500: I certainly hope not. Teddy Bridgewater or Blake Bortles

More likely, Manziel will be the next QB to be added to this famous jersey:

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Missing Jason Campbell
2014-01-08 03:09:45 PM
1 votes:

lecavalier: GardenWeasel: lecavalier: As has been spoken about on various blogs/forums, I would not be surprised to see the Texans call New England and get Mallett.

Houston has already said they would consider trading away the 1st pick. Ya never know.

I don't think he warrants a first round pick, but I'm sure New England wouldn't argue.


God no. They trade the 1st to someone else for a buttload of picks, and use some lower pick to grab Mallett
2014-01-08 03:07:12 PM
1 votes:
Yeah all that running around means his knee is going to take a hit in an awkward position.

He won't be twirling around NFL DBs

Just ask rg bobby no knees
2014-01-08 03:06:10 PM
1 votes:

Ivandrago: What is he? 5'10'' and 175lbs? He's going to get crushed the first time he holds on to the ball too long trying to create some of his Johnny Football magic.


Why do people think he is that small?  I am a bartender in a sports bar so I talk about college football a lot and I have never met one person that realizes he is 6'1, 210. And even if you want to call that program weight, then he is 6'0/200. Nobody is even close when guessing how big he is.
2014-01-08 03:05:37 PM
1 votes:
No way in hell.  McNair doesn't want players with the kind of character that Manziel has.  He wants his players to either be totally off the radar (like Andre Johnson), or, if they do have a media personality, be safely quirky (like Arian Foster).  The most famous picture of Johnny Football out there is of him at a kegger with a firework in his mouth.

There is no way Bob "Goody-Two-Shoes" McNair drafts that kind of guy to his team.
2014-01-08 03:02:54 PM
1 votes:
What is he? 5'10'' and 175lbs? He's going to get crushed the first time he holds on to the ball too long trying to create some of his Johnny Football magic.
2014-01-08 03:02:19 PM
1 votes:
Just stop it Subby, we all know the Browns will draft Manziel and it will be hilarious.
2014-01-08 02:51:38 PM
1 votes:

fmcgalaxie500: I certainly hope not. Teddy Bridgewater or Blake Bortles


More likely, Manziel will be the next QB to be added to this famous jersey:

cdn.bleacherreport.net
2014-01-08 02:48:24 PM
1 votes:
There is already a draft Johnny movement going in Houston.  http://www.draftjohnnymanziel.com/
2014-01-08 02:48:18 PM
1 votes:

HawgWild: Who the hell is Johhny Manziel?


The keyboard player from The Doors.  Try to keep up, please.
2014-01-08 02:47:12 PM
1 votes:
I can't wait for Johnny and Timmy fighting it out for ESPN air time.
2014-01-08 02:43:59 PM
1 votes:
My preference on Texans draft picks:

1. Bridgewater
2. HeisManziel
3. Trade down for more picks
2014-01-08 01:53:15 PM
1 votes:
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/Seriously, keep that prima donna douche away from my Texans
 
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