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(BBC)   BBC says it has "no plans" to end Downton Abbey, saying the English class system lasted hundreds of years and it sees no reason the show shouldn't either   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 48
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2014-01-08 08:11:54 AM
....the English class system HAS TO FAR lasted hundreds of years....
 
2014-01-08 08:40:46 AM

colinspooky: ....the English class system HAS TO FAR lasted hundreds of years....


What?
 
2014-01-08 08:44:07 AM

verbaltoxin: colinspooky: ....the English class system HAS TO FAR lasted hundreds of years....

What?


The Hastofar system was where the Jedi defeated the Separatists in Episode III, yes?
 
2014-01-08 08:51:57 AM
Your rite. Corectt. so far, anyway
 
2014-01-08 10:12:15 AM
I really hope that the first scene in series 5 is of Isis chewing on Barrow's remains while Mr. Bates watches.
 
2014-01-08 10:16:36 AM
Their wives would kill them if this gets cancelled.

/47 season and 9 movies
 
2014-01-08 10:16:58 AM
The may not want it toned but Julian Fellows has made it clear he has other plans.
 
2014-01-08 10:17:09 AM
It's a soap opera. Those are the longest continually running shows in history. It has a massive following. The BBC is not a for-profit venture but more income means more interesting shows like red dwarf or top gear, shows which need big budgets just for the premise.

They'd be retarded fools not to fark that corpse into the ground and back out the other side.
 
2014-01-08 10:21:49 AM
B-b-b-b-b-ut they don't believe in multiple seasons on British TV!
 
2014-01-08 10:23:34 AM

kroonermanblack: It's a soap opera. Those are the longest continually running shows in history. It has a massive following. The BBC is not a for-profit venture but more income means more interesting shows like red dwarf or top gear, shows which need big budgets just for the premise.

They'd be retarded fools not to fark that corpse into the ground and back out the other side.


I love their 'Buy a cheap car and drive to some far off place' episodes.
 
2014-01-08 10:24:55 AM
Somewhat misleading headline... the BBC doesn't make or broadcast Downton Abbey.
 
2014-01-08 10:27:37 AM

kroonermanblack: It's a soap opera. Those are the longest continually running shows in history. It has a massive following. The BBC is not a for-profit venture but more income means more interesting shows like red dwarf or top gear, shows which need big budgets just for the premise.

They'd be retarded fools not to fark that corpse into the ground and back out the other side.


Like MinkeyMan said, Downton Abbey is not a BBC production, it's an iTV production, which makes it a commercial broadcast, so it will continue as long as the writer wants to do it and the show gets good ratings.

/God that's a terrible sentence
 
2014-01-08 10:40:02 AM

kroonermanblack: The BBC is not a for-profit venture but more income means more interesting shows like red dwarf or top gear, shows which need big budgets just for the premise.


As expensive as "Top Gear" is to produce*, I'd still wager that it's profitable for the BBC because of it's huge worldwide distribution.  I think they usually say "Top Gear" has a worldwide television audience of 350 million.

*Clarkson once claimed they shoot 200 to 1; for every 200 minutes they shoot, 1 ends up on the air.  The average is 20 to 1.  Although, he is the king of hyperbole, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of his claim.
 
M-G
2014-01-08 10:46:38 AM

MinkeyMan: Somewhat misleading headline... the BBC doesn't make or broadcast Downton Abbey.


Came here to say this.
 
2014-01-08 10:50:06 AM

MinkeyMan: Somewhat misleading headline... the BBC doesn't make or broadcast Downton Abbey.


Also came here to say this...

As well as it's a farking dogs hit programme made by a dogshiat tv channel and I am bloody annoyed that Mr & Mrs Fellowes spermatozoon and egg ever had the misfortune to meet and produce such a camp effeté twat that is Julian
 
2014-01-08 10:59:07 AM
Speaking of the BBC, apparently they're working on a Movie Adaptation of  Pratchett's The Wee Free Men (and his daughter's helping with the script).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498344/
 
2014-01-08 11:00:59 AM
Anyone mentioned it isn't made by the BBC yet?
 
2014-01-08 11:04:34 AM

Felgraf: Speaking of the BBC, apparently they're working on a Movie Adaptation of  Pratchett's The Wee Free Men (and his daughter's helping with the script).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498344/


That's the best news I've heard in days!
 
2014-01-08 11:07:03 AM

INeedAName: kroonermanblack: It's a soap opera. Those are the longest continually running shows in history. It has a massive following. The BBC is not a for-profit venture but more income means more interesting shows like red dwarf or top gear, shows which need big budgets just for the premise.

They'd be retarded fools not to fark that corpse into the ground and back out the other side.

I love their 'Buy a cheap car and drive to some far off place' episodes.


They had one of my favorite ones on the other day. The one where they went to Vietnam and bought mopeds/scooters. And I cant stop laughing at the part where Jeremy was trying to get Richard to eat a "wafer thin sparrow."
 
2014-01-08 11:08:04 AM

notyomama: Felgraf: Speaking of the BBC, apparently they're working on a Movie Adaptation of  Pratchett's The Wee Free Men (and his daughter's helping with the script).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498344/

That's the best news I've heard in days!


Yeah, apparently it came out in november, but I didn't find out about this until now!

(I *DID* already know that she's also helping the BBC make a crime-of-the-week, CSI-ish show... based on the Ankh-Morporhk Watch. I wonder who they'll grab for Vimes.)
 
2014-01-08 11:08:44 AM

Felgraf: Speaking of the BBC, apparently they're working on a Movie Adaptation of  Pratchett's The Wee Free Men (and his daughter's helping with the script).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498344/


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Lady Mary and her grandfather approve
 
2014-01-08 11:40:58 AM
ITV makes and broadcasts Downtown Abbey, you non-Brit fanny.

The BBC, on its news website is reporting a news story about Downtown Abbey. That's the only connection.

ITV =/= BBC
 
2014-01-08 11:47:30 AM

GungFu: ITV makes and broadcasts Downtown Abbey, you non-Brit fanny.

Is that the version with Petula Clark in it?

 
2014-01-08 11:48:11 AM
Do they stil have the cool cars on the show?  Only reason to watch the show.. Have not watched since the 1st season.


www.imcdb.org
www.vh1.com
 
2014-01-08 11:51:43 AM

Polish Hussar: As expensive as "Top Gear" is to produce*, I'd still wager that it's profitable for the BBC because of it's huge worldwide distribution. I think they usually say "Top Gear" has a worldwide television audience of 350 million.


The BBC doesn't make a shilling off of Downton Abbey as it's produced by ITV, which is a private, for-profit TV station, which is why Downton Abbey has commercial breaks in it.
 
2014-01-08 11:56:11 AM

kroonermanblack: It's a soap opera. Those are the longest continually running shows in history. It has a massive following. The BBC is not a for-profit venture but more income means more interesting shows like red dwarf or top gear, shows which need big budgets just for the premise.

They'd be retarded fools not to fark that corpse into the ground and back out the other side.


You just know at some point when all the actors are good and done with it, they'll fast forward to the mid to late thirties and recast everyone.  Center it around some hearthrob as Mary and Matthew's sprog in his twenties, and have some good old World War II era Downton shenanigans.
 
2014-01-08 12:06:52 PM
Meh...  Most soap operas tend to last decades.
 
2014-01-08 12:31:16 PM

Vodka Zombie: Meh...  Most soap operas tend to last decades.


Most soap operas don't cost so much to make.
 
2014-01-08 12:46:11 PM
Yes, DA is a soap opera, yes it's really cheesy sometimes, yes, the way the upstairs and downstairs relate to each other is total fiction (working downstairs in one of those places was a miserable life for the most part) but I love it. I love the settings, the cars, the clothes and the characters are interesting enough chess pieces for the plots.

I've already watched Series 4 + the Christmas Special via file theft, episode one was set in February 1922, the Christmas Special is set in the summer of 1923. The interwar years were very interesting in England, there could be another 3 series, with series 7 ending with the stock market crash and the start of the Great Depression in 1929. At that point, it would be really far-fetched for Lord Grantham and his heirs to still live in a big pile like Downton Abbey with a large staff of servants, but hey, it's teevee.
 
2014-01-08 12:53:37 PM
The show makes me cringe. Everyone upstairs and quite a few of them downstairs are insufferable twats.
 
2014-01-08 01:04:06 PM

Henry Holland: Yes, DA is a soap opera, yes it's really cheesy sometimes, yes, the way the upstairs and downstairs relate to each other is total fiction (working downstairs in one of those places was a miserable life for the most part) but I love it. I love the settings, the cars, the clothes and the characters are interesting enough chess pieces for the plots.

I've already watched Series 4 + the Christmas Special via file theft, episode one was set in February 1922, the Christmas Special is set in the summer of 1923. The interwar years were very interesting in England, there could be another 3 series, with series 7 ending with the stock market crash and the start of the Great Depression in 1929. At that point, it would be really far-fetched for Lord Grantham and his heirs to still live in a big pile like Downton Abbey with a large staff of servants, but hey, it's teevee.


And I am patiently waiting for a Hughes/Carson wedding.
 
2014-01-08 01:09:07 PM

Polish Hussar: As expensive as "Top Gear" is to produce*, I'd still wager that it's profitable for the BBC because of it's huge worldwide distribution. I think they usually say "Top Gear" has a worldwide television audience of 350 million.


turned on the telly in Italy...  the english channel in the hotel was playing "Top Gear."
 
2014-01-08 01:52:43 PM

Henry Holland:  At that point, it would be really far-fetched for Lord Grantham and his heirs to still live in a big pile like Downton Abbey with a large staff of servants, but hey, it's teevee.


If the strongest character on the show, the Dowager Countess, is still alive in 1929, I'll be amazed.
 
2014-01-08 01:57:21 PM

Mad Scientist: Henry Holland:  At that point, it would be really far-fetched for Lord Grantham and his heirs to still live in a big pile like Downton Abbey with a large staff of servants, but hey, it's teevee.

If the strongest character on the show, the Dowager Countess, is still alive in 1929, I'll be amazed.


She'll bury us all.
 
2014-01-08 02:14:01 PM

the_rhino: I really hope that the first scene in series 5 is of Isis chewing on Barrow's remains while Mr. Bates watches.


Mary?


MARY??

MAAAAAAAAAAAA-----REEEEEEEEEE!!!
 
2014-01-08 02:34:10 PM

laughin: Henry Holland: Yes, DA is a soap opera, yes it's really cheesy sometimes, yes, the way the upstairs and downstairs relate to each other is total fiction (working downstairs in one of those places was a miserable life for the most part) but I love it. I love the settings, the cars, the clothes and the characters are interesting enough chess pieces for the plots.

I've already watched Series 4 + the Christmas Special via file theft, episode one was set in February 1922, the Christmas Special is set in the summer of 1923. The interwar years were very interesting in England, there could be another 3 series, with series 7 ending with the stock market crash and the start of the Great Depression in 1929. At that point, it would be really far-fetched for Lord Grantham and his heirs to still live in a big pile like Downton Abbey with a large staff of servants, but hey, it's teevee.

And I am patiently waiting for a Hughes/Carson wedding.


Also waiting for that, and the gratuitous Carson/Hughes sex scene.
 
2014-01-08 03:34:58 PM

the_rhino: I really hope that the first scene in series 5 is of Isis chewing on Barrow's remains while Mr. Bates watches.


Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease!
 
2014-01-08 04:38:04 PM

MinkeyMan: Somewhat misleading headline... the BBC doesn't make or broadcast Downton Abbey.


Thank you, I thought I was the only one really confused by that at first.
 
2014-01-08 04:38:37 PM
someonelse: She'll bury us all.

Time frames of each season:
Series 1: April 1912 > August 1914
Series 2: Battle of the Somme (July 1916) > Armistice Day (11/11/18)
Series 2 Christmas Special: December 1919 > January 1920
Series 3: Spring 1920 > September 1920
Series 3 Christmas Special: September 1921
Series 4: February 1922 > August 1922
Series 4 Christmas Special: Summer 1923

So, they've covered 11 years in 4 series, they could easily make 1929 with Series 5, 6 & 7. Maggie Smith is a spry 79, she should be able to hang in there for another 3 years.

Superrad: the_rhino: I really hope that the first scene in series 5 is of Isis chewing on Barrow's remains while Mr. Bates watches.

Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease!


This x infinity. Now, as a homosexual, I might be a traitor to The Great Gay Cause, but while life for us 'mo's was ghastly in the UK in the 1920's, no excuse for being a bitter sociopath.
 
2014-01-08 05:29:39 PM

verbaltoxin: colinspooky: ....the English class system HAS TO FAR lasted hundreds of years....

What?


Do me so far, do me?
 
2014-01-08 07:14:46 PM
Downton is killing off their cast too fast to stay on for much longer.
 
2014-01-08 07:20:17 PM

Henry Holland: someonelse: She'll bury us all.

Time frames of each season:
Series 1: April 1912 > August 1914
Series 2: Battle of the Somme (July 1916) > Armistice Day (11/11/18)
Series 2 Christmas Special: December 1919 > January 1920
Series 3: Spring 1920 > September 1920
Series 3 Christmas Special: September 1921
Series 4: February 1922 > August 1922
Series 4 Christmas Special: Summer 1923

So, they've covered 11 years in 4 series, they could easily make 1929 with Series 5, 6 & 7. Maggie Smith is a spry 79, she should be able to hang in there for another 3 years.

Superrad: the_rhino: I really hope that the first scene in series 5 is of Isis chewing on Barrow's remains while Mr. Bates watches.

Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease!

This x infinity. Now, as a homosexual, I might be a traitor to The Great Gay Cause, but while life for us 'mo's was ghastly in the UK in the 1920's, no excuse for being a bitter sociopath.


As Season 4 progresses, I've found Tom Barrow to have become likeable. Kinda like a good Disney villain.
 
2014-01-08 08:24:07 PM

Henry Holland: At that point, it would be really far-fetched for Lord Grantham and his heirs to still live in a big pile like Downton Abbey with a large staff of servants, but hey, it's teevee.


Believe it or not, some of the really great (ie, lots of money, lots of land, lots of power) families managed to ride out the Depression with their household staff largely intact.  They only lost their servants to WWII, and some still had enough money after the war to take a limited staff (butler, cook, maid, part-time parlor maids) back on.

I'm thinking about families like the Russells (Duke of Bedford) who still own most of Bloomsbury in London or the Cavindishes (Duke of Devonshire) who have survived the death of so many other noble lines that they now own more land and more stately homes than they know what to do with.  The Duke of Devonshire had an attic cleanout sale a couple of years ago: it brought in nearly $10 million.
 
2014-01-08 11:50:05 PM
Foundling: Downton is killing off their cast too fast to stay on for much longer.

Part of that is a result of how the British acting/TV system works. Actors in the UK are mostly trained stage actors who do Shakespeare and live theater throughout their career. They usually don't like being tied down to a TV role for too long, it typecasts them; it's why Dan Stevens (Matthew) and Siobhan Finneran (O'Brien) left.

Foundling: As Season 4 progresses, I've found Tom Barrow to have become likeable. Kinda like a good Disney villain.

I never found Tom to be unlikeable, just someone who fell in love with someone waaaaaay above his station and now is around people that tolerate him at best (Mary seems to like him though) because he helped spawn a grandchild for the family, even if that child is a girl (i.e. not someone that can inherit the estate down the line). I hope that he doesn't leave for America like they've hinted, he's a good character.

Dwight_Yeast: Believe it or not, some of the really great (ie, lots of money, lots of land, lots of power) families managed to ride out the Depression with their household staff largely intact.

Sure, there were people who continued on as before, sorry I didn't make it clear that I was referring to the situation that fictional Lord Grantham and his family are in. I can see a scenario where the stock market crash wipes out Lady Grantham's fortune, Robert only married Cora for her money after the heirs to Downton mismanaged it/died before they could inherit it. That's one of the subtexts of the show I like, how the whole thing could come collapsing down on them because they are living beyond their means. There's a hint of Matthew's estate tax causing a big burden in season 5, for example.
 
2014-01-09 03:28:55 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Polish Hussar: As expensive as "Top Gear" is to produce*, I'd still wager that it's profitable for the BBC because of it's huge worldwide distribution. I think they usually say "Top Gear" has a worldwide television audience of 350 million.

The BBC doesn't make a shilling off of Downton Abbey as it's produced by ITV, which is a private, for-profit TV station, which is why Downton Abbey has commercial breaks in it.


You are correct, which is why I didn't mention "Downton Abbey" in my post.  I was only trying to say that I thought "Top Gear" wasn't a good example of an expensive BBC show that needed outside support to be produced.
 
2014-01-09 05:29:09 AM
Henry Holland:

Foundling: As Season 4 progresses, I've found Tom Barrow to have become likeable. Kinda like a good Disney villain.

I never found Tom to be unlikeable, just someone who fell in love with someone waaaaaay above his station and now is around people that tolerate him at best (Mary seems to like him though) because he helped spawn a grandchild for the family, even if that child is a girl (i.e. not someone that can inherit the estate down the line). I hope that he doesn't leave for America like they've hinted, he's a good character.


It appear you may have confused Tom Branson with Tom Barrow.

I'm casting another vote for the scene with Isis chewing on Barrow's remains.
 
2014-01-09 09:16:47 AM

gnosis301: verbaltoxin: colinspooky: ....the English class system HAS TO FAR lasted hundreds of years....

What?

Do me so far, do me?


Obscura-cola?
 
2014-01-09 12:35:32 PM
Nidiot: It appear you may have confused Tom Branson with Tom Barrow.

But.....but......his name is Thomas, not Tom!!!

Oh for feck's sake, sorry about that.
 
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