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(Sports Illustrated)   "This year, there will be two additional African teams in the World Cup: France and Belgium"   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) divider line 21
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2014-01-08 09:36:17 AM
*Insert joke about USMNT here*
 
2014-01-08 10:41:54 AM
I can't wait for the world cup to start. I don't expect the US to get out of their group but I think they will get a surprise result out of either Portugal or Germany. Also can't believe The Anteater is in our group.
 
2014-01-08 11:20:13 AM
This reads as if the opening three paragraphs (which are atrocious) were written by a clueless editor, and the rest of the article (which is a decent read) was actually written by a European sports writer.
 
2014-01-08 01:07:53 PM
I for one am excited to see my second favorite team in the World Cup. Hopefully my relatives in Gent will not let their Flemish pride get in the way of supporting de Rode Duivels.
 
2014-01-08 01:32:56 PM
So basicly what the US has done in sporting events?
 
2014-01-08 01:41:30 PM

AmazinTim: This reads as if the opening three paragraphs (which are atrocious) were written by a clueless editor, and the rest of the article (which is a decent read) was actually written by a European sports writer.


My thoughts exactly.  My reaction through the first few paragraphs was "Wow, so national teams are still manipulating nationality to bolster their squads?  Wow, breaking news!"

The rest of the article was incredibly interesting and a thought-provoking look at politics, immigration, and football.
 
2014-01-08 02:07:11 PM
Am I missing something (can't access the article at work)?  The roster France played against Ukraine had exactly two non-French-born players: Patrice Evra, whose father was a French diplomat stationed in Senegal when he was born and Steve Mandanda, who was born in Zaire but raised in Marseilles.

I guess they have a lot of black players born in France to African immigrant parents but, as Cajnik implies, how is that any different from the USMNT who have Jozy Altidore, Herculez Gomez, Joe Corona, Jose Francisco Torres, Alejandro Bedoya, Eric Lichaj, Oguchi Onyewu, Michael Orozco, and Omar Gonzalez, all of whom were born in the US to American immigrants?
 
2014-01-08 02:31:55 PM

rugman11: Am I missing something (can't access the article at work)?  The roster France played against Ukraine had exactly two non-French-born players: Patrice Evra, whose father was a French diplomat stationed in Senegal when he was born and Steve Mandanda, who was born in Zaire but raised in Marseilles.

I guess they have a lot of black players born in France to African immigrant parents but, as Cajnik implies, how is that any different from the USMNT who have Jozy Altidore, Herculez Gomez, Joe Corona, Jose Francisco Torres, Alejandro Bedoya, Eric Lichaj, Oguchi Onyewu, Michael Orozco, and Omar Gonzalez, all of whom were born in the US to American immigrants?


Because racism.
 
2014-01-08 02:39:54 PM

rugman11: Am I missing something (can't access the article at work)?  The roster France played against Ukraine had exactly two non-French-born players: Patrice Evra, whose father was a French diplomat stationed in Senegal when he was born and Steve Mandanda, who was born in Zaire but raised in Marseilles.

I guess they have a lot of black players born in France to African immigrant parents but, as Cajnik implies, how is that any different from the USMNT who have Jozy Altidore, Herculez Gomez, Joe Corona, Jose Francisco Torres, Alejandro Bedoya, Eric Lichaj, Oguchi Onyewu, Michael Orozco, and Omar Gonzalez, all of whom were born in the US to American immigrants?


It's not except France is a lot better than the US, typically anyway.

Europe has 15 slots and Africa has 5 slots because Europe has a shiatload more good squads. Does Africa really want to biatch about ratio of spots to CAF members? Take a look at COMNEBOL. They get 4 guaranteed slots and a playoff against a horrible AFC team, effectively a 50% WC qualification rate. And they got all the Nazis and Fascismos after WW2!
 
2014-01-08 03:13:00 PM
So I basically understand the dispersal of WC slots to the federations.

Can anyone enlighten me as to the procedure of adjusting those ratios?  I know various rebalances have been done (changing ratios, playoff games, moving countries from one fed to another), but am unclear as to how they happen.

I assume bribes.
 
2014-01-08 03:44:04 PM

bacongood: So I basically understand the dispersal of WC slots to the federations.

Can anyone enlighten me as to the procedure of adjusting those ratios?  I know various rebalances have been done (changing ratios, playoff games, moving countries from one fed to another), but am unclear as to how they happen.

I assume bribes.


Hookers and blow.
 
2014-01-08 03:44:32 PM

bacongood: So I basically understand the dispersal of WC slots to the federations.

Can anyone enlighten me as to the procedure of adjusting those ratios?  I know various rebalances have been done (changing ratios, playoff games, moving countries from one fed to another), but am unclear as to how they happen.

I assume bribes.


I don't think there's really a formula or anything.  Based on history it seems like don't really change it until somebody starts complaining loudly enough and then they just expand the tournament.  They've made three changes since the tournament expanded to 32 in 1998:

2002 - Half-spot from UEFA to Conmebol
2006 - Half-spot from UEFA to CONCACAF, eliminated the Champions' automatic berth and gave it to AFC

Confederations will complain, but the fact is that every single European and South American team in the 2014 World Cup is currently ranked higher than every other team in the tournament except for the US and Ivory Coast.  My guess is we won't see any changes (barring a significant run by multiple non-European or South American teams in a World Cup) until they decide to expand the tournament again.
 
2014-01-08 03:52:19 PM

bacongood: So I basically understand the dispersal of WC slots to the federations.

Can anyone enlighten me as to the procedure of adjusting those ratios?  I know various rebalances have been done (changing ratios, playoff games, moving countries from one fed to another), but am unclear as to how they happen.

I assume bribes.


Kind of a black box but not really. FIFA takes a look at the confederations and their strength relative to others before every WC. I'm pretty sure it comes down to a vote as well. Basically I've always viewed it as not dissimilar from the NCAA tourney selection committee, but they choose a number of teams instead of the actual teams.
 
2014-01-08 05:16:26 PM

bacongood: So I basically understand the dispersal of WC slots to the federations.

Can anyone enlighten me as to the procedure of adjusting those ratios?  I know various rebalances have been done (changing ratios, playoff games, moving countries from one fed to another), but am unclear as to how they happen.

I assume bribes.


I know for CONCACAF they want to make sure both Mexico and USA make it because there is a lot more money if those two countries are in it.  So they gave our region 3-4 countries in the world cup just in case.  So....needless to say, we're not going to lose spots for next world cup.
 
2014-01-08 06:11:59 PM

salukiboy: bacongood: So I basically understand the dispersal of WC slots to the federations.

Can anyone enlighten me as to the procedure of adjusting those ratios?  I know various rebalances have been done (changing ratios, playoff games, moving countries from one fed to another), but am unclear as to how they happen.

I assume bribes.

I know for CONCACAF they want to make sure both Mexico and USA make it because there is a lot more money if those two countries are in it.  So they gave our region 3-4 countries in the world cup just in case.  So....needless to say, we're not going to lose spots for next world cup.


And only Graham Zusi could save that anyway.
 
2014-01-09 04:42:53 AM

rugman11: Am I missing something (can't access the article at work)?  The roster France played against Ukraine had exactly two non-French-born players: Patrice Evra, whose father was a French diplomat stationed in Senegal when he was born and Steve Mandanda, who was born in Zaire but raised in Marseilles.

I guess they have a lot of black players born in France to African immigrant parents but, as Cajnik implies, how is that any different from the USMNT who have Jozy Altidore, Herculez Gomez, Joe Corona, Jose Francisco Torres, Alejandro Bedoya, Eric Lichaj, Oguchi Onyewu, Michael Orozco, and Omar Gonzalez, all of whom were born in the US to American immigrants?


The article mentions Le Pen in the 90s and now his daughter before the France - Ukraine qualifier both were trying to stir up racial emotions (surprise!). Le Pen's daughter basically said they lost the first leg because they are not French (and thus, not passionate about winning for France). They won the second leg and qualified, and the author jokes maybe we should thank Le Pen's daughter for her shiatty form of motivation because the players were playing with a chip on their shoulder.
 
2014-01-09 05:34:00 AM
Is this the general WC thread? Any USMNT fans want to chime in on your best midfielder running (from farking Juventus? Are you kidding me?) back to the minors? Why won't dude stay and fight for his spot or at least a spot on a lesser Euro team, which is still light years better football wise?
 
2014-01-09 09:35:34 AM

drewogatory: Is this the general WC thread? Any USMNT fans want to chime in on your best midfielder running (from farking Juventus? Are you kidding me?) back to the minors? Why won't dude stay and fight for his spot or at least a spot on a lesser Euro team, which is still light years better football wise?


My Weeners would be "Who are you talking about?" As far as I know, no American has every played for Juventus.

Now if you're talking about Michael Bradley and Roma, well that one is easy. He's been battling for a spot for half a season but has only played 5 games. He's not playing much for the USMNT anymore and wants to go to the WC this year. He's also going to get paid about 5x more in Toronto than he is in Italy, and Roma gets a cool $10 million out of the deal for a player they hardly use.
 
2014-01-09 11:02:10 AM

redmid17: drewogatory: Is this the general WC thread? Any USMNT fans want to chime in on your best midfielder running (from farking Juventus? Are you kidding me?) back to the minors? Why won't dude stay and fight for his spot or at least a spot on a lesser Euro team, which is still light years better football wise?

My Weeners would be "Who are you talking about?" As far as I know, no American has every played for Juventus.

Now if you're talking about Michael Bradley and Roma, well that one is easy. He's been battling for a spot for half a season but has only played 5 games. He's not playing much for the USMNT anymore and wants to go to the WC this year. He's also going to get paid about 5x more in Toronto than he is in Italy, and Roma gets a cool $10 million out of the deal for a player they hardly use.


Yeah, battling the flu with brandy can result in typing Juventus instead of Roma. I'm an idiot even when well and sober, so I'm facing an uphill battle this week.
 
2014-01-09 05:18:50 PM

redmid17: My Weeners would be "Who are you talking about?"


Who are you talking about is a strange name for your weener, but whatever floats your boat, I guess...
 
2014-01-09 05:40:01 PM

Cajnik: redmid17: My Weeners would be "Who are you talking about?"

Who are you talking about is a strange name for your weener, but whatever floats your boat, I guess...


People can't resist asking
 
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