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(Vice)   The Mexican cartels have come up with a really boring way to get drugs into the USA   (motherboard.vice.com) divider line 51
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2014-01-08 08:05:50 AM
Cattle vagina rockets?
 
2014-01-08 08:10:55 AM
p2.la-img.com
 
2014-01-08 08:14:10 AM
Books?


/what?! I read?!
//that's past tense, right?!
///slow slashies
 
2014-01-08 08:15:05 AM
Books?


/what?! I read!!
//that's past tense, right?!
///slow slashies
 
2014-01-08 08:15:56 AM
Double fail.


/at least not boring!!
 
2014-01-08 08:16:24 AM
Hidden inside Duck Dynasty DVD boxes?
 
2014-01-08 08:18:35 AM
fark that, I get my drugs from the store down the street.
 
2014-01-08 08:19:23 AM
Hidden inside copies of People and US Weekly?
 
2014-01-08 08:22:26 AM
Going legit in Colorado?
 
2014-01-08 08:24:32 AM
AutoCAD instructional DVDs?
 
2014-01-08 08:25:01 AM
On the receiving end of the drug pipeline.....

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-08 08:33:38 AM
Something Something Big Bertha Seattle weed something.

/Is sick, so lay off, man!
 
2014-01-08 08:33:41 AM
That's a quality headline there subby.
 
2014-01-08 08:38:05 AM
Can we consider just letting the short-weeded Colorado dispensaries straight up BUY it from them wholesale?
 
2014-01-08 08:39:10 AM
What is "Up subby's mom's butt" ?


/I'll take Easy trolling for $400, Alex.
 
2014-01-08 08:42:59 AM
Just get some of those amazon drones, door to door service
 
2014-01-08 08:50:58 AM

Mister Buttons: On the receiving end of the drug pipeline.....

[img.fark.net image 259x194]


It's gone.
 
2014-01-08 08:52:00 AM
If I wasn't running for President i would say that we re-legalize the lot.  The drug cartels simply cannot compete with a legitimate business.  And the users are getting their stuff anyway so we may as well let them have it.

And of course the Lord Darwin will receive his offerings as usual.

OH?

Darn! that's right!

I am running for President.
 
2014-01-08 08:52:19 AM
A series of tubes?
 
2014-01-08 08:54:54 AM
All of them "collided with city infrastructure

Yeah that can't be good.

/btw...anyone else having weirdness posting with IE lately?
 
2014-01-08 08:58:11 AM
static1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-08 08:58:28 AM
pfft only ten inches wide?  I layed bigger pipe than that last night.

probably had a bigger pay off too
 
2014-01-08 08:58:59 AM

fireclown: Can we consider just letting the short-weeded Colorado dispensaries straight up BUY it from them wholesale?


And put hardworking American weed growers out of a job?!?!  I don't think so!!!
 
2014-01-08 09:03:04 AM
As someone who works in the oil and gas business, I'm frankly surprised this hasn't been going on for years.  The technology is 40 years old and they've been drilling short distances for things like going under rivers since its inception.  A good driller can hit a target 10' in diameter 10,000 ft away and the equipment to do it would run less than 500k, all in.  Small investment for the returns they're seeing.
 
2014-01-08 09:04:17 AM

Leblon: As someone who works in the oil and gas business, I'm frankly surprised this hasn't been going on for years.


Whose to say it hasn't..
 
2014-01-08 09:08:53 AM

theotherles: If I wasn't running for President i would say that we re-legalize the lot.  The drug cartels simply cannot compete with a legitimate business.  And the users are getting their stuff anyway so we may as well let them have it.

And of course the Lord Darwin will receive his offerings as usual.

OH?

Darn! that's right!

I am running for President.


An Ayn Rand quote right out of the gate! That's how you know you have a quality candidate. Anyone who bases their political philosophy on a work of fiction written by a mediocre author with no realistic concept of how economies work is clearly a deep thinker and a born leader. Lead on, brave sir!
 
2014-01-08 09:13:57 AM
crack fracking
 
2014-01-08 09:16:52 AM
Some interesting info on acoustic ground monitoring efforts:

http://www.hstoday.us/focused-topics/customs-immigration/single-arti cl e-page/tunnel-vision-the-next-frontier/4e6df64a7058b69af5e60a4d1bc5d23 f.html

It looks like IATD hasn't gone that far, though.  In 2011, they were offering to sell/license the prototype.  At least that's what my google-fu can come up with.
 
2014-01-08 09:24:49 AM

MaliFinn: crack fracking


Mainline pipeline
 
2014-01-08 09:25:51 AM
Oh, and before one of you hippies comes in here and declares that we lost the War on Drugs, let me remind you that the drug war has been incredibly successful. It's gotten us to willingly forfeit a number of our so-called "civil liberties", has helped propel our prison population to #1 in the world (per capita), and has facilitated the militarization of our domestic police forces, which could really come in handy if you proles start getting uppity. Imagine the outrage that would have erupted pre-War-on-Drugs had a paramilitary SWAT team with a "no-knock warrant" busted down the door to a family's residence, stormed inside, shot their pets, assaulted the owners and possibly murdered one of the occupants, only to find out later that the kid with 2 pot plants in his living room that they were after lived on 1st STREET instead of 1st AVENUE. There probably would have been riots! Now we just accept it and dare not challenge the police, lest our house be next. Of course, the War on Terror has accelerated the process, but we need to give credit where it is due and acknowledge that the War on Drugs really got the ball rolling. The only "War on [blank]" that has completely failed and needs to be abandoned is the War on Poverty. Everything else is going great!
 
2014-01-08 09:27:37 AM

mike_d85: MaliFinn: crack fracking

Mainline pipeline


Crack pipe?
 
2014-01-08 09:36:35 AM
mod3072:

An Ayn Rand quote right out of the gate! That's how you know you have a quality candidate. Anyone who bases their political philosophy on a work of fiction written by a mediocre author with no realistic concept of how economies work is clearly a deep thinker and a born leader. Lead on, brave sir!

You've used the Argument From Authority.

You clearly do not give a damn about reality.

But then you are on FARK.
 
2014-01-08 09:37:52 AM
Can I lick the inside when you guys are done?
 
2014-01-08 09:47:38 AM

Leblon: As someone who works in the oil and gas business, I'm frankly surprised this hasn't been going on for years.  The technology is 40 years old and they've been drilling short distances for things like going under rivers since its inception.  A good driller can hit a target 10' in diameter 10,000 ft away and the equipment to do it would run less than 500k, all in.  Small investment for the returns they're seeing.


I can see some problems with it.  A "good driller" would be someone with access to records and administrative support to make sure they don't hit a water main or something else that would draw attention.  Second, a "good driller" would make comfortable money in resource extraction, maybe not as much as working for a drug lord, but enough to not be tempted into crime and all the downsides like a very reduced life expectancy.  Also, a pipe would have beginning and end points that aren't easy to hide if you're trying to cover your tracks as you move operations around.  A kid driving a car is flexible, expendable, desperate for cash and ridiculously easy to find.
 
2014-01-08 09:58:56 AM
dragonchild:

I can see some problems with it.  A "good driller" would be someone with access to records and administrative support to make sure they don't hit a water main or something else that would draw attention.  Second, a "good driller" would make comfortable money in resource extraction, maybe not as much as working for a drug lord, but enough to not be tempted into crime and all the downsides like a very reduced life expectancy.  Also, a pipe would have beginning and end points that aren't easy to hide if you're trying to cover your tracks as you move operations around.  A kid driving a car is flexible, expendable, desperate for cash and ridiculously easy to find.

The key is to find a good driller with a propensity for gambling, and make sure he gets into considerable debt that can be conviniently waived in exchange for a few services.
 
2014-01-08 10:14:37 AM
UPS? FedEx? Amazon.com.mx Prime shipping? Literal drug mules? Sarah Palin?

Hey, I can think of all sorts of dull ways to ship drugs that Subby can't.
 
2014-01-08 10:30:59 AM
Waiting for drones.

They might not be great for large bundles of weed, but for items with a high value-to-weight ratio, like coke and meth, its ideal.
 
2014-01-08 10:43:41 AM

dragonchild: I can see some problems with it.  A "good driller" would be someone with access to records and administrative support to make sure they don't hit a water main or something else that would draw attention.  Second, a "good driller" would make comfortable money in resource extraction, maybe not as much as working for a drug lord, but enough to not be tempted into crime and all the downsides like a very reduced life expectancy.  Also, a pipe would have beginning and end points that aren't easy to hide if you're trying to cover your tracks as you move operations around.  A kid driving a car is flexible, expendable, desperate for cash and ridiculously easy to find.


I've been told that the rig companies are starting to blackball people who have too many accidents, so maybe there's some mediocre drillers out there working for the cartels
 
2014-01-08 11:32:41 AM
 
2014-01-08 12:03:16 PM

tillerman35: Some interesting info on acoustic ground monitoring efforts:

http://www.hstoday.us/focused-topics/customs-immigration/single-arti cl e-page/tunnel-vision-the-next-frontier/4e6df64a7058b69af5e60a4d1bc5d23 f.html

It looks like IATD hasn't gone that far, though.  In 2011, they were offering to sell/license the prototype.  At least that's what my google-fu can come up with.


I have a friend who works for a company that does ground monitoring, primarily for mining and drilling, but they were contracted by DHS to develop and acoustic monitoring system for just this!!
 
2014-01-08 12:31:13 PM

AnonymooseFarker: I have a friend who works for a company that does ground monitoring, primarily for mining and drilling, but they were contracted by DHS to develop and acoustic monitoring system for just this!!


Wanna know how I know you're lying?
 
2014-01-08 01:26:03 PM

mod3072: theotherles: If I wasn't running for President i would say that we re-legalize the lot.  The drug cartels simply cannot compete with a legitimate business.  And the users are getting their stuff anyway so we may as well let them have it.

And of course the Lord Darwin will receive his offerings as usual.

OH?

Darn! that's right!

I am running for President.

An Ayn Rand quote right out of the gate! That's how you know you have a quality candidate. Anyone who bases their political philosophy on a work of fiction written by a mediocre author with no realistic concept of how economies work is clearly a deep thinker and a born leader. Lead on, brave sir!


Can't be any worse than the last two presidents we had. At least he wants to create massive new taxable revenue streams, unlike our buddy Barry.
 
2014-01-08 02:48:12 PM
"Firetruck-sized drillers"?  Now, I've worked with some hefty fellows but none of them have been the size of a firetruck.
 
2014-01-08 04:32:35 PM
That just read like an advertisement for the "Brand New for 2014, Ditch Witch JT8020!"

Also:

i641.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-08 05:33:01 PM

LemSkroob: Waiting for drones.

They might not be great for large bundles of weed, but for items with a high value-to-weight ratio, like coke and meth, its ideal.


Since tunneling under the border for smuggling has been going on for decades, I'm waiting for them to finally follow ancient China's lead and come up with a way to 'listen' for the sound of tunnel digging.
 
2014-01-08 05:36:14 PM
washington-babylon:

Can't be any worse than the last two presidents we had. At least he wants to create massive new taxable revenue streams, unlike our buddy Barry.

A problem with following Rand is that I really don't think about raising new venue.  i was concerned with restoring freedom in general.
 
2014-01-08 05:49:23 PM

theotherles: washington-babylon:

Can't be any worse than the last two presidents we had. At least he wants to create massive new taxable revenue streams, unlike our buddy Barry.

A problem with following Rand is that I really don't think about raising new venue.  i was concerned with restoring freedom in general.


That's cool. But there's no problem with proper taxation of a new revenue stream while cutting foreign spending and trimming entitlement programs either. Do those three things and our GDP would be enough to pay off the national debt in 8 years. Then we could focus on the cool stuff like commercial space development again.
 
2014-01-08 06:12:58 PM

washington-babylon: theotherles: washington-babylon:

Can't be any worse than the last two presidents we had. At least he wants to create massive new taxable revenue streams, unlike our buddy Barry.

A problem with following Rand is that I really don't think about raising new venue.  i was concerned with restoring freedom in general.

That's cool. But there's no problem with proper taxation of a new revenue stream while cutting foreign spending and trimming entitlement programs either. Do those three things and our GDP would be enough to pay off the national debt in 8 years. Then we could focus on the cool stuff like commercial space development again.


Cool.
 
2014-01-08 06:18:56 PM

Leblon: A good driller can hit a target 10' in diameter 10,000 ft away and the equipment to do it would run less than 500k, all in.  Small investment for the returns they're seeing.


Somehow I get the feeling they may not be buying the equipment.  Most of this stuff belongs to large contractors who tend to keep lots of expensive gear in large lots and much of it isn't well accounted for until a project needs it.  Then it gets reported stolen but the may have been drilling for months.

As far as listening, that assumes a reasonable drill rate.  If they are willing to a days job over a month, the drilling would sound much different.
 
2014-01-08 07:35:07 PM

DON.MAC: Leblon: A good driller can hit a target 10' in diameter 10,000 ft away and the equipment to do it would run less than 500k, all in.  Small investment for the returns they're seeing.

Somehow I get the feeling they may not be buying the equipment.  Most of this stuff belongs to large contractors who tend to keep lots of expensive gear in large lots and much of it isn't well accounted for until a project needs it.  Then it gets reported stolen but the may have been drilling for months.

As far as listening, that assumes a reasonable drill rate.  If they are willing to a days job over a month, the drilling would sound much different.

run these along the border  http://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/en/Terms/v/vibratory_seismic_dat a .aspx
 
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