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(Gallup)   A record number of Americans now identify as Independents, while Republican identification falls to a 25 year low   (gallup.com) divider line 85
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2014-01-08 04:36:21 AM
They left me. So I had to leave them.
 
2014-01-08 07:44:57 AM
obviously, the solution is more tax cuts for the rich, make sure that poorer americans have less access to food, housing and jobs.  Oh and cut access to womens health services for rich and poor alike.  can't have them uppity broads thinking they're equal or anything!
 
2014-01-08 07:47:31 AM
Republican identification fell to 25%, the lowest over that time span. At 31%, Democratic identification is unchanged from the last four years

In other words, 56% are still drinking nothing but red or blue kool-aid but will insist nonetheless on their independent-mindedness.
 
2014-01-08 08:06:55 AM

Weaver95: obviously, the solution is more tax cuts for the rich, make sure that poorer americans have less access to food, housing and jobs.  Oh and cut access to womens health services for rich and poor alike.  can't have them uppity broads thinking they're equal or anything!


And keep dem libbruls from voting. That'll fix it!

/and more tax cuts for the rich
 
2014-01-08 08:29:02 AM
The punch line comes when these Fark faux independents vote a straight R ticket the corporate media will tell us that "independent" voters are swinging towards the GOP.
 
2014-01-08 08:32:24 AM

TwoHead: The punch line comes when these Fark faux independents vote a straight R ticket the corporate media will tell us that "independent" voters are swinging towards the GOP.


From the article, these new-found Independents are leaning more to the Democratic side, though.
 
2014-01-08 08:51:06 AM
There's still lots of embarrassed Bush voters.
 
2014-01-08 08:51:16 AM

Gulper Eel: Republican identification fell to 25%, the lowest over that time span. At 31%, Democratic identification is unchanged from the last four years

In other words, 56% are still drinking nothing but red or blue kool-aid but will insist nonetheless on their independent-mindedness.


It's funny that you think the Democrats are blue.  They are purple at best.
 
2014-01-08 08:52:55 AM

Weaver95: obviously, the solution is more tax cuts for the rich, make sure that poorer americans have less access to food, housing and jobs.  Oh and cut access to womens health services for rich and poor alike.  can't have them uppity broads thinking they're equal or anything!


after that laser like focus on jobs for sure
 
2014-01-08 08:53:47 AM
16% of the the 46% of independents identfiy themselves as no political leanings...I think that works out to only 3% of the total polled population are "true" independents.
 
2014-01-08 08:56:49 AM

Weaver95: obviously, the solution is more tax cuts for the rich, make sure that poorer americans have less access to food, housing and jobs.  Oh and cut access to womens health services for rich and poor alike.  can't have them uppity broads thinking they're equal or anything!


Still cracks me up that the GOP thinks they only need to wrap their regressive, plutocratic nonsense in a pretty package and everyone will flock to the polls to vote for them...

Heh. Maybe they're right. I don't have much faith in my fellow Americans anymore.


Been an unenrolled voter since the 90s... Originally registered as a Democratic voter, and had a brief dalliance with the Green Party in college. I end up voting for Democrats mostly because of the insanity of the GOP.
 
2014-01-08 08:57:37 AM
# It's Gallup. Come on, seriously? Do we have to break out the Nate Silver accuracy chart?

# "Independent" is a fiction. Most independents still lean one way.
 
2014-01-08 08:58:11 AM
Now tell us how many of these people are looking for more moderate politics, and how many of them are looking for leaders who'll ban higher education, deport all the brown people, and outlaw condoms.
 
2014-01-08 08:58:26 AM
gifrific.com
 
2014-01-08 09:00:51 AM
Just embarrassed Republicans who don't want to be snickered at.
 
2014-01-08 09:01:06 AM

TwoHead: The punch line comes when these Fark faux independents vote a straight R ticket the corporate media will tell us that "independent" voters are swinging towards the GOP.


Actaully, the majority of the so called "independents" identify themselves as leaning democrats.
 
2014-01-08 09:02:01 AM
A large chunk of those independents are teatards who don't think the Republican party is conservative enough (which is insane on the face of it.).  They'll vote straight ticket Republican when they're in the voting booth.

This study really is useless.
 
2014-01-08 09:04:55 AM
And yet they'll all come back around to stop Fartbongo.

At some point, though, the strategy of "Yeah, we suck, but Democrat is literally Hitler" is going to burn out for the Republicans. No one votes for them because they like them, any more (even conservatives, who'd prefer deeper conservatism). I know Liberals don't like how centrist the Democratic party's gotten, but it feels like conservative hatred for Republicans is on a different scale
 
2014-01-08 09:05:33 AM

Danger Mouse: Actaully, the majority of the so called "independents" identify themselves as leaning democrats centrists.


The pendulum swung right.
Democrats are centrists.
Republicans are insane.
 
2014-01-08 09:05:52 AM

Gulper Eel: Republican identification fell to 25%, the lowest over that time span. At 31%, Democratic identification is unchanged from the last four years

In other words, 56% are still drinking nothing but red or blue kool-aid but will insist nonetheless on their independent-mindedness.


Well, as long as you've found a way to feel superior to both.
 
2014-01-08 09:06:04 AM

Gulper Eel: Republican identification fell to 25%, the lowest over that time span. At 31%, Democratic identification is unchanged from the last four years

In other words, 56% are still drinking nothing but red or blue kool-aid but will insist nonetheless on their independent-mindedness.


Meh.  Are you going to vote for a party that's going to get you 10% of what you want and 10% of what you don't want, while keeping out 50% of what you really don't want? Or are you going to vote for a party that's going to get 0% of the votes in any level of government, regardless of how good their ideas are?

At the end of the day most of that 44% that identifies as "independent" is still going to vote for a major-party candidate.
 
2014-01-08 09:06:47 AM

yeegrek: A large chunk of those independents are teatards who don't think the Republican party is conservative enough (which is insane on the face of it.).  They'll vote straight ticket Republican when they're in the voting booth.



The other chunk are the people who are Republicans but embarrassed to admit it in public.
 
2014-01-08 09:07:20 AM
Well, that might help explain the Pew Research shift in attitudes on Evolution from a week or two back.
 
2014-01-08 09:07:52 AM

TwoHead: The punch line comes when these Fark faux independents vote a straight R ticket the corporate media will tell us that "independent" voters are swinging towards the GOP.


That's probably why the GOP noise machine was so convinced that Romney was going to win.
 
2014-01-08 09:11:36 AM

MmmmBacon: TwoHead: The punch line comes when these Fark faux independents vote a straight R ticket the corporate media will tell us that "independent" voters are swinging towards the GOP.

From the article, these new-found Independents are leaning more to the Democratic side, though.


As long as they can find one independent who votes republican, The "liberal" media will report that the independent movement is full of people with traditional conservative values who disapprove of the tactics of the tea party.
 
2014-01-08 09:12:01 AM
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2014-01-08 09:14:00 AM
Even if you were dead set against the ACA (I don't see why but lets run with it), at some point you have to stop beating a dead horse.  Hey Republicans, here's a free tip: all people want is a job that lets them take care of their family, and a bit of spending money to have some fun.  Do this and you'll get voters back.
 
2014-01-08 09:14:39 AM

Lackofname: Just embarrassed Republicans who don't want to be snickered at.


This.  That  25 yr.-low-25%  sure elected a shiat-load of Congressmen, Governors and
State Legislators.

People just got tired of getting their cars keyed.
 
2014-01-08 09:14:58 AM

Without Fail: Danger Mouse: Actaully, the majority of the so called "independents" identify themselves as leaning democrats centrists.

The pendulum swung right.
Democrats are centrists.
Republicans are insane.


Except when Democrats swing back to the left the repubs will still be insane.
 
2014-01-08 09:16:05 AM
Basically they are now "independent" in that they don't publicly admit to being Republican, but will still vote Republican.

Sadly this means they won't be able to vote in the primaries if they are actually not registered as a Republican. Meaning they can't primary out the crazies.

Also meaning this leaves only the craziest left in the party. Get ready for even more insane candidates to be voted in to Republican states.
 
2014-01-08 09:16:53 AM
I see the republicans pretending to be independents point has already been covered. I'd pretend too if the party I voted for was full of greedy, moronic bigots.

Of course, the real answer is to not vote for them, but that's a bit to reasonable for most republicans.
 
2014-01-08 09:21:01 AM

PanicMan: Even if you were dead set against the ACA (I don't see why but lets run with it), at some point you have to stop beating a dead horse.  Hey Republicans, here's a free tip: all people want is a job that lets them take care of their family, and a bit of spending money to have some fun.  Do this and you'll get voters back.


The latest polls show the majority of Americans are not in favor of Obamacare.  But I agree with you  that most liberals support the bread and circus mentality.
 
2014-01-08 09:22:22 AM

MmmmBacon: TwoHead: The punch line comes when these Fark faux independents vote a straight R ticket the corporate media will tell us that "independent" voters are swinging towards the GOP.

From the article, these new-found Independents are leaning more to the Democratic side, though.


But that won't be reported.... I hate our media,
 
2014-01-08 09:23:32 AM
I read TFH as "white Republican identification" and thought that's bullshiat.  Then I reread it and still thought that's bullshiat.  It looks like Republican identification was only around 30% in 1988.  Is dropping 5% in a generation significant enough to say "oooh...the Republicans are in decline"?  The Democrats lost that same amount in the same time-frame (and since 2008).
 
2014-01-08 09:24:25 AM

Danger Mouse: PanicMan: Even if you were dead set against the ACA (I don't see why but lets run with it), at some point you have to stop beating a dead horse.  Hey Republicans, here's a free tip: all people want is a job that lets them take care of their family, and a bit of spending money to have some fun.  Do this and you'll get voters back.

The latest polls show the majority of Americans are not in favor of Obamacare.  But I agree with you  that most liberals support the bread and circus mentality.


And those latest polls (which you haven't provided) are meaningless in comparison to an overwhelming majority of Americans support a great deal of individual parts of ACA.  It is the branding, rancor and vitriol from the right (mostly lies) that have the idea of Obamacare leaving a bad taste in their mouths.

Now, SHOW ME a poll of Americans who have a high understanding of ACA and what is / isn't, then show me their favorability.

Because anything else is pointless because of how poisoned the well is.
 
2014-01-08 09:25:08 AM
When was the last year that this didn't happen?
 
2014-01-08 09:25:24 AM
Just remember to handicap any Gallup Poll 2-3 pts +GOP bias/ 2-3pts  -Dem bias , and you actually have to Dems up by as much as 10-15 pts.

And when you  calculate the American peoples'  enduring Nixon shenanigans,  with Reagan shenanigans , with Bush/Cheney shenanigans , and you pretty much have a Party that the American people are beginning to realize  LIES as a matter of Policy, while they do the Bidding, from soup to nuts, of the Uber Rich. All the caricatures  of the GOP turn out to be true. They are heartless,sycophantic,cravenly greedy and unabashedly CONcerned only with the Rich getting Richer.

They think that St Ronald single handedly defeated Communism, and THAT gave the rich and greedy a free hand to pick at the carcass of the once broad American middle class, and that there would be no longer a large mass of people who would eventually rise up out of genuine frustration and sharpen the Guillotine. They , the GOP CONtinues along that path at their clueless  peril.

And then yesterday they trot out the likes of Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, and Marco Rubio to address the poverty issue by basically tell the poor they just need to get more bootstrappy and work harder...what a bunch of Fuq'ing Putzes
 
2014-01-08 09:25:29 AM

Danger Mouse: PanicMan: Even if you were dead set against the ACA (I don't see why but lets run with it), at some point you have to stop beating a dead horse.  Hey Republicans, here's a free tip: all people want is a job that lets them take care of their family, and a bit of spending money to have some fun.  Do this and you'll get voters back.

The latest polls show the majority of Americans are not in favor of Obamacare.  But I agree with you  that most liberals support the bread and circus mentality.


As opposed to the "make poor people fight in the arena for real citizens amusement" mentality of t" so called conservatives?
 
2014-01-08 09:25:32 AM

MmmmBacon: TwoHead: The punch line comes when these Fark faux independents vote a straight R ticket the corporate media will tell us that "independent" voters are swinging towards the GOP.

From the article, these new-found Independents are leaning more to the Democratic side, though.


Danger Mouse: TwoHead: The punch line comes when these Fark faux independents vote a straight R ticket the corporate media will tell us that "independent" voters are swinging towards the GOP.

Actaully, the majority of the so called "independents" identify themselves as leaning democrats.


You folks are thinking of one liner type humor.  I'm guessing this is a long "yarn spinner" type joke, but if people want to actually think for themselves I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised.
 
2014-01-08 09:25:42 AM
Doesn't gallup swing to the right?  Does this mean that the GOP really IS having a problem?
 
2014-01-08 09:30:30 AM

Dahnkster: They left me. So I had to leave them.


They left me too... all the way back when the entire 'moral majority' thing started during Reagan.

All they have been doing sense is pounding their chest about morals while they are married to their 3rd wife... go figure.
 
2014-01-08 09:39:29 AM

Cheron: Weaver95: obviously, the solution is more tax cuts for the rich, make sure that poorer americans have less access to food, housing and jobs.  Oh and cut access to womens health services for rich and poor alike.  can't have them uppity broads thinking they're equal or anything!

after that laser like focus on jobs for sure


They already have a laser like focus on jobs; they are using their laser in an attempt to destroy anyone who does not have a job.
 
2014-01-08 09:43:02 AM

Dahnkster: They left me. So I had to leave them.


Covers it for me
 
2014-01-08 09:49:36 AM

coeyagi: Danger Mouse: PanicMan: Even if you were dead set against the ACA (I don't see why but lets run with it), at some point you have to stop beating a dead horse.  Hey Republicans, here's a free tip: all people want is a job that lets them take care of their family, and a bit of spending money to have some fun.  Do this and you'll get voters back.

The latest polls show the majority of Americans are not in favor of Obamacare.  But I agree with you  that most liberals support the bread and circus mentality.

And those latest polls (which you haven't provided) are meaningless in comparison to an overwhelming majority of Americans support a great deal of individual parts of ACA.  It is the branding, rancor and vitriol from the right (mostly lies) that have the idea of Obamacare leaving a bad taste in their mouths.

Now, SHOW ME a poll of Americans who have a high understanding of ACA and what is / isn't, then show me their favorability.

Because anything else is pointless because of how poisoned the well is.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_hea l th_care_plan-1130.html">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other /obama_and_democrats_heal th_care_plan-1130.html

Sigh.Typical reply.  I am seeing a pattern with you, when ever I ask you for stats or to prove somehting you disappear, or reply back with name calling. But yea, here's the polls.

You could learn to google yourself and come back with inteligent answers rather than  your cookie cutter responses. But here are the polls that show the majority of Americans don't support the ACA... and just because you say so, no they are not pointless.  LoL.
 
2014-01-08 09:51:45 AM
3rd Party!!!     yay!
 
2014-01-08 09:51:50 AM

Danger Mouse: PanicMan: Even if you were dead set against the ACA (I don't see why but lets run with it), at some point you have to stop beating a dead horse.  Hey Republicans, here's a free tip: all people want is a job that lets them take care of their family, and a bit of spending money to have some fun.  Do this and you'll get voters back.

The latest polls show the majority of Americans are not in favor of Obamacare.  But I agree with you  that most liberals support the bread and circus mentality.


Who the f*ck cares about polls? Americans are stupid and poll questions are easy to manipulate.  And it's not just liberals.  Everyone needs jobs.
 
2014-01-08 09:53:03 AM

Dahnkster: They left me. So I had to leave them.



look at the bright side, you can still visit them in the insane asylum to let them know you still think of them sometimes.     (:
 
2014-01-08 09:53:46 AM

HotWingConspiracy: There's still lots of embarrassed Bush voters.



if you can find anyone who will admit to voting for bush.
 
2014-01-08 09:55:07 AM

Arkanaut: At the end of the day most of that 44% that identifies as "independent" is still going to vote for a major-party candidate.


Some of us registered Greens still end up voting mostly for Democratic candidates because Greens either aren't running local candidates or they run batshiat crazy people at the national level. But when they do run good candidates, I vote for them. I have been known to support good Republican candidates (like Terri Lynn Land when she was MI's SOS) or some Libertarian Party people. Never voted for a Constitution Party candidate though, because they are as crazy or crazier than the crazy GP candidates.
 
2014-01-08 09:58:36 AM

A Cave Geek: Doesn't gallup swing to the right?  Does this mean that the GOP really IS having a problem?


What I would like to know, and couldn't find in TFA, is: Exactly what question were the respondents asked?
Were they asked what it actually says on their voter registration?
Or something more vague?
 
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