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2014-01-08 01:35:37 PM

Neondistraction: AtariGod: That reminded me a lot of the infamous Jacksonville column Woody Paige wrote back in Jan '97 when the Jags came in and made Romo look stupid . . . and the rest of the Broncos team.   The Jags to this day will tell you the column helped motivate them for the upset.


Good luck NE.

/not really.  I can't stand Pats fans.
//Surprisingly large amount of Pats fans here in Denver.

Behold, ladies and gentlemen, the first and last time anyone has ever said Romo when they mean Elway.


www.hardknocks.tv
 
2014-01-08 01:44:15 PM
People don't like Boston sports fans because when you've won 8 pro sports championships since 2000, it makes you look like an asshole when you still pretend to be the scrappy underdogs.
 
2014-01-08 01:48:37 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Pats without Gronk will not win the Superbowl.

but I'd still put the Pats offense right now against anyone


Denver
 
2014-01-08 01:49:13 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: People don't like Boston sports fans because when you've won 8 pro sports championships since 2000, it makes you look like an asshole when you still pretend to be the scrappy underdogs.


I'll bite. How are they doing that?
 
2014-01-08 01:53:51 PM

obeymatt: Nobody was a Patriot fan before 2001. Not even in Boston.


That's weird.  If you said 1993 you'd have been a little more right.  The Pats had a modest but pretty good local following through the mid to late 70's and into the mid 80's.  After the '85 season ('86 Superbowl Shuffle) it declined into something comical through '92.  I was able to get free tickets a few times a year and move toward the front and center of the old Foxboro Stadium.  It usually involved watching the Pats get it handed to them.  When Parcells came to town in 1993 fans got back in the seats and to a Superbowl in '96 (Green Bay/Favre/Reggie White/Mike Holmgren).  They've been selling out ever since, though it was almost all screwed up by some inept passive bumbling nice-guy named Pete Carrol.

After 2001, locals were still fans, but now (and I don't know where you're from) you can't go on vacation without seeing a Patriots shirt or hat (Red Sox, too).  Twice in Orlando last year I pointed and smiled and asked where someone was from.  Both responses were a little closer to Duck Dynasty than The Departed.
 
2014-01-08 02:03:32 PM
The Pats do match up well against the Colts. The two AFC teams that the Pats matched up the worst against got booted last weekend -- i.e., anybody with a running game.

Not to mention they're playing a young dome QB on a rainy January night in New England. I'd give them about an 80% chance of winning. I would've given them a 50% chance if it were the Chiefs or Bengals.
 
2014-01-08 02:04:53 PM

Killer Cars: VTGremlin: This Donald Brown?

For this season, it wouldn't surprise me if there's an audio clip somewhere of Andrew Luck going "god dammit Trent".


If there isn't yet, there will be one day

That Peyton cussing Donald clip makes be giggle like a schoolgirl, I can't help it
 
2014-01-08 02:06:32 PM

Nana's Vibrator: obeymatt: Nobody was a Patriot fan before 2001. Not even in Boston.

That's weird.  If you said 1993 you'd have been a little more right.  The Pats had a modest but pretty good local following through the mid to late 70's and into the mid 80's.  After the '85 season ('86 Superbowl Shuffle) it declined into something comical through '92.  I was able to get free tickets a few times a year and move toward the front and center of the old Foxboro Stadium.  It usually involved watching the Pats get it handed to them.  When Parcells came to town in 1993 fans got back in the seats and to a Superbowl in '96 (Green Bay/Favre/Reggie White/Mike Holmgren).  They've been selling out ever since, though it was almost all screwed up by some inept passive bumbling nice-guy named Pete Carrol.

After 2001, locals were still fans, but now (and I don't know where you're from) you can't go on vacation without seeing a Patriots shirt or hat (Red Sox, too).  Twice in Orlando last year I pointed and smiled and asked where someone was from.  Both responses were a little closer to Duck Dynasty than The Departed.


Hell, we used to get free tickets at the box office in the late-80's/early-90's. My dad has been a season ticket holder since he was in college and when my brother and I were old enough not to run off into a crowd he'd bring us to games. We'd walk up to the ticket window and ask if there were any tickets left and the person would usually give us end zone seats for free, although a few times they did charge us the full face value of $10 a seat. And just before the Parcells/Bledsoe era began it was common for him to drop us off with his tickets just before kickoff then come back at 3:30 and park on Route 1 in front of the stadium to pick us up. It still amazes me that he could do that, especially with what Route 1 looks like these days.
 
2014-01-08 02:09:11 PM

Oldiron_79: Even if the pats beat the colts they still have to play the Broncs. So then it becomes a question of who chokes worse Brady or Manning.


Patriots haven't won a super bowl since the team relied upon Brady to be "the man".  Their championships came when he just had to fit in the system and manage the clock while the defense destroyed the other team.
 
2014-01-08 02:13:06 PM

WinoRhino: What gaul!


That shiat's divided into three parts, you know.

One part hubris
One part douchebaggery
One part asshattery
 
2014-01-08 02:20:23 PM

aintnuttintofarkwith: The Pats do match up well against the Colts. The two AFC teams that the Pats matched up the worst against got booted last weekend -- i.e., anybody with a running game.

Not to mention they're playing a young dome QB on a rainy January night in New England. I'd give them about an 80% chance of winning. I would've given them a 50% chance if it were the Chiefs or Bengals.


Sorry, doesn't hold up.  Indy is 5-2 on grass, 6-3 on turf, 6-3 indoor, 5-2 outdoor, 8-4 daytime, 3-1 night, and only one loss worse away than at home this season.  They hold up fine away, outdoors, and at night.  Now, NE is perfect at home, which is their most advantageous point, I'll give you that.  But the other things you put forth don't matter this season.
 
2014-01-08 03:18:45 PM

moistD: Oldiron_79: Even if the pats beat the colts they still have to play the Broncs. So then it becomes a question of who chokes worse Brady or Manning.

Patriots haven't won a super bowl since the team relied upon Brady to be "the man".  Their championships came when he just had to fit in the system and manage the clock while the defense destroyed the other team.


Christ, what is it with this logic? As we've seen the last few years, the NFL playoffs are more or less a craphshoot, and Brady has come within two plays of having 5 Super Bowl rings. Manning's only been to one damn Super Bowl.
 
2014-01-08 03:18:52 PM

Bane of Broone: Mr. Chainsaw: People don't like Boston sports fans because when you've won 8 pro sports championships since 2000, it makes you look like an asshole when you still pretend to be the scrappy underdogs.

I'll bite. How are they doing that?


Were you around during the 2013 MLB Postseason? Because they are only the 3rd highest payroll (or 4th, I forgot), they were the scrappy underdogs and David Ortiz was totally not a juicer like a-rod and that positive steroid test was a false positive.
 
2014-01-08 03:21:22 PM

moistD: Oldiron_79: Even if the pats beat the colts they still have to play the Broncs. So then it becomes a question of who chokes worse Brady or Manning.

Patriots haven't won a super bowl since the team relied upon Brady to be "the man".  Their championships came when he just had to fit in the system and manage the clock while the defense destroyed the other team.


They have the most wins in the NFL of any team in the years since they last won a Super Bowl.  They've been pretty damn successful since they've given the keys to Brady.
 
2014-01-08 03:23:03 PM

aintnuttintofarkwith: moistD: Oldiron_79: Even if the pats beat the colts they still have to play the Broncs. So then it becomes a question of who chokes worse Brady or Manning.

Patriots haven't won a super bowl since the team relied upon Brady to be "the man".  Their championships came when he just had to fit in the system and manage the clock while the defense destroyed the other team.

Christ, what is it with this logic? As we've seen the last few years, the NFL playoffs are more or less a craphshoot, and Brady has come within two plays of having 5 Super Bowl rings. Manning's only been to one damn Super Bowl.


Correction: Manning has been to two Super Bowls.  In the first one he beat a Rex Grossman led Bears team.  In the second one, he threw a crippling late game interception that sealed the deal for the Saints.
 
2014-01-08 03:33:38 PM

machoprogrammer: Bane of Broone: Mr. Chainsaw: People don't like Boston sports fans because when you've won 8 pro sports championships since 2000, it makes you look like an asshole when you still pretend to be the scrappy underdogs.

I'll bite. How are they doing that?

Were you around during the 2013 MLB Postseason? Because they are only the 3rd highest payroll (or 4th, I forgot), they were the scrappy underdogs and David Ortiz was totally not a juicer like a-rod and that positive steroid test was a false positive.


According to the fans? Or are we talking about bull shiat media narratives?
 
2014-01-08 03:39:11 PM
How the hell did baseball get dragged into this??  David Ortiz and Arnold Schwarzenegger are the cleanest athletes ever.

/ seriously

// not even
 
2014-01-08 05:15:09 PM

AdamK: just to get it out of the way:

-Seahawks are guaranteed to win the super bowl, everybody else is a joke
-Saints are guaranteed to win the super bowl, everybody else is a joke
-Niners are guaranteed to win the super bowl, everybody else is a joke
-Panthers are guaranteed to win the super bowl, everybody else is a joke
-Broncos are guaranteed to win the super bowl, everybody else is a joke
-Colts are guaranteed to win the super bowl, everybody else is a joke
-Chargers are guaranteed to win the super bowl, everybody else is a joke
-Patriots are guaranteed to win the super bowl, everybody else is a joke

*knock on wood*

there we go, now this weekend will be a fair competition in the eyes of the football gods


Great, now no one will win the Super Bowl.  There will be a blizzard of epic proportions that weekend with 2 feet of snow and the game will be canceled. thanks a lot!
 
2014-01-08 05:21:26 PM

MmmmBacon: Colt 45, Pats 10.

I normally would think the Pats would win this game, but the author of that article just buried the Pats in his douchiness.


Colt 45...I think I see what you did there
 
2014-01-08 05:21:41 PM

Khellendros: aintnuttintofarkwith: The Pats do match up well against the Colts. The two AFC teams that the Pats matched up the worst against got booted last weekend -- i.e., anybody with a running game.

Not to mention they're playing a young dome QB on a rainy January night in New England. I'd give them about an 80% chance of winning. I would've given them a 50% chance if it were the Chiefs or Bengals.

Sorry, doesn't hold up.  Indy is 5-2 on grass, 6-3 on turf, 6-3 indoor, 5-2 outdoor, 8-4 daytime, 3-1 night, and only one loss worse away than at home this season.  They hold up fine away, outdoors, and at night.  Now, NE is perfect at home, which is their most advantageous point, I'll give you that.  But the other things you put forth don't matter this season.


I think he was making a point specifically about cold ass rain and not all those other fancy stats you threw up there.  Of course I don't know Lucks record in cold rainy games so my point is only that you missed the point.
 
2014-01-08 05:45:06 PM
Sports fan are farking retarded. The same old tired arguments, the same old tired cliches...never any new fresh take, can't ever take a joke, always love the losers because you can feel better about yourself, always become bitter assholes because a team wins a lot more than your favorite.

I love watching sports, but I honestly hate the fans.
 
2014-01-08 07:34:17 PM
Was Peter King giving Shaughnessy a reach-around while he wrote that column?
 
2014-01-08 08:49:28 PM

obeymatt: Nobody was a Patriot fan before 2001. Not even in Boston.


keylock71: Well, that was a dumb thing to write...

Go Patriots!

 
2014-01-08 10:00:31 PM
Why does anyone (in or out of Boston/New England) pay any attention to what this dickbag says? he's the very definition of a professional troll.

//and yet here I am commenting on said touchhole. Mea culpa.
 
2014-01-08 10:06:02 PM

vladimpaler: Gunny Highway: Doc Daneeka: I liked Boston fans more when about 20 years ago when they were still lovable losers, instead of the insufferable front-runners they've become since all their teams started winning championships in the Aughts.

So the same people who were lovable losers because the were fans of Boston teams became "front runners" when the team started winning?  How does that make sense.

There's a lot more of them now.  I'm from New England, and I never saw anyone wearing Patriot shirts in the nineties.  Now it seems that everyone owns a complete set and is quick to tell you how much they've always supported the team, despite the fact the Patriots almost moved to St. Louis due to lack of fan support.

The Red Sox fans keep trying to portray themselves as the little guys fighting the big bad Yankees.  In 2004 they had the second highest payroll and spent $61 million more than the Rockies.  In 2007, second again, $55 million more than the Cardinals.  They went from never winning to if they don't win, someone else screwed them over.


I see that besides being a Mainah who hates the Pats, you hold the Sawx in (roughly) the same regard. How about the Celts? Bruins? Not that I care who you root for. Just curious and think it odd you think like this. Unless you aren't a native. NTTAWWT.
 
2014-01-08 11:39:08 PM
I want Colts vs Bolts. For the lulz. And the bolos.
 
2014-01-08 11:53:25 PM

John Buck 41: vladimpaler: Gunny Highway: Doc Daneeka: I liked Boston fans more when about 20 years ago when they were still lovable losers, instead of the insufferable front-runners they've become since all their teams started winning championships in the Aughts.

So the same people who were lovable losers because the were fans of Boston teams became "front runners" when the team started winning?  How does that make sense.

There's a lot more of them now.  I'm from New England, and I never saw anyone wearing Patriot shirts in the nineties.  Now it seems that everyone owns a complete set and is quick to tell you how much they've always supported the team, despite the fact the Patriots almost moved to St. Louis due to lack of fan support.

The Red Sox fans keep trying to portray themselves as the little guys fighting the big bad Yankees.  In 2004 they had the second highest payroll and spent $61 million more than the Rockies.  In 2007, second again, $55 million more than the Cardinals.  They went from never winning to if they don't win, someone else screwed them over.

I see that besides being a Mainah who hates the Pats, you hold the Sawx in (roughly) the same regard. How about the Celts? Bruins? Not that I care who you root for. Just curious and think it odd you think like this. Unless you aren't a native. NTTAWWT.


I no longer follow the NBA.  If I want rigged sporting events I'll watch the WWE.  I was a 76er fan (because of Julius Erving) until they traded Charles Barkley.  Hockey, I still vaguely follow the Flyers - fan of the Broad Street Bully era and the Maine Mariners (back-to-back Calder Cup championships in 1978 and 79!!)

Born in Pawtucket, RI and moved to Maine when I was six.  I don't understand why so many people around here follow the Boston teams.  The word "masshole" was invented for a reason.  Everyone always asks if it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?  But then we slavishly follow their teams?  No sense at all to me.
 
2014-01-09 12:02:19 AM

vladimpaler: John Buck 41: vladimpaler: Gunny Highway: Doc Daneeka: I liked Boston fans more when about 20 years ago when they were still lovable losers, instead of the insufferable front-runners they've become since all their teams started winning championships in the Aughts.

So the same people who were lovable losers because the were fans of Boston teams became "front runners" when the team started winning?  How does that make sense.

There's a lot more of them now.  I'm from New England, and I never saw anyone wearing Patriot shirts in the nineties.  Now it seems that everyone owns a complete set and is quick to tell you how much they've always supported the team, despite the fact the Patriots almost moved to St. Louis due to lack of fan support.

The Red Sox fans keep trying to portray themselves as the little guys fighting the big bad Yankees.  In 2004 they had the second highest payroll and spent $61 million more than the Rockies.  In 2007, second again, $55 million more than the Cardinals.  They went from never winning to if they don't win, someone else screwed them over.

I see that besides being a Mainah who hates the Pats, you hold the Sawx in (roughly) the same regard. How about the Celts? Bruins? Not that I care who you root for. Just curious and think it odd you think like this. Unless you aren't a native. NTTAWWT.

I no longer follow the NBA.  If I want rigged sporting events I'll watch the WWE.  I was a 76er fan (because of Julius Erving) until they traded Charles Barkley.  Hockey, I still vaguely follow the Flyers - fan of the Broad Street Bully era and the Maine Mariners (back-to-back Calder Cup championships in 1978 and 79!!)

Born in Pawtucket, RI and moved to Maine when I was six.  I don't understand why so many people around here follow the Boston teams.  The word "masshole" was invented for a reason.  Everyone always asks if it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?  But then we slavishly follow their teams?  No sense at all to me.


+1 for the civil reply. Thanks.
 
2014-01-09 08:16:24 AM

vladimpaler: Born in Pawtucket, RI and moved to Maine when I was six. I don't understand why so many people around here follow the Boston teams. The word "masshole" was invented for a reason. Everyone always asks if it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them? But then we slavishly follow their teams? No sense at all to me.


I bumped into a bunch of "REAL MAINERS!!!!!!" on the train one time.  They were coming back from a Pats game.  They were wasted and screaming about how great was and how they never want to leave because the are "REAL MAINERS!"

Every state has their "massholes"
 
2014-01-09 08:26:18 AM

Gunny Highway: They were wasted and screaming about how great was and how they never want to leave because the are "REAL MAINERS!"


Didn't want to leave the game or the state?
 
2014-01-09 08:38:06 AM

John Buck 41: Gunny Highway: They were wasted and screaming about how great was and how they never want to leave because the are "REAL MAINERS!"

Didn't want to leave the game or the state?


Didnt want to leave Maine....but there they were.
 
2014-01-09 10:48:35 AM

On the Side: I think he was making a point specifically about cold ass rain and not all those other fancy stats you threw up there. Of course I don't know Lucks record in cold rainy games so my point is only that you missed the point.


I didn't miss any point.  Under adverse conditions, he performs almost exactly the same as in favorable conditions.  There's no reason to conclude that he'll perform poorly in this specific instance.  Nights, days, turf, home, away, dome, outdoors, whatever.  I haven't seen any specific condition that affects him more than any other QB out there.  He hasn't had any conditional weaknesses show up yet.  Sure, you can assert that rain might be his kryptonite, but there's no reason to think that's the case.
 
2014-01-09 11:19:30 AM

Gunny Highway: vladimpaler: Born in Pawtucket, RI and moved to Maine when I was six. I don't understand why so many people around here follow the Boston teams. The word "masshole" was invented for a reason. Everyone always asks if it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them? But then we slavishly follow their teams? No sense at all to me.

I bumped into a bunch of "REAL MAINERS!!!!!!" on the train one time.  They were coming back from a Pats game.  They were wasted and screaming about how great was and how they never want to leave because the are "REAL MAINERS!"

Every state has their "massholes"


Did the Maine Mariners turn into the Portland Pirates?

I'm from Maine, too. The sticks. What other sports teams do we have to root for? The Black Bears for college hockey, and that's about it. What, are we supposed to connect more with New York sports teams? Or should we be CFL fans? We try to distance ourselves from those fake french farks even more than we do massholes
 
2014-01-09 01:56:42 PM

aintnuttintofarkwith: Gunny Highway: vladimpaler: Born in Pawtucket, RI and moved to Maine when I was six. I don't understand why so many people around here follow the Boston teams. The word "masshole" was invented for a reason. Everyone always asks if it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them? But then we slavishly follow their teams? No sense at all to me.

I bumped into a bunch of "REAL MAINERS!!!!!!" on the train one time.  They were coming back from a Pats game.  They were wasted and screaming about how great was and how they never want to leave because the are "REAL MAINERS!"

Every state has their "massholes"

Did the Maine Mariners turn into the Portland Pirates?

I'm from Maine, too. The sticks. What other sports teams do we have to root for? The Black Bears for college hockey, and that's about it. What, are we supposed to connect more with New York sports teams? Or should we be CFL fans? We try to distance ourselves from those fake french farks even more than we do massholes



The Maine Mariners were the Flyers' farm team from 1977 to 1982. The Devils took over in 1982 until 1987 when they moved the club to Utica. A new expansion Maine Mariners, owned by the Bruins, was formed and played until they became the Providence Bruins after the 1992 season. The Portland Pirates then came into existance, even though they are playing in Lewiston this season.

I say pick your teams without regard to geography.  It's even easier today with cable, satellite, and internet to follow teams from outside your region.  If I have to choose between New York and Boston, I say I have met a lot fewer a**hole New Yorkers.
 
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