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2014-01-08 12:51:12 PM  
 Part of that money is going to the android tablet that is built into the face of it, letting you download recipes, control the oven, play games while your dinner is cooking and do it all from your smart phone.

This is stoooopid. I don't want to stand in front of my oven waiting for my food to cook.  I want to be comfortably seated with some sort of beverage.
 
2014-01-08 01:12:55 PM  
My oven is such a damn attention whore.

And we won't even begun to discuss my stove, because she's a biatch with an attitude problem.
 
2014-01-08 01:38:11 PM  
My oven's opinions would make corners of Twitter smarter instantly.  It would freshen up the debate in the Politics tab too.
 
2014-01-08 01:46:43 PM  
Oven says no
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-01-08 01:47:20 PM  
Of course, my oven is super smart, it has a bunch of degrees.
 
2014-01-08 01:47:59 PM  
"anthropomorphism"...LOOK IT UP!!!
 
2014-01-08 01:48:17 PM  
I'm sorry, Dave.  I'm afraid I can't cook that.
 
2014-01-08 01:48:36 PM  
My oven doesn't want to be spammed with "One Weird Trick to Make Your Broiler Rack Longer" ads.
 
2014-01-08 01:49:31 PM  
When my oven wants something is the time to be afraid. Be very afraid.
 
2014-01-08 01:49:38 PM  
Part of that money is going to the android tablet that is built into the face of it, letting you download recipes, control the oven, play games while your dinner is cooking and do it all from your smart phone.

There, I just saved you thousands.
 
2014-01-08 01:50:07 PM  
Um...no.  Certain things don't need to be online.  Most kitchen appliances would fall into this category.
 
2014-01-08 01:52:03 PM  
My oven is an inanimate object made of metal. It gives no farks and kill yourself.
 
2014-01-08 01:52:58 PM  
My oven would probably spend all day getting hot on hotsexycookiesheets.com that I would need to get it to auto clean before I could use it at night...

... correction before my wife could use it at night.
 
2014-01-08 01:53:22 PM  

busy chillin': Of course, my oven is super smart, it has a bunch of degrees.


Owwwwccchhh.....

-3 for awfulness. +9 for scoring with an oldie. (that's what she said.)
 
2014-01-08 01:53:44 PM  
"I'm sorry, Dave.  I'm afraid I can't bake that right now."

static3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-08 01:53:57 PM  

CleanAndPure: My oven would probably spend all day getting hot on hotsexycookiesheets.com that I would need to get it to auto clean before I could use it at night...

... correction before my wife could use it at night.


I hate getting oven ejaculate on my chicken pot pie.
 
2014-01-08 01:54:40 PM  

Sean M: Um...no.  Certain things don't need to be online.  Most kitchen appliances would fall into this category.


I wouldn't mind being able to remotely check to see if these things are on and to shut them off if they are. Otherwise I don't see much advantage.
 
2014-01-08 01:54:48 PM  
An oven connected to the internet makes more sense than most other appliances. You can turn it on from the road and it's ready to cook as soon as you get home.
 
2014-01-08 01:54:53 PM  
My oven spends all day on WoW*. I can't get it to do anything else.


*World of Warmcraft, of course.
 
2014-01-08 01:56:29 PM  
Does my oven want to be on the internet? No, it wants to cook Jews, lots and lots of Jews, just like it's big brother.
 
2014-01-08 01:56:44 PM  
I would soooo love it if some script kiddie from Tajikistan could haxx0r my convection oven.

/has water sprinkler system; the worst they could do is pour 200 gallons of 10-year old water onto a single spot in my kitchen.
//I once put a cup of bleach in that water.
 
2014-01-08 01:56:57 PM  
I wouldn't mind being able to preheat the oven to a certain temperature so that it's ready to cook when I get home. I'm sure that some ovens can be pre-set to turn on at a certain time, but maybe I decided to cook a frozen pizza while I'm at work, or maybe I don't know when I'm going to be home until late in the day. It would be useful.
 
2014-01-08 01:57:35 PM  
What if you butt dial your oven and come home to no house.
 
2014-01-08 01:57:40 PM  
Holocaust thread trifecta in play?
 
2014-01-08 01:58:06 PM  
I want to control everything thing from my phone, computer, or tablet & have statistics of usage for every single item in my home.
 
2014-01-08 01:59:04 PM  
I found my oven living in the basement. And my extra large pump bottle of lotion is missing.

I don't really like the idea of Intratube-linked appliances. I'm not sure that having 110 volt machines hooked to a network that can't stop hackers from doing what they want is a good idea. I know power producers use code along their transmission lines and many parts of the world have the Intratubes available via their household mains.

Additionally, I don't want Google and other harvesters of data jotting down whether my refrigerator is out of ketchup.
 
2014-01-08 01:59:51 PM  
Open the door, oven.

I.. uh... can't. I'm self cleaning right now.
 
2014-01-08 02:00:13 PM  

Queensowntalia: My oven spends all day on WoW*. I can't get it to do anything else.


*World of Warmcraft, of course.


It could be a totally different way to complete your cooking dailies.
 
2014-01-08 02:02:11 PM  
Your oven wants a steak.
 
2014-01-08 02:02:38 PM  

busy chillin': Of course, my oven is super smart, it has a bunch of degrees.


Annnnnd we are done here
 
2014-01-08 02:02:48 PM  
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2014-01-08 02:03:58 PM  
Seriously, how long does it take to preheat an oven? Ten minutes? So what if you're not ready to pop that cornish hen in there until you're 36 minutes from the gym instead of 26. You really need an app for that?
 
2014-01-08 02:04:00 PM  

Starshines: An oven connected to the internet makes more sense than most other appliances. You can turn it on from the road and it's ready to cook as soon as you get home.


Agreed.  I would vote on Washer, Dryer, Oven, Crock Pot and Coffee Pot as the appliances that could be useful to have online in some function.  They could tell you when they are finished, you can check on them from anywhere, and the ability to shut them off or start them from the road would be cool.
 
2014-01-08 02:04:01 PM  

Sean M: Certain things don't need to be online.  Most kitchen appliances would fall into this category.


Stop thinking "access to email" and start thinking "remote control".

Local, in-home control of appliances can be very desirable for the same reason you TV remote is desirable -- you don't have to get off the couch to make changes. For your blender this probably doesn't matter, but for something as slow as an oven it might be very nice. And of course things like temperature probe monitoring are handy and could be integrated with the appliance.

In this respect "Internet" access is useful just because it's a standard way to interconnect things. You could write some proprietary control protocol that runs over not-quite-WiFi, but it's a lot easier to connect to things if you just put it on the network like any other device.

And there are things that could be useful in terms of out-of-home connectivity. A simple one is NTP -- self-setting clocks are all the rage. Another is perhaps integration with an "I'm away turn everything off" switch, or the ability to leave something in the oven and start it before you leave the office (like the long-existing time-bake feature, but for people with more variable schedules).
 
2014-01-08 02:05:35 PM  
You've got veal!
 
2014-01-08 02:06:18 PM  

sno man: My oven's opinions would make corners of Twitter smarter instantly.  It would freshen up the debate in the Politics tab too.



How is it with YouTube comments?
 
2014-01-08 02:06:30 PM  

uncleacid: What if you butt dial your oven and come home to no house.


There is no circumstance in which your oven should be able to burn down your house, no matter what settings you put into it. If it can that's a problem even without Internet access.
 
2014-01-08 02:07:25 PM  
My dutch oven says no, but it takes a while to convince it of something.

/Also, I suspect my knives are plotting something
 
2014-01-08 02:09:31 PM  

Snarfangel: sno man: My oven's opinions would make corners of Twitter smarter instantly.  It would freshen up the debate in the Politics tab too.


How is it with YouTube comments?


It told me to try safety mode....  I'm buying it a steak later.
 
2014-01-08 02:09:46 PM  
On one hand pre-heating your oven (or cooking something you put in there before leaving work) while driving home would be convenient. On the other, I wouldn't want a device that seriously increase my electric bill,  being controlled by some hacker.

/I have a internet-connected thermostat, so I probably shouldn't be talking.
 
2014-01-08 02:10:21 PM  

FrancoFile: I'm sorry, Dave.  I'm afraid I can't cook that.


HAHA. Good one.
 
2014-01-08 02:11:41 PM  

akya: On one hand pre-heating your oven (or cooking something you put in there before leaving work) while driving home would be convenient. On the other, I wouldn't want a device that seriously increase my electric bill,  being controlled by some hacker.

/I have a internet-connected thermostat, so I probably shouldn't be talking.


Your grammar sucks, so maybe you should stop posting, too.
 
2014-01-08 02:11:52 PM  
WOW!

With e-ovens, I can surf the oven interwebs for porn and get my rocks off BEFORE the apple pie is done.
 
2014-01-08 02:12:06 PM  

carrion_luggage: My oven doesn't want to be spammed with "One Weird Trick to Make Your Broiler Rack Longer" ads.


thats longer handle and bigger rack.
 
2014-01-08 02:14:25 PM  

WTP 2: carrion_luggage: My oven doesn't want to be spammed with "One Weird Trick to Make Your Broiler Rack Longer" ads.

thats longer handle and bigger rack.


I don't know what a bigger rack might look like.  I need visual proof.
 
2014-01-08 02:15:39 PM  
When I purchased a new home in 2001, it had a GE oven with settings for jewish days, so it would do whatever the oven needed to do on those days.  I remember it, because it had a control panel, that made it necessary to RTFM...  I thought at the time, that if you were a practicing Jew, you'd be able to figure out what you were supposed to do on those days..  Now that there is an option for having an on-line oven, I still can't think of one reason why I'd want that feature either.
 
2014-01-08 02:16:05 PM  

busy chillin': Of course, my oven is super smart, it has a bunch of degrees.


I just, I....Not bad. I am smiling.
 
2014-01-08 02:17:58 PM  

profplump: Sean M: Certain things don't need to be online.  Most kitchen appliances would fall into this category.

Stop thinking "access to email" and start thinking "remote control".

Local, in-home control of appliances can be very desirable for the same reason you TV remote is desirable -- you don't have to get off the couch to make changes. For your blender this probably doesn't matter, but for something as slow as an oven it might be very nice. And of course things like temperature probe monitoring are handy and could be integrated with the appliance.

In this respect "Internet" access is useful just because it's a standard way to interconnect things. You could write some proprietary control protocol that runs over not-quite-WiFi, but it's a lot easier to connect to things if you just put it on the network like any other device.

And there are things that could be useful in terms of out-of-home connectivity. A simple one is NTP -- self-setting clocks are all the rage. Another is perhaps integration with an "I'm away turn everything off" switch, or the ability to leave something in the oven and start it before you leave the office (like the long-existing time-bake feature, but for people with more variable schedules).


The X10 standard for home automation has been out for decades.  And their are any number of proprietary or semi-open extensions & replacements.

And every year we get new 'smart home' buzzword & hype.

Here's what needs to happen, IMHO

1) The electrical utilities and appliance manufacturers develop an open protocol (along the lines of SNMP, but with today's understanding of security.  Toasters are auto-shutoff after 20 minutes, for example.)
2) They produce smart outlets & switches for backwards compatability w/ dumb devices like crockpots and lights - basically what X10 etc do now.
3) When the utility installs a smart-meter in your house, you also get a free or nominal-cost controller. You use that controller to determine what the smart-meter can do to your appliances (major issue is HVAC, of course, but also hot water, dishwasher, washer&dryer)
4) If you want to buy a high-end controller to replace the freebee, you can.  The high-end controllers will be Internet-enabled. More likely, the high-end controller will VPN into a cloud service and you'll connect to the cloud service w/ your smartphone etc.  Contractually, you'll lease the controller+cloud in the same way that home security services are marketed.
 
2014-01-08 02:21:14 PM  
I'm not sure why I thought about it, but a talking oven that knows what you're cooking fat shaming you into eating healthy might be a good idea for weight loss.
/ohhh LB, frozen pizza again you miserable POS why don't you eat right!?!?
 
2014-01-08 02:21:37 PM  

Snarfangel: You've got veal!


WINNER !!!
 
2014-01-08 02:21:53 PM  

FrancoFile: The X10 standard for home automation has been out for decades.  And their are any number of proprietary or semi-open extensions & replacements.


That would be one of the proprietary, incompatible bits I was talking about -- the ones that make "Internet-connected" devices more desirable even if you never let them talk outside your local network. Which was one of my primary points.
 
2014-01-08 02:22:36 PM  
Personally I think an online oven with built in temperature probe that could message me when foods hit a certain temperature would be great.  It would be even more awesome if they could build in a heat resistant camera so I could see how the food was turning out without opening the door and altering the internal temperature.

I also thing washers & dryers that message you when their cycle is done would be killer too.  Speaking of, have you seen the control panels for some modern washers?  They've got a zillion settings, and an app to control that hot mess would be pretty spiffy.

As for the people worried about hackers taking over your blender, have you never heard of firewalls+router+vpn?
 
2014-01-08 02:22:36 PM  
So Android...but the phone they show is an iPhone. I guess Samsungs aren't sexy enough...
 
2014-01-08 02:29:34 PM  
Yeah, that's a good idea: Leave ovens vulnerable to hackers, burn somebody's house down.
 
2014-01-08 02:35:02 PM  

Driedsponge: Starshines: An oven connected to the internet makes more sense than most other appliances. You can turn it on from the road and it's ready to cook as soon as you get home.

Agreed.  I would vote on Washer, Dryer, Oven, Crock Pot and Coffee Pot as the appliances that could be useful to have online in some function.  They could tell you when they are finished, you can check on them from anywhere, and the ability to shut them off or start them from the road would be cool.


Heating/AC as well.
 
2014-01-08 02:35:41 PM  
Yeah, I'm in the group that there are some devices that really don't need to be connected to the Internet. Ovens are one of them.

My oven is smart enough as it is. Quite frequently, we'll get dinner prepared and put it into the cold oven and then program it go turn on in an hour, heat up to 350 degrees and stay there for an hour and a half and then go to "warm".

Quite nice to come home after a bike ride and dinner is already cooked and staying warm while you wash up and have a tasty beverage before dinner.

I can see an Internet connection that would allow you to change or cancel that type of programming after you've already set it but I don't think you should heat up your oven without a human making sure the only thing in the oven is your dinner.
 
2014-01-08 02:36:17 PM  
My oven is definitely smarter than some of the people I've run across, on the web
 
2014-01-08 02:36:52 PM  
That's really stupid.
 
2014-01-08 02:38:31 PM  

FrancoFile: 1) The electrical utilities and appliance manufacturers develop an open protocol (along the lines of SNMP, but with today's understanding of security.  Toasters are auto-shutoff after 20 minutes, for example.)


Why is the electrical utility in charge of anything? I mean, if you want to use Ethernet-over-AC instead of WiFi or Cat5 that might make sense (though arguably so would pulling a data bus along with AC wiring), but why are existing IP/HTTP technologies used to control so many other things not desirable here?

SNMP can be useful, as is any other completely standardized interface. But is mostly only used by people with lots of equipment who can't hassle with 1000 different interfaces, which is not the typical case for home appliances. From a consumer standpoint it would be handy if Facebook and Twitter and Instagram all offered a completely standardized interface so I can post to any or all of them in exactly the same way, but people seem to be able to manage just fine with their separate interfaces, both at the GUI and API level.

And doesn't your toaster already turn off after 20 minutes (or hopefully much less)?

3) When the utility installs a smart-meter in your house, you also get a free or nominal-cost controller. You use that controller to determine what the smart-meter can do to your appliances (major issue is HVAC, of course, but also hot water, dishwasher, washer&dryer)

I don't understand what my electrical meter has to do with whether or my appliances have a remote control. I might like to be able to read my own meter, but I don't see why it's a good place to centralize control functions -- if devices speak normal IP/HTTP you don't need any special tools to control them in the first place, and anyone who wants to can build whatever sort of integration/control system they like, with or without support for external companies.
 
2014-01-08 02:41:13 PM  
Damn oven is so busy surfing food porn I haven't eaten in days!
 
2014-01-08 02:41:33 PM  

profplump: FrancoFile: The X10 standard for home automation has been out for decades.  And their are any nuRight.mber of proprietary or semi-open extensions & replacements.

That would be one of the proprietary, incompatible bits I was talking about -- the ones that make "Internet-connected" devices more desirable even if you never let them talk outside your local network. Which was one of my primary points.


Right.  I think we actually agree.

The problem comes when I have a Samsung oven, a GE microwave, a Frigidaire refrigerator, and a Braun coffeemaker.  Now I have to go to 4 websites, remember 4 passwords, figure out 4 different UIs, etc.
 
2014-01-08 02:50:32 PM  

profplump: FrancoFile: 1) The electrical utilities and appliance manufacturers develop an open protocol (along the lines of SNMP, but with today's understanding of security.  Toasters are auto-shutoff after 20 minutes, for example.)

Why is the electrical utility in charge of anything? I mean, if you want to use Ethernet-over-AC instead of WiFi or Cat5 that might make sense (though arguably so would pulling a data bus along with AC wiring), but why are existing IP/HTTP technologies used to control so many other things not desirable here?

SNMP can be useful, as is any other completely standardized interface. But is mostly only used by people with lots of equipment who can't hassle with 1000 different interfaces, which is not the typical case for home appliances. From a consumer standpoint it would be handy if Facebook and Twitter and Instagram all offered a completely standardized interface so I can post to any or all of them in exactly the same way, but people seem to be able to manage just fine with their separate interfaces, both at the GUI and API level.

And doesn't your toaster already turn off after 20 minutes (or hopefully much less)?

3) When the utility installs a smart-meter in your house, you also get a free or nominal-cost controller. You use that controller to determine what the smart-meter can do to your appliances (major issue is HVAC, of course, but also hot water, dishwasher, washer&dryer)

I don't understand what my electrical meter has to do with whether or my appliances have a remote control. I might like to be able to read my own meter, but I don't see why it's a good place to centralize control functions -- if devices speak normal IP/HTTP you don't need any special tools to control them in the first place, and anyone who wants to can build whatever sort of integration/control system they like, with or without support for external companies.


The reason the utilities are rolling out smart meters is so they can reach into your house and adjust your thermostat if there's a rolling brownout or blackout.  Or delay the cycle on your water heater, etc.  For decades they have had agreements with industrial users to do similar things when the grid is stressed, now that we have the distributed computing smarts, they want to do it with residential customers as well.

I'm trying to kill 2 birds with one stone.
 
2014-01-08 02:57:19 PM  

Daemonik: It would be even more awesome if they could build in a heat resistant camera so I could see how the food was turning out without opening the door and altering the internal temperature.


Mine has a window and a light bulb.

But I get where you're going. The smart probe would make cooking a roast or broiling a steak much better. A tablet interface and internet access is probably overkill, they just need to hire some better industrial designers.

Appliances shouldn't look busy or be complicated to work. As much effort as went into engineering it should go into the design and layout of the controls.

Not to get off on a tangent but... automotive designers need to be shot. Farking hidden buttons, busy displays and a half dozen stalks on the column with 57 functions each. No room left so we move the freakin' shifter halfway across the dash board, cause we never use that every time we get in the car. Then some damnfool decides to invent something tremendously dumb like the BMW iDrive.

Marks of terrible design right there. I guess your could say it's relevant. For most people a car is just an appliance, and so is a computer but that's a terrible religious war to delve into.

I'm just glad to see the return of knobs and levers to appliances. As cool as the touch screen or membrane pad was in the 1980's the controls are unintuitive and don't allow muscle memory.

Importantly, could it hurt to put words on controls? What does four dots mean? Why is there a squid on that button? I don't speak cave art.
 
2014-01-08 03:03:18 PM  

Daemonik: Personally I think an online oven with built in temperature probe that could message me when foods hit a certain temperature would be great.  It would be even more awesome if they could build in a heat resistant camera so I could see how the food was turning out without opening the door and altering the internal temperature....


Oooooh...mEssage.

Darn.
 
2014-01-08 03:05:44 PM  
Be great for assassinations

Send.ShutoffPilot
Send.OpenGasLine
Wait(900)
Send.IngiteBurner
 
2014-01-08 03:19:21 PM  

Ishkur: Yeah, that's a good idea: Leave ovens vulnerable to hackers, burn somebody's house down.


And here I was just thinking about being annoyed by smart ads from Tyson, Butterball and Betty Crocker.
 
2014-01-08 03:31:06 PM  

busy chillin': Of course, my oven is super smart, it has a bunch of degrees.


LOL

The winner
 
2014-01-08 03:33:12 PM  

busy chillin': Of course, my oven is super smart, it has a bunch of degrees.


smartup.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-08 03:34:01 PM  

Starshines: An oven connected to the internet makes more sense than most other appliances. You can turn it on from the road and it's ready to cook as soon as you get home.


And you forget that you put stuff in there to get it off the counter/because you don't have anywhere else to put them and by the time you get home, the firefighters are hosing down what's left of your smoldering house.

Neat.
 
2014-01-08 03:50:11 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Starshines: An oven connected to the internet makes more sense than most other appliances. You can turn it on from the road and it's ready to cook as soon as you get home.

And you forget that you put stuff in there to get it off the counter/because you don't have anywhere else to put them and by the time you get home, the firefighters are hosing down what's left of your smoldering house.

Neat.


Never mind that stoves/ovens have had timers for what maybe 50 years or so that'll do the same thing. with the added bonus of being there when you set it, so you can check and get that stuff out of there.
 
2014-01-08 03:55:33 PM  
My oven does not want to be anthropomorphized.

(Neither does my fridge or dishwasher.)
 
2014-01-08 04:04:16 PM  
Dude your turkey is undercooked cuz the oven's DNS setting got changed.
Have you scanned your oven for viruses?
That Auchwitz virus is a doozy!!
 
2014-01-08 04:06:38 PM  
I sent mine an email to ask about it, but no response so far.
 
2014-01-08 04:06:46 PM  
With my luck, the gottvordammit oven would get a greenlight before I do. #FML
 
2014-01-08 04:09:22 PM  

Daemonik: As for the people worried about hackers taking over your blender, have you never heard of firewalls+router+vpn?


Aren't home routers notoriously easy to hack?  And rarely ever patched?
 
2014-01-08 04:14:11 PM  

Ishkur: Yeah, that's a good idea: Leave ovens vulnerable to hackers, burn somebody's house down.


That's a bit unsophisticated, no?

More like:  hackers email you a video of your kitchen with your microwave turning on and off while you're in France, and directions to send money Western Union to some remote location and we don't burn your house down.
 
2014-01-08 04:17:22 PM  
It wants to tweet to tell me when my cookies are done. It really does.
 
2014-01-08 04:34:40 PM  
You Farkers are sooooooooo helping my workday.

/Gonna go home and hug my oven tonight.
 
2014-01-08 04:50:25 PM  
I asked my oven if it wants to be on the internet. It won't tell me. I don't know whether my oven is just introverted, or if it needs to ponder the implications of being connected to such a vast universe of information.
 
2014-01-08 04:54:10 PM  
"I owned a Dacor electric range once; they are built to last. I replaced it with a gas range by Kitchenaid; it has electronic controls for the oven that are now dead."

This is exactly why they don't need to be adding this kind of technology to kitchen appliances. Not only is it one more thing to brake down but an appliance should last 20 years minimum. Now take a look at electronics from even 10 years ago and show me one that's still has a usable application in today's world, hell it would be a stretch to find one 5 years old that does.
 
2014-01-08 05:07:41 PM  
My cooking is embarrasing enough by itself, I don't need my stove mocking me by uploading the evidence to YouTube.
 
2014-01-08 05:19:46 PM  
I seem to remember reading about a similar oven a couple of years ago. It would refrigerate your food until time to cook and then start cooking on a preset schedule. It also had an Ethernet connection so you could dial in and change the schedule if plans changed. Not quite as fancy as this, but the idea of internet connected appliances has been around for a while. Whatever happened to the internet connected refrigerators?
 
2014-01-08 05:32:22 PM  
Humph, TreeHugger magazine eh?  If they are truly hard core tree-huggers they would be cooking over a fire in the forest, not with an oven.

Disclaimer:  Despite my handle, I am not affiliated with that website.  In fact I tried to buy that domain name ages ago before they had it, but the asking price was kinda high.
 
2014-01-08 05:40:07 PM  
Does your oven want to be on the Internet?

Until it can tweet me, how will I ever know?
 
2014-01-08 06:29:15 PM  
Dear Corporations,

Some things don't need to be "smart". It is perfectly fine if an oven doesn't have automatic upgrades or a timer that syncs to your ipod to tell you something your ears should be able to discern from the loud beeping sounds telling you your food is done.
 
2014-01-08 07:00:24 PM  
Oven porn?;
www.thermador.ca

OOh, oh yeah baby, turn that chicken.

You know what I like.
 
2014-01-08 07:48:59 PM  

metallion: When I purchased a new home in 2001, it had a GE oven with settings for jewish days, so it would do whatever the oven needed to do on those days.


You must have been one of the first residents in the new Auschwitz Meadows subdivision.
 
2014-01-08 11:40:03 PM  

busy chillin': Of course, my oven is super smart, it has a bunch of degrees.


My oven did too many drugs in college and now it's stuck on "broil"

Starshines: An oven connected to the internet makes more sense than most other appliances. You can turn it on from the road and it's ready to cook as soon as you get home.


And when you're killed on the way home because you're playing on your smart phone, your oven will then burn the house down for you and kill all your pets, so they don't have to live without you.
 
2014-01-09 12:21:42 AM  
www.actualfunnypictures.com

/Pretty much how I feel about any kitchen appliance having the net and I love usually love techie / geeky stuff.
 
2014-01-09 08:25:14 AM  

Spanky3woods: My oven is smart enough as it is. Quite frequently, we'll get dinner prepared and put it into the cold oven and then program it go turn on in an hour, heat up to 350 degrees and stay there for an hour and a half and then go to "warm".


Mine doesn't let me do that. You have to start the program with the heat on. I think the reason there is so that some idiot isn't going to put a raw chicken in the oven, leave it for a day in room temperature, and then cook it.
 
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