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(ESPN)   Roger Goodell: "We cannot guarantee that every cold-weather city can host a Super Bowl, but at least I can say I will push for playoff games on Friday and Monday along with the traditional Saturday and Sunday"   (espn.go.com) divider line 101
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2014-01-08 08:54:54 AM
I think a playoff game each day from Friday to Sunday would work out, except it would suck for a team that had to play Sunday having to play the next Friday against a team that had full rest
 
2014-01-08 08:56:25 AM
I'd rather see the Superbowl moved to Saturday night.  Superbowl parties always have that cloud of Monday morning hanging over them.
 
2014-01-08 09:03:31 AM

GarySZ: I'd rather see the Superbowl moved to Saturday night.  Superbowl parties always have that cloud of Monday morning hanging over them.


It's a battle between making the "now" great and the "tomorrow" being awful.
 
2014-01-08 09:03:57 AM
More playoffs?  What, is every team in the league going to automatically earn a wild card slot on week 1?
 
2014-01-08 09:05:51 AM

Great_Milenko: What, is every team in the league going to automatically earn a wild card slot on week 1?


Well, not Cleveland
 
2014-01-08 09:06:22 AM
No more teams in the playoffs!  What've we've got now works fine.  Don't be like the NBA.
 
2014-01-08 09:06:30 AM

Great_Milenko: More playoffs?  What, is every team in the league going to automatically earn a wild card slot on week 1?


No.
 
2014-01-08 09:07:48 AM

dentalhilljack: No more teams in the playoffs!  What've we've got now works fine.  Don't be like the NBA.


Half of the teams in the NBA make the playoffs.  The regular season matters.  You just dont like the NBA and that is okay.
 
2014-01-08 09:09:33 AM
I wanna see a Suprb Owl held at Lambeau for the lols

Could you picture how coldFeb at GB would be?
 
2014-01-08 09:11:26 AM

GarySZ: I'd rather see the Superbowl moved to Saturday night. Superbowl parties always have that cloud of Monday morning hanging over them.


100% on board with that. It's such an event anyway the ratings will stay the same plus they have the bye week before so who cares if they get one less day of rest.
 
2014-01-08 09:11:41 AM
I have no clue why the NFL management seems dead set on farking up a system that is working fine.  I know, more $, but it seems asinine to risk screwing things up.
 
2014-01-08 09:13:34 AM
Super Bowl Saturday.  Other than that, the current playoff format is great.
 
2014-01-08 09:14:03 AM

ghall3: GarySZ: I'd rather see the Superbowl moved to Saturday night. Superbowl parties always have that cloud of Monday morning hanging over them.

100% on board with that. It's such an event anyway the ratings will stay the same plus they have the bye week before so who cares if they get one less day of rest.


(In best scruffy voice) second
 
2014-01-08 09:19:02 AM
Jerry Jones wants to keep adding playoff teams until his Cowboys finally can get in.
 
2014-01-08 09:28:59 AM
Goose. Golden Egg. Lesson.
 
2014-01-08 09:29:36 AM
"Every city can't host a Super Bowl just because of the sheer enormity of this event. ... Will we look at other Super Bowls in cold-weather sites? I think we'll wait and make that evaluation later."

Translation: fark off, Cleveland.  Toronto will get a Super Bowl before you do.

/A Chicago SB would be badass.
//Could Seattle host a SB?
 
2014-01-08 09:36:42 AM

fruitloop: "Every city can't host a Super Bowl just because of the sheer enormity of this event. ... Will we look at other Super Bowls in cold-weather sites? I think we'll wait and make that evaluation later."

Translation: fark off, Cleveland.  Toronto will get a Super Bowl before you do.

/A Chicago SB would be badass.
//Could Seattle host a SB?


Well Toronto at least has a dome...and their chief export isn't crippling depression
 
2014-01-08 09:44:07 AM

ghall3: GarySZ: I'd rather see the Superbowl moved to Saturday night. Superbowl parties always have that cloud of Monday morning hanging over them.

100% on board with that. It's such an event anyway the ratings will stay the same plus they have the bye week before so who cares if they get one less day of rest.


I think most NFL fans would enjoy the SB on a Saturday for reasons mentioned here. So...why isn't?
 
2014-01-08 09:44:22 AM
When Pat Bowlen had Mile High Stadium replaced, the NFL told him it would never have a SuperbOwl there unless it had a dome. Bowlen refused saying that an an outdoor stadium is an advantage when playing warm weather teams (including hosting division rivals San Diego and Oakland every year). Now that there's a big game in New Jersey this year, the NFL may just change its mind about Denver. It would be a great place for the championship.
 
2014-01-08 09:49:02 AM

FriarED1: When Pat Bowlen had Mile High Stadium replaced, the NFL told him it would never have a SuperbOwl there unless it had a dome. Bowlen refused saying that an an outdoor stadium is an advantage when playing warm weather teams (including hosting division rivals San Diego and Oakland every year). Now that there's a big game in New Jersey this year, the NFL may just change its mind about Denver. It would be a great place for the championship.


Agreed. Denver's actually a warmer place in February than New York.
 
2014-01-08 09:52:59 AM

GarySZ: I'd rather see the Superbowl moved to Saturday night.  Superbowl parties always have that cloud of Monday morning hanging over them.


that's an awesome idea.  never happen, but awesome idea.
 
2014-01-08 09:57:14 AM
Since people are suggesting a Saturday Superbowl, what are the chances that London gets the Superbowl?  If they hold it at 9PM london time, that's 4PM east, 1PM pacific.  It would be the logical extension of playing all these games over there and you're guaranteed to actually show the Brits a good game.  Just a thought.
 
2014-01-08 10:06:40 AM

Stimied in a Rut: Since people are suggesting a Saturday Superbowl, what are the chances that London gets the Superbowl?  If they hold it at 9PM london time, that's 4PM east, 1PM pacific.  It would be the logical extension of playing all these games over there and you're guaranteed to actually show the Brits a good game.  Just a thought.


Sounds good to me, but what is the NFL's fascination with London?
 
2014-01-08 10:08:10 AM
The Commish also thinks it would be awesome to hold a Superb Owl game where the locals would have to be out until dawn in order for the game to be shown in American prime time.
 
2014-01-08 10:15:15 AM

under a mountain: Stimied in a Rut: Since people are suggesting a Saturday Superbowl, what are the chances that London gets the Superbowl?  If they hold it at 9PM london time, that's 4PM east, 1PM pacific.  It would be the logical extension of playing all these games over there and you're guaranteed to actually show the Brits a good game.  Just a thought.

Sounds good to me, but what is the NFL's fascination with London?


I always assumed it was because the Euro is worth more than the Dollar and the millions of people there. Beyond that I have no clue. They love their version of football and force feeding them a yearly Jags game isn't going to change their mind
 
2014-01-08 10:17:06 AM
If the NFL wants to improve the playoffs, don't change the playoff system, it is fine, get rid of 1/2 the commercials and charge more for the slots to let the game flow.  The Superbowl is close to unwatchable now.

Oh, get rid of the stupid half time show.  Get a local high school marching band to march up and down the field playing '76 Trombones' for 20 minutes to entertain the crowd and dump the mini concerts.
 
2014-01-08 10:18:33 AM

eagles95: They love their version of football and force feeding them a yearly Jags game isn't going to change their mind


They get the Lions next year maybe that'll be the ticket.
 
2014-01-08 10:23:13 AM
Did Roger Goodell catch the crazy from FARK loonies or vice versa?
 
2014-01-08 10:23:43 AM

GarySZ: I'd rather see the Superbowl moved to Saturday night.  Superbowl parties always have that cloud of Monday morning hanging over them.


Yeah right, part of the extortion scheme the league pulls on cities involves the revenue generated all weekend.  You're losing a day of revenue and a night of hotel stays (who's leaving right after the game?) if you play on Saturday.

Heck, I'd guess that if enough places started making that Monday a holiday, the league would try to move the game BACK a day.

\ Does anyone remember when the Giants played the Bills and the next day was MLK day?  That was so awesome to not have to go to school the next day
\\ On a sidenote, Goodell misused the word 'enormity' -- sorry, pet peeve -- that word is reserved for something that is not only large in scale, but also considered to be bad
 
2014-01-08 10:28:41 AM

thecpt: fruitloop: "Every city can't host a Super Bowl just because of the sheer enormity of this event. ... Will we look at other Super Bowls in cold-weather sites? I think we'll wait and make that evaluation later."

Translation: fark off, Cleveland.  Toronto will get a Super Bowl before you do.

/A Chicago SB would be badass.
//Could Seattle host a SB?

Well Toronto at least has a dome...and their chief export isn't crippling depression


...you've never seen the Leafs play, have you?
 
2014-01-08 10:34:43 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I have no clue why the NFL management seems dead set on farking up a system that is working fine.  I know, more $, but it seems asinine to risk screwing things up.


They're taking their cues from NCAA basketball?
 
2014-01-08 10:39:59 AM
balki1867:

\ Does anyone remember when the Giants played the Bills and the next day was MLK day?  That was so awesome to not have to go to school the next day

Don't think that actually happened, but if they could stretch it out to Super Bowl being played on the Sunday before Presidents Day I'm all for it.
 
2014-01-08 10:53:22 AM

under a mountain: Don't think that actually happened, but if they could stretch it out to Super Bowl being played on the Sunday before Presidents Day I'm all for it.


Good catch.  It must've been some semester break holiday we had, and I remember playing in the backyard with a friend on the day after.
 
2014-01-08 10:57:52 AM

grinding_journalist: GarySZ: I'd rather see the Superbowl moved to Saturday night.  Superbowl parties always have that cloud of Monday morning hanging over them.

It's a battle between making the "now" great and the "tomorrow" being awful.


i soundly support this message.

/ it was an impossibility to go to work the day after the saints won the superbowl.  i mean, our bars don't close, and that was the most amazing moment to be in new orleans that i can remember.
// i have a friend who lost his job for being 15 minutes late that monday.  i mean, geez, even our federal courts closed down due to saintsmania
 
2014-01-08 11:00:14 AM
Stop farking with what is perfect. All I would change about the NFL now is roll back some of the "safety" rule changes that neuter the defense and return games.

That said, I could get behind Superb Owl Saturday for a few reasons...

1) increased international viewership. When I lived in London, kickoff was around midnight. I never made it through the whole game and never got close.

2) the parties would be 2x as good. With an entire day to recover, more drinks and more fun will be had by all

3) I actually think this would INCREASE travelers going to the host city. As it is, you pretty much have to sacrifice Monday and/or Tuesday as travel days, which sucks. People will go rip-roaring crazy Saturday night partying with their team. And can you imagine getting the chance to meet one of the players later at a club? How cool is that?
 
2014-01-08 11:04:31 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Stop farking with what is perfect. All I would change about the NFL now is roll back some of the "safety" rule changes that neuter the defense and return games.


Changing OPI from "spot of foul" to "5 yards, no auto 1st" would go a LONG way to helping this.
 
2014-01-08 11:10:18 AM

grinding_journalist: HaywoodJablonski: Stop farking with what is perfect. All I would change about the NFL now is roll back some of the "safety" rule changes that neuter the defense and return games.

Changing OPI from "spot of foul" to "5 yards, no auto 1st" would go a LONG way to helping this.


You mean DPI?
 
2014-01-08 11:12:50 AM

HaywoodJablonski: grinding_journalist: HaywoodJablonski: Stop farking with what is perfect. All I would change about the NFL now is roll back some of the "safety" rule changes that neuter the defense and return games.

Changing OPI from "spot of foul" to "5 yards, no auto 1st" would go a LONG way to helping this.

You mean DPI?


Even if so, I don't agree entirely. You're basically inviting hack-a-back (patent pending) for the last 3-5 minutes of a game.
 
2014-01-08 11:13:21 AM

dentalhilljack: No more teams in the playoffs!  What've we've got now works fine.  Don't be like the NBA.


NFL players can't play as often or as much as NBA players, because they're not in the same shape and don't know how to protect themselves.  NBA players earn much more valuable playoff experience and entertain their fans far more as a result of this.
 
2014-01-08 11:15:59 AM

grinding_journalist: HaywoodJablonski: Stop farking with what is perfect. All I would change about the NFL now is roll back some of the "safety" rule changes that neuter the defense and return games.

Changing OPI from "spot of foul" to "5 yards, no auto 1st" would go a LONG way to helping this.


5 yards for DPI would be terrible.  It would probably end up being worth it for the defense to take the five yard penalty and just intentionally interfere with some long plays.

One thing I'm waiting for the NFL to do is to just get rid of kickoffs altogether and just start each drive as a touchback.  It's obvious that's what they want to do, but only keep the pointless kickoff there for the extra commercial break.  I say, either go back to the old kickoff position that actually resulted in returns on a regular basis, or quit the farce and start everyone at the 20.
 
2014-01-08 11:35:14 AM

HaywoodJablonski: You mean DPI?


Yes.

NeoCortex42: 5 yards for DPI would be terrible. It would probably end up being worth it for the defense to take the five yard penalty and just intentionally interfere with some long plays.


As opposed to "chuck it deep and wait for the flag"? Fine, give them 10 yards- but the notion of "he grabbed his wrist for a quarter second, give him 60 yards" is asinine.
 
2014-01-08 11:59:38 AM
As much as I'd love to see a Superb Owl in Green Bay just for the lulz and history, I'm not sure they have the needed infrastructure in place to support it properly.

Havent been there in 15 years though, so it may have changed since I left.
 
2014-01-08 12:00:29 PM

Gunny Highway: dentalhilljack: No more teams in the playoffs!  What've we've got now works fine.  Don't be like the NBA.

Half of the teams in the NBA make the playoffs.  The regular season matters.  You just dont like the NBA and that is okay.


Thank you with helping me get over my blind hatred.  I can see clearly now.  In fact, I know recognize that of all leagues, college football has it right.  Why stop at half the league being eligible?  We should have a postseason where almost 60% of the teams are eligible!!!
 
2014-01-08 12:06:22 PM

dentalhilljack: Gunny Highway: dentalhilljack: No more teams in the playoffs!  What've we've got now works fine.  Don't be like the NBA.

Half of the teams in the NBA make the playoffs.  The regular season matters.  You just dont like the NBA and that is okay.

Thank you with helping me get over my blind hatred.  I can see clearly now.  In fact, I know recognize that of all leagues, college football has it right.  Why stop at half the league being eligible?  We should have a postseason where almost 60% of the teams are eligible!!!


How would you fix the NBA Playoffs?
 
2014-01-08 12:07:17 PM

grinding_journalist: HaywoodJablonski: You mean DPI?

Yes.

NeoCortex42: 5 yards for DPI would be terrible. It would probably end up being worth it for the defense to take the five yard penalty and just intentionally interfere with some long plays.

As opposed to "chuck it deep and wait for the flag"? Fine, give them 10 yards- but the notion of "he grabbed his wrist for a quarter second, give him 60 yards" is asinine.


The reason it's a spot foul for DPI and an automatic 1st for defensive holding is that anything less incentivizes DPI.

Hell even now DBs know that if you're about to get beat deep grab the guy - the penalty (likely just 5 and a 1st) is better than the TD.

Why would you NOT interfere if you think you're going to get beat deep?
 
2014-01-08 12:19:13 PM

xaks: As much as I'd love to see a Superb Owl in Green Bay just for the lulz and history, I'm not sure they have the needed infrastructure in place to support it properly.

Havent been there in 15 years though, so it may have changed since I left.


Besides one of the main bridges almost collapsing into the icy river nothing has changed. I dont think the state of WI has enough hotel rooms to host a Super Bowl. Not to mention transportation infrastructure to handle 100's of thousands of fans.

/Wait...1 thing changed in GB...we got a Costco
 
2014-01-08 12:21:41 PM

Gunny Highway: dentalhilljack: Gunny Highway: dentalhilljack: No more teams in the playoffs!  What've we've got now works fine.  Don't be like the NBA.

Half of the teams in the NBA make the playoffs.  The regular season matters.  You just dont like the NBA and that is okay.

Thank you with helping me get over my blind hatred.  I can see clearly now.  In fact, I know recognize that of all leagues, college football has it right.  Why stop at half the league being eligible?  We should have a postseason where almost 60% of the teams are eligible!!!

How would you fix the NBA Playoffs?


Shorten the season by 20 games
Shorten each game by 10 minutes
Shorten the number of games in the early rounds (3 then 5 then 7)

Immediate improvement to the quality of play in the league and the excitement of the playoffs. You might even get Finals ratings that win that evening's competition
 
2014-01-08 12:23:59 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Gunny Highway: dentalhilljack: Gunny Highway: dentalhilljack: No more teams in the playoffs!  What've we've got now works fine.  Don't be like the NBA.

Half of the teams in the NBA make the playoffs.  The regular season matters.  You just dont like the NBA and that is okay.

Thank you with helping me get over my blind hatred.  I can see clearly now.  In fact, I know recognize that of all leagues, college football has it right.  Why stop at half the league being eligible?  We should have a postseason where almost 60% of the teams are eligible!!!

How would you fix the NBA Playoffs?

Shorten the season by 20 games
Shorten each game by 10 minutes
Shorten the number of games in the early rounds (3 then 5 then 7)

Immediate improvement to the quality of play in the league and the excitement of the playoffs. You might even get Finals ratings that win that evening's competition


How would that help the quality of play and excitement?  Why would you be more apt to watch the NBA if they instituted your changes.
 
2014-01-08 12:29:51 PM
Because the 82-game season is too long and taxing. So you don't get the best out of every player every night. With more on the line in the regular season it becomes more compelling. As it is, I can happily ignore 95% of all games in the regular season for no penalty.

The playoffs take TWO MONTHS. That's way too long, and I don't have enough interest (mostly because the long regular season hasn't drawn me in) to follow closely enough.
 
2014-01-08 12:30:21 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Shorten the season by 20 games
Shorten each game by 10 minutes
Shorten the number of games in the early rounds (3 then 5 then 7)

Immediate improvement to the quality of play in the league and the excitement of the playoffs. You might even get Finals ratings that win that evening's competition


I'm ok with the length of the game and regular season, but they could take an entire round off the playoffs and it would be just fine by me.  Or maybe have 5 teams per conference, with the two wild cards playing a best-of-3.

Then again, I've been to two NBA games in my life and didn't pay either time, so my opinion is highly irrelevant to David Stern.
 
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