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(Bozeman Daily Chronicle)   Montanans are amused by the nation's complaining about the cold. "Outdoor recess is canceled when it's 10 below zero"   (bozemandailychronicle.com) divider line 40
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2014-01-07 07:18:02 PM
That is stupid.
 
2014-01-07 07:20:36 PM
I was in northwestern Montana this August and one day in Kalispell it was over 90oF and the locals were going crazy. I live in Phoenix, so I took it in stride.

/people get used to the normal temperatures for their area
//film at 10
 
2014-01-07 07:20:50 PM
Alaska kids mock those sissies in Montana.  Outdoor recess was cancelled at -20 in Fairbanks and North Pole.
 
2014-01-07 07:20:58 PM
When in the Air Force, outside work stopped at -40, however it was often -39.
 
2014-01-07 07:29:37 PM
An Arab prayer: if I go to hell, I hope I remember my coat. Or something like that.
 
2014-01-07 07:31:06 PM
It's almost like our country is so large that some places don't get every kind of weather and are therefore unprepared for dealing with it.
 
2014-01-07 07:32:08 PM
Lived in Alaska for years, NEVER a snow day for the kids, even after 24" or 30 below, recess was cut to 20 minutes but never cancelled.
 
2014-01-07 07:34:44 PM
it's cold in the winter, ya'll
 
2014-01-07 07:38:20 PM
Inuits amused by Montanans' blustering say, "LoL, you guys cancel outdoor recess?  What do you do for the rest of outdoor school?"
 
2014-01-07 07:38:22 PM
Imagine that... people who chose to live in places significantly warmer than Montana aren't used to dealing with Montana-like temperatures!
 
2014-01-07 08:14:03 PM
It's a dry cold.

/no really
 
2014-01-07 08:14:37 PM
Yeah, but watch them cry like little girls if the temp gets over 85.
 
2014-01-07 08:22:35 PM

bigdog1960: When in the Air Force, outside work stopped at -40, however it was often -39.


My sister is living in Shanghai, apparently they start shutting things down due to heat at 50 degrees C. She said there were a lot of days the official high was 49 this past summer.

I remember one day when it was we got off school because it was too cold and they couldn't start most of the busses. By mid day it was a pretty good day to go out and do stuff.

This was in rural southern Ontario. So, used to cold and if busses weren't running there weren't enough students to bother holding classes.
 
2014-01-07 08:23:45 PM
Yeah--pretty much covered by "go figure--not everywhere is Montana".

Boring CSB:

Milwaukee has been -10 to -15 lately and even work has been cancelled.  I simply don't understand why.  I cannot be the only person here who has thick boots, puffy gloves, a hat, and a decent coat.
 
2014-01-07 08:34:27 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Yeah, but watch them cry like little girls if the temp gets over 85.


^This

Or if the humidity breaks 60%
 
2014-01-07 08:46:59 PM

fickenchucker: Yeah--pretty much covered by "go figure--not everywhere is Montana".

Boring CSB:

Milwaukee has been -10 to -15 lately and even work has been cancelled.  I simply don't understand why.  I cannot be the only person here who has thick boots, puffy gloves, a hat, and a decent coat.


I had to be on the East Coast last week (CSB: barely made it out of NYC last Thursday) and when going through security someone lost their gloves. My response was, "Gloves, I'm from Southern California... what are "gloves?""

/Funnier at the time.
//Still funny in my head.
///Too much effort already put into this post to delete it.
 
2014-01-07 08:47:34 PM
IIRC Montana cold is dryer and less brutal.
 
2014-01-07 08:47:53 PM

dywed88: bigdog1960: When in the Air Force, outside work stopped at -40, however it was often -39.

My sister is living in Shanghai, apparently they start shutting things down due to heat at 50 degrees C. She said there were a lot of days the official high was 49 this past summer.

I remember one day when it was we got off school because it was too cold and they couldn't start most of the busses. By mid day it was a pretty good day to go out and do stuff.

This was in rural southern Ontario. So, used to cold and if busses weren't running there weren't enough students to bother holding classes.


I'm in ruralish southernish Ontario right now, and classes were cancelled today because it was -20.  In Ottawa, we called that March.
 
2014-01-07 09:02:39 PM
Yes, Montana is a horrible place and is full of sissies. Please stay away.
 
2014-01-07 09:16:23 PM

JPINFV: fickenchucker: Yeah--pretty much covered by "go figure--not everywhere is Montana".

Boring CSB:

Milwaukee has been -10 to -15 lately and even work has been cancelled.  I simply don't understand why.  I cannot be the only person here who has thick boots, puffy gloves, a hat, and a decent coat.

I had to be on the East Coast last week (CSB: barely made it out of NYC last Thursday) and when going through security someone lost their gloves. My response was, "Gloves, I'm from Southern California... what are "gloves?""

/Funnier at the time.
//Still funny in my head.
///Too much effort already put into this post to delete it.


A high school friend of mine went to grad school at Stanford.  One Christmas a bunch of us went to see a movie, and when we left the theatre he put on a toque.  It was +5°C.  I told him that living in California had made him weak.  He was hard-pressed to disagree.
 
2014-01-07 09:17:38 PM
It's pretty easy to be amused and unsympathetic when necessity demands one's perennial preparedness.  Let's see how amused Bozeman is when it hits 115F.
 
2014-01-07 09:54:21 PM

tomerson: It's pretty easy to be amused and unsympathetic when necessity demands one's perennial preparedness.  Let's see how amused Bozeman is when it hits 115F.


They will all swoon and most will die. I told you the place is crawling with sissies and is generally horrible. Do not come here.
 
2014-01-07 09:54:57 PM
Good for Montana. Somebody should point out to them that not everybody is the same, and that being able to stand cold temperatures isn't really something to lord over other people.

/I'm looking at you, jackasses from Chicago
//if you like the wind and the cold, stay where the wind and cold are
///don't move to an area with a moderate climate and then biatch that people don't feel cold the same way you do
 
2014-01-07 10:08:02 PM

fickenchucker: Yeah--pretty much covered by "go figure--not everywhere is Montana".

Boring CSB:

Milwaukee has been -10 to -15 lately and even work has been cancelled.  I simply don't understand why.  I cannot be the only person here who has thick boots, puffy gloves, a hat, and a decent coat.


Yeah, but how are people supposed to be stylish in puffy coats and mukluks?

It's been 0 and lower here the last couple days. To go to work I put on a pair of 600 gram boots and a big ear flap hat and carry office shoes in my bag.

The last two days I've been hearing the people around me crying about how it's so cold their feet are going numb walking the block from their apartment to their car, and their ears hurt when the wind blows.

No such thing as bad weather, just the wrong gear.
 
2014-01-07 10:44:36 PM

MontanaDave: Yes, Montana is a horrible place and is full of sissies. Please stay away.


That's only in the two cities. If you go out into the countryside, you'll be confronted by gun-toting, paranoid rednecks who think you're going to take over their mining claim. The cowshiat is a foot deep everywhere, and those cows are crazy and feral--they have to fight off the wolves. The wind is generally blowing 40 or 50 miles an hour.

They don't tell you any of this in the brochures; for obvious reasons.
 
2014-01-07 10:48:29 PM

Thingster: No such thing as bad weather, just the wrong gear.



THIS^^^^^^

Many years of camping has made the kids and I nearly immune to rain, sleet, snow, and whatever else nature throws at us.
 
2014-01-07 10:56:37 PM

cryinoutloud: MontanaDave: Yes, Montana is a horrible place and is full of sissies. Please stay away.

That's only in the two cities. If you go out into the countryside, you'll be confronted by gun-toting, paranoid rednecks who think you're going to take over their mining claim. The cowshiat is a foot deep everywhere, and those cows are crazy and feral--they have to fight off the wolves. The wind is generally blowing 40 or 50 miles an hour.

They don't tell you any of this in the brochures; for obvious reasons.


This!  So much this.
 
2014-01-07 11:28:12 PM

fickenchucker: Thingster: No such thing as bad weather, just the wrong gear.


THIS^^^^^^

Many years of camping has made the kids and I nearly immune to rain, sleet, snow, and whatever else nature throws at us.


I was a "tough it" type until I bought a proper soft shell.

Now I just laugh at people that buy a designer whatever piece of clothing, but won't buy a proper pair of boots or modern design coat (each of which probably cost less than those high heels, and you'll get years, if not decades, of utility out of it).
 
2014-01-07 11:41:02 PM
Having lived in Montana and Indiana for many years in each, Indiana cold is by far 100x more cold feeling due to the excessive humidity associated with weather here. Living in Bozeman, -20 wasn't even all that cold feeling to me, put a wool hat, some gloves, and a regular heavy coat on and go about your business. -13 yesterday night in Southern Indiana was farking brutal, I was layered in such a way that I'm sure I looked like the kid from The Christmas Story and I was still freezing when I got inside from feeding the livestock.

The snow is also different, as is how road crews handle the road. In Montana, I rarely ever saw road crews spread salt, usually just very large sand at intersections, and it stayed cold so that it didn't change to ice and thaw, then refreeze to ice, and back like it does here in Indiana, it stayed crunchy almost. Driving around Montana in the winter was never problematic for me. However the wet, heavy snow in Indiana coupled with the retardation of the road crews makes driving difficult and 4WD a must where I live.

Every summer when we go to visit family they're whining because it's 89* and 7% humidity. It feels perfectly great to me. Whereas back home in Indiana it's 89* and 84% humidity and you want to murder people if it'll make you cooler by bathing in their blood.
 
2014-01-08 01:26:08 AM

Poowaddins: Having lived in Montana and Indiana for many years in each, Indiana cold is by far 100x more cold feeling due to the excessive humidity associated with weather here. Living in Bozeman, -20 wasn't even all that cold feeling to me, put a wool hat, some gloves, and a regular heavy coat on and go about your business. -13 yesterday night in Southern Indiana was farking brutal, I was layered in such a way that I'm sure I looked like the kid from The Christmas Story and I was still freezing when I got inside from feeding the livestock.

The snow is also different, as is how road crews handle the road. In Montana, I rarely ever saw road crews spread salt, usually just very large sand at intersections, and it stayed cold so that it didn't change to ice and thaw, then refreeze to ice, and back like it does here in Indiana, it stayed crunchy almost. Driving around Montana in the winter was never problematic for me. However the wet, heavy snow in Indiana coupled with the retardation of the road crews makes driving difficult and 4WD a must where I live.

Every summer when we go to visit family they're whining because it's 89* and 7% humidity. It feels perfectly great to me. Whereas back home in Indiana it's 89* and 84% humidity and you want to murder people if it'll make you cooler by bathing in their blood.


Southern Illinoisan here, and you pretty much nailed it on how northerners react to moving here.  We have people get all snooty about it, about how back at home they never close anything down.  The part they don't tell you is that the highways are cleared by an army of plows that places like here neither need nor can afford.  No really, you and I live in places that really don't get that much bad weather.  Then they go outside.  I've met Minnesotans who sneer at the way our temperatures almost never dip much below freezing, but after their first time in it they'll be every bit as bundled up as the natives.  Then they notice that there's a slick sheet of ice on the ground covered in some wet shiat we call snow instead of proper fluffy snow.

Now what I don't understand is why I get nosebleeds in winter that are every bit as bad as I would get if I was in Arizona.  It's not that dry.

I don't know about where you live, but all the  goodsnowplow drivers from my area are in Chicago right now.  Pays better.
 
2014-01-08 01:35:48 AM
I'm over by Evansville here. The county doesn't plow the rural roads out around our place, so all of the neighbors have to work together with tractors to get it done. I daresay our nearest paved road is in better driving condition than the ones the county  does get plowed.
 
2014-01-08 02:08:38 AM

MontanaDave: Yes, Montana is a horrible place and is full of sissies. Please stay away.


Just for the record I'm a bit of a sissy, but I like it cold. And I liked Montana. It's sort of my endgame 'if my life falls apart' destination

/can I crash on your couch some time?
 
2014-01-08 02:09:41 AM
I can confirm, Montana is a horrible place.

All Farkers ought best avoid. Los Angeles is a much better place for climate and environs.
 
2014-01-08 02:18:41 AM
theMightyRegeya:
Southern Illinoisan here, and you pretty much nailed it on how northerners react to moving here.  We have people get all snooty about it, about how back at home they never close anything down.  The part they don't tell you is that the highways are cleared by an army of plows that places like here neither need nor can afford.  No really, you and I live in places that really don't get that much bad weather.  Then they go outside.  I've met Minnesotans who sneer at the way our temperatures almost never dip much below freezing, but after their first time in it they'll be every bit as bundled up as the natives.  Then they notice that there's a slick sheet of ice on t ...

Consider the humidity inside the room.  Let's say that it's zero outside with a dew point of -5 F.  That gives you a relative humidity of 79%, which is quite moist and miserable.

Then you go inside.  It's 70 degrees and the water that your family and pets exhale into the atmosphere, combined with evaporation from the toilet and any cooking, raises the dew point to 15 F.  The relative humidity is 12%, which is Arizona-class (100 F, dew point 38 F).
 
2014-01-08 04:18:12 AM
Friend of mine from California called, was crying about how it was 50 degrees and he was freezing.
I live in Montana...at that time we were experiencing snow and below-zero temps.
I did not tell him to cry me a river (it would have frozen)...but I mentioned as to how 50 degrees is considered 'shirtsleeve' weather in my neck o' the woods.

I guess it all boils down to what one is acclimated...

♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪
As I sat down one evening,
was in a small café
A forty year old waitress to me
these words did say

"I see you that you are a logger
and not just a common bum
'Cause nobody but a logger
stirs his coffee with his thumb

My lover he was a logger,
there's none like him today
Well if you'd pour whiskey on it
well he'd eat a bale of hay

He never used a razor
to shave his horny hide
He'd just drive them in with a hammer
then he'd bite them off inside

My lover he came to see me
was on a freezing day
He held me in a fond embrace
that broke three vertebraes

Well he kissed me when we parted
so hard that he broke my jaw
And I could not speak to tell him
he forgot his mackinaw

I saw my lover leaving
sauntering through the snow
Well going grimly homeward
at forty eight below

Wll the weather tried to freeze him
it tried its level best
At a hundred degrees below zero
why, he buttoned up his vest

It froze clean through to China
and it froze to the stars above
And at a thousand degrees below zero
it froze my logger love

And so I lost my lover
and to this café I come
And here I wait till someone
stirs his coffee with his thumb."
♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪
 
2014-01-08 07:33:27 AM

syzygy whizz: Friend of mine from California called, was crying about how it was 50 degrees and he was freezing.
I live in Montana...at that time we were experiencing snow and below-zero temps.
I did not tell him to cry me a river (it would have frozen)...but I mentioned as to how 50 degrees is considered 'shirtsleeve' weather in my neck o' the woods.

I guess it all boils down to what one is acclimated...

♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪
As I sat down one evening,
was in a small café
A forty year old waitress to me
these words did say

"I see you that you are a logger
and not just a common bum
'Cause nobody but a logger
stirs his coffee with his thumb

My lover he was a logger,
there's none like him today
Well if you'd pour whiskey on it
well he'd eat a bale of hay

He never used a razor
to shave his horny hide
He'd just drive them in with a hammer
then he'd bite them off inside

My lover he came to see me
was on a freezing day
He held me in a fond embrace
that broke three vertebraes

Well he kissed me when we parted
so hard that he broke my jaw
And I could not speak to tell him
he forgot his mackinaw

I saw my lover leaving
sauntering through the snow
Well going grimly homeward
at forty eight below

Wll the weather tried to freeze him
it tried its level best
At a hundred degrees below zero
why, he buttoned up his vest

It froze clean through to China
and it froze to the stars above
And at a thousand degrees below zero
it froze my logger love

And so I lost my lover
and to this café I come
And here I wait till someone
stirs his coffee with his thumb."
♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-08 09:04:19 AM

dywed88: bigdog1960: When in the Air Force, outside work stopped at -40, however it was often -39.

My sister is living in Shanghai, apparently they start shutting things down due to heat at 50 degrees C. She said there were a lot of days the official high was 49 this past summer.

I remember one day when it was we got off school because it was too cold and they couldn't start most of the busses. By mid day it was a pretty good day to go out and do stuff.

This was in rural southern Ontario. So, used to cold and if busses weren't running there weren't enough students to bother holding classes.


i didn't realize shanghai was such a hot place
49c = ~120f
50c = 122f

i believe the hottest day i've experienced in my 7 summers here in texas has been about 112f
 
2014-01-08 10:07:49 AM
People constantly trying to one-up everyone with the kind of weather they experience is getting pretty damn annoying.
 
2014-01-08 04:21:19 PM

bungle_jr: dywed88: bigdog1960: When in the Air Force, outside work stopped at -40, however it was often -39.

My sister is living in Shanghai, apparently they start shutting things down due to heat at 50 degrees C. She said there were a lot of days the official high was 49 this past summer.

I remember one day when it was we got off school because it was too cold and they couldn't start most of the busses. By mid day it was a pretty good day to go out and do stuff.

This was in rural southern Ontario. So, used to cold and if busses weren't running there weren't enough students to bother holding classes.

i didn't realize shanghai was such a hot place
49c = ~120f
50c = 122f

i believe the hottest day i've experienced in my 7 summers here in texas has been about 112f


Temperatures noted include humidity. And this summer was particularly hot.

Average July-August temps are 31 degrees with 81% humidity. And lots o' smog.
 
2014-01-08 04:24:24 PM

dywed88: bungle_jr: dywed88: bigdog1960: When in the Air Force, outside work stopped at -40, however it was often -39.

My sister is living in Shanghai, apparently they start shutting things down due to heat at 50 degrees C. She said there were a lot of days the official high was 49 this past summer.

I remember one day when it was we got off school because it was too cold and they couldn't start most of the busses. By mid day it was a pretty good day to go out and do stuff.

This was in rural southern Ontario. So, used to cold and if busses weren't running there weren't enough students to bother holding classes.

i didn't realize shanghai was such a hot place
49c = ~120f
50c = 122f

i believe the hottest day i've experienced in my 7 summers here in texas has been about 112f

Temperatures noted include humidity. And this summer was particularly hot.

Average July-August temps are 31 degrees with 81% humidity. And lots o' smog.


The other point she had was always check the US consulate's air quality figures as they are pretty much always higher than the Chinese.
 
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