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(Bill Moyers)   The good news: Political polarization and gridlock in Washington DC creates wealth and stability for Americans. The bad news: The top 1% of Americans   (billmoyers.com) divider line 25
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606 clicks; posted to Politics » on 07 Jan 2014 at 6:41 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-01-07 07:24:55 PM  
2 votes:
I see a lot of grumbling over the rich in here, but not really an answer to my question, so I'll just cut to the chase-- if the 1% were to be taxed like liberals want them to be, our economy would plummet from the drain on their resources.  We all benefit from them being on top.
2014-01-07 06:15:07 PM  
2 votes:
Is the Obvious tab out taking a smoke break?
2014-01-08 09:19:55 PM  
1 votes:

tbeatty: The good news is they pay taxes so the rest don't have to.


Sure they do...almost as much as Santa Claus and the Tooth fairy combined.

i.chzbgr.com
2014-01-08 10:19:09 AM  
1 votes:
The root problem with America is that the wrong people are dying.  if the CEO's, Bankers, CONgressmen, gated community folks, etc were getting plugged, you'd see some real change in america.


no one notices some drug dealer bum on the street getting plugged.


relax, NSA.  i'm not advocating such things.   wink.   you're so jittery these days.
2014-01-08 08:26:28 AM  
1 votes:
The good news is they pay taxes so the rest don't have to.
2014-01-07 08:14:00 PM  
1 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: UberDave: And by stability, he means, "not at the gate to our circular driveway with torches and pitchforks".

They'll just hire a private army if they haven't already if people ever do go that far.

Mags, I have to wonder how effective that approach will be when it's the guards' families who are carrying the torches and pitchforks. And just how long the guards will want to hold out when hungry people with modern arms offer the guards the opportunity to live if they open the gates.

So you've never heard of foreign mercenaries before? Sure Machiavelli wasn't crazy about them but that was for defense of a nation-state/city-state and this would just be an estate.

Yeah. No. They aren't getting in the country. And they'd be cut off and sitting ducks if they did, especially in your neck of the woods. It's not like we can't find somebody who speaks their lingo well enough to tell them that they get to live if they throw open the gates. (A few well-placed rounds of .308 Win does wonders for motivation and cooperation.)

Oh but who says we're gonna have any guns?


Wait a sec, please, Mags.
I need to catch my breath.
I almost coughed out my spleen laughing.
2014-01-07 08:07:11 PM  
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: UberDave: And by stability, he means, "not at the gate to our circular driveway with torches and pitchforks".

They'll just hire a private army if they haven't already if people ever do go that far.

Mags, I have to wonder how effective that approach will be when it's the guards' families who are carrying the torches and pitchforks. And just how long the guards will want to hold out when hungry people with modern arms offer the guards the opportunity to live if they open the gates.

So you've never heard of foreign mercenaries before? Sure Machiavelli wasn't crazy about them but that was for defense of a nation-state/city-state and this would just be an estate.

Yeah. No. They aren't getting in the country. And they'd be cut off and sitting ducks if they did, especially in your neck of the woods. It's not like we can't find somebody who speaks their lingo well enough to tell them that they get to live if they throw open the gates. (A few well-placed rounds of .308 Win does wonders for motivation and cooperation.)


Oh but who says we're gonna have any guns?
2014-01-07 07:58:30 PM  
1 votes:

zeroman987: The_Man_On_The_Phone: Tomahawk513: The_Man_On_The_Phone: I see a lot of grumbling over the rich in here, but not really an answer to my question, so I'll just cut to the chase-- if the 1% were to be taxed like liberals want them to be, our economy would plummet from the drain on their resources.  We all benefit from them being on top.

Sadly, this is only the second most ridiculous post I've seen today.  You really,  really, ought to look up historical tax rates.  HINT: They were a LOT higher!

This is easily addressed. There was no competition.  Now we have China and other markets where the stakes are much higher.

You can't be real. You really can't. No one can be this stupid.


That's not a bet I'd care to take.
2014-01-07 07:49:11 PM  
1 votes:

The_Man_On_The_Phone: Tomahawk513: The_Man_On_The_Phone: I see a lot of grumbling over the rich in here, but not really an answer to my question, so I'll just cut to the chase-- if the 1% were to be taxed like liberals want them to be, our economy would plummet from the drain on their resources.  We all benefit from them being on top.

Sadly, this is only the second most ridiculous post I've seen today.  You really,  really, ought to look up historical tax rates.  HINT: They were a LOT higher!

This is easily addressed. There was no competition.  Now we have China and other markets where the stakes are much higher.


i am scratching my head trying to make sense of how easily you addressed that.
2014-01-07 07:39:14 PM  
1 votes:
Sergeant Grumbles: The_Man_On_The_Phone: I see a lot of grumbling over the rich in here, but not really an answer to my question, so I'll just cut to the chase-- DERP.

FTFY
Capital is nothing without labor. The wealthy can speculate their fortunes higher and higher, but they're not the ones moving the wheels of society, they're not the ones making, building, producing. All capital can do is grease the wheels, and from the anemic way our economy is piddling along, those wheels are screaming for it.
The only way is to get that capital moving throughout the economy, not bouncing from stock pick to stock pick or sitting in a Cayman Island account. We have to get it moving, so everyone from the bottom up gets a chance to touch that money, or we're going to see continuing stagnation. And the thing is, even after that wealth has been redistributed, it'll find its way back to the rich.

This is simply not true. They very much are the architects of modern-day society. This is why you have an iPhone, an iPad, a personal computer,  all the modern conveniences you enjoy.  You seem to think that eliminating them through high taxes is simply going to replace them with something else, when it's far more likely they are going to cut corners to save money, including leaving areas where they employ hundreds if not thousands of people.  You simply cannot "unplug" the 1% without heavy repercussions.
2014-01-07 07:34:42 PM  
1 votes:

Isitoveryet: The_Man_On_The_Phone: I see a lot of grumbling over the rich in here, but not really an answer to my question, so I'll just cut to the chase-- if the 1% were to be taxed like liberals want them to be, our economy would plummet from the drain on their resources.  We all benefit from them being on top.

King George (the 3rd) wishes he had more people like you.


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What people imagine a three percent increase on top income brackets looks like.
2014-01-07 07:29:17 PM  
1 votes:

The_Man_On_The_Phone: I see a lot of grumbling over the rich in here, but not really an answer to my question, so I'll just cut to the chase-- if the 1% were to be taxed like liberals want them to be, our economy would plummet from the drain on their resources.  We all benefit from them being on top.


King George (the 3rd) wishes he had more people like you.
2014-01-07 07:24:47 PM  
1 votes:

toadist: Well, if nothing else the last few years have shored up the 'dependents' vote.    People who need handouts are certainly getting a good deal  lately.

Next election will be more of the same,  what can I get with my vote.   More handouts, freebies, welfare, food stamps and free poor people insurance like Medicaid or OBAMACARE.   Redistribute me some wealth.


LOL!  they have refrigerators!
2014-01-07 07:21:06 PM  
1 votes:
Well, if nothing else the last few years have shored up the 'dependents' vote.    People who need handouts are certainly getting a good deal  lately.

Next election will be more of the same,  what can I get with my vote.   More handouts, freebies, welfare, food stamps and free poor people insurance like Medicaid or OBAMACARE.   Redistribute me some wealth.
2014-01-07 07:19:44 PM  
1 votes:

Debeo Summa Credo: They earn what they earn, like everyone else.


they put their pants on just like everyone else, they have their servants put'em on.
2014-01-07 07:17:52 PM  
1 votes:

The_Man_On_The_Phone: Serious question:

If the 1% gets taxed out of being the 1%, won't the economy take a dive?

Aren't they holding this place together, so to speak?


without the serfs, the king is a nobody.
2014-01-07 07:12:11 PM  
1 votes:

The_Man_On_The_Phone: Serious question:

If the 1% gets taxed out of being the 1%, won't the economy take a dive?

Aren't they holding this place together, so to speak?


I sure it does!  Dont you remember the massive economy crash when we let the Bush tax cuts expire for the 1%!  Oh wait.....
2014-01-07 07:12:09 PM  
1 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: Peki: The_Man_On_The_Phone: Serious question:

If the 1% gets taxed out of being the 1%, won't the economy take a dive?

Aren't they holding this place together, so to speak?

Popcorn, please.

/you're new here, aren't you?

Gonna need a lot of it...
[www.milehimama.com image 348x208]


Get out of my head!

/thanks for the laugh; I love that movie
2014-01-07 07:09:07 PM  
1 votes:

coyo: The_Man_On_The_Phone: Serious question:

If the 1% gets taxed out of being the 1%, won't the economy take a dive?

Aren't they holding this place together, so to speak?

Serious answer : they take disproportionately more money out of the economy than they put in. So no, they are tearing the place apart.


How do they take "disproportionately" more money? They earn what they earn, like everyone else.
2014-01-07 07:06:44 PM  
1 votes:

Peki: The_Man_On_The_Phone: Serious question:

If the 1% gets taxed out of being the 1%, won't the economy take a dive?

Aren't they holding this place together, so to speak?

Popcorn, please.

/you're new here, aren't you?


Gonna need a lot of it...
www.milehimama.com
2014-01-07 07:01:27 PM  
1 votes:

The_Man_On_The_Phone: Serious question:

If the 1% gets taxed out of being the 1%, won't the economy take a dive?

Aren't they holding this place together, so to speak?


Popcorn, please.

/you're new here, aren't you?
2014-01-07 06:59:43 PM  
1 votes:
Serious question:

If the 1% gets taxed out of being the 1%, won't the economy take a dive?

Aren't they holding this place together, so to speak?
2014-01-07 06:46:04 PM  
1 votes:

UberDave: And by stability, he means, "not at the gate to our circular driveway with torches and pitchforks".


They'll just hire a private army if they haven't already if people ever do go that far.
2014-01-07 06:21:02 PM  
1 votes:
Some douche said the same in Forbes last week.

It's all fun and games until everybody is poor and won't buy your shiat.
2014-01-07 06:07:28 PM  
1 votes:
And by stability, he means, "not at the gate to our circular driveway with torches and pitchforks".
 
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