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2014-01-07 12:01:29 AM
"It's just a statement about religious freedom," Schaeffer told the Observer. "It's a religion without any dogma."

The HELL YOU SAY! Nobody is taking away my stripper factory and beer volcano!
 
2014-01-07 12:08:53 AM
Jesus, just say you're an atheist.  No reason to go full clownshiat
 
2014-01-07 12:27:41 AM
Religion aside, I can see that photo in a high school textbook describing our gubamint, 500 years from now in our Idiocracy-like future.
 
2014-01-07 12:40:34 AM

fusillade762: "It's just a statement about religious freedom," Schaeffer told the Observer. "It's a religion without any dogma."

The HELL YOU SAY! Nobody is taking away my stripper factory and beer volcano!


I always wondered where strippers came from. Was pretty sure they didn't grow on trees, but still...
 
2014-01-07 12:46:27 AM
We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.
 
2014-01-07 01:55:11 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.


The question is: who decides which religions are made-up?
 
2014-01-07 03:02:33 AM
Pomfret, New York? Sounds like there's something fishy about that place...
 
2014-01-07 04:03:34 AM

phlegmmo: Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.

The question is: who decides which religions are made-up?


This. I've been Mormon, Wiccan, Pagan, now atheist UU. If you're gonna go for a made-up religion, at least make it a good one!

/Pastafarian definitely qualifies as a good one
//and nothing feeds the soul, quite like the church of baseball
 
2014-01-07 04:54:59 AM
i42.tinypic.com
 
2014-01-07 06:33:19 AM
These people are making a mockery of organized delusion!
 
2014-01-07 06:33:42 AM

gopher321: [i42.tinypic.com image 590x775]


This is the kind of attention hoooooooring i don't mind, though.
 
2014-01-07 06:40:46 AM
pbs.twimg.com

img.gawkerassets.com
 
2014-01-07 06:45:03 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.


So, athiests only?  Or are you really liberal and open to agnostics?

OTOH, that was quite a hipster little display of attention w***ing.
 
2014-01-07 06:48:21 AM
Ramen.
 
2014-01-07 06:49:20 AM

nekom: Jesus, just say you're an atheist.  No reason to go full clownshiat


You've yet to be touched by His Noodly Appendage.
 
2014-01-07 06:52:55 AM

phlegmmo: Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.

The question is: who decides which religions are made-up?


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2014-01-07 06:55:46 AM
I know this guy. He's really a great person. He didn't state that he was agnostic, atheist or theist. Only that he opposed the dogma of established religion. Shouldn't we all be? And what's wrong with that? Isn't this why we have separation of church and state?
 
2014-01-07 06:58:37 AM

nekom: Jesus, just say you're an atheist.  No reason to go full clownshiat


Right, because no atheist would make an ass of themselves by spouting pseudo-religious dogma. I mean I've been told again and again on here that ALL atheists believe in science and ALL atheists are hardcore rationalists and basically that ALL atheists have exactly the same values as some random white, middle-class North Americans.

/lighten up Francis
 
2014-01-07 07:02:52 AM

nekom: Jesus, just say you're an atheist.  No reason to go full clownshiat


Every man worships his own particular brand of spaghetti, my brother.
They just have different names for them.
God, Allah, Yahweh, Bodistvah, Shiva, Zeus, Odin, Rumpsplitter the Magnificent - it's all just spaghetti.
 
2014-01-07 07:04:44 AM

Voiceofreason01: nekom: Jesus, just say you're an atheist.  No reason to go full clownshiat

Right, because no atheist would make an ass of themselves by spouting pseudo-religious dogma. I mean I've been told again and again on here that ALL atheists believe in science and ALL atheists are hardcore rationalists and basically that ALL atheists have exactly the same values as some random white, middle-class North Americans.


Odd. Whye would you even listen to people like that, let alone cite them as authorities on some school of thought or other?
You must not be terribly bright.
 
2014-01-07 07:06:56 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.


They're all made up. Gods are not real.
 
2014-01-07 07:07:23 AM

jso2897: You must not be terribly bright.


That has been pointed to me on occasion
 
2014-01-07 07:10:50 AM

nekom: Jesus, just say you're an atheist.  No reason to go full clownshiat


absolutely.

as a metaphor for the idiocy of religion, the FSM is a great resource...... and that's where it should stop

if you wear a colander as a hat for your inauguration as a council member, then you are a member - in every sense of the word
 
2014-01-07 07:13:09 AM
If this guy ever makes to the WH, he already has his White House Press Secretary in place.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-07 07:16:58 AM
This story strains credulity.
 
2014-01-07 07:18:13 AM

phlegmmo: Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.

The question is: who decides which religions are made-up?



4.bp.blogspot.com

The one who is left after everything has been eaten.
 
2014-01-07 07:20:22 AM
The older I get the more I can't stand this bullshiat. Is that called maturity? There is a difference between disagreeing with religion and showing childish contempt for it. This is pretty clearly the latter. This is foolish, nothing else, you can see it on the face of the woman swearing him in "Is this what I have to farking do today? Serve this moron?" I legitimately think this shows contempt for the courts as well, and as such he shouldn't be sworn in.

"Some people will see it as obnoxious or a sign that he's not taking the oath of office seriously,"
Yup, pretty much.

And as for religion without dogma? I find pastafarians dogmatically moronic. Try to have one serious, adult, informed conversation about, say, hinduism, or sikhism with an avowed pastafarian. Try. They are just athiests who instead of being passive or militant or flighty went full retard.
 
2014-01-07 07:21:10 AM
What a jackass.
 
2014-01-07 07:23:58 AM
I'm kind of disappointed he wasn't in full pirate regalia. He's a Pastafarian minister, right?
 
2014-01-07 07:24:17 AM

Mad Scientist: nekom: Jesus, just say you're an atheist.  No reason to go full clownshiat

You've yet to be touched by His Noodly Appendage.



Yeah, no thanks. I'll have my lawyer on his noodle so fast his meatballs will be pounded in federal prison by sunrise.
 
2014-01-07 07:26:18 AM

jso2897: Rumpsplitter the Magnificent


Which porn parody of a fantasy movie is that character name from?
 
2014-01-07 07:27:27 AM

phlegmmo: Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.

The question is: who decides which religions are made-up?


Aren't they all?
 
2014-01-07 07:29:22 AM

Woohoo_02: The older I get the more I can't stand this bullshiat. Is that called maturity? There is a difference between disagreeing with religion and showing childish contempt for it. This is pretty clearly the latter. This is foolish, nothing else, you can see it on the face of the woman swearing him in "Is this what I have to farking do today? Serve this moron?" I legitimately think this shows contempt for the courts as well, and as such he shouldn't be sworn in.

"Some people will see it as obnoxious or a sign that he's not taking the oath of office seriously,"
Yup, pretty much.

And as for religion without dogma? I find pastafarians dogmatically moronic. Try to have one serious, adult, informed conversation about, say, hinduism, or sikhism with an avowed pastafarian. Try. They are just athiests who instead of being passive or militant or flighty went full retard.


You think worshipping pasta is odd? Look at the Christians. They wear ancient execution devices around their necks to worship an imaginary guy who was executed per Roman law related to brigandage, highway robbery and treason. That shows a distinct lack of maturity and sanity.
 
2014-01-07 07:37:25 AM

nekom: Jesus, just say you're an atheist.  No reason to go full clownshiat


I guess he wanted to attention whore it up a bit.
 
2014-01-07 07:37:35 AM
So farking stupid.
I bet this guy spends a lot of time writing un-funny reviews on Amazon and thinks he's hilarious.
 
2014-01-07 07:38:10 AM
You're not helping.

Ramen.
 
2014-01-07 07:51:54 AM

Woohoo_02: Yeah, no thanks. I'll have my lawyer on his noodle so fast his meatballs will be pounded in federal prison by sunrise.


Threats over your objections to his made up religion? Isn't that a biatchildish?
 
2014-01-07 07:54:04 AM

rebelyell2006: You think worshipping pasta is odd? Look at the Christians. They wear ancient execution devices around their necks to worship an imaginary guy who was executed per Roman law related to brigandage, highway robbery and treason. That shows a distinct lack of maturity and sanity.


Oh look, an uniformed fool.  How delightfully unoriginal.
I bet you think sports aren't scripted, and your video games are good.
You're wrong a lot.
 
2014-01-07 07:58:43 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.


I'm okay with this, since that nukes each and every mega-church preaching the Prosperity Gospel.
 
2014-01-07 08:01:44 AM

UNC_Samurai: Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.

I'm okay with this, since that nukes each and every mega-church preaching the Prosperity Gospel.


the megachurches have been really ramping up the 'christians are persecuted' talk again lately.  I get a sense that they're building up to a big easter show this year.  maybe this is their lead in for the 2014 congressional mid term elections?
 
2014-01-07 08:02:56 AM
In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.
 
2014-01-07 08:08:40 AM

ds615: rebelyell2006: You think worshipping pasta is odd? Look at the Christians. They wear ancient execution devices around their necks to worship an imaginary guy who was executed per Roman law related to brigandage, highway robbery and treason. That shows a distinct lack of maturity and sanity.

Oh look, an uniformed fool.  How delightfully unoriginal.
I bet you think sports aren't scripted, and your video games are good.
You're wrong a lot.


Uniformed? I am not a soldier. Unless you think I am uninformed since I do not blindly accept your religious fairy tales as fact. And crucifixion was the punishment for crimes against the state, such as treason and brigandage.
 
2014-01-07 08:10:48 AM

Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.


Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.
 
2014-01-07 08:14:27 AM
Woohoo_02: "Some people will see it as obnoxious or a sign that he's not taking the oath of office seriously,"
Yup, pretty much.


because this is just as bad as, if not worse than the multitude of theocrats we have in office
 
2014-01-07 08:17:20 AM

DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.


Only by those people with whom the satire hit's a nerve, as if their core belief might, just might, be total BS after all.
 
2014-01-07 08:21:30 AM

Smoking GNU: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

Only by those people with whom the satire hit's a nerve, as if their core belief might, just might, be total BS after all.


What's BS about faith?  It's a good thing for the individual.
 
2014-01-07 08:21:45 AM

DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.


I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today
 
2014-01-07 08:24:04 AM

MisterTweak: fusillade762: "It's just a statement about religious freedom," Schaeffer told the Observer. "It's a religion without any dogma."

The HELL YOU SAY! Nobody is taking away my stripper factory and beer volcano!

I always wondered where strippers came from.



Mostly from dance recitals daddy was too busy to make it to.
 
2014-01-07 08:24:16 AM

Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today


A cult becomes a religion after three generations of devout and successful followers.
 
2014-01-07 08:28:12 AM
Someone didn't get enough attention from mommy and daddy as a child, I suspect.
 
mhd
2014-01-07 08:31:10 AM
Couldn't he just wear the black robes of his D&D coven?
 
2014-01-07 08:32:29 AM

RedZoneTuba: This story strains credulity.


Ah, at last a pun that not only fits the situation without being twisted out of shape, but a pun that is humorous! I salute you, sir.
 
2014-01-07 08:34:34 AM

phlegmmo: Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.

The question is: who decides which religions are made-up?


Silly question.  They're all made up.
 
2014-01-07 08:35:06 AM

DubtodaIll: Smoking GNU: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

Only by those people with whom the satire hit's a nerve, as if their core belief might, just might, be total BS after all.

What's BS about faith?  It's a good thing for the individual.


static.neatorama.com

u-huh
 
2014-01-07 08:35:13 AM
A white colander?  After labor day?  Tasteless.
 
2014-01-07 08:36:05 AM

DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today

A cult becomes a religion after three generations of devout and successful followers.


Alright, so the Olympians and Mormons are in. Does Scientology count yet? Never mind, it will some day. That makes for some truly weird stuff.
 
2014-01-07 08:37:43 AM

Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today


No, for farks sake... he means it's more disrespectful and stupid to openly pull some dumb shiat for laughs than it is to just be deluded. And this was a grown man doing something he knew was just stupid and absurd to try to make a point. It's the difference between a monkey flinging poo and a sane, lucid adult shiatting in his hand and throwing it. Neither of them should be doing it in polite company, but at least one of them knows better.
 
2014-01-07 08:41:02 AM

Mentalpatient87: Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today

No, for farks sake... he means it's more disrespectful and stupid to openly pull some dumb shiat for laughs than it is to just be deluded. And this was a grown man doing something he knew was just stupid and absurd to try to make a point. It's the difference between a monkey flinging poo and a sane, lucid adult shiatting in his hand and throwing it. Neither of them should be doing it in polite company, but at least one of them knows better.


How do you know he isn't a true believer? After all, if people could believe in Christianity or Scientology they could believe anything.
 
2014-01-07 08:41:13 AM

Woohoo_02: The older I get the more I can't stand this bullshiat. Is that called maturity? There is a difference between disagreeing with religion and showing childish contempt for it. This is pretty clearly the latter. This is foolish, nothing else, you can see it on the face of the woman swearing him in "Is this what I have to farking do today? Serve this moron?" I legitimately think this shows contempt for the courts as well, and as such he shouldn't be sworn in.


The purpose of satire is to make you think.  Did you ever wonder if its appropriate to have a religious ritual in order to participate in government?  To pastafarians and many atheists, watching politicians swear on a bible is just as ridiculous and offensive as believers watching a man get sworn in while wearing a colander.

Maybe its time to take the religious symbolism out of government?
 
2014-01-07 08:44:40 AM

czei: Woohoo_02: The older I get the more I can't stand this bullshiat. Is that called maturity? There is a difference between disagreeing with religion and showing childish contempt for it. This is pretty clearly the latter. This is foolish, nothing else, you can see it on the face of the woman swearing him in "Is this what I have to farking do today? Serve this moron?" I legitimately think this shows contempt for the courts as well, and as such he shouldn't be sworn in.

The purpose of satire is to make you think.  Did you ever wonder if its appropriate to have a religious ritual in order to participate in government?  To pastafarians and many atheists, watching politicians swear on a bible is just as ridiculous and offensive as believers watching a man get sworn in while wearing a colander.

Maybe its time to take the religious symbolism out of government?


yeah, it makes me think that this dude is a freaking tool, that's what it makes me think....this is 'intelligent atheism'?  wearing a colander on your head while getting sworn into office?

yah.  good luck with that.  the christians are laughing at you, and rightly so.
 
2014-01-07 08:44:46 AM

Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today

A cult becomes a religion after three generations of devout and successful followers.

Alright, so the Olympians and Mormons are in. Does Scientology count yet? Never mind, it will some day. That makes for some truly weird stuff.


Do Olympians still have successful followers?  Being able to generate enough wealth to create large public works is one of the hallmarks of an actual religion.  Pretty much if you can build a church (for lack of a better word) that is impressive to non-believers, you've got yourself a religion.
 
2014-01-07 08:46:12 AM

Woohoo_02: The older I get the more I can't stand this bullshiat. Is that called maturity?


Is it maturity when city council members put up statues showing the Ten Commandments in front of court houses or say Christian prayers before council meetings or (lets not forget how FLM got started) board of education members set requirements that creationism be taught as part of science curriculum in public schools? Does that not show contempt for the courts and (at the very least) a complete misunderstanding of the principals this country was founded on?
 
2014-01-07 08:46:39 AM
DubtodaIll:

Do Olympians still have successful followers?  Being able to generate enough wealth to create large public works is one of the hallmarks of an actual religion.  Pretty much if you can build a church (for lack of a better word) that is impressive to non-believers, you've got yourself a religion.

Considering most new churches are built in strip malls these days, it must mean Christianity is on the way out.
 
2014-01-07 08:46:49 AM

czei: Maybe its time to take the religious symbolism out of government?


Which, coincidentally, is the primary raison-d'être of Pastafarianism. Separation of Church and State through religious satire. It's not the office he's not taking seriously (although city council? How seriously does anybody take that anyway?), it religion. I personally find that _very_ reassuring.
 
2014-01-07 08:47:15 AM

Smoking GNU: DubtodaIll: Smoking GNU: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

Only by those people with whom the satire hit's a nerve, as if their core belief might, just might, be total BS after all.

What's BS about faith?  It's a good thing for the individual.

[static.neatorama.com image 440x570]

u-huh


That, my friend, is Irony.

I'll just repost this from Reddit:

There's always a danger in trying to be ironic in politics or submitting that irony without preparatory explanation...: The woman is actually protesting for gay rights, and probably more specifically for gay marriage.

First, notice that she's holding a rainbow flag. Second, notice the stickers and pins that say "I agree with the SJC", the SJC being the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts which found in favor of gay marriage.

So, the comment about Alan Turing is intended to be ironic in the sense that Turing made enormous contributions to fighting Nazism and by extension computing. Most certainly over the heads of most members of the Religious Wrong and apparently over the heads of some Redditers, too...
 
2014-01-07 08:50:09 AM

Weaver95: this is 'intelligent atheism'?


No, 'Pastafarianism'
 
2014-01-07 08:52:04 AM

DubtodaIll: Do Olympians still have successful followers?  Being able to generate enough wealth to create large public works is one of the hallmarks of an actual religion.  Pretty much if you can build a church (for lack of a better word) that is impressive to non-believers, you've got yourself a religion.


Then Christianity wasn't a religion for the first couple of centuries.
 
2014-01-07 08:53:41 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.


So you're an anarchist then.
 
2014-01-07 08:55:45 AM
I'm not going to talk about any red herring "BUT CHRISTIANS DO THIS" fallacy because, lo and behold, this isn't an article about them. The only reason you can make fun of Christians or Jews or Muslims is most of them take it in stride, constantly turning the conversation around to them is irrelevant. It is like how every conversation in politics comes down to "But someone else..."

It sounds like a child saying "I hit my younger brother because he pinched me. So it is okay." or "My sister called me stupid so I called her a coont."

Making relativistic arguments involving cherry picked cases ISN'T critical thought and ISN'T Reasoning.

IT IS MAGICAL THINKING.Which is EXACTLY what the argument is about and what they say they dislike.
And no, that is not the joke. Smashing an egg on your face and saying "You have egg on your face" isn't a joke. It's moronic. That is why no one is really laughing.
 
2014-01-07 08:57:54 AM

Voiceofreason01: Woohoo_02: The older I get the more I can't stand this bullshiat. Is that called maturity?

Is it maturity when city council members put up statues showing the Ten Commandments in front of court houses or say Christian prayers before council meetings or (lets not forget how FLM got started) board of education members set requirements that creationism be taught as part of science curriculum in public schools? Does that not show contempt for the courts and (at the very least) a complete misunderstanding of the principals this country was founded on?


I would say so. But to say that raising false idols of the ten commandments is Christian is a bit of a misnomer. It has more to do with American culture than Christian culture in my opinion.
 
2014-01-07 08:58:01 AM

Woohoo_02: this isn't an article about them.


Better than examining your own beliefs, or the behavior of those who try to pass oppressive law in your religion's name. Convenient, that.

/ Get off your high horse, already. You are not being persecuted.
 
2014-01-07 08:58:09 AM

Woohoo_02: I'm not going to talk about any red herring "BUT CHRISTIANS DO THIS" fallacy because, lo and behold, this isn't an article about them. The only reason you can make fun of Christians or Jews or Muslims is most of them take it in stride, constantly turning the conversation around to them is irrelevant. It is like how every conversation in politics comes down to "But someone else..."

It sounds like a child saying "I hit my younger brother because he pinched me. So it is okay." or "My sister called me stupid so I called her a coont."

Making relativistic arguments involving cherry picked cases ISN'T critical thought and ISN'T Reasoning.

IT IS MAGICAL THINKING.Which is EXACTLY what the argument is about and what they say they dislike.
And no, that is not the joke. Smashing an egg on your face and saying "You have egg on your face" isn't a joke. It's moronic. That is why no one is really laughing.


We get it, you're a Christian and you don't like it when other religions claim to be as real as yours.
 
2014-01-07 09:02:53 AM

rebelyell2006: Mentalpatient87: Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today

No, for farks sake... he means it's more disrespectful and stupid to openly pull some dumb shiat for laughs than it is to just be deluded. And this was a grown man doing something he knew was just stupid and absurd to try to make a point. It's the difference between a monkey flinging poo and a sane, lucid adult shiatting in his hand and throwing it. Neither of them should be doing it in polite company, but at least one of them knows better.

How do you know he isn't a true believer? After all, if people could believe in Christianity or Scientology they could believe anything.


Just stop already. I got the point long before you kept repeating it. Religion is silly, I agree with that. You and I both know that this grown man doesn't believe in a spaghetti creature, it's not a huge leap to make. The point has been made, but I'll be damned if the "hurr, FSM" crowd isn't driving the joke so deep into the ground it pops out in China.

Just stop throwing shiat, that's all I'm asking. It's gross and unproductive.
 
2014-01-07 09:05:42 AM
I'm not sure how wearing a kitchen item on your head while getting sworn in is any more ridiculous than the pretend cannibalism ritual Catholics engage in, magic Mormon undies, or just generally believing that an invisible man lives in the sky and grants wishes. It's all kind of silly behavior. The difference is that I don't think anyone's been killed in the name of Pastafarianism.

Advantage: FSM
 
2014-01-07 09:07:11 AM

Mentalpatient87: rebelyell2006: Mentalpatient87: Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today

No, for farks sake... he means it's more disrespectful and stupid to openly pull some dumb shiat for laughs than it is to just be deluded. And this was a grown man doing something he knew was just stupid and absurd to try to make a point. It's the difference between a monkey flinging poo and a sane, lucid adult shiatting in his hand and throwing it. Neither of them should be doing it in polite company, but at least one of them knows better.

How do you know he isn't a true believer? After all, if people could believe in Christianity or Scientology they could believe anything.

Just stop already. I got the point long before you kept repeating it. Religion is silly, I agree with that. You and I both know that this grown man doesn't believe in a spaghetti creature, it's not a huge leap to make. The point has been made, but I'll be damned if the "hurr, FSM" crowd isn't driving the joke so deep into the ground it pops out in China.

Just stop throwing shiat, that's all I'm asking. It's gross and unproductive.


If you were older, I'm sure you would say the same thing about those fake upstarts Scientology and Mormonism. Hubbard and Smith didn't believe their bullshiat but their followers today definitely do believe it.
 
2014-01-07 09:07:19 AM

Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Do Olympians still have successful followers?  Being able to generate enough wealth to create large public works is one of the hallmarks of an actual religion.  Pretty much if you can build a church (for lack of a better word) that is impressive to non-believers, you've got yourself a religion.

Then Christianity wasn't a religion for the first couple of centuries.


Exactly, but it certainly is now.
 
2014-01-07 09:08:18 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm not sure how wearing a kitchen item on your head while getting sworn in is any more ridiculous than the pretend cannibalism ritual Catholics engage in, magic Mormon undies, or just generally believing that an invisible man lives in the sky and grants wishes. It's all kind of silly behavior. The difference is that I don't think anyone's been killed in the name of Pastafarianism.

Advantage: FSM


Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

/define: circle jerk
 
2014-01-07 09:11:27 AM

Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...


Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?
 
2014-01-07 09:13:09 AM

Woohoo_02: The only reason you can make fun of Christians or Jews or Muslims is most of them take it in stride


Citation needed.
 
2014-01-07 09:13:38 AM

Epicedion: DubtodaIll:

Do Olympians still have successful followers?  Being able to generate enough wealth to create large public works is one of the hallmarks of an actual religion.  Pretty much if you can build a church (for lack of a better word) that is impressive to non-believers, you've got yourself a religion.

Considering most new churches are built in strip malls these days, it must mean Christianity is on the way out.


It's certainly an indicator of waning support but there are still plenty of incredibly impressive churches in the world.  However, even some of the beautiful cathedrals in Europe have become more tourist attractions than houses of worship.
 
2014-01-07 09:14:08 AM
So the guy's stylistically challenged. As his political life progresses, he accumulate a few more. People will probably give him colanders for Christmas instead of ties.

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.commindful-shopper.com
 
2014-01-07 09:15:43 AM

Woohoo_02: I would say so. But to say that raising false idols of the ten commandments is Christian is a bit of a misnomer. It has more to do with American culture than Christian culture in my opinion.


Well, as long as you're as you're white and Protestant*

*just like and Real AmericanTM
 
2014-01-07 09:16:24 AM

rebelyell2006: Mentalpatient87: rebelyell2006: Mentalpatient87: Ilmarinen: DubtodaIll: Ilmarinen: In what way is Pastafarianism more weird or disrespectful than, say, Mormonism or Catholicism? Because I seriously don't see it.

Because satire is always more disrespectful than the genuine article.

I'm curious what you mean by "the genuine article". So it includes Mormonism, does it also include Scientology, Wicca, or the Greek gods?

/the last ones still have genuine worshippers today

No, for farks sake... he means it's more disrespectful and stupid to openly pull some dumb shiat for laughs than it is to just be deluded. And this was a grown man doing something he knew was just stupid and absurd to try to make a point. It's the difference between a monkey flinging poo and a sane, lucid adult shiatting in his hand and throwing it. Neither of them should be doing it in polite company, but at least one of them knows better.

How do you know he isn't a true believer? After all, if people could believe in Christianity or Scientology they could believe anything.

Just stop already. I got the point long before you kept repeating it. Religion is silly, I agree with that. You and I both know that this grown man doesn't believe in a spaghetti creature, it's not a huge leap to make. The point has been made, but I'll be damned if the "hurr, FSM" crowd isn't driving the joke so deep into the ground it pops out in China.

Just stop throwing shiat, that's all I'm asking. It's gross and unproductive.

If you were older, I'm sure you would say the same thing about those fake upstarts Scientology and Mormonism. Hubbard and Smith didn't believe their bullshiat but their followers today definitely do believe it.


Dude, you're doing it AGAIN! Holy fark, how many times do I have to say I AGREE? You're not saying anything new, you're just parroting the basic premise of the FSM thing over and over. I'm trying to point out that you're being annoying and not getting anywhere, but you're refusing to even budge from the first thing you said. We're not getting anywhere as long as you keep repeating yourself.
 
2014-01-07 09:19:41 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?


But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.
 
2014-01-07 09:21:53 AM

Woohoo_02: The older I get the more I can't stand this bullshiat. Is that called maturity? There is a difference between disagreeing with religion and showing childish contempt for it. This is pretty clearly the latter. This is foolish, nothing else, you can see it on the face of the woman swearing him in "Is this what I have to farking do today? Serve this moron?" I legitimately think this shows contempt for the courts as well, and as such he shouldn't be sworn in.


A couple of decades ago in the alt.religion.scientology newsgroup, someone put this more eloquently than I could, so enjoy some delicious copypasta with your pastafarianism:

Stephen Jones' "Clown Car of Ridicule"

Ridicule can't be beat when it comes to kicking the bejeezus out of an oppressive, idiotic or just plain thoughtless belief/system, regardless if that belief is political, social, or spiritual. Besides, it can be fun, unless the ridicule is directed towards the spiritual in which case it is taboo and very bad manners so please don't do it. ;)

A walk down the path of history is crunchy with the crispy corpses of those who pooh-poohed or ignored the clown car of ridicule when it pulled-up to the curb. Who would have thought such a tiny car could contain so many infectious and revolutionary guffaws? Satires, parodies, blue humor, pants to the ground ass-wavings, tea-dumping, Modest Proposal submiting, seven dirty word spewing, flag burning, frankly impolite, just plain rude and improper expressions of ridicule have either ignited reform, fanned the flames or kicked the corpse to make sure it was dead.
 
2014-01-07 09:23:36 AM

Mentalpatient87: But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to?


Have you considered praying to be touched by His Noodly Appendage? It probably has divine healing powers.
 
2014-01-07 09:26:05 AM
Let me guess: This guy still subscribes to MAD magazine and placed his hand on a copy for the swearing in.
 
2014-01-07 09:26:21 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to?

Have you considered praying to be touched by His Noodly Appendage? It probably has divine healing powers.


I hear that it can turn water into the highest quality microbrew
 
2014-01-07 09:44:38 AM
All y'all haters can suck it, it was funny.

And for "adult, rational conversation?"  Here's a thinker for ya: how do you know,  know beyond a doubt, that he doesn't truly believe?  What makes his act of faith less believable, less moral, and less legitimate than another's?  If "faith is good because it helps the faithful," why is what he did, which helps him in some way or other, bad?

Even if he's just being sarcastic, isn't that sarcasm legitimate?  Or is it only okay to tell yourself and others that you're more special and blessed if you use a god on the accepted list?
 
2014-01-07 09:47:01 AM
Whatever point you are trying to make, if you show up at a public event with a colander on your head, you should be ready for people to respond like you have a colander on your head. If you think someone wearing a colander on his head is clever or profound, likewise be prepared for people to respond to you as someone who finds a colander on one's head clever or profound.
 
2014-01-07 09:52:39 AM
LOL THIS GUY IS SO HILARIOUS! FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!! YOU GET IT? BECAUSE IT'S SILLY AND IT MAKES FUN OF RELIGION!

People who push the flying spaghetti monster crap are even more obnoxious than people who push religion, and I say that as an atheist
 
2014-01-07 09:53:51 AM

Nabb1: Whatever point you are trying to make, if you show up at a public event with a colander on your head, you should be ready for people to respond like you have a colander on your head. If you think someone wearing a colander on his head is clever or profound, likewise be prepared for people to respond to you as someone who finds a colander on one's head clever or profound.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2014-01-07 10:06:57 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to?

Have you considered praying to be touched by His Noodly Appendage? It probably has divine healing powers.


Gah, stop proselytizing at me! You religious nutters are all the same.
 
2014-01-07 10:11:26 AM

Epicedion: Nabb1: Whatever point you are trying to make, if you show up at a public event with a colander on your head, you should be ready for people to respond like you have a colander on your head. If you think someone wearing a colander on his head is clever or profound, likewise be prepared for people to respond to you as someone who finds a colander on one's head clever or profound.


But that's different because Jesus reasons.
 
2014-01-07 10:23:48 AM

Nabb1: Whatever point you are trying to make, if you show up at a public event with a colander on your head, you should be ready for people to respond like you have a colander on your head. If you think someone wearing a colander on his head is clever or profound, likewise be prepared for people to respond to you as someone who finds a colander on one's head clever or profound.


I don't think he ever said he was being clever or profound. Just funny.
 
2014-01-07 10:26:42 AM

Epicedion: Nabb1: Whatever point you are trying to make, if you show up at a public event with a colander on your head, you should be ready for people to respond like you have a colander on your head. If you think someone wearing a colander on his head is clever or profound, likewise be prepared for people to respond to you as someone who finds a colander on one's head clever or profound.

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A GIS for "gourmet french fries" produced this:

secure-assets.grouponcdn.com
which does indeed resemble
www.jesus-is-savior.com
 
2014-01-07 10:27:04 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Whatever point you are trying to make, if you show up at a public event with a colander on your head, you should be ready for people to respond like you have a colander on your head. If you think someone wearing a colander on his head is clever or profound, likewise be prepared for people to respond to you as someone who finds a colander on one's head clever or profound.

I don't think he ever said he was being clever or profound. Just funny.


Well then shouldn't we be burning him at the stake as an attention whore? I'm finding it tough to keep track of where the mob is thrashing these days...
 
2014-01-07 10:28:18 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Whatever point you are trying to make, if you show up at a public event with a colander on your head, you should be ready for people to respond like you have a colander on your head. If you think someone wearing a colander on his head is clever or profound, likewise be prepared for people to respond to you as someone who finds a colander on one's head clever or profound.

I don't think he ever said he was being clever or profound. Just funny.


I think it was funnier when it was still original.
 
2014-01-07 10:31:10 AM
No dogma?
Yet he wore a colander.
 
2014-01-07 10:39:32 AM
Ugh.  Of all the idiotic shiat that happens in this town, THIS is what makes Fark?  Idiot protests religion in government by showing his faith in his religion?  During his swearing in?

What a moron.
 
mhd
2014-01-07 10:40:00 AM

Lee451: Let me guess: This guy still subscribes to MAD magazine and placed his hand on a copy for the swearing in.


Why risk swearing on the wrong holy book? This one satisfies a whole number of religions

i.imgur.com

/Salvation not guaranteed. Contents may vary by edition.
 
2014-01-07 10:40:26 AM
Really all this thread is doing is making me want pasta for lunch...
 
2014-01-07 10:44:55 AM

Dr Jack Badofsky: Ugh.  Of all the idiotic shiat that happens in this town, THIS is what makes Fark?  Idiot protests religion in government by showing his faith in his religion?  During his swearing in?

What a moron.


They guy acted like a dork in an attempt to get attention. He succeeded. We are fulfilling his dream of attention for being a dork. We like articles about people acting like dorks.
 
2014-01-07 11:16:36 AM

Mentalpatient87: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?

But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.


So... "stop making jokes I don't like"?

Just so I get things straight, and I have already read that you are an atheist, you think the only good atheists are the serious ones who are quiet and non-confrontational about their non-faith, who don't make waves, who don't make fun of any religion, who hide in the shadows?

You sound a lot like the gay guys in the 50s 60s and 70s who were mad at activists who insisted in being gay and flamboyant in the public eye. Saying that they would be left alone if they were only quiet about their gayness.
 
2014-01-07 11:22:01 AM

ReverendJimBobHammer: Mentalpatient87: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?

But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.

So... "stop making jokes I don't like"?

Just so I get things straight, and I have already read that you are an atheist, you think the only good atheists are the serious ones who are quiet and non-confrontational about their non-faith, who don't make waves, who don't make fun of any religion, who hide in the shadows?

You sound a lot like the gay guys in the 50s 60s and 70s who were mad at activists who insisted in being gay and flamboyant in the public eye. Saying that they would be left alone if they were only quiet about their gayness.


You are comparing being an atheist in this day and age to being gay in the mid-20th century? You may want to dial back that persecution complex, chief.
 
2014-01-07 11:25:37 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: The difference is that I don't think anyone's been killed in the name of Pastafarianism.


Is it even possible to choke to death on pasta?
 
2014-01-07 11:26:00 AM
No, now you've just gone to the opposite extreme and assumed I believe that. You should really stop trying to fill in the blanks for my whole belief system based on how not funny I find one joke. (After that joke has been run into the dirt)
 
2014-01-07 11:33:16 AM
images.wikia.com


/I want to believe.
 
2014-01-07 11:33:36 AM
Attention whoring to bring attention to a cause is called protest.
 
2014-01-07 11:38:52 AM

Nabb1: ReverendJimBobHammer: Mentalpatient87: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?

But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.

So... "stop making jokes I don't like"?

Just so I get things straight, and I have already read that you are an atheist, you think the only good atheists are the serious ones who are quiet and non-confrontational about their non-faith, who don't make waves, who don't make fun of any religion, who hide in the shadows?

You sound a lot like the gay guys in the 50s 60s and 70s who were mad at activists who insisted in being gay and flamboyant in the public eye. Saying that they would be left alone if they were only quiet about their gayness.

You are comparing being an atheist in this day and age to being gay in the mid-20th century? You may want to dial back that persecution complex, chief.


Not the persecution, you'll notice I didn't mention persecution at all , just the whole keep quiet and don't poke fun at the squares idea. mentalpatient seems very butt hurt by a joke he doesn't like. Just get over it and ignore the jokes you don't like. If I spent as much time as he has railing against this joke on every comedian I didn't like I'd never get any sleep.
 
2014-01-07 11:41:19 AM
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-07 11:43:40 AM

ReverendJimBobHammer: Nabb1: ReverendJimBobHammer: Mentalpatient87: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?

But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.

So... "stop making jokes I don't like"?

Just so I get things straight, and I have already read that you are an atheist, you think the only good atheists are the serious ones who are quiet and non-confrontational about their non-faith, who don't make waves, who don't make fun of any religion, who hide in the shadows?

You sound a lot like the gay guys in the 50s 60s and 70s who were mad at activists who insisted in being gay and flamboyant in the public eye. Saying that they would be left alone if they were only quiet about their gayness.

You are comparing being an atheist in this day and age to being gay in the mid-20th century? You may want to dial back that persecution complex, chief.

Not the persecution, you'll notice I didn't mention persecution at all , just the whole keep quiet and don't poke fun at the squares idea. mentalpatient seems very butt hurt by a joke he doesn't like. Just get over it and ignore the jokes you don't like. If I spent as much time as he has railing against this joke on every comedian I didn't like I'd never get any sleep.


So, you want him to keep his opinion on this public display to himself because as an atheist, he should sit by quietly when another atheist makes an ass of himself?
 
2014-01-07 11:43:50 AM
if he's going to take his oath of office while wearing his religious headgear then he should also have to wear his religious headgear in his driver's license photo, during all events he attends in his official capacity where there may be photo ops, during all official proceedings, etc.
 
2014-01-07 11:49:53 AM
What we need is a colander the size of a yarmulke.
 
2014-01-07 12:04:12 PM

Nabb1: ReverendJimBobHammer: Nabb1: ReverendJimBobHammer: Mentalpatient87: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?

But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.

So... "stop making jokes I don't like"?

Just so I get things straight, and I have already read that you are an atheist, you think the only good atheists are the serious ones who are quiet and non-confrontational about their non-faith, who don't make waves, who don't make fun of any religion, who hide in the shadows?

You sound a lot like the gay guys in the 50s 60s and 70s who were mad at activists who insisted in being gay and flamboyant in the public eye. Saying that they would be left alone if they were only quiet about their gayness.

You are comparing being an atheist in this day and age to being gay in the mid-20th century? You may want to dial back that persecution complex, chief.

Not the persecution, you'll notice I didn't mention persecution at all , just the whole keep quiet and don't poke fun at the squares idea. mentalpatient seems very butt hurt by a joke he doesn't like. Just get over it and ignore the jokes you don't like. If I spent as much time as he has railing against this joke on every comedian I didn't like I'd never get any sleep.

So, you want him to keep his opinion on this public display to himself because as an atheist, he should sit by quietly when another atheist makes an ass of himself?


I wouldn't have said anything if he had said it once or twice but he has turned this "FSM isn't funny shut up about it" into a mini-crusade in this thread. We get it, you don't think it's funny, you've made your point. Get over it and go be an atheist the way you want to be an atheist. Let others be atheists the way they want to. Maybe you'll do some good being an atheist your way, maybe they'll do some good being an atheist their way. But by constantly whining about the FSM guys being attention whores mentalpatient is being just as much of an attention whore.

Now I've said enough on it. If I continue posting I'll become an attention whore about a guy who became an attention whore about guys he thinks are attention whores and the whole world will implode.
 
2014-01-07 12:09:33 PM
All I did was post a couple times, jeez.. Quit your butthurt mini-crusade against me. You're ruining the thread.
 
2014-01-07 12:17:43 PM
The town just swore another member in.  He was NOT wearing any headgear.
 
2014-01-07 01:00:48 PM

Mentalpatient87: All I did was post a couple times, jeez.. Quit your butthurt mini-crusade against me. You're ruining the thread.


There are currently 117 posts in this thread.

10 of them are from you

That means that out of all of the posts, 8.547008547008547 % of them are yours.

Of those, 0 were funny.

That is all.
 
2014-01-07 01:01:27 PM

Nabb1: ReverendJimBobHammer: Mentalpatient87: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?

But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.

So... "stop making jokes I don't like"?

Just so I get things straight, and I have already read that you are an atheist, you think the only good atheists are the serious ones who are quiet and non-confrontational about their non-faith, who don't make waves, who don't make fun of any religion, who hide in the shadows?

You sound a lot like the gay guys in the 50s 60s and 70s who were mad at activists who insisted in being gay and flamboyant in the public eye. Saying that they would be left alone if they were only quiet about their gayness.

You are comparing being an atheist in this day and age to being gay in the mid-20th century? You may want to dial back that persecution complex, chief.


There are some places here in the U.S. where it's probably safer to come out as gay than as an atheist. Sure, the persecution on the whole is nowhere near comparable, but to say "you didn't suffer as much as that other guy, so shut up about it" is just ignorant.
 
2014-01-07 02:36:19 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: There are some places here in the U.S. where it's probably safer to come out as gay than as an atheist. Sure, the persecution on the whole is nowhere near comparable, but to say "you didn't suffer as much as that other guy, so shut up about it" is just ignorant.


"In a closet, you can't see what color the walls are; you just know what it feels like to live in a closet. So really, my closet is no different than yours... or yours... or yours. Sure, I can give you a hundred reasons why coming out of my closet was harder than coming out of yours. But here's the thing: hard is not relative. Hard is... hard. Who can tell me that explaining to someone you've just declared bankruptcy is harder than telling someone you've just cheated on them? Who can tell me that his coming out story is harder than telling your five year old child [that] you're getting a divorce? There is no harder, there is just... hard.

We need to stop ranking our hard with everybody else's hard to feel better or worse about our closets and just commiserate with the fact that we all have... hard. At some point in our lives we all live in closets. They may feel safe, or at least safer than what lies on the other side of that door. But I am here to tell you that a closet is no place for a person to live." - Ash Beckham.

What gay people faced, and continue to face, is hard. What atheists faced, and continue to face, is hard. What either group face is not, and has never been, fair.

/  This guy can wear a colander whenever and wherever he wants to. He's not hurting anyone by doing it.
 
2014-01-07 02:58:48 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: Nabb1: ReverendJimBobHammer: Mentalpatient87: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?

But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.

So... "stop making jokes I don't like"?

Just so I get things straight, and I have already read that you are an atheist, you think the only good atheists are the serious ones who are quiet and non-confrontational about their non-faith, who don't make waves, who don't make fun of any religion, who hide in the shadows?

You sound a lot like the gay guys in the 50s 60s and 70s who were mad at activists who insisted in being gay and flamboyant in the public eye. Saying that they would be left alone if they were only quiet about their gayness.

You are comparing being an atheist in this day and age to being gay in the mid-20th century? You may want to dial back that persecution complex, chief.

There are some places here in the U.S. where it's probably safer to come out as gay than as an atheist. Sure, the persecution on the whole is nowhere near comparable, but to say "you didn't suffer as much as that other guy, so shut up about it" is just ignorant.


is that why atheist bashing is pretty much limited to the Internet while gay bashing most often takes place outside?
 
2014-01-07 03:29:21 PM
The important and overlooked question here is whether or not he was wearing the Colander of Em-er'il. Because he's gonna have a hard time fighting his nemesis without it.

/obscurity level - .2
 
2014-01-07 07:33:59 PM

stonelotus: is that why atheist bashing is pretty much limited to the Internet while gay bashing most often takes place outside?


Oh, its not limited to the internet, not at all. Ask anyone who has served in the US Air Force; my father and his friends had to invent an obscure bullshiat protestant sect (it was apparently passed on to others to use for a while) to avoid some ugly scrutiny coming their way.

Atheist bashing has a long, proud and official history in the USA. A large part of the anti-communist fervor whipped up during the 1950s was obtained by underlining how GODLESS communism was. "In God We Trust" started getting printed on the money then as well, as was 'One nation *under God' added to the public school children's 'pledge of alliegence' then as well.

Having said that, Atheists haven't had it as near as bad as a class as LGBT, African Americans, Latinos, Indians, et al. But there is bias, there's a lot of it, and its quite ingrained into the culture and laws.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-01-07 10:10:52 PM

ReverendJimBobHammer: Mentalpatient87: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mentalpatient87: Yes, that's the joke. We get it already. So glad you could feel clever by repeating the joke yet again...

Maybe you could pray for divine relief from the butthurt you're experiencing?

But I'm an atheist. So who do I pray to? Oh! You thought I was a Christian who feels offended and threatened by your righteous crusade? How sad for you that I'm just a fellow nonbeliever who's sick of watching people show their asses and call it clever.

So... "stop making jokes I don't like"?

Just so I get things straight, and I have already read that you are an atheist, you think the only good atheists are the serious ones who are quiet and non-confrontational about their non-faith, who don't make waves, who don't make fun of any religion, who hide in the shadows?

You sound a lot like the gay guys in the 50s 60s and 70s who were mad at activists who insisted in being gay and flamboyant in the public eye. Saying that they would be left alone if they were only quiet about their gayness.


I for one think he is an asshole for marginalizing his oath of office. It really doesn't matter to me in what manner he did this. The important thing is he deliberately perverted the swearing-in ceremony designed to be a solemn reminder of his oath and dedication for the post to which he was elected.
It shows his lack of seriousness, his lack of maturity, and a disregard for his constituents at large. The use of a kitchen gadget as worn headgear is the bit that changes it from religious freedom to "I am an asshole with no regard for the office to which I have been elected".

I don't care about persecution or any other slighting that may be discussed here, only that this jackass lacks any decorum whatsoever and all indications are he will be an idiot with only an agenda to his name and not one shred of seriousness.

Finally, if he was legitimately expressing his religious beliefs I offer a resounding "EFF YOU" to him for violating the entire idea of 'separation of church and state". Keep religion out of politics, politics are already corrupt enough and adding religious corruption is just doubling-down on the smarm.
 
2014-01-07 10:22:25 PM

gja: Keep religion out of politics, politics are already corrupt enough and adding religious corruption is just doubling-down on the smarm.


I agree. But the Christians have to give up the "swearing on the bible by default" thing first.
 
2014-01-07 10:25:50 PM

Hunchentoot: stonelotus: is that why atheist bashing is pretty much limited to the Internet while gay bashing most often takes place outside?

Oh, its not limited to the internet, not at all. Ask anyone who has served in the US Air Force; my father and his friends had to invent an obscure bullshiat protestant sect (it was apparently passed on to others to use for a while) to avoid some ugly scrutiny coming their way.

Atheist bashing has a long, proud and official history in the USA. A large part of the anti-communist fervor whipped up during the 1950s was obtained by underlining how GODLESS communism was. "In God We Trust" started getting printed on the money then as well, as was 'One nation *under God' added to the public school children's 'pledge of alliegence' then as well.

Having said that, Atheists haven't had it as near as bad as a class as LGBT, African Americans, Latinos, Indians, et al. But there is bias, there's a lot of it, and its quite ingrained into the culture and laws.


then you should have no problem posting examples of christians beating up atheists, you know in recent history.   I'd be willing to bet that christians get beaten up by atheists more often. much more often. remember, you're the one who said, "There are some places here in the U.S. where it's probably safer to come out as gay than as an atheist."
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-01-07 10:28:17 PM

MooseUpNorth: gja: Keep religion out of politics, politics are already corrupt enough and adding religious corruption is just doubling-down on the smarm.

I agree. But the Christians have to give up the "swearing on the bible by default" thing first.


I am Christian, and I see no reason for that bit myself. Tell the politicians to make a change (good luck with that).
It never made any sense to me since many professional liars...err.....politicians, aren't christian.
On top of that, they are swearing in on a book so rife with mis-translations, fill-in-the-blanks bullcrap, and best-guesses it is of little value other than to scare the turd out of young kids in an effort to control them.
 
2014-01-07 11:14:16 PM

MythDragon: phlegmmo: Eddie Adams from Torrance: We should ban politicians who openly belong to made-up religions.

The question is: who decides which religions are made-up?


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The one who is left after everything has been eaten.


Heheh. Who's to say Cthulhu isn't real? I mean almost all these religions are made up by one lone man having weird dreams, the rest were likely made up by con men. HPL had dreams that lead to his Cthulhu mythos, so...

Way to get taken seriously, Atheists. You realize you'll never get a seat at the grownup table while you keep stupid shiat up like this, right? You can keep sitting next to the gay guys who walk down the street wearing nothing but dildos in parades at the little kids' table til you can act like adults.
 
2014-01-08 06:03:30 AM

Terrible Old Man: Heheh. Who's to say Cthulhu isn't real?


Who's saying I'm not He isn't?
 
2014-01-08 07:28:34 AM

gja: I am Christian, and I see no reason for that bit myself. Tell the politicians to make a change (good luck with that).


No, no. Doing so would make me one of those asshole uncloseted atheists you've all been biatching about in threads like this. Nope. I'll work on moderating Atheists only when a significant proportion of mainstream Christians demonstrate any sort of willingness to correct (bluntly rampant) injustices caused by Christian or pseudo-Christian extremist political wing(nut)s. When that happens, it'll be a shared solution to a shared problem. Not just one more icky Atheist agitating for corrections to stuff that _clearly_ doesn't affect him in any way and he should just shut up about it already.

/  Until then, this guy gets to wear his colander.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-01-08 08:48:58 AM

MooseUpNorth: gja: I am Christian, and I see no reason for that bit myself. Tell the politicians to make a change (good luck with that).

No, no. Doing so would make me one of those asshole uncloseted atheists you've all been biatching about in threads like this. Nope. I'll work on moderating Atheists only when a significant proportion of mainstream Christians demonstrate any sort of willingness to correct (bluntly rampant) injustices caused by Christian or pseudo-Christian extremist political wing(nut)s. When that happens, it'll be a shared solution to a shared problem. Not just one more icky Atheist agitating for corrections to stuff that _clearly_ doesn't affect him in any way and he should just shut up about it already.

/  Until then, this guy gets to wear his colander.


First, I have not biatched one bit about the atheistic facet of this person. Only that he behaves like a child.
Second, don't wait for anyone else to change. We each make the change happen. That's why I take it upon myself to raise my voice and argue for reform in the church.
Don't wait for others. Make what difference you can.
 
2014-01-08 09:18:59 AM

Voiceofreason01: jso2897: You must not be terribly bright.

That has been pointed to me on occasion


Have you tried substituting 40% of your body with Wolfram and switching to a diet of mostly AAA batteries?
 
2014-01-08 09:34:55 AM
Can people stop pretending that Atheism is an actual thing and not a non-thing? I mean, I'm an atheist and quite a few of you are athists too. But I don't think we have much in common, do we?
I mean, I'm a socialist, cultural imperialist(Norway! YAY!) and academic who loves language, my kids, my work, my wife and playing games (RPG and tabletop) and enjoy a good crime drama (especially about burglary from giant winged lizards) and often overindulge in the use of parenthesis (I know). I think the obsessiveness and hysteria about religious people bog down debates about religion and its validity, the intricateness about religion as a cultural construct rathern than a metaphysical idea. I think there is no absolutes in right or wrong, but that you need to see what your goals (in the widest sense possible) are and act in accordance to them. I think that emotions are good things to have and strive for, but shouldn't be counted for guiding you towards the right action other than in making split second decisions. I'm pro choice.

How much do we really have in common ethically? We don't believe in this one thing? I mean, should I start bonding with other people who think american football is ridiculous? Should I start discussing with other poeple how boring I find watching soccer? Are any of you not particularly fond of having a "rustic" look on things? Think the era of Baroque description should be left dead? Anyone here who also don't prefer the color yellow on t-shirts? Wanna talk about it over coffee?
 
2014-01-08 12:30:52 PM

wickedragon: Should I start discussing with other poeple how boring I find watching soccer?


This is the worst thing in the world!
 
2014-01-08 09:09:29 PM
Meh...

Atheism is soo 2010.
 
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