Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(WECT Wilmington)   Parents call cops for help with their 90 lb teenage son, who is having a schizophrenic episode. Three cops show up, tase and tackle kid. Then one says "We don't have time for this" and shoots him dead   (wect.com) divider line 531
    More: Scary, Southport, administrative leave, state bureau of investigation  
•       •       •

27453 clicks; posted to Main » on 07 Jan 2014 at 12:06 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



531 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | » | Last | Show all
 
2014-01-06 11:52:40 PM  
All praise to Saint Ronaldus Mamimus.
 
2014-01-06 11:53:58 PM  
The lesson here it seems is, as proven time and time again, if a loved one is having a mental health crisis don't call the cops unless you want them shot.
 
2014-01-06 11:55:08 PM  
static3.businessinsider.com
 
2014-01-06 11:56:24 PM  
"Where is the justice, why did they shoot my son?," she asked. "This is what's wrong with our mental health system."

I don't want to blame the family here, buuuut....this is why you don't call the cops for help, especially when a loved one is having a mental episode. This shiat always turns south for these folks.
 
2014-01-06 11:58:53 PM  
Vidal's mother said she had tried multiple times to get Vidal help for his mental illness. Emergency services treated her for a breakdown at the scene.

omg, they shot her, too?
 
2014-01-07 12:00:22 AM  

ultraholland: omg, they shot her, too?


He was only armed with a colander.
 
2014-01-07 12:00:27 AM  
That is a remarkably badly written article.
But, really. 'We don't have time for this' then he shoots in between 2 cops holding a kid on the floor? WTF?
 
2014-01-07 12:02:17 AM  

ultraholland: "Where is the justice, why did they shoot my son?," she asked. "This is what's wrong with our mental health system."

I don't want to blame the family here, buuuut....this is why you don't call the cops for help, especially when a loved one is having a mental episode. This shiat always turns south for these folks.


Sometimes the crisis teams tell you "Call the cops or subdue him yourself, we can't help you."
 
2014-01-07 12:06:05 AM  
Yet another incident that could be resolved if officers were forced to wear video cameras on duty.
 
2014-01-07 12:06:09 AM  
If it went down as described, then that cop deserves murder charges.  This is just plain obscene.
 
2014-01-07 12:08:35 AM  

fusillade762: The lesson here it seems is, as proven time and time again, if a loved one is having a mental health crisis don't call the cops unless you want them shot.


As a son of someone with paranoid schizophrenia, f*ck. you. The police have saved my life, and other peoples' lives, multiple times in stopping a person with schizophrenia and homicidal tendencies from being able to turn attempted murder into homicide.

It's heartbreaking to hear a story like this, but what's broken here is not law enforcement. It's the laws themselves. In many states, it's actually illegal to force someone with homicidal tendencies to receive the psychiatric treatment they need to cease to pose a threat to the lives of others. It doesn't sound like the cops in this case were trained or equipped to deal with a psychotic individual, which may have been due to the family not making it clear to the dispatcher that this was something other than a routine domestic disturbance.
 
2014-01-07 12:09:07 AM  

nmrsnr: Yet another incident that could be resolved if officers were forced to wear video cameras on duty.


Or get advanced degrees in a field of mental health, of course.
 
2014-01-07 12:10:51 AM  
We want ju$tice...

Her daughter doesn't look to be a full potatoe either...
 
2014-01-07 12:12:34 AM  

fusillade762: The lesson here it seems is, as proven time and time again, if a loved one is having a mental health crisis don't call the cops unless you want them shot.


You call 911 and presumably the cops show up along with an ambulance. Sometimes they know what they're doing and sometimes they don't. But what else can you do?

Maybe the problem was that the family communicated that the boy was a threat, rather than that he needed medical attention?
 
2014-01-07 12:13:01 AM  
Are you not protected and served?
 
2014-01-07 12:13:24 AM  
Don't worry, people. Justice will be done. The cop will get a well-earned paid vacation, and no charges will be filed against him.
 
2014-01-07 12:13:40 AM  
Yea but the dog is ok right?
 
2014-01-07 12:13:51 AM  
It's usual for the cops to deal with incidents where a mentally ill person is having an episode that could escalate to where they hurt themselves or someone else. Typically, cops are trained to deal with these situations, or take the advice of a HHS or social worker. However, sometimes cops are assholes, and have guns. I'm betting the cop will get away with a paid holiday until a hearing later finds that he justifiably shot the kid in order to stop the kid from harming someone (namely, himself).
 
2014-01-07 12:14:06 AM  
Cold. Blooded. Murder.
 
2014-01-07 12:16:16 AM  
www.examiner.com

THERE'S NO TIME, KID!!!!
 
2014-01-07 12:16:17 AM  
"We don't have time for this!" I wonder what they do have time for?
 
2014-01-07 12:16:24 AM  

HotWingAgenda: fusillade762: The lesson here it seems is, as proven time and time again, if a loved one is having a mental health crisis don't call the cops unless you want them shot.

As a son of someone with paranoid schizophrenia, f*ck. you. The police have saved my life, and other peoples' lives, multiple times in stopping a person with schizophrenia and homicidal tendencies from being able to turn attempted murder into homicide.

It's heartbreaking to hear a story like this, but what's broken here is not law enforcement. It's the laws themselves. In many states, it's actually illegal to force someone with homicidal tendencies to receive the psychiatric treatment they need to cease to pose a threat to the lives of others. It doesn't sound like the cops in this case were trained or equipped to deal with a psychotic individual, which may have been due to the family not making it clear to the dispatcher that this was something other than a routine domestic disturbance.


BULL! It's the cops. Plain and simple. Fuc&ing storm trooper attitude. Godamm them all!
 
2014-01-07 12:16:48 AM  
BOILING SPRING LAKES, NC :

Squad will arrive shorty to deal with your police.
 
2014-01-07 12:16:54 AM  
The kid was 18 and weighed 90 lbs? His parents should have called Papa Johns.
 
2014-01-07 12:17:21 AM  
FTFA: "There was no reason to shoot this kid," Wilsey said. "They killed my son in cold blood. We called for help and they killed my son."

The bold part, I have seen that at least 4 times before on articles linked here.   This is an unhealthy pattern.
 
2014-01-07 12:17:22 AM  
Whether or not the cops knew that the kid was schizophrenic is irrelevant.  When you have three cops on top of an already tased 90 pound kid, there is no need to shoot him, just to save time.
 
2014-01-07 12:17:32 AM  
What the everloving motherfark?

The Irresponsible Captain: Cold. Blooded. Murder.


Yes.

2xhelix: If it went down as described, then that cop deserves murder charges.  This is just plain obscene.


Yes.
 
2014-01-07 12:17:53 AM  
20+ messages in and no authoritarian asshole cop fellators?

This *is* still Fark, yes?
 
2014-01-07 12:18:10 AM  
Never call for the police in an event like this. Always call the local hospital or ambulance. At the very worst call the operator and ask to be connected to the ambulance.
 
2014-01-07 12:19:42 AM  
Why would a family member call the police in a circumstance such as this?

Want to get a mentally ill family member murdered?  Agitate him and do a start a suicide by cop.  You might even get life insurance money for it.

Not apologizing for the police behavior here, buy I think this should be known already by every family with a seriously mentally ill family member.  Police are not trained to deescalate, they are trained to take control the the situation immediately or kick that person's ass.

Or was it someone who still though the police were on their side.
 
2014-01-07 12:19:47 AM  
"The responding officer for his department was Officer John Thomas."

*snert*
 
2014-01-07 12:20:06 AM  
Yeah, these days, the only reason to ever call the cops is if you want someone (most likely you, a loved one, or a pet) shot and killed by them.
 
2014-01-07 12:20:14 AM  
"Where is the justice, why did they shoot my son?," she asked. "This is what's wrong with our mental health system."

No, this is what's wrong with our militarized police state.
 
2014-01-07 12:20:15 AM  
Holy shiat!  I thought the fark headline was an exaggeration. That's exactly what happened.
 
2014-01-07 12:20:41 AM  

HotWingAgenda: but what's broken here is not law enforcement. It's the laws themselves.


Are you serious? The laws themselves didn't shoot that kid. Law enforcement did.
 
2014-01-07 12:20:54 AM  
Cops shouldn't carry guns.
 
2014-01-07 12:21:03 AM  

nmrsnr: Yet another incident that could be resolved if officers were forced to wear video cameras on duty.


Does anyone really think that the police will willingly provide evidence against themselves?
 
2014-01-07 12:21:16 AM  
Hmm, now that I think about it...

Last time I dealt with cops, one guy was wearing something akin to my raquetball goggles, bit mine are distorted. I should ask where the cops get there prescription goggles. The problem is mine were cut for a flat plane amd installed in a curve.

Oh, and I'd expect cops to be able to handle a flailing runt. But they get good gear around here.
 
2014-01-07 12:21:19 AM  

HotWingAgenda: It's heartbreaking to hear a story like this, but what's broken here is not law enforcement.


two cops holding down a 90 pound teen, while a third simply puts him down because they 'don't have time for this', but law enforcement isn't broken?

dude, the rest of the authority worshiping bootlickers on here at least take -marginally- plausible lines of reasoning when white-knighting the cops. you really need to get with the program. that was just sad.
 
2014-01-07 12:21:49 AM  
18 and 90 lbs??

/the police are not medical professionals or public arbitration, they're for problems that need solving with guns
 
2014-01-07 12:22:46 AM  
AgentPothead
Never call for the police in an event like this. Always call the local hospital or ambulance. At the very worst call the operator and ask to be connected to the ambulance.


Maybe I was jumping the gun, it is possible the dispatcher had some protocol to follow? Just because you ask for the dog catcher does not mean you won't get a swat team.
 
2014-01-07 12:23:20 AM  
"Where is the justice, why did they shoot my son?," she asked. "This is what's wrong with our mental health system."

Do NOT become mentally ill in Arizona. It is absolutely a crime what passes for care for the mentally ill in Arizona. The court monitor appointed to intervene on behalf of the mentally ill was fired due to cost cutting in the Arizona budget. Care was so bad a court monitor was required.
 
2014-01-07 12:23:54 AM  

rudemix: "We don't have time for this!" I wonder what they do have time for?


static.tvtropes.org
 
2014-01-07 12:24:08 AM  
Amazing that the government is fine with giving cops the authority to shoot the mentally ill, but refuse to allow paramedics the authority to dispense anti-psychotic medications in the field.  Why use a 5cc syringe of Haldol when a 9mm bullet is cheaper?
 
2014-01-07 12:24:15 AM  

Jeff_in_ATL: 20+ messages in and no authoritarian asshole cop fellators?

This *is* still Fark, yes?


CruiserTwelve has to sleep sometime.
 
2014-01-07 12:25:15 AM  
Cops have an ability to make an already-chaotic situation either much better or much worse -- with about equal probabilities of it going either way.  Looks like this family wasn't lucky.
 
2014-01-07 12:26:01 AM  

Molavian: No, this is what's wrong with our militarized police state.


Those of you who actually remember history class...is there any precedent in World History for dialing back the position we are in now (militarized police, paranoid government) that *doesn't* involve a complete reset?  I can't remember one, and I'm thinking the reason that nothing has been done is that nothing *can* be done that would not be worse, at least short term, than the status quo.

People used to get on a boat and cross an ocean or something to get away, too, but all the oceans have been crossed.
 
2014-01-07 12:26:04 AM  
Let me stick a tiny screwdriver into your jugular veins and then tell me how inconsequential it is. But that actually has nothing to do with this story.  This is a complete WTF.
 
2014-01-07 12:26:25 AM  
He weighed 90 lbs. We should evaluate the mental health system in this country (or lack of one), but more importantly we should evaluate the physical fitness requirements for police officers.

You have no business being a cop if two of you can't subdue a 90 lbs individual.
 
WGJ
2014-01-07 12:27:04 AM  

rudemix: "We don't have time for this!" I wonder what they do have time for?


Donuts
 
Displayed 50 of 531 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter






In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report