log_jammin: I hate to be "that guy" that's always in fark threads, ready to shiat on something that's pretty cool...but...the cynic in me says that teaching CS over there is kinda helping the regime. the average north Korean isn't going to benefit from it, only the elite. The last thing NK needs is people teaching them how to get awesome frames in battlefield 4.
TheXerox: That. I'd love to see a place which is so different from what I see here in the US, but I cannot justify giving a cent of my money to a despot.
karmaceutical: I think people' borderline obsession with North Korea is very strange. It seems to be an affliction of right-leaning news addicts.
NewportBarGuy: Confabulat: I don't have a lot of interest in travel, but if I could go anywhere, it would be there.Why?
SansNeural: But to the topic at hand, computer science teaching dude is a shiatbag for aiding, abetting and providing comfort to the enemy. Just my opinion.
SansNeural: I've traveled to S. Korea on various business ventures since the late 80s - very nearly settled down near Masan, in fact. I love almost everything about the people, food and culture but I know nothing concrete about the people of N. Korea. Paraphrasing Confabulat, I know just about everything I can know without ever having been there.I can conjecture that at the end of WWII, Koreans were all generally of the same culture that had persisted and evolved over at least hundreds of years (perhaps counting from the reign of Sejong the Great). After the armistice was signed in '53, S. Koreans began a decades long struggle to pull themselves not just into the first world, but all the way into a preeminent position. I like to imagine that N. Koreans may still have the same characteristics necessary succeed, given the chance, but while their southern kin were busy being scrappy and bootstrappy, the North were busy fighting for scraps and being boot-heeled. Three or four generations that shiat later, can they still be Koreans as I would recognize? I don't know, but as I said, I like to think so.But to the topic at hand, computer science teaching dude is a shiatbag for aiding, abetting and providing comfort to the enemy. Just my opinion. I know there are S. Koreans who would disagree with me, but hey - there are dumb people in every culture.
dragonchild: karmaceutical: I think people' borderline obsession with North Korea is very strange. It seems to be an affliction of right-leaning news addicts.I think it transcends that; it's a case study on a failed society. Human social negative feedback mechanisms that would prevent such a thing from happening all catastrophically failed, until it's the closest thing humans have created to a hive on the scale of a country -- except nowhere near as successful or efficient. If anything, a great percentage of their resources are spent maintaining the failure. The entire country is motivated to support a leader that provides no value. It's like a beetle killed the queen of an ant's nest and took over. You want a case for the importance of independent, critical thinking skills? Here ya go.The only real connection to right-leaning news is, as much as they demonize America's "enemies", Fox News wishes they were this wildly successful at controlling people.
Confabulat: And the cannibalism tales seem to be pretty overrated and more like folklore at this point, though it may have happened in the 90s or even now in rare occasions. But it's hardly something that happens on a daily basis.
AverageAmericanGuy: Those same students will one day be sitting at these desks preparing to rain fire down upon the cowardly infidel dog Americans.
Rezurok: Begoggle: This link is full of NguyenNot bad, but that's vietnam.
Yankees Team Gynecologist: karmaceutical: I think people' borderline obsession with North Korea is very strange. It seems to be an affliction of right-leaning news addicts.Or hipsters. At least when nobody knew to be fascinated with this place nobody knew about--i.e., before it was cool.
Begoggle: This link is full of Nguyen
karmaceutical: I think people' borderline obsession with North Korea is very strange.
NewportBarGuy: Hey, it is what it is. Glad you made it back.
nekom: Confabulat: I don't have a lot of interest in travel, but if I could go anywhere, it would be there.I'd be pretty torn. On the one hand, strangely enough I'd probably feel safer there than I do at home. Crime against tourists is said to be virtually non-existent (probably because the tours are strictly monitored), and as long as you play the "when in Rome" game you should be able to avoid running afoul of the regime.But on the other hand, everyone knows it's an absolute sham tour. Plus you are propping up (albeit in a very small way) one of the worst dictatorships the world has ever known. Something would just seem so VERY wrong about eating a 12 course meal while knowing that not too far away, people are being starved, tortured and/or worked to death.But on the other other hand, it would be unique, that's for sure. Not sure I'd want a DPRK stamp on a passport though. Do they do the thing Cuba is said to do where they'll just *wink wink nudge nudge* staple a piece of paper and stamp that so it can be easily removed?
NewportBarGuy: Confabulat: Because it would be the most like visiting a sci-fi city I'm likely to experience in my lifetime.You know they eat human beings there? Right?
Confabulat: I don't have a lot of interest in travel, but if I could go anywhere, it would be there.
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