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2014-01-07 12:14:04 AM  
This is the article that comes out of day one of CES?

Android has all the groundwork to put a stranglehold on interconnected devices.

YOU CAN BOOK THAT and call it done.

Check out the CES coverage here:  http://www.androidcentral.com/ceslive
 
2014-01-07 12:48:07 AM  
Sorry, but I don't trust the LG brand. Had one of their cell phones, was a piece of crap.
 
2014-01-07 12:58:36 AM  
LG makes crap.
 
2014-01-07 01:12:46 AM  

gameshowhost: LG makes crap.


simplicimus: Sorry, but I don't trust the LG brand. Had one of their cell phones, was a piece of crap.


The phones are pretty solid. The G2 is a nice device and they have done the last 2 Nexus phones (they have software issues in my opinion but that is NOT LGs fault. That is on Google.

The problem is how long they support the devices and the jury is still out on that.
 
2014-01-07 01:17:53 AM  

Piizzadude: The phones are pretty solid. The G2 is a nice device and they have done the last 2 Nexus phones (they have software issues in my opinion but that is NOT LGs fault. That is on Google.


I'll give you the benefit of doubt on that. But my LG cell was the only phone I owned that would freeze so hard, I had to remove the battery to get it to work. Weekly.
 
2014-01-07 01:40:14 AM  

simplicimus: Piizzadude: The phones are pretty solid. The G2 is a nice device and they have done the last 2 Nexus phones (they have software issues in my opinion but that is NOT LGs fault. That is on Google.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt on that. But my LG cell was the only phone I owned that would freeze so hard, I had to remove the battery to get it to work. Weekly.


We talking a flip phone or smartphone?

I wouldn't recommend them to anyone (depending on the choices I should say) straight away, but they are coming up, and they do a lot of other household things (tvs, firdges, stuff like that) so they are positioning themselves as an alternative to the Samsung vision of a connected house.

Neither of which I like. I want to be sure that my HTC phone works with my LG TV and my Samsung Fridge.
 
2014-01-07 01:44:47 AM  

Piizzadude: simplicimus: Piizzadude: The phones are pretty solid. The G2 is a nice device and they have done the last 2 Nexus phones (they have software issues in my opinion but that is NOT LGs fault. That is on Google.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt on that. But my LG cell was the only phone I owned that would freeze so hard, I had to remove the battery to get it to work. Weekly.

We talking a flip phone or smartphone?

I wouldn't recommend them to anyone (depending on the choices I should say) straight away, but they are coming up, and they do a lot of other household things (tvs, firdges, stuff like that) so they are positioning themselves as an alternative to the Samsung vision of a connected house.

Neither of which I like. I want to be sure that my HTC phone works with my LG TV and my Samsung Fridge.


Smartphone. Have a Motorola now, works like a charm.
 
2014-01-07 02:43:16 AM  

simplicimus: Piizzadude: simplicimus: Piizzadude: The phones are pretty solid. The G2 is a nice device and they have done the last 2 Nexus phones (they have software issues in my opinion but that is NOT LGs fault. That is on Google.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt on that. But my LG cell was the only phone I owned that would freeze so hard, I had to remove the battery to get it to work. Weekly.

We talking a flip phone or smartphone?

I wouldn't recommend them to anyone (depending on the choices I should say) straight away, but they are coming up, and they do a lot of other household things (tvs, firdges, stuff like that) so they are positioning themselves as an alternative to the Samsung vision of a connected house.

Neither of which I like. I want to be sure that my HTC phone works with my LG TV and my Samsung Fridge.

Smartphone. Have a Motorola now, works like a charm.


Either way. Doesn't matter. Motorola has some great things going on now.
 
2014-01-07 02:54:12 AM  
I have an LG Smart TV and the software is awesome. I can connect to my media server and play all my movies and TV shows.
 
2014-01-07 05:29:46 AM  

change1211: I have an LG Smart TV and the software is awesome. I can connect to my media server and play all my movies and TV shows.


you lie, and are full of shiat. LG is terrible.
 
2014-01-07 05:49:03 AM  

change1211: I have an LG Smart TV and the software is awesome. I can connect to my media server and play all my movies and TV shows.


Ever put a packet sniffer on that TV and notice how its sending packets containing all the files names across the tubes to some IP address owned by LG?  No?  Well it does..
 
2014-01-07 05:53:40 AM  
simplicimus: Sorry, but I don't trust the LG brand. Had one of their cell phones, was a piece of crap.

I always thought of them as the typical chinese/korean/japanese hive style company.

Where the division that made one phone isn't necessarily the same group that made another phone.

// had an LG flip phone back in the days, it was awesome.

// had an LG monitor, great

// currently on two LG monitors, both great

// Had an LG optical DVD Burner ... sucked (just crapped out, band on the tray motor went out, replaced it with an o ring ... but the tray motor itself seems to be dead as well)
 
2014-01-07 06:07:50 AM  
Know how we can tell most of you didn't read the article?

/Trolltastic headline, subby, considering this piece is about smart TVs and webOS.
 
2014-01-07 06:11:54 AM  
So we are meant now to get up and touch the TV screen to change channel again? Screw that. I either have a remote, use a wireless keyboard and mouse or I go and do something else if I am getting up anyway.

I already have a TV with a remote, it`s hooked up to my media PC which already has a wireless keyboard and mouse.

Product is full of fail. Just more to go wrong.
 
2014-01-07 06:47:26 AM  

Piizzadude: This is the article that comes out of day one of CES?

Android has all the groundwork to put a stranglehold on interconnected devices.

YOU CAN BOOK THAT and call it done.

Check out the CES coverage here:  http://www.androidcentral.com/ceslive


I was going to say "link a unbias source", but these days every tech site has bias.
The Verge: Pro Google. The only site that writes some shiat about Google glass every 3 days
Gizmodo: Pro Apple. Seems to always find Apple products lying around
Engadget: Was pro Apple till The Verge pulled away its' Google fanbois is now just reporting anything about Microsoft in a snarky fark kinda way while propping up anything Google and Apple
 
2014-01-07 06:57:03 AM  
Maybe if TVs work out, LG will give webOS a second shot at phones and tablets.
 
2014-01-07 07:06:12 AM  
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2014-01-07 07:08:13 AM  

simplicimus: Sorry, but I don't trust the LG brand. Had one of their cell phones, was a piece of crap.


Depends on the phone. The Nexus 4/5 are solid phones, along with the Optimus G and G2 that they were developed from.
 
2014-01-07 07:17:47 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Piizzadude: This is the article that comes out of day one of CES?

Android has all the groundwork to put a stranglehold on interconnected devices.

YOU CAN BOOK THAT and call it done.

Check out the CES coverage here:  http://www.androidcentral.com/ceslive

I was going to say "link a unbias source", but these days every tech site has bias.
The Verge: Pro Google. The only site that writes some shiat about Google glass every 3 days
Gizmodo: Pro Apple. Seems to always find Apple products lying around
Engadget: Was pro Apple till The Verge pulled away its' Google fanbois is now just reporting anything about Microsoft in a snarky fark kinda way while propping up anything Google and Apple


I would but since we were primarily talking about Android/Phones I went with a favorite of mine. The kinda neat thing is that they have a ring of biased sites so you can choose what bias you want to choose from. it is called Mobile Nations ... pretty good sites for whatever phone you have.

bbfreak: simplicimus: Sorry, but I don't trust the LG brand. Had one of their cell phones, was a piece of crap.

Depends on the phone. The Nexus 4/5 are solid phones, along with the Optimus G and G2 that they were developed from.


The Nexus 4 may have been a solid build (except the glass back), but the phone itself what shait. Both suffer from slightly below average battery and crap for cameras. I like the G2 though
 
2014-01-07 07:27:14 AM  
Does the TV come with a duck dynasty channel?  If not you'll lose half your user base right there.
 
2014-01-07 07:32:59 AM  

relaxitsjustme: Does the TV come with a duck dynasty channel?  If not you'll lose half your user base right there.


Depends are you hetero/white/married to a 15 year old?

/kidding
 
2014-01-07 07:51:57 AM  
The only lg product I have ever owned is my current nexus 5, which I sure as hell did not buy because it was an lg. The power button on mine and every other first release nexus 5 rattles so bad I don't understand how it was missed. That said, I am please with the device but would not be interested in lg beyond my current phone.
 
2014-01-07 08:13:58 AM  
I've never used an LG phone, but I swear by their TVs.  You get much more bang for your buck than their competitors.

I will never buy another Sony TV again.
 
2014-01-07 08:22:08 AM  

Galvatron Zero: I've never used an LG phone, but I swear by their TVs.  You get much more bang for your buck than their competitors.

I will never buy another Sony TV again.



Just the opposite here . . . my last tube was a Sony, my first flat screen was an LG.  Replaced it with a Sony in less than a month.

/ YMMV, etc.
 
2014-01-07 08:23:58 AM  

simplicimus: Sorry, but I don't trust the LG brand. Had one of their cell phones, was a piece of crap.


gameshowhost: LG makes crap.


I've had two that were solid. I love my G2, and LG makes the Nexus 5 for Google based on the G2.

As far as I know, they don't use Foxconn, either. They makes their own stuff in Korea.
 
2014-01-07 08:28:34 AM  

Piizzadude: gameshowhost: LG makes crap.

simplicimus: Sorry, but I don't trust the LG brand. Had one of their cell phones, was a piece of crap.

The phones are pretty solid. The G2 is a nice device and they have done the last 2 Nexus phones (they have software issues in my opinion but that is NOT LGs fault. That is on Google.

The problem is how long they support the devices and the jury is still out on that.


Also, just generally how long this "quality" phase will last. Like Samsung and a lot of other companies, they got their shiat together and suddenly started making solid products in a relatively short period of time, which is commendable. They even make the iPhone display, or at least some of them. But who knows whether it will last.
 
2014-01-07 08:33:09 AM  
LG has come a long way from their Goldstar days.

I've got a 1080p monitor of theirs, and have had no problems with it.  It even has adjustment menus for far more things than I would have thought possible.
 
2014-01-07 09:29:33 AM  

bsharitt: Maybe if TVs work out, LG will give webOS a second shot at phones and tablets.


I hope so... as I stare at my Pre, Pre2 and now Pre3 (and my Touchpads), I've yet to see anything that I care about when it comes to what could replace them devices.
 
2014-01-07 09:33:13 AM  

Galvatron Zero: I swear by their TVs.  You get much more bang for your buck than their competitors.


This. Consumer Reports even ranks them as the best LED displays on the market.
 
2014-01-07 09:36:38 AM  

BumpInTheNight: change1211: I have an LG Smart TV and the software is awesome. I can connect to my media server and play all my movies and TV shows.

Ever put a packet sniffer on that TV and notice how its sending packets containing all the files names across the tubes to some IP address owned by LG?  No?  Well it does..


Most households don't have someone capable of doing it, but a quick firewall filter could take care of that.
 
2014-01-07 10:11:50 AM  

BumpInTheNight: change1211: I have an LG Smart TV and the software is awesome. I can connect to my media server and play all my movies and TV shows.

Ever put a packet sniffer on that TV and notice how its sending packets containing all the files names across the tubes to some IP address owned by LG?  No?  Well it does..


I'm assuming this is in reference to the OPT-IN feature WHICH TELLS YOU IT DOES THIS where it tracks what you watch to better predict other shows you have access to which you may also like. It's called "Live Plus" or something like that.
 
2014-01-07 10:35:06 AM  
The same LG that was caught sending info back from their current Smart TV's such as file names of media. It could even sniff out open network shares and not just usb attached devices. I think I'd avoid connecting any of their TV's so they can get on the Internet.
 
2014-01-07 10:44:01 AM  

digistil: BumpInTheNight: change1211: I have an LG Smart TV and the software is awesome. I can connect to my media server and play all my movies and TV shows.

Ever put a packet sniffer on that TV and notice how its sending packets containing all the files names across the tubes to some IP address owned by LG?  No?  Well it does..

I'm assuming this is in reference to the OPT-IN feature WHICH TELLS YOU IT DOES THIS where it tracks what you watch to better predict other shows you have access to which you may also like. It's called "Live Plus" or something like that.


Seems the review units ignored the opt-in and phoned home anyway. Easy enough to block at your home router, provided you know that you need to do it.
 
2014-01-07 11:26:13 AM  
I'm not sure I need a Smart TV.  All I do on that box is show the image.

I've got the Home Theater for sound.
DirecTV DVR for watching TV, streaming Youtube
PS3 for playing games, streaming Amazon and NetFlix
Apple TV for streaming music and iTunes movies

No matter how smart the TV is, it's not going to replace the Sat DVR or PS3.
 
2014-01-07 11:49:04 AM  

digistil: BumpInTheNight: change1211: I have an LG Smart TV and the software is awesome. I can connect to my media server and play all my movies and TV shows.

Ever put a packet sniffer on that TV and notice how its sending packets containing all the files names across the tubes to some IP address owned by LG?  No?  Well it does..

I'm assuming this is in reference to the OPT-IN feature WHICH TELLS YOU IT DOES THIS where it tracks what you watch to better predict other shows you have access to which you may also like. It's called "Live Plus" or something like that.


Is that the same one where the researcher turned it off but the packets kept flowing?  Because that's the one I'm talking about.  We're not talking about streaming from some service they provide, we're talking every file name you open using the TV's local network storage capabilities is sent back to LG, as someone else mentioned that also includes any open shares it finds on your network too.
 
2014-01-07 12:06:02 PM  

bsharitt: Maybe if TVs work out, LG will give webOS a second shot at phones and tablets.


We can only hope.
 
2014-01-07 12:32:06 PM  
Stop telling me that the operating system inside a device (TV, car) matters. It doesn't. Being able to run the same apps everywhere is pointless. I don't need [popular game] in the vehicle dash. When I worked at BlackBerry the executive and middle management teams were always patting themselves on the back because QNX IS IN CARS! and that matters because your device will TALK TO IT!

farking standards matter - signals (e.g. bluetooth, Wi-Fi) and consistent APIs are what matters. What's in the box does not. Most important, significant life enhancing things come from integrating many facets of your life together. Not running the same shiat everywhere.
 
2014-01-07 01:36:11 PM  
Are you shiatting me? Seriously? How much did LG pay for this?

I have an LG smart TV, in fact. It's a total piece of shiat. I don't know who the hell designed it, but that Wii-like (except worse) control system and lack of anything on the remote aside from a scroll wheel and a volume button screams of terrible design.

Oh you want to go to a specific channel? Better call up the on-screen keypad and key it in using the shiatty point and click remote. All the inconvenience of using a Wii-mote with all the inconvenience of typing using your mouse! What a deal!

Oh you want to watch Netflix? Lol I'm just going to sign you out randomly because I don't know how to write a proper app. You can just retype your password using that magic remote again, yes? Amazing! Earth-shattering!

And don't even get me started on the glare. The TV is barely usable if there's any amount of sunlight hitting it.

Seriously, if LG is the new Apple, then their equivalent of Steve Jobs must have Downs Syndrome.
 
2014-01-07 02:00:43 PM  

sugardave: bsharitt: Maybe if TVs work out, LG will give webOS a second shot at phones and tablets.

We can only hope.


they can have blackberries 3%
 
2014-01-07 02:59:39 PM  
We have a LG microwave and LG stove.  After 2 years the stove's touchpad has some buttons that work only when they want and the microwave doesn't always enable the magnetron when nuking food.

No LG product will ever enter this house again.
 
2014-01-07 03:26:03 PM  
The image they had in the article was fun.   I think cracked talked about it a year ago.  People are dumping cable for netflix, hulu, etc.  What's happening is these are becoming "channels" on the TV.   Each channel has exclusive content and its own ads like normal cable TV.  The only difference: you're paying per channel now.
 
2014-01-08 11:54:44 AM  
LG = Goldstar?
 
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