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(Slate)   Are you a Democrat but don't really want to vote for Hillary in 2016? Meet her most likely primary challenger   (slate.com) divider line 218
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2014-01-07 09:55:55 AM

jwa007: It's funny.  In 2008 I KNEWHilary would be our next president and I couldn't farking wait.  Well, that did not go at all like I expected or wanted it to.  It pissed me off to no end that Obama managed to project the fairy tale image of Hope and Change and yank the rug out from under her.  And now we have had 8 years of a great orator, but not a great doer.  He has some things to his credit but at times his actions are indistinguishable from his predecessor.

But now, I'm not sure HIlary is the one I want to see in 2016.  This guy seems kind of cool, and for that very reason probably will not get anywhere.  Ah well.

Fark it.  My state is probably going to re-elect Rick Scott so we are all screwed down here, more than normal.

/no point to all of this except I once loved HIlary and now I'm not so sure.


I've worked the Democratic caucus in my area for 20 years, and I never saw anything like 2008 locally in my otherwise conservative Rep area of the Houston suburbs.
 
2014-01-07 10:04:06 AM
He young enough to be setting himself up for 2024.
 
2014-01-07 10:06:45 AM

Pick: Why anyone in their right mind would vote for Hillary for president of the United States is beyond me. After the way she handled Benghazi, would you want her handling the entire country that same way? I would not.


What difference does it make at this point how she handled Benghazi?
 
2014-01-07 10:27:53 AM
The GOP craps their pants at the thought of a ticket with Hillary with Steve Beshear as VP.   After cornering themselves with the Southern Strategy, what happens when the Democrats start pushing further into the South?  (after already taking Virginia).      Also hard to run solely focused on the failure of Obamacare when someone is on the ticket who has proved Obamacare can work.
 
2014-01-07 10:44:20 AM

InmanRoshi: The GOP craps their pants at the thought of a ticket with Hillary with Steve Beshear as VP.   After cornering themselves with the Southern Strategy, what happens when the Democrats start pushing further into the South?  (after already taking Virginia).      Also hard to run solely focused on the failure of Obamacare when someone is on the ticket who has proved Obamacare can work.


[citation needed]
 
2014-01-07 10:59:18 AM
illannoyin:
img.fark.net

Haha wow, that image needs a caption thread or something...
 
2014-01-07 11:18:36 AM

InmanRoshi: The GOP craps their pants at the thought of a ticket with Hillary with Steve Beshear as VP.   After cornering themselves with the Southern Strategy, what happens when the Democrats start pushing further into the South?  (after already taking Virginia).      Also hard to run solely focused on the failure of Obamacare when someone is on the ticket who has proved Obamacare can work.


Beshear has already said he has no interest in elected office once his term as governor is up.

I'm a native Kentuckian and current Hoosier, and have liked Beshear's pragmatic approach to governing (somewhat populist but not full-tilt progressive, which would NEVER work in a state like Kentucky).  He also goes full-bore at Fancy Farm, which is entertaining.

/can I has an Evan Bayh in 2016?
 
2014-01-07 11:19:08 AM

omgbears: illannoyin:
[img.fark.net image 560x309]

Haha wow, that image needs a caption thread or something...


"Man, that suit is you! You'll get some leg tonight for sure! Tell us how you do!"

/just wanted to imagine DLR's voice coming from Al Gore.
 
2014-01-07 11:30:29 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: If Edward Snowden is a criminal, then so are a lot of people that are working within the CIA and the NSA who have been spying illegally on American citizens. They ought to grant Snowden clemency.

On "blowback" upon leaving Afghanistan: If it all goes to hell in a handbasket, that's fine. That happened after Alexander the Great left; that happened after the Russians left. Who cares? They live in the Stone Age. If you ask generals whether we should stay in a war a little longer, that's like asking a barber whether you need a haircut.

Slate: when you ran in 2004, when you won the governor's race, there were gay marriage and marijuana issues on the ballot, and Republicans thought they'd set "family values" traps for you.

Schweitzer: Oh, yeah, name these Republicans. The ones cheating on their third wives while they're talking about traditional family values? Those ones?


What the hell ass balls - a politican who expresses an opinion?  When the hell did that happen??


That's not exactly an  opinion, so much as things that are not really wise to say politically. I mean, yes, some of it is honest, logical opinion, but saying an entire nation lives in the Stone Age and openly not giving a fark...uh, not sure I want this guy in charge of anything. Not if he can't figure out how to be polite.
 
2014-01-07 12:32:19 PM

Tricky Chicken: InmanRoshi: The GOP craps their pants at the thought of a ticket with Hillary with Steve Beshear as VP.   After cornering themselves with the Southern Strategy, what happens when the Democrats start pushing further into the South?  (after already taking Virginia).      Also hard to run solely focused on the failure of Obamacare when someone is on the ticket who has proved Obamacare can work.

[citation needed]


media.economist.com
 
2014-01-07 12:41:02 PM

aimtastic: That photo makes me want to vote for Hilary Clinton. I don't think they could have chosen a douchier looking screenshot.


Clearly you think deeply about who you vote for.  I hope there's no white nationalists who are prettier than Hillary Clinton on the ballot.
 
2014-01-07 12:55:31 PM

MontanaDave: Fark It: this coming from someone who was a Senator.

Reading comprehension much? TFA states Schweitzer is not going to run for the open senate seat. He is a former Governor, not a Senator. Everything I know of him indicates he would have said the same thing if he had been a Senator, but the fact remains that he was never a Senator.


I herped.
 
2014-01-07 01:24:46 PM

Rent Party: Tricky Chicken: InmanRoshi: The GOP craps their pants at the thought of a ticket with Hillary with Steve Beshear as VP.   After cornering themselves with the Southern Strategy, what happens when the Democrats start pushing further into the South?  (after already taking Virginia).      Also hard to run solely focused on the failure of Obamacare when someone is on the ticket who has proved Obamacare can work.

[citation needed]

[media.economist.com image 595x335]


Funny, that doesn't look like Obamacare. Looks more like Massachusetts. Which as I am sure you are aware is a different thing.
 
2014-01-07 02:39:03 PM

Tricky Chicken: Rent Party: Tricky Chicken: InmanRoshi: The GOP craps their pants at the thought of a ticket with Hillary with Steve Beshear as VP.   After cornering themselves with the Southern Strategy, what happens when the Democrats start pushing further into the South?  (after already taking Virginia).      Also hard to run solely focused on the failure of Obamacare when someone is on the ticket who has proved Obamacare can work.

[citation needed]

[media.economist.com image 595x335]

Funny, that doesn't look like Obamacare. Looks more like Massachusetts. Which as I am sure you are aware is a different thing.


Gosh, I'm sure you know that "Obamacare" is actually "Romneycare,"  which has been pretty successful in  Massachusetts, thus demonstrating it can work.  I'm also likewise sure that made it pretty farking akward for Romney to bash on "Obamacare."

I am absolutely certain you will ignore this in favor of your derp.
 
2014-01-07 03:21:53 PM

Rent Party: Tricky Chicken: Rent Party: Tricky Chicken: InmanRoshi: The GOP craps their pants at the thought of a ticket with Hillary with Steve Beshear as VP.   After cornering themselves with the Southern Strategy, what happens when the Democrats start pushing further into the South?  (after already taking Virginia).      Also hard to run solely focused on the failure of Obamacare when someone is on the ticket who has proved Obamacare can work.

[citation needed]

[media.economist.com image 595x335]

Funny, that doesn't look like Obamacare. Looks more like Massachusetts. Which as I am sure you are aware is a different thing.

Gosh, I'm sure you know that "Obamacare" is actually "Romneycare,"  which has been pretty successful in  Massachusetts, thus demonstrating it can work.  I'm also likewise sure that made it pretty farking akward for Romney to bash on "Obamacare."

I am absolutely certain you will ignore this in favor of your derp.


Romneycare was revenue neutral, ACA came with half a trillion in new taxes.
Romneycare was passed with bipartisan support, ACA was entirely partisan.
One is federalism and the other isn't.

But keep telling yourself that they are the same thing. And never ever ever do a Google search looking for the differences. Stay in your own echo chamber.
 
2014-01-07 05:00:45 PM

Tricky Chicken: Romneycare was passed with bipartisan support, ACA was entirely partisan.


Which goes to show you that Democrats are willing to be reasonable, while Republicans will fight tooth and nail against their own ideas if the Democrats suggest them first.

/and never ever ever do a Google search looking for the similarities
//wouldn't want your echo chamber to be damaged
 
2014-01-07 05:17:54 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Tricky Chicken: Romneycare was passed with bipartisan support, ACA was entirely partisan.

Which goes to show you that Democrats are willing to be reasonable, while Republicans will fight tooth and nail against their own ideas if the Democrats suggest them first.

/and never ever ever do a Google search looking for the similarities
//wouldn't want your echo chamber to be damaged


touche
 
2014-01-08 01:58:01 AM

illannoyin: ox45tallboy: meat0918: Fark It: meat0918: I have a problem voting for her in the primary, mostly because she should have left her serial philandering husband decades ago. And I like Bill.

I don't understand the "Stand by your man" mindset from her generation.

You're naive if you think they had anything other than a political marriage, like the Underwoods in House of Cards.

Haven't seen it, but that's what it seemed like once their marriage was in the public eye.  I'm sure it started out well intentioned enough, and based on love rather than political ambitions, but I'm a bit of a dreamer.

I'm pretty sure this is not what a marriage for the purpose of political ambitions looks like.

[img15.nnm.ru image 470x462]

The problem is Bill wasn't satisfied keeping his extra curricular activities within the confines of their swinging.

What's that? You didn't know the Clintons were swingers? Oh! well, take a look at this pic taken just moments before things got fa-reaky on the Hillary for senate tour bus back in the day!

[i.imgur.com image 560x309]


See that look on Bill's face? He banged Tipper like a drum that night!

/Then Hillary
//Then Tipper again while she and Hillary 69'd
///Al only got oral but was just glad to be involved somewhere


And now we know the origin of An Inconvenient Truth.
 
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