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(MSNBC)   Republicans: The War on Poverty. Huh. Good God, y'all. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Just say it again   (msnbc.com) divider line 191
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2014-01-06 05:00:46 PM
i've said it before, and i'll say it again: they've become caricatures of evil.
 
2014-01-06 05:22:20 PM
Better a war on poverty than a war on the poor the republicans want to wage.
 
2014-01-06 05:37:28 PM

Ambivalence: Better a war on poverty than a war on the poor the republicans want to wage.


or the war on women, or the war on poor women
 
2014-01-06 06:00:40 PM
I'll declare the war on poverty a failure when you agree that the war on drugs is also a failure.
 
2014-01-06 06:34:30 PM
This is like Ho Chi Mihn biatching that the U.S. failed to liberate Vietnam from the Communists.
 
2014-01-06 06:35:00 PM

5 star chef of tv dinners: I'll declare the war on poverty a failure when you agree that the war on drugs is also a failure.


what that farker said, Plus the war on "Terrorism"
 
2014-01-06 07:05:16 PM
"Instead of continuing to borrow and spend trillions of dollars on government programs that don't work

Please define "work".

www.greaternycforchange.org
 
2014-01-06 07:28:55 PM

vudukungfu: 5 star chef of tv dinners: I'll declare the war on poverty a failure when you agree that the war on drugs is also a failure.

what that farker said, Plus the war on "Terrorism"


And "Obesity"
 
2014-01-06 07:35:59 PM

FlashHarry: i've said it before, and i'll say it again: they've become caricatures of evil.


I'm pretty sure the next Republican National Convention is going to take place on a island in the shape of a skull.
 
2014-01-06 07:44:15 PM

TheOmni: FlashHarry: i've said it before, and i'll say it again: they've become caricatures of evil.

I'm pretty sure the next Republican National Convention is going to take place on a island in the shape of a skull.


Will they have fricking sharks with fricking lazorrs on their heads?
 
2014-01-06 07:47:05 PM

FlashHarry: i've said it before, and i'll say it again: they've become caricatures of evil.


It's hard to win the war on poverty when the Republicans are doing their best to drive the middle class into poverty.
 
2014-01-06 07:48:40 PM
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2014-01-06 07:50:10 PM
A proposal to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour - which could help lift from 5 million out of poverty according to a study released last week - has scant support from Republicans either.

Funny how well it polls, though.
 
2014-01-06 07:50:21 PM
Like the War on Drugs?

Is being poor now a crime?
 
2014-01-06 07:52:04 PM
maybe he misspoke & actually meant they were gonna wage a war on those living in poverty... that's gotta be it.

either way, i applaud at least acknowledging that poverty exists.
 
2014-01-06 07:52:06 PM
Isn't the War on Poverty's existence a de facto acknowledgment that small government solutions didn't work in the first place?

/see also progressive taxation, the New Deal, the FDA, etc.
 
2014-01-06 07:52:18 PM
"...what our country needs is a real agenda that helps people acquire the skills they need to lift themselves out of poverty and to pursue the American dream."

I wonder how the Party That Hates Financial Aid for Students proposes that people pay to get the skills they need to get out of poverty.
 
2014-01-06 07:53:16 PM
forgot.

the only way to win a war on poverty is ... wait for it ...  tax breaks for the rich!
 
2014-01-06 07:53:46 PM
Because remember, if we just stop helping the poor they'll become millionaires overnight thanks to the bootstraps that replaced their food stamps.  Corporations will hire everybody if we just cut unemployment and the income tax for the top 1%.  For billions less than what we currently pay to support those living in poverty, we could just buy the remaining few that lack them, slightly used refrigerators.
 
2014-01-06 07:54:12 PM

Prophet of Loss: Like the War on Drugs?

Is being poor now a crime?


Pretty much.
 
2014-01-06 07:55:23 PM
Why do you go to the people who remind you that government can't solve problems for advice on how the government can solve problems?
 
2014-01-06 07:56:16 PM

Kevin5280: "...what our country needs is a real agenda that helps people acquire the skills they need to lift themselves out of poverty and to pursue the American dream."

I wonder how the Party That Hates Financial Aid for Students proposes that people pay to get the skills they need to get out of poverty.




Simplicity in itself: sell off some stock, or borrow money from your parents.
 
2014-01-06 07:59:22 PM
So Rubio's "big idea" is to give the impoverished the means to raise themselves out of poverty- I'm assuming through education and skills training-- rather than just perpetuating the status quo of enablement?  The heartless bastard!

May have worked for us old farts but will never fly with the "gotta have it now" generation.
 
2014-01-06 08:00:53 PM

FlashHarry: i've said it before, and i'll say it again: they've become caricatures of evil.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-06 08:01:06 PM
A bad name for a horrible idea.

shiat, we could sell anything to Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan if we attached Reagan's name to it.  Watch in wonder as these stupid assholes tell everybody how Reagan's Undersized Condoms is worth your time and money!  And does well with Reagan-brand Drinkable Paint Thinner!
 
2014-01-06 08:02:01 PM

5 star chef of tv dinners: I'll declare the war on poverty a failure when you agree that the war on drugs is also a failure.


this.

I support teaching people how to do things other than flip burgers or stock shelves, and I'd support the government providing subsidies for this in the same way they did for putting caulk around your windows.
 
2014-01-06 08:02:25 PM
The phrase "war on poverty" always sent my father into a frothing fury. To him, it meant only lazy able-bodied shysters avoiding honest work and getting paid for it. The homeless and the poor were that way "because they want to be." All of them, no exceptions.
 
2014-01-06 08:03:23 PM

clowncar on fire: So Rubio's "big idea" is to give the impoverished the means to raise themselves out of poverty- I'm assuming through education and skills training-- rather than just perpetuating the status quo of enablement?  The heartless bastard!

May have worked for us old farts but will never fly with the "gotta have it now" generation.


So enabling people to get an education isn't enablement?
 
2014-01-06 08:03:38 PM

Kevin5280: "...what our country needs is a real agenda that helps people acquire the skills they need to lift themselves out of poverty and to pursue the American dream."

I wonder how the Party That Hates Financial Aid for Students proposes that people pay to get the skills they need to get out of poverty.


Simple, they push a broom at school. WalMart Level 2 UNLOCKED.
 
2014-01-06 08:04:53 PM
So, the way I take it is, is that if the War on Poverty is over, than there is no more poverty, meaning that those who were considered in poverty are now middle class or close to it/millionaires. Out of sight, out of their minds.
 
2014-01-06 08:05:33 PM
 Ryan has revealed he's   for conservative style proposals that could help serve America's neediest, with some of his supporters throwing the title of "champion of the poor" at him.

Are these people shameless, retarded, or shamelessly retarded?
 
2014-01-06 08:08:14 PM

Kibbler: The phrase "war on poverty" always sent my father into a frothing fury. To him, it meant only lazy able-bodied shysters avoiding honest work and getting paid for it. The homeless and the poor were that way "because they want to be." All of them, no exceptions.


It helps your father feel better about not caring about poor people if he vilifies them.
 
2014-01-06 08:11:02 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Ryan has revealed he's   for conservative style proposals that could help serve America's neediest, with some of his supporters throwing the title of "champion of the poor" at him.

Are these people shameless, retarded, or shamelessly retarded?


You are being unkind to people living with severe mental disabilities.

Ryan and his acolytes choose to act this way.
 
2014-01-06 08:13:39 PM
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2014-01-06 08:15:11 PM
Conservative Template Strategy For Opposing Policies They Don't Like But Which Are Otherwise Popular (CTSFOPTDLBWAOA)

Step 1:  Claim [policy goal] is impossible to achieve or too expensive to be worth pursuing.
Step 2:  Actively work against any steps taken to achieve [policy goal].
Step 3:  Point at failures, delays, or cost overruns in achieving [policy goal] as proof of claims from step 1.
Step 4:  Collect bribe anonymous campaign contribution from special interest group opposed to [policy goal] and/or votes from Herp/Derp portion of electorate.

(yes, I posted this yesterday)
 
2014-01-06 08:18:44 PM
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2014-01-06 08:21:26 PM
Emposter: Conservative Template Strategy For Opposing Policies They Don't Like But Which Are Otherwise Popular (CTSFOPTDLBWAOA) 

Step 1:  Claim [policy goal] is impossible to achieve or too expensive to be worth pursuing.
Step 2:  Actively work against any steps taken to achieve [policy goal].
Step 3:  Point at failures, delays, or cost overruns in achieving [policy goal] as proof of claims from step 1.
Step 4:  Collect bribe anonymous campaign contribution from special interest group opposed to [policy goal] and/or votes from Herp/Derp portion of electorate.


(yes, I posted this yesterday)

(CTSFOPTDLBWAOP)
typo yesterday too?
 
2014-01-06 08:22:19 PM

theteacher: clowncar on fire: So Rubio's "big idea" is to give the impoverished the means to raise themselves out of poverty- I'm assuming through education and skills training-- rather than just perpetuating the status quo of enablement?  The heartless bastard!

May have worked for us old farts but will never fly with the "gotta have it now" generation.

So enabling people to get an education isn't enablement?


Paying for higher education (ie college) is enablement.

Enabling with the education needed to get back into the marketplace would serve them further.  Basic skills like using office equipment and basic computer skills, entry level healthcare, carpentry/hvac or electronics, speaking and interviewing skills, personal finance, resume writing.  You know- keep it simple yet powerful enough to give them the skills needed not to blow a job interview.  No need befuddling their minds with The Tao of Pooh or Intro to Jedi Economics just yet.
 
2014-01-06 08:22:50 PM

Kevin5280: "...what our country needs is a real agenda that helps people acquire the skills they need to lift themselves out of poverty and to pursue the American dream."

I wonder how the Party That Hates Financial Aid for Students proposes that people pay to get the skills they need to get out of poverty.


You were not paying attention during the last election campaign. RMoney told us "you should just borrow from your parents"
 
2014-01-06 08:23:36 PM

AirForceVet: It's hard to win the war on poverty when the Republicans are doing their best to drive the middle class into poverty.


they're trying to win via zerg rush.
 
2014-01-06 08:23:43 PM
If we starve or jail all the poor people, there will be no more poverty.
 
2014-01-06 08:25:27 PM

clowncar on fire: Enabling with the education needed to get back into the marketplace would serve them further. Basic skills like using office equipment and basic computer skills, entry level healthcare, carpentry/hvac or electronics, speaking and interviewing skills, personal finance, resume writing. You know- keep it simple yet powerful enough to give them the skills needed not to blow a job interview. No need befuddling their minds with The Tao of Pooh or Intro to Jedi Economics just yet.


Given that even a lot of simple jobs demand the applicant have a college degree, that's not going to help.

Perhps if we could reform the way HR drones look at things, but that might require eeeviillll regulations.
 
2014-01-06 08:27:06 PM

FlashHarry: i've said it before, and i'll say it again: they've become caricatures of evil.


Remember when they made cogent sounding arguments that free market capitalism was superior because it distributed wealth by merit?

Good times those were, but like acid wash jeans and mullets they are rarely seen these days.
 
2014-01-06 08:28:34 PM

clowncar on fire: theteacher: clowncar on fire: So Rubio's "big idea" is to give the impoverished the means to raise themselves out of poverty- I'm assuming through education and skills training-- rather than just perpetuating the status quo of enablement?  The heartless bastard!

May have worked for us old farts but will never fly with the "gotta have it now" generation.

So enabling people to get an education isn't enablement?

Paying for higher education (ie college) is enablement.

Enabling with the education needed to get back into the marketplace would serve them further.  Basic skills like using office equipment and basic computer skills, entry level healthcare, carpentry/hvac or electronics, speaking and interviewing skills, personal finance, resume writing.  You know- keep it simple yet powerful enough to give them the skills needed not to blow a job interview.  No need befuddling their minds with The Tao of Pooh or Intro to Jedi Economics just yet.



Forgot to mention- learn to tell the difference between someone "going through the motions" and someone who really is eager to better themselves.  Those people who have the fire may actually be the candidates worthy of moving on into a subsidized ride in higher education.
 
2014-01-06 08:30:14 PM

theteacher: clowncar on fire: So Rubio's "big idea" is to give the impoverished the means to raise themselves out of poverty- I'm assuming through education and skills training-- rather than just perpetuating the status quo of enablement?  The heartless bastard!

May have worked for us old farts but will never fly with the "gotta have it now" generation.

So enabling people to get an education isn't enablement?


think he meant "entitlement".  unless you didn't get it and feel the need to be nit picky.
 
2014-01-06 08:30:18 PM

Kevin5280: "...what our country needs is a real agenda that helps people acquire the skills they need to lift themselves out of poverty and to pursue the American dream."

I wonder how the Party That Hates Financial Aid for Students proposes that people pay to get the skills they need to get out of poverty.


You don't need money to get out of poverty.  Just Freedom.
 
2014-01-06 08:31:44 PM
It's a good thing Republicans keep harping on this stuff. They're seriously in danger of losing the grumpy old white guy vote.
 
2014-01-06 08:32:08 PM

indylaw: If we starve or jail all the poor people, there will be no more poverty.


That's the nice thing about life- it finds a way.  You cut back on some of the niceties and desperation makes a great motivator to get off your ass and do something.  Did for me, anyhow.
 
2014-01-06 08:32:32 PM

indylaw: If we starve or jail all the poor people, there will be no more poverty.


Gods and clods?
 
2014-01-06 08:35:22 PM

sdd2000: Kevin5280: "...what our country needs is a real agenda that helps people acquire the skills they need to lift themselves out of poverty and to pursue the American dream."

I wonder how the Party That Hates Financial Aid for Students proposes that people pay to get the skills they need to get out of poverty.

You were not paying attention during the last election campaign. RMoney told us "you should just borrow from your parents"


I think that was a sincere and true statement, given he giving a graduation speech at Otterbein University, Tuition and board are $40k a year.

He wasn't making this a general statement to the nation.
 
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