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2014-01-06 04:09:32 PM  
8 votes:
"Because of the children"?

Really?

The only reason children have unfettered access to pot is because it's illegal, you pinhead.

The people watching this guy are pathetic.
2014-01-06 04:15:00 PM  
7 votes:
Pot isn't toxic tho, nor is it addictive. Hells, caffeine is more addictive than cannabis. But hey, if the GOP wants to divide their time, money and manpower to fighting legalization of cannabis AND stopping gay marriage AND repealing Obamacare AND cutting welfare benefits AND making abortion illegal...then who am I to stop them?
2014-01-06 06:57:34 PM  
5 votes:
michigancertificationcenter.com
2014-01-06 03:49:14 PM  
5 votes:
But alcohol is just fine.
2014-01-06 07:18:53 PM  
4 votes:

NorCalLos: Radioactive Ass: Empty H: No. "Simple" logic says nothing and stop trying to act as her vessel, you suck at it.

Then perhaps you can find a better explanation for the increase in accidental marijuana poisonings involving little kids getting into their parents marijuana laced foodstuffs that doesn't involve an increase in the availability of same.

Perhaps parents are less afraid to take their "poisoned" children to the hospital.


THC has an *extremely* low toxicity rating.  In fact, scientists have to go to extreme methods to force feed enough cannabis into lab rats to the point where it actually kills them.  so where is this alleged poisoning thing coming from?
2014-01-06 07:02:38 PM  
4 votes:
Considering the source I'd take that as a compliment.

Here's hoping Maryland is next.
2014-01-06 07:01:08 PM  
4 votes:

EdgeRunner: Marcus Aurelius: The only reason children have unfettered access to pot is because it's illegal, you pinhead.

I... have no idea what this means. How do kids have "unfettered" access to a restricted - aka fettered - substance? Are you suggesting that making something more readily available somehow makes it harder for kids to get hold of it? Do you really think it's easier for a child to get weed than beer or cough syrup? And even if weed was legalized in every state, don't you realize it would still be illegal for children to purchase?

In the great "Bill O'Reilly is a big dummy for saying all potheads are pinheads" debate, you're a living, breathing "You're Not Helping" jpg.


Because drug dealers don't card you. They don't check for ID to ensure you're of age. I always had a much easier time getting weed than alcohol in high school because no one cared about IDs, they just wanted to make a sale. Regulate it, and make it cheaper than the black market to cut them out. When they can't support themselves selling weed, they'll either stop or try to find something else. People of legal age are able to buy it and keep the legal shops open, and street dealers won't be able to stay in the black market game off what the middle/high school teens are buying.

There's a reason why you don't see any people supporting themselves off underage alcohol dealing. Sure an older sibling/family member/friend can buy alcohol for you or you can pay money for a fake ID, but YOU will have a harder time if you're under 21.
2014-01-06 06:58:25 PM  
4 votes:

EdgeRunner: Marcus Aurelius: The only reason children have unfettered access to pot is because it's illegal, you pinhead.

I... have no idea what this means. How do kids have "unfettered" access to a restricted - aka fettered - substance? Are you suggesting that making something more readily available somehow makes it harder for kids to get hold of it?  Do you really think it's easier for a child to get weed than beer or cough syrup? And even if weed was legalized in every state, don't you realize it would still be illegal for children to purchase?

In the great "Bill O'Reilly is a big dummy for saying all potheads are pinheads" debate, you're a living, breathing "You're Not Helping" jpg.


Honestly, it is. When I was in high school it was a lot easier buy an eighth-ounce of dirt weed than it was to buy a 12-pack of Coors. Other than obvious improvements in the quality of weed, and the increased availability of craft beer in rural America, I can't imagine much has changed over the past 10 years.

/Cough syrup?
2014-01-06 05:02:49 PM  
4 votes:
There's nothing I like better than moralizing from a dude who used to jerk off in front of his secretary with a dildo up his ass, without her consent.
2014-01-06 07:26:45 PM  
3 votes:

groppet: Well once we get the numbers of all the people that have OD'ed since it became legal then we will see if he is right. Like that poor kid that ate part of the cookie he found. That poor poor kid I wish we could start a fund to send to his family............huh? Oh nevermind. Light up people!


I think what we need to look at here is not the horrors of a kid getting a pot cookie but rather that the kid ate a random cookie scrap off of the ground. Was the kid hungry because there was not enough food in the house. What could the government possibly do about that.

Oh and seriously kids need to learn there are consequences to eating random bits off the ground.
2014-01-06 05:57:05 PM  
3 votes:
So we should continue to lock people up because children might get ahold of some and idiots might drive on it? Well that's certainly the Small Government solution.


vernonFL: there has been a spike in ER visits of children who ate their parents pot candy or cookies.

Parents, please be careful.


Citation needed.
2014-01-06 03:53:13 PM  
3 votes:
Well if anyone should be able to spot a pinhead it would be Bill.
2014-01-06 08:03:24 PM  
2 votes:

doctor wu: Weaver95: Pot isn't toxic tho, nor is it addictive. Hells, caffeine is more addictive than cannabis. But hey, if the GOP wants to divide their time, money and manpower to fighting legalization of cannabis AND stopping gay marriage AND repealing Obamacare AND cutting welfare benefits AND making abortion illegal...then who am I to stop them?

Perhaps not in a chemical sense, like harder drugs, but there are plenty of people who are extremely dependant on weed. Maybe it"s more of a psychological thing, but someone who smokes weed all day every day is dependant. Having said that, I completely support legalization. It's time to end the deeply entrenched hypocrisy where the most degenerate, backwards-assed among us get to dictate what vices are acceptable and what are not.


That's true, but one can become dependent on anything, not just drugs.  Some people have problems with compulsive gambling.

Smoke a bit in the privacy of your own home once in awhile?  You're fine.
Baked at all hours of the day?  You probably need to put the bong down for awhile.
2014-01-06 07:41:50 PM  
2 votes:
Bill O'Reilly doesn't have MS, and he can go fark himself. Compared to the baclofen, diazepam, neurontin combo for MS when things are really going wrong, marijuana works better, has fewer icky-feeling side effects, and is far less detrimental to my health. When Bill O graduates second in his class from Johns Hopkins, as did my neurologist, then I'll give him some credibility about what drugs are right/wrong for me.
2014-01-06 07:39:39 PM  
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow: EdgeRunner: There's a fundamental difference between weed and almost every other controlled substance: it doesn't require much to increase your stock, just some floor space and an interest in gardening. No lab, no brewery, no hard to procure ingredients, just sun, seeds and water. For such a minimal investment, there's always going to be smalltimers willing to sell or just share their excess supply. It also has the advantage of being easily concealed and handed off, which is why high schoolers are much more likely to pass around joints than comparatively bulky six packs of PBR. (Thus the preference for vodka in Sprite bottles instead, not that a dedicated student like myself would have known anything about such things.)

You sound like someone who's never attempted to actually grow it. To have a quality product, it takes a hell of a lot more than just "floor space and an interest in gardening". Tomatoes take floorspace and an interest in gardening, and yet there's a massive fruit and vegetable market out there. Yes some people will grow, but it will be a very, very small minority. And the punishments for illegally selling will match those of alcohol and other regulated substances. And most people don't want that kind of heat.

Of course use among underage kids is not going to disappear, but I can also say it won't see an increase in use. Those that want to try it will try it (same as now), and those that don't, won't. People can always find a way. Like I said, it was easier to get weed than alcohol, but I was still able to get alcohol.


Anyone sensible that has kids or spent anytime around teenagers would much rather see them getting stoned and parking their asses than driving drunk down the highway, fighting, or some sh*t.
2014-01-06 07:34:22 PM  
2 votes:

EdgeRunner: There's a fundamental difference between weed and almost every other controlled substance: it doesn't require much to increase your stock, just some floor space and an interest in gardening. No lab, no brewery, no hard to procure ingredients, just sun, seeds and water. For such a minimal investment, there's always going to be smalltimers willing to sell or just share their excess supply. It also has the advantage of being easily concealed and handed off, which is why high schoolers are much more likely to pass around joints than comparatively bulky six packs of PBR. (Thus the preference for vodka in Sprite bottles instead, not that a dedicated student like myself would have known anything about such things.)


You sound like someone who's never attempted to actually grow it. To have a quality product, it takes a hell of a lot more than just "floor space and an interest in gardening". Tomatoes take floorspace and an interest in gardening, and yet there's a massive fruit and vegetable market out there. Yes some people will grow, but it will be a very, very small minority. And the punishments for illegally selling will match those of alcohol and other regulated substances. And most people don't want that kind of heat.

Of course use among underage kids is not going to disappear, but I can also say it won't see an increase in use. Those that want to try it will try it (same as now), and those that don't, won't. People can always find a way. Like I said, it was easier to get weed than alcohol, but I was still able to get alcohol.
2014-01-06 07:30:02 PM  
2 votes:

bigdog1960: Is O'Reilly still a thing? He wrote a book on Jesus for Christ's sake. When I think about knowing Jesus, I think Bill O'Reilly. Well co-authored.


No, I'm pretty sure he wrote it for his own sake.

// like Sue Anthony said, ain't it something how god always seems to agree with those who scream "his" word loudest
2014-01-06 07:27:45 PM  
2 votes:
i512.photobucket.com
2014-01-06 07:22:57 PM  
2 votes:
I'm not a hateful person, but I imagine I may celebrate a bit when this asshole bites it.
2014-01-06 07:16:43 PM  
2 votes:

EdgeRunner: I've got no problem with legalizing weed for adults, but trying to argue "we're doing it for the children" is laughably dumb.


I don't think anyone has said to legalize it "for the children". The opponents say "keep it criminalized for the children", but no one actually thinks kids should be smoking. His argument was that it cuts off one supply chain to the kids (which is true). It may open it up to kids pinching nugs off their parents stash, but that's the parent's fault and they should've been watching their shiat, and their kid, better.

Dragonflew: I have heard black market prices from several friends in the U.S., and they range from pricey to OMGWTF. Is the government stuff cheaper than black market weed in Colorado? What is the going rate for a quarter oz?


At least in CO, it started at the street market rate ($35-$45/eighth), but skyrocketed by the end of the day/day 2 because of a quickly dwindling supply (up to $60). As it evens out and more supply comes in, it'll drop back down, probably below street level. Which I think people are fine with because I would much rather walk into a shop and have a nice selection than have to go to my friend's skeevy apartment complex to pick some up.

And just for comparison, it's $60-$80 in Texas for the same quality and amount that you would get in CO.
2014-01-06 07:11:02 PM  
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow:  Regulate it, and make it cheaper than the black market to cut them out. When they can't support themselves selling weed, they'll either stop or try to find something else. People of legal age are able to buy it and keep the legal shops open, and street dealers won't be able to stay in the black market game off what the middle/high school teens are buying.


Making it cheaper than the black market is imperative or else they will just continue to deal. I imagine they will anyway.

I have heard black market prices from several friends in the U.S., and they range from pricey to OMGWTF. Is the government stuff cheaper than black market weed in Colorado? What is the going rate for a quarter oz?

/from Canada, the land of cheap and powerful weed
2014-01-06 06:58:40 PM  
2 votes:
How does Bill reconcile (Soviet style) command economic decisions like prohibition with his free market demand economic rhetoric? Is he blind, or just dissonant?
2014-01-06 06:57:39 PM  
2 votes:
And next year when Colorado legislators ask themselves "What do we do with all this extra revenue from the pot tax", Bill O will ask why they haven't cut taxes yet.
2014-01-06 06:55:28 PM  
2 votes:

EdgeRunner: Marcus Aurelius: The only reason children have unfettered access to pot is because it's illegal, you pinhead.

I... have no idea what this means. How do kids have "unfettered" access to a restricted - aka fettered - substance? Are you suggesting that making something more readily available somehow makes it harder for kids to get hold of it? Do you really think it's easier for a child to get weed than beer or cough syrup? And even if weed was legalized in every state, don't you realize it would still be illegal for children to purchase?

In the great "Bill O'Reilly is a big dummy for saying all potheads are pinheads" debate, you're a living, breathing "You're Not Helping" jpg.


He's saying that kids haven't had any trouble getting this illegal substance because the black market is so huge.  I can't think of any kids from my days as a kid who didn't have opportunities to get marijuana from multiple sources starting around junior high.  Heh.  High.  Heh heh.  Junior high.  When every source for a popular thing are illegal, there are a lot of sources.

When a legal outlet is provided for a previously illegal product, the illegal outlets will be reduced.

Of course, it was plenty easy to get alcohol as a kid so that kinda kills the point he was trying to make.
2014-01-06 06:52:59 PM  
2 votes:

Radioactive Ass: yanceylebeef: vernonFL: there has been a spike in ER visits of children who ate their parents pot candy or cookies.

Parents, please be careful.

Wrong.

A Google search of "ER visits of children who ate their parents marijuana" gave me several hits from major media outlets. Here's the top hit from CBS, there are several others including some from Washington State reporting the same thing.

Laxer marijuana laws linked to increase in kids' accidental poisonings

Simple logic says that with the increased manufacture and sale of food laced with marijuana that kids see as treats dictates that there will be more kids eating those treats by accident, or on purpose not unlike sneaking a drink from the folks liquor cabinet.


No. "Simple" logic says nothing and stop trying to act as her vessel, you suck at it.
2014-01-06 06:45:47 PM  
2 votes:

fickenchucker: Why is it fashionable to push for legalization of pot, yet cigarette smoking has been deemed the great Satan and slowly crept closer to being outlawed?  Study after study shows no net monetary loss to society from smoking, but it's held as a given in many quarters making it harder to smoke will "lower the strain on the medical system".


Smoking cigarettes have been cited as a cancer risk.  Marijuana generally has not (studies have conflicted more regarding the subject).

And while having people die in their 50s and 60s from smoking may place less of a strain on medical and pension systems long-term, I think most people would like it if grandma and grampa were around for a few decades longer.

Personally, I'd like to see the difference in cancer rates from people who smoke cigarettes, people who pipe smoke unadulterated modern tobacco varieties, people who pipe smoke unadulterated heritage tobacco varieties and people who pipe smoke marijuana.  I'd also like to know if water filtration reduces the cancer rate for any of them.
2014-01-06 06:37:58 PM  
2 votes:
s2.quickmeme.com
2014-01-06 06:23:33 PM  
2 votes:

bronyaur1: Does anyone with an IQ above 90 and free from mental illness pay any attention to this entertainer?

This is a guy who hosted some celebrity gossip show.


Nope. Unfortunately, the average american has an iq somewhere between creationist and dirty sock filled with semen.
2014-01-06 05:21:25 PM  
2 votes:

Mugato: bronyaur1: Does anyone with an IQ above 90 and free from mental illness pay any attention to this entertainer?

That's what I don't get, who listens to this person?


People who want to be outraged but aren't sure at what until they're told.
2014-01-06 05:12:12 PM  
2 votes:

vernonFL: there has been a spike in ER visits of children who ate their parents pot candy or cookies.

Parents, please be careful.


Perhaps edibles are not the right delivery method for those folks.
2014-01-06 05:10:47 PM  
2 votes:
there has been a spike in ER visits of children who ate their parents pot candy or cookies.

Parents, please be careful.
2014-01-06 05:02:25 PM  
2 votes:
Well then!  I'll just have to regard his opinion on this in the same way I regard his other opinions!

Not at all.  I don't need another cranky old uncle who thinks he knows it all.
2014-01-06 04:54:59 PM  
2 votes:
Does anyone with an IQ above 90 and free from mental illness pay any attention to this entertainer?

This is a guy who hosted some celebrity gossip show.
2014-01-06 04:19:41 PM  
2 votes:
However, the veritable cornucopia of pharmaceuticals Bill's geriatric audience is perpetually ripped to the tits on is perfectly ok.

Children can't possibly be influenced by or obtain any of those perfectly legal heroin and morphine derived pills cluttering up grandpa's medicine cabinet.

Right Bill?
2014-01-07 11:19:31 AM  
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: MSFT: ZeroCorpse: People who occasionally use marijuana? Usually fine. They can talk about other stuff, function without it, and don't make it the point of their lives.

Potheads? Yeah, they're pinheads. They're only interesting to other potheads. They can't stop talking about weed. They have stupid ideas that they think are original and/or clever when they're neither. They obsess about marijuana and getting high. They're pinheads. In fact, I think they're worse than alcoholics... At least alcoholics talk about something other than booze.

I think you're referring to children in general. I know an astounding number of adults who regularly smoke pot, and no one discusses it at all unless it's to buy more or step outside and smoke a quick one. Back in high school? Sure, some were potheads. Haven't seen one that you describe in >25 years, though.


To be honest, I haven't either... but then I haven't hung around potheads since high school. However, I sure see a lot of them online, and they sure like to talk about weed. About legalizing weed. About growing weed. About legalizing hemp so they can have a shirt made of hemp and get some legal weed. About moving to Colorado to smoke weed. About taking a trip to Amsterdam to smoke weed. About eating brownies with weed in them. About 420-this and Ann Arbor's Hash Bash that. About "smoke weed every day" and about drawing pot leaves on everything.

So no... I haven't actually been around any of these people since high school, but I know they're out there. And they're pinheads.


You're describing teenage potheads.  Or, really, insert your favorite descriptive noun after teenager and the results would be very similar.  Really breaking ground with your "many teenagers are pinheads" assertion, way to go.
2014-01-06 11:37:32 PM  
1 votes:
I am not a fan of pot. I don't really like the effect. I don't really like the smell even. It's not a drug that I'm all that into, not even the occasional toke at a party, and I'm a chef, which means I pretty much work with folks who smoke every dang day. Some of the best chefs I've worked with toked. Brilliantly talented folks.

My dislike for the stuff, however, doesn't impede my wanting to see us end a campaign started by a guy who wanted to defend his paper empire from the corticator and cheap competition from hemp for paper. I want to see us end this ridiculous war on drugs that only lines the pockets of those who profit from seizures, who profit from a prison industry, and who keep the country from utilizing a crop that can produce not just a drug, but also paper, cloth, even animal feed. It's uses far outweigh the recreational properties, and that means more money for folks who will utilize it. It also means less money spent in our courts, in our jails, in our prisons, and with the savings, and revenue generated, we could actually see a very real economic ripple that can kick start a lot of very legal, very taxable, and very lucrative enterprises.

Legal weed means not just folks sitting at home toking it up, and listening to Dark Side of the Moon for hours on end, but jobs. It means that our legal system may catch a break, and our police can be tasked to far better things.

The war on pot goes back a long ways. It was once considered so vile and despicable that it would cause folks to go kill crazy. A few years later it was a scourge because it would make American youth too pacific to fight our wars--and oddly enough, that statement was made by the same guy who testified in the first place to criminalize the stuff because it was so crazy making. It is a host of excuses to essentially KEEP competition out of the marketplace.

That's all.

Not because it's dangerous. Not because it's terrible. But because it would cost cotton, timber, and even corn and other feed producers money in competition. The Navy has an exception to hemp use, because the stuff is that damn useful. The crop is useful in ways far beyond just smoking the stuff, and its economic value is far more than just rolled up or vaporized. And THAT is the real crime. Years of R&D gone, years of economic gains, years of wasted lives in the pursuit of the protection of industries that fear competition.

I'm not a fan of the stuff, but go ahead and smoke. I don't care. I do care that we've wasted a lot of tax dollars, lives, and man hours on protecting industries that feared competition from a plant, and a machine that would make its harvest profitable on a large scale. That it spawned a host of corrupt legislation, that it spawned an unconscionable waste of time and human life is even more so. Because people were afraid that their market shares would suffer competition. That's all. All the rest? Those were excuses to justify this mess. And that is what should keep folks up at night.
2014-01-06 11:22:14 PM  
1 votes:
I'm fine with pot, hells, all drugs legalized so long as it's strictly regulated and whatnot. If you're a failure of evolution and want to snort Drano, have a bottle on me.

Far too many people on this planet and so long as we can profit off you killing yourself and you doing so doesn't so much as impact one other soul seeing the next day, here's to you!

(Note, I don't think pot is going to kill anyone, but hey, let's open the floodgate to crack, meth, heroin, krokodil, angel dust, whatever! So long as you do it in your home by yourselves and don't bother anyone, go for it.)
2014-01-06 11:21:17 PM  
1 votes:

BigOle8point: EdgeRunner: BigOle8point: Confirmed for idiot

Geez, man. I thought pot smokers were all mellow and cool. Why are the Fark brand usually so thin-skinned and humorless?

/get a new dealer, dude. Your current supplier must be suckering you with oregano.

There's your problem. You thought. You thought you knew what you were talking about before. You thought you could come here and post all the BS that has been fed to you and sound like you know what you are talking about.

Take a step back and look around at the world through your own eyes once in a while. Don't take everything at face value. And if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't try. In the end, it just makes you look like an idiot.


Seriously man, what the hell ARE you smoking? It's like you're 'roid raging here.

/could be steroids, could be hemorroids. Whatever you're having, none for me, thanks.
2014-01-06 10:34:45 PM  
1 votes:

bluecamel: phrawgh: bluecamel: phrawgh: bluecamel: phrawgh: bluecamel: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: bluecamel: Are you farking kidding me? Did you forget about usury then? Why focus on drugs? Could we once talk about the things that actually farking matter?

Pretty sure that was a quote from the Duck Dynasty guy with a word or two swapped out.

Well, sorry, I ignored everything to do with that asshat :/

Weak. I love people who brag about ignoring other Farkers. LOL

/I ought to sponsor him for TotalFark. That would show him LOL

If you read my response it's pretty obvious that I didn't know. Sorry to interrupt your ego show.

I thought I read it. I'll pray for you. Have a blessed day (and stay away from dope).

Jesus...forgive my Fark-noobity but who knew the O'Reilly article would bring out the raging dickbags?

Welcome to my favorites list!

Greeaaat...I caught a psycho...


We're all psychos. Welcometofark.jpg and all that.
2014-01-06 09:55:34 PM  
1 votes:

Ima4nic8or: I don't agree with O'Rielly on much of anything but in this case he is right.


Except when it comes to facts, he's completely wrong. But don't let me interrupt your confirmation bias.
2014-01-06 09:55:14 PM  
1 votes:

bluecamel: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: bluecamel: Are you farking kidding me? Did you forget about usury then? Why focus on drugs? Could we once talk about the things that actually farking matter?

Pretty sure that was a quote from the Duck Dynasty guy with a word or two swapped out.

Well, sorry, I ignored everything to do with that asshat :/


Weak. I love people who brag about ignoring other Farkers. LOL

/I ought to sponsor him for TotalFark. That would show him LOL
2014-01-06 09:48:30 PM  
1 votes:

bluecamel: Are you farking kidding me? Did you forget about usury then? Why focus on drugs? Could we once talk about the things that actually farking matter?


Pretty sure that was a quote from the Duck Dynasty guy with a word or two swapped out.
2014-01-06 09:25:00 PM  
1 votes:
2014-01-06 09:16:28 PM  
1 votes:
Better to be a pothead than a crackpot like your viewers Bill.
2014-01-06 09:15:50 PM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: macadamnut: I've just poisoned myself with a glass of scotch. Shiat.

Yep, you sure did. I plan on doing the same later on tonight. There's a reason for the old saw of asking someone "What's your poison?" when offering them a drink.



Oh shut the fark up. My people were drinking and smoking 40,000 years before Washington and Jefferson betrayed their rightful king and set up this super-sized banana republic so they could keep their African sex-slaves. It has no legal jurisdiction over inborn and inalienable human recreational or dietary activities in any case. The drug laws are illegal, enacted and enforced corruptly, un-democratically and in bad faith. The argument is moot. Good day sir.
2014-01-06 08:46:57 PM  
1 votes:
fickenchucker: Why is it fashionable to push for legalization of pot, yet cigarette smoking has been deemed the great Satan and slowly crept closer to being outlawed?
Study after study shows no net monetary loss to society from smoking, but it's held as a given in many quarters making it harder to smoke will "lower the strain on the medical system".


I think we all know exactly how dangerous smoking cigarettes is (though I don't think it should be outlawed, and it most likely won't be anytime soon).  As for fashion, I don't think the majority of people speaking up and changing laws around the country are doing it because it's the hip thing to do.  But nice try at belittling their work.

This has nothing to do with "net monetary loss" or "strain on the medical system" or whatever the hell else you're bloviating about.  Prohibition of alcohol didn't work, prohibition of everything else isn't working either.  Insane incarceration rates leading to a bloated for-profit prison system, black markets with all they entail, and people spending years behind bars for partaking in something far less dangerous than many other legal, readily available intoxicants are just a few of the reasons this modern prohibition has to end.  Should people be killed and incarcerated to stop other adults from smoking a plant that they're going to smoke anyway?
2014-01-06 08:25:36 PM  
1 votes:

advex101: So it's ok to say pinhead but NOT ok to say retarded.  That's retarded.

FTFM

2014-01-06 08:21:28 PM  
1 votes:
So it's ok to say pinhead but ok to say retarded.  That's retarded.
2014-01-06 08:19:50 PM  
1 votes:

mbillips: I'm not a big fan of weed, because I'm not allowed to smoke it (been piss-tested by the Navy since I was 19), and because stoned people are kind of boring. Witty people get wittier on booze (up to a point), whereas pot smokers just grin and giggle a lot. I know you supposedly have a really good time talking about stupid BS when you're stoned, but sheesh, you're really no fun for the rest of us.

That said, soft drugs like pot should be legal, and use of hard drugs should be decriminalized. Addiction's a medical problem, not a criminal one.


I love this comment.  It's very illustrative.
2014-01-06 08:12:00 PM  
1 votes:
I think that we can all agree that our children are much, much better off being in prison than smoking the occasional joint.
2014-01-06 08:11:25 PM  
1 votes:
chasd00:
i call bs on the last point, by your logic there would be no underage drinking.

and yes it is a problem in Europe
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25047079


Fun fact: In Alberta the drinking age is 18 but you can give your own kids alcohol in you own residence or temporary residence (RV, hotel room, etc.).  No lower limit.  That's how to get your 2 year old to sleep! ;-p  There are similar, although varying, rules for underage drinking in most provinces.  Anyhow it's completely legit to give your 14 year-old a small glass of wine with family dinner or a taste of beer in you own back yard.  OMG think of the children!  BTW there is no better way to get your kids to lay off something than to make it seem it is cool and normal for their parents to do it and encourage it.
2014-01-06 08:07:03 PM  
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doctor wu: Weaver95: Pot isn't toxic tho, nor is it addictive. Hells, caffeine is more addictive than cannabis. But hey, if the GOP wants to divide their time, money and manpower to fighting legalization of cannabis AND stopping gay marriage AND repealing Obamacare AND cutting welfare benefits AND making abortion illegal...then who am I to stop them?

Perhaps not in a chemical sense, like harder drugs, but there are plenty of people who are extremely dependant on weed. Maybe it"s more of a psychological thing, but someone who smokes weed all day every day is dependant. Having said that, I completely support legalization. It's time to end the deeply entrenched hypocrisy where the most degenerate, backwards-assed among us get to dictate what vices are acceptable and what are not.


It's 100% a psychological thing. Yes people can become mentally addicted to pot, the same way they can become addicted to video games, gambling, the internet, sports, etc. It does not create any sort of physical dependence or addiction, which is very different. You can stop smoking completely and be physically fine. You can't say that about a lot of other drugs out there, including legal ones.
2014-01-06 07:59:29 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Pot isn't toxic tho, nor is it addictive. Hells, caffeine is more addictive than cannabis. But hey, if the GOP wants to divide their time, money and manpower to fighting legalization of cannabis AND stopping gay marriage AND repealing Obamacare AND cutting welfare benefits AND making abortion illegal...then who am I to stop them?


Perhaps not in a chemical sense, like harder drugs, but there are plenty of people who are extremely dependant on weed. Maybe it"s more of a psychological thing, but someone who smokes weed all day every day is dependant. Having said that, I completely support legalization. It's time to end the deeply entrenched hypocrisy where the most degenerate, backwards-assed among us get to dictate what vices are acceptable and what are not.
2014-01-06 07:48:04 PM  
1 votes:
Weaver95:
if they take enough cannabis, they'll pass out on their own!

Just trying to give the benefit of the doubt.  I could see how symptoms of marijuana intoxication in a child, particularly WAY too much, would be alarming to parents, even if there is no real risk of life.  Of course, as has been mentioned it's also irresponsible to leave a loaded gun or dangerous cleaning chemicals where a child could get to them.  Plus what kind of idiot doesn't keep their stash out of reach of children?  That stuff isn't cheap!
2014-01-06 07:44:59 PM  
1 votes:
dr_blasto:
This stuff has been happening since people figured out they could bake magic brownies. The only spike is the OMG CHILDREN types - although some of the gummi bears and the like may be a bit riskier to keep in your house if you have kids, ...

Now these are gummi bears you don't want to leave laying around your house!
2014-01-06 07:32:16 PM  
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JoieD'Zen: Bill really, really needs a few tokes to take the edge off.


--- Yeah he needs to find out what he's actually talking about.
2014-01-06 07:32:05 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: um...do you know how much pot you have to consume before it becomes toxic?


Poisoning doesn't always mean that the substance is toxic. It also means that a substance that has chemical effects on the body was taken either accidentally or on purpose.

Here let me help you out there:

Poisoning occurs when any substance interferes with normal body functions after it is swallowed, inhaled, injected, or absorbed.

That substance doesn't have to be toxic for the term poisoning to apply when it comes to how hospitals report accidental poisonings (which is specifically what I was referring to).
rka
2014-01-06 07:28:25 PM  
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Dragonflew: See, that is just insane.


And the people said "Don't care, legal weed".

As with many other things, people can see the cost of everything, but the value of nothing.

There is value in walking into a store and buying weed versus calling "a guy you know".
2014-01-06 07:16:16 PM  
1 votes:
If things are the same now as they were when I was in school, their first time buying legally a lot of kids are going to find out they've been getting ripped off on quantity/quality for years.
2014-01-06 07:14:52 PM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: Empty H: No. "Simple" logic says nothing and stop trying to act as her vessel, you suck at it.

Then perhaps you can find a better explanation for the increase in accidental marijuana poisonings involving little kids getting into their parents marijuana laced foodstuffs that doesn't involve an increase in the availability of same.


Perhaps parents are less afraid to take their "poisoned" children to the hospital.
2014-01-06 07:12:27 PM  
1 votes:
i2.kym-cdn.com

suck on my colon, bill.

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www.geekosystem.com
1mut.com
2014-01-06 07:11:59 PM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: Empty H: No. "Simple" logic says nothing and stop trying to act as her vessel, you suck at it.

Then perhaps you can find a better explanation for the increase in accidental marijuana poisonings involving little kids getting into their parents marijuana laced foodstuffs that doesn't involve an increase in the availability of same.


um...do you know how much pot you have to consume before it becomes toxic?
2014-01-06 07:05:24 PM  
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Dinjiin: EdgeRunner: I... have no idea what this means. How do kids have "unfettered" access to a restricted - aka fettered - substance? Are you suggesting that making something more readily available somehow makes it harder for kids to get hold of it? Do you really think it's easier for a child to get weed than beer or cough syrup? And even if weed was legalized in every state, don't you realize it would still be illegal for children to purchase?

The argument is that if you legalize it, the government can have some control in how it is distributed.  Once it is illegal, the government loses control since sales will move to the underground market.  After all, a street dealer will usually sell it to anyone.  A state monitored marijuana dispensary will not.


Meaning that underage users will still have to rely on illegal suppliers and "borrowed" samples from their parents' stashes, and the second source will increase considerably. I've got no problem with legalizing weed for adults, but trying to argue "we're doing it for the children" is laughably dumb.
2014-01-06 06:59:26 PM  
1 votes:
Hey guise what's going on in this thread?

www.toonopedia.com
2014-01-06 06:58:41 PM  
1 votes:
Bill O is ok with people kidnapping and raping kids though.
2014-01-06 06:53:46 PM  
1 votes:

EdgeRunner: I... have no idea what this means. How do kids have "unfettered" access to a restricted - aka fettered - substance? Are you suggesting that making something more readily available somehow makes it harder for kids to get hold of it? Do you really think it's easier for a child to get weed than beer or cough syrup? And even if weed was legalized in every state, don't you realize it would still be illegal for children to purchase?


The argument is that if you legalize it, the government can have some control in how it is distributed.  Once it is illegal, the government loses control since sales will move to the underground market.  After all, a street dealer will usually sell it to anyone.  A state monitored marijuana dispensary will not.
2014-01-06 06:49:42 PM  
1 votes:
data1.whicdn.com
2014-01-06 06:49:10 PM  
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chasd00: i call bs on the last point, by your logic there would be no underage drinking.


Didn't say that it would disappear.  I said that the rate would go down.

Hide your drugs, meds and booze when you have kids.  Or better, keep it under lock and key.  If people started doing that, it would be harder for kids to get access to it.
2014-01-06 06:45:55 PM  
1 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I remember my time as a youth, and if there was anything that was impossible for me to get my hands on, it was a bag of weed.

It's pretty much unheard of for a child to even know who to ask for such a thing.


I'm glad our long national nightmare of prohibition is about to end.  It will be nice to be able to score what I want when I want it rather than waiting for some guy who has a bag of whatever.

Not that I expect things to be perfect, seems like an immediate shortage, but in a year the supply chain will stabilize and things will get to a pretty much normal situation.  When prohibition of alcohol ended, there was a huge supply of liquor in storage right across the borders and probably in warehouses in the states so that the pent-up demand was met with approprate supply.  In this case, the supply was artifically constrained, and the market was of course, grossly underestimated by the pants-wetters who set the rules.

Basic economics and supply side issues.

And yea, starting in Jr. High School, weed was always around if you wanted it, and college was pretty good but that was way back in last century, times have changed apparently.  My kid is 30 and admits that when he was in HS, that weed was MUCH easier to come by than booze.
2014-01-06 06:40:57 PM  
1 votes:
Speaking as a member of the Mexican Drug Cartel, Bill O'Reilly has some good points.
2014-01-06 06:36:37 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Pot isn't toxic tho, nor is it addictive.


It isn't addictive, but people sure can become dependent on it.


fusillade762: So we should continue to lock people up because children might get ahold of some and idiots might drive on it? Well that's certainly the Small Government solution.


Just wait till they get the idea to start locking up people who have a bottle of Oxycontin or Vicodin in their medicine cabinet that is beyond its use-by date.


Mugato: That's what I don't get, who listens to this person?


People who are angry.  People who see the world going by and feel victimized by the changes.  So mostly old white men.


Marcus Aurelius: The only reason children have unfettered access to pot is because it's illegal, you pinhead.


No shiat.  Take away the black market and remind adults to hide their stash when living with kids and watch access plummet as the street dealers disappear.  Long term, I expect usage to go down as its cool factor goes down, just as it has in the Netherlands.

The hardest part will be to get people to hide their stash.  People already seem to have that problem with Rx drugs.  Just raising awareness should help on both counts, though.
2014-01-06 06:35:38 PM  
1 votes:
dopamineproject.org
2014-01-06 06:34:48 PM  
1 votes:
Why is it fashionable to push for legalization of pot, yet cigarette smoking has been deemed the great Satan and slowly crept closer to being outlawed?

Study after study shows no net monetary loss to society from smoking, but it's held as a given in many quarters making it harder to smoke will "lower the strain on the medical system".
2014-01-06 06:33:04 PM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: Weaver95: Pot isn't toxic tho, nor is it addictive. Hells, caffeine is more addictive than cannabis. But hey, if the GOP wants to divide their time, money and manpower to fighting legalization of cannabis AND stopping gay marriage AND repealing Obamacare AND cutting welfare benefits AND making abortion illegal...then who am I to stop them?

Oh yeah, what about the 37 people who died from pot overdoses in Colorado?


That's  15 fewer killings than Bill O'Reilly's army of ghostwriters have penned  in the last 6 months.

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 media.npr.org

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2014-01-06 06:28:41 PM  
1 votes:
Ah, the days on Fox News when Glenn Beck made Bill O'Reilly seem like the voice of sanity.
2014-01-06 06:28:16 PM  
1 votes:

dr_blasto: fusillade762: So we should continue to lock people up because children might get ahold of some and idiots might drive on it? Well that's certainly the Small Government solution.


vernonFL: there has been a spike in ER visits of children who ate their parents pot candy or cookies.

Parents, please be careful.

Citation needed.

This stuff has been happening since people figured out they could bake magic brownies. The only spike is the OMG CHILDREN types - although some of the gummi bears and the like may be a bit riskier to keep in your house if you have kids, but what the hell, kids are killed by shooting themselves or others with loaded guns left unsecured, so this shiat isn't unheard of.


I wasn't questioning whether it happens, I was questioning whether or not there has actually been a "spike".
2014-01-06 06:25:38 PM  
1 votes:
So are people who get tattoos, but they aren't illegal
2014-01-06 06:21:33 PM  
1 votes:
As long as it isn't a gateway to more harmful things, i.e. the purchase of a Phish record, who gives a fark?
2014-01-06 06:21:05 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: So we should continue to lock people up because children might get ahold of some and idiots might drive on it? Well that's certainly the Small Government solution.


vernonFL: there has been a spike in ER visits of children who ate their parents pot candy or cookies.

Parents, please be careful.

Citation needed.


FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:SO YOU THINK "POT" IS HARMLESS?! PARENTS READ THIS IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN!!!1
2014-01-06 06:20:33 PM  
1 votes:
Just hand him a joint and tell him its one of those felafel things.

farm7.staticflickr.com
2014-01-06 06:18:35 PM  
1 votes:

nekom: propasaurus: Weaver95: Pot isn't toxic tho, nor is it addictive. Hells, caffeine is more addictive than cannabis. But hey, if the GOP wants to divide their time, money and manpower to fighting legalization of cannabis AND stopping gay marriage AND repealing Obamacare AND cutting welfare benefits AND making abortion illegal...then who am I to stop them?

Oh yeah, what about the 37 people who died from pot overdoses in Colorado?

Or this poor guy:
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Is that a young Jay Leno?
2014-01-06 06:17:04 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: So we should continue to lock people up because children might get ahold of some and idiots might drive on it? Well that's certainly the Small Government solution.


vernonFL: there has been a spike in ER visits of children who ate their parents pot candy or cookies.

Parents, please be careful.

Citation needed.


This stuff has been happening since people figured out they could bake magic brownies. The only spike is the OMG CHILDREN types - although some of the gummi bears and the like may be a bit riskier to keep in your house if you have kids, but what the hell, kids are killed by shooting themselves or others with loaded guns left unsecured, so this shiat isn't unheard of.
2014-01-06 05:09:57 PM  
1 votes:

bronyaur1: Does anyone with an IQ above 90 and free from mental illness pay any attention to this entertainer?


That's what I don't get, who listens to this person?
2014-01-06 05:06:49 PM  
1 votes:
I just met a nurse that I could go for.
2014-01-06 03:59:22 PM  
1 votes:
That's probably the nicest thing Bill has ever called me.
2014-01-06 03:46:40 PM  
1 votes:
are we getting high yet?

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