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(The Raw Story)   I'll see your Ten Commandments monument and raise you this 7-foot tall statue of the Satanic Goat-Lord Baphomet   (rawstory.com) divider line 264
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2014-01-06 10:12:19 PM
Looks like Joe Camel got a new gig.
 
2014-01-06 10:14:17 PM
Personally, I am disappointed they are displaying all 15 commandments.
 
2014-01-06 10:17:23 PM

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


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2014-01-06 10:18:57 PM

Cagey B: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

The Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people seem to have a far better grasp on what religious freedom means under the Constitution.


What more Satanists, and FSM people don't have laws in the books banning large displays like these.
 
2014-01-06 10:39:29 PM

letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.


That's ok, Christians aren't people.
 
2014-01-06 10:40:34 PM
This is just douchery.  The Ten Commandments span two major world religions and are seen as a historic source of law and have historical context in this country.  They would be out of place in a courthouse in Japan just like this dumb thing is out of place in America, especially Oklahoma.

If a bunch of whiny farkers decided to set out on their own and setup Fark-Snarkistan it would be entirely appropriate to have monuments to the FSM in front of their buildings.
 
2014-01-06 10:41:26 PM
To be completely honest to the "Foundations of Western Civilization" bit that folks trot out every time the Ten Commandments comes up, I agree, partially.  Western Civilization does owe a large debt to the Judaic Tradition symbolized by the Ten Commandments. HOWEVER it is as equally indebted to the pagan Greco-Roman world for the traditions of rational philosophical inquiry and(Greeks) and the rule of law (Romans). Therefore, next to the Ten Commandments should be statues of Athena and Justitia. With their knockers bare in good old pagan fashion, just to bind up the knickers of John Ashcroft et al.
 
2014-01-06 10:44:11 PM

thotpoizn: or whatever other mob of the righteously indignant


It's always on the non-Christians to act as Christ wanted people to, not his actual followers.

Funny thing, that.

/cry harder
//wasn't going to donate before, but will after reading your post
///love and kisses from Washington
 
2014-01-06 10:47:55 PM

Harold_of_the_Rocks: To be completely honest to the "Foundations of Western Civilization" bit that folks trot out every time the Ten Commandments comes up, I agree, partially.  Western Civilization does owe a large debt to the Judaic Tradition symbolized by the Ten Commandments. HOWEVER it is as equally indebted to the pagan Greco-Roman world for the traditions of rational philosophical inquiry and(Greeks) and the rule of law (Romans). Therefore, next to the Ten Commandments should be statues of Athena and Justitia. With their knockers bare in good old pagan fashion, just to bind up the knickers of John Ashcroft et al.


You are right.  And I bet Christians won't care a little bit if some Roman goddess of justice were in front of a courthouse.  Ask me how I know this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice
 
2014-01-06 10:48:37 PM

CivicMindedFive: The Ten Commandments span two major world religions and are seen as a historic source of law


What law? Of the Ten Commandments, only "thou shalt not kill" and "thou shalt not steal" are illegal, and they are illegal in every culture no matter if they've heard of Moses or not. That's silly.

You could make an argument about bearing false witness on your neighbor, but a good attorney can get you out of that one usually.
 
2014-01-06 10:50:34 PM

NephilimNexus: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

That's ok, Christians aren't people.


True and they don't even follow their own so called religion.

/Oh and letrole: I'm liking this seemingly new/newer talkative thing lately definitely more interesting and more fun.
 
2014-01-06 10:51:00 PM

redrumten: Telethon to raise money for the new monument to air on HSN!

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And a slothful child shall lead them.
 
2014-01-06 10:52:57 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: How about erecting a monument to an Elder God?


I approve of this idea
 
2014-01-06 10:55:43 PM
By the way, most of the Ten Commandments are stupid. Don't tell me what to do on Sunday, asshole.
 
2014-01-06 10:56:52 PM

Confabulat: By the way, most of the Ten Commandments are stupid. Don't tell me what to do on Sunday Saturday, asshole.


/FTFY
 
2014-01-06 10:59:20 PM
Walter Paisley: To be fair, not all forms of Satanism are necessarily defined by Christianity. There are forms of theistic Satanism that view Satan as more of a pagan god that predated Judaism and Christianity. The name Satan is also sometimes interpreted as a bastardization of one of the titles of the Egyptian god Set, that being Set-an (if my memory serves me, this title means "Set is mighty"). Some taking a soft approach to polytheism might also view Satan as a cultural mask of a dark solar god present in many ancient religions and associate him with gods such as Set, Dionysos, Nergal, etc...

I don't doubt someone out there thinks that etymology is reasonable, but it's no secret that "satan" is just a Hebrew word for "adversary".  This is how it's used in the OT, both in reference to an Adversary and in reference to ordinary people standing against something.
 
2014-01-06 11:00:03 PM
Why would christians be opposed to a statue of satan. He's their supervillan.

Or are they willing to admit that he doesn't actually exist, a fictional character in a book of myths.

They can't have it both ways.
 
2014-01-06 11:03:17 PM

phrawgh: Confabulat: By the way, most of the Ten Commandments are stupid. Don't tell me what to do on Sunday Saturday, asshole.

/FTFY


yeah as an outsider, i never have figured out which one of those days god really meant. I guess his followers can't decide either.
 
2014-01-06 11:05:46 PM

ReverendJasen: Badmoodman: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

This is probably where you should consult a dictionary.

Don't mind him, letrole is a pedophile.


Fond of bicycles, is he? Pervert.

I mean me. I'm a pervert.
 
2014-01-06 11:13:58 PM
CM5,you are conflating Christians with fundamentalist Dominionists. The latter believe that their interpretation of Christianity is the very foundation of our nation, not the actual Enlightenment ideals of the Constitution. In fact, they hold the Enlightenment in utter contempt because it is in their minds the root of the Satanic Manchurian Candidate of secular humanism. I sincerely doubt that if you put two equally prominent monuments to rationality and the rule of law in the form of pagan Goddesses right next to their beloved Decalogue that they wouldn't throw a major conniption fit. Ask me how I know that fundamentalists believe this? I was raised one. I got better.
 
2014-01-06 11:17:09 PM

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


The Church of Satan is actually a surprisingly compelling religion, quite serious and one most people would probably find quite agreeable in their doctrine. Despite what Hollywood would have you believe, they're not even close to stupid human sacrifice, black candles, black velvet, criminals, etc, etc. They value free will above all else, self-sufficiency, self-improvement, instead of wallowing around moaning to a deity about your fate. They see Satan as an outlier, renegade, and trailblazer and wish to emulate that example, rather than blindly tow the line of Christianity.

It's unamerican to deny any actual faith representation if you give one faith any, although some obviously aren't real faiths.
 
2014-01-07 12:08:03 AM

Terrible Old Man: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

The Church of Satan is actually a surprisingly compelling religion, quite serious and one most people would probably find quite agreeable in their doctrine. Despite what Hollywood would have you believe, they're not even close to stupid human sacrifice, black candles, black velvet, criminals, etc, etc. They value free will above all else, self-sufficiency, self-improvement, instead of wallowing around moaning to a deity about your fate. They see Satan as an outlier, renegade, and trailblazer and wish to emulate that example, rather than blindly tow the line of Christianity.

It's unamerican to deny any actual faith representation if you give one faith any, although some obviously aren't real faiths.


Yea and whoever did decide Christianity was a real religion? I mean hell most of them don't even practice what's in their own book.
 
2014-01-07 12:20:44 AM

Mugato: Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


I agree completely. These idiots aren't actually worshiping anyone, they're just jumping on the bandwagon looking for a way to force their idols onto public land. They may claim to have good intentions, but they certainly don't practice that, they just go around protesting everything they dislike and generally try to give everyone else a hard time.

But as long as enough people believe that religious texts are history books rather than story books, the government is legally obligated to accept "christianity" as an actual religion, regardless of how fake they seem.
 
2014-01-07 12:22:53 AM
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2014-01-07 12:24:12 AM

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


You don't get it at all, do you?
 
2014-01-07 12:25:28 AM
The sad thing is that the most likely outcome of these continued types of antics is that we end up with a country that's the Christian version of the Middle East.

This isn't going to play out the way you think it is.
 
2014-01-07 12:26:10 AM
The tight-buttocked, hairy-chested host of hell.
 
2014-01-07 12:28:30 AM

Close2TheEdge: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Let's see.  Christians imposing their narrow ideology on all of us by erecting a statue on a government site.  And doing so thanks to connections with conservative Christian politicians in the State House.

I think your definition of "dick" needs to be revised.


oldspouse.files.wordpress.com

Consult with an authority.
 
2014-01-07 12:31:56 AM
video game/movie series Final Fantasy 7 summon Bahamut has only roars and flames to say.
 
2014-01-07 12:32:28 AM

what_now: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville)

Listen, Earl, have you ever read the constitution? You don't even have to read the whole thing, just the first amendment.


I like how they're flat-out admitting that "faith-based" is just another code word for "Christian" now.
 
2014-01-07 12:35:20 AM

gopher321: Hail Satin!

/amidoinitrite?


It's a very comfortable and pretty fabric, sure.
 
2014-01-07 12:45:30 AM
Lee451
fusillade762:
Every time I hear someone use the phrase "That's just the way I was raised" to justify their own dickish behavior I want to punch them in the neck.

What is yourjustification for dickish behavior?


The way people saying 'just the way I was raised' were raised.
 
2014-01-07 12:51:49 AM

tjsands1118: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]
I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.


On the other hand if they did it in gold, Christians could do like Moses, melt it down, and feed it to the misguided (troll) adherents.  Where's your Satan NAAAOOOWW?!
 
2014-01-07 01:00:35 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: Weaver95: Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.

Not to mention that Lavey apparently stole a lot of his ideology from ayn rand.

Really? He stole "treat every other living thing with respect" from Ayn Rand?

You're a moran.


At least he's not so moronic he can't grasp what "a lot of" means.  Also, if Ayn Rand has nothing to do with LaVeyism, you might want to inform Wikipedia of this.
 
2014-01-07 01:01:47 AM
Mugato
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: fusillade762:
I've always loved that commandment. The idea that you can sin just by THINKING something.

In Judaism, coveting is understood to require you to take an action, like, say, sending a soldier out to die so you can take his wife for yourself. It wasn't until Christianity came along that the concept of "thought crimes" was invented. That's why Jesus makes a big deal out of the teaching that looking at a chick and wanting to bang her is as bad as banging her - it was a novel idea.

It's like "thou shall not kill" is really "thou shalt not murder" and includes a laundry list of exceptions. Those Jews sure know how to negotiate.


"Guys, I've good news and bad news. The good news is, I've negotiated Him down to ten. The bad news is, adultery is still one of them."
Kinda explains why Moses spent 40 days on that hill; scratching ten short blurbs into tablets shouldn't have taken that long.
 
2014-01-07 01:53:28 AM

tjsands1118: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]
I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.


In bronze, quenched in the blood of infants.
 
2014-01-07 01:59:04 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: RexTalionis: tinfoil-hat maggie: RexTalionis: [chinastudygroup.net image 628x799]

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Oh pretty I don't know hoe to translate that into a statue but I bet those would look nice hanging in the OK capitals foyer in a prominent place.

I also really like my White Tara statue
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Maybe something like this?

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Looks good to me : )

Oh and how could I almost forget one of my other gods.
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Nijinsky?
 
2014-01-07 02:00:19 AM
I really am astounded by the poutrage by the 'so called' Christians on this thread not to mention the looneys in Okla. But mostly for the trollists here. There is no doubt about the legitimacy of the Pagans argument here about the 1st amendment..."If YOU can do it in public then why can't I..." We used to have a saying in this country that I might disagree with what you say but I defend to the death your right to say it. Liberals still remember it. Religious fanatics and conservative seem to have forgotten it except when it benefits them...Thats why I'm proudly Liberal and always have/will been. I despise closed minded small brained decrepits! Most so called "Christians" have a lot to learn about what Christ actually said and is what is in our constitution! Open your minds you fools...
 
2014-01-07 02:18:44 AM
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2014-01-07 03:34:13 AM

dbrunker: [img.fark.net image 500x382]


You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor*

*Except when advised by your lawyer when he has coveted thy wife.
 
2014-01-07 03:57:50 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: How about erecting a monument to an Elder God?


I don't suppose you could come up with a suitable suggestion?  Any particular one you might be partial to? *wink*
 
2014-01-07 04:07:40 AM

Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.


Ayn Rand's Objectivism now with added Mumbo Jumbo.
 
2014-01-07 04:08:09 AM

Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.


So all the ten commandments displays were free?
 
2014-01-07 04:09:48 AM

Walter Paisley: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

To be fair, not all forms of Satanism are necessarily defined by Christianity. There are forms of theistic Satanism that view Satan as more of a pagan god that predated Judaism and Christianity. The name Satan is also sometimes interpreted as a bastardization of one of the titles of the Egyptian god Set, that being Set-an (if my memory serves me, this title means "Set is mighty"). Some taking a soft approach to polytheism might also view Satan as a cultural mask of a dark solar god present in many ancient religions and associate him with gods such as Set, Dionysos, Nergal, etc...


The questioner or the arguer.
 
2014-01-07 04:21:33 AM

Harold_of_the_Rocks: To be completely honest to the "Foundations of Western Civilization" bit that folks trot out every time the Ten Commandments comes up, I agree, partially.  Western Civilization does owe a large debt to the Judaic Tradition symbolized by the Ten Commandments. HOWEVER it is as equally indebted to the pagan Greco-Roman world for the traditions of rational philosophical inquiry and(Greeks) and the rule of law (Romans). Therefore, next to the Ten Commandments should be statues of Athena and Justitia. With their knockers bare in good old pagan fashion, just to bind up the knickers of John Ashcroft et al.


Meh, it looks like it all goes back to Egypt through the Minoans.



encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Ever wonder about Moses being from Eqypt?
 
2014-01-07 04:23:39 AM

ciberido: The My Little Pony Killer: Weaver95: Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.

Not to mention that Lavey apparently stole a lot of his ideology from ayn rand.

Really? He stole "treat every other living thing with respect" from Ayn Rand?

You're a moran.

At least he's not so moronic he can't grasp what "a lot of" means.  Also, if Ayn Rand has nothing to do with LaVeyism, you might want to inform Wikipedia of this.


Morans.

: a small piece of land that is or could be used for buiding something or for some other purpose

: the buildings and land that are owned by a company that makes movies and television programs

: a small object used to choose the person who will do or receive something

Next up, decimate.
 
2014-01-07 04:31:01 AM

CivicMindedFive: Harold_of_the_Rocks: To be completely honest to the "Foundations of Western Civilization" bit that folks trot out every time the Ten Commandments comes up, I agree, partially.  Western Civilization does owe a large debt to the Judaic Tradition symbolized by the Ten Commandments. HOWEVER it is as equally indebted to the pagan Greco-Roman world for the traditions of rational philosophical inquiry and(Greeks) and the rule of law (Romans). Therefore, next to the Ten Commandments should be statues of Athena and Justitia. With their knockers bare in good old pagan fashion, just to bind up the knickers of John Ashcroft et al.

You are right.  And I bet Christians won't care a little bit if some Roman goddess of justice were in front of a courthouse.  Ask me how I know this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice


www.wpclipart.com

/it all goes back to Egypt
 
2014-01-07 04:32:01 AM

Confabulat: By the way, most of the Ten Commandments are stupid. Don't tell me what to do on Sunday Saturday, asshole.

FTFY
 
2014-01-07 04:57:36 AM

Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.


There are many different kind of Satanists.  The satanic bible, printed by LeVay, is as you mention.  But there are other Satanists that do worship Satan.
 
2014-01-07 05:15:24 AM

Pointy Tail of Satan: I see your God, and raise with U235.

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Radroach carcass in alley this morning, footprint on burst stomach.
 
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