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(The Raw Story)   I'll see your Ten Commandments monument and raise you this 7-foot tall statue of the Satanic Goat-Lord Baphomet   (rawstory.com) divider line 264
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2014-01-06 05:46:34 PM  
"This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."

/So, you agree with public displays of faith, as long as it's your own, and not others. Not that i support satanism, but really, don't preach "faith" and then slap others around for having a faith that you don't agree with. Ass.
 
2014-01-06 05:47:16 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


Agreed.  I don't like the politicization of these displays, but I do realize that the ten commandments are part of the foundations of western civilization.  This is just dickish trolling.
 
2014-01-06 05:47:18 PM  
That kid is still not going to get a BB gun.
 
2014-01-06 05:47:39 PM  
a57.foxnews.com
The Satanist statue looks better - just sayin'

Anyway, when the ACLU gets done with you Oklahoma, there won't be any statue on the state house grounds.

/so take a picture, it'll last longer
 
2014-01-06 05:47:44 PM  

letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.


Dude! That was actually funny self-mockery! Great job!
 
2014-01-06 05:47:50 PM  
www.ferdyonfilms.com
 
2014-01-06 05:48:14 PM  
"This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville)

Listen, Earl, have you ever read the constitution? You don't even have to read the whole thing, just the first amendment.
 
2014-01-06 05:48:19 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."

/So, you agree with public displays of faith, as long as it's your own, and not others. Not that i support satanism, but really, don't preach "faith" and then slap others around for having a faith that you don't agree with. Ass.


The problem with assuming that your god is the one and only true god is that you develop a bit of a blind spot on the subject of faith.
 
2014-01-06 05:48:53 PM  
I am sure this will be a stepping stone to a lawsuit, and will allow the organization to have a nice crowd-funded statue when inevitably they decided to take down the commandment display instead of allowing any other displays to go up.
 
2014-01-06 05:48:55 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: Sometimes just admitting im pagan is enough to trigger seizures from some of the more fanatical Christian types. They just assume pagans all worship the devil and proceed to flip out as per normal.

Well to be fair Roman Catholics believe that Baptists worship the devil..

Really anything you worship that isn't their God is either idolatry or the devil's trickery. So all though most of them don't understand the distinction they are basically correct if you use their book. And since their book is the only one that matters (of course it is, just ask them) you are in fact worshiping the devil. You may think you're not, but you're just being tricked.

I too worship the devil. I just choose to worship the devil in the form of Milla Jovovich.


I think you have it backwards.  Baptists believe this Pope is the final Pope and anti-Christ and that Catholics worship the devil.
 
2014-01-06 05:48:56 PM  
I never know what to do during one of the few times I've met an adult who is literally scared of Satan.  I want to ask them if they still believe in the Easter Bunny.
 
2014-01-06 05:49:35 PM  

Great_Milenko: Agreed. I don't like the politicization of these displays, but I do realize that the ten commandments are part of the foundations of western civilization. This is just dickish trolling.


So was slavery.
 
2014-01-06 05:50:07 PM  
"This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said.

No.  No, it's not, you trailer-dwelling, cousin-farking, terra-cotta-toothed, subliterate peckerwood.

For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.
 
2014-01-06 05:51:29 PM  

gimmegimme: I never know what to do during one of the few times I've met an adult who is literally scared of Satan.  I want to ask them if they still believe in the Easter Bunny.


They aren't scared of Satan, they're scared that God will see them do something fun, and curse them. Very few of them truly believe that Satan has pull in the world.
 
2014-01-06 05:51:50 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said.

No.  No, it's not, you trailer-dwelling, cousin-farking, terra-cotta-toothed, subliterate peckerwood.

For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.


Sure, you could always try hitting them with facts. Who knows, maybe they'll eventually listen....but I rather doubt it.
 
2014-01-06 05:52:24 PM  

Mugato: Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


Exactly what do I need to do to make it my "actual" religion?

If I raise my children in the CotFSM, is it their "actual" religion, even if it's not mine?
 
2014-01-06 05:53:18 PM  

brandent: I think you have it backwards. Baptists believe this Pope is the final Pope and anti-Christ and that Catholics worship the devil.


Yeah but what the Baptists believe doesn't matter. They're just a bunch of satanists after all.
 
2014-01-06 05:53:56 PM  

FlashHarry: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

i love the children on either side. a nice touch.


It makes the troll too obvious though.  It is still a good troll, but this is obviously just some group doing this with a shiat eating grin, enjoying the howls and tears of entitled Christians who think they can erect religious monuments without a rebuttal from any other group.
 
2014-01-06 05:54:15 PM  
Teach the controversy!
 
2014-01-06 05:54:18 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.


You know, one of the Great Old Ones should be the next statue. I nominate  Ayi'ig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Great_Old_Ones
 
2014-01-06 05:54:44 PM  

Great_Milenko: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Agreed.  I don't like the politicization of these displays, but I do realize that the ten commandments are part of the foundations of western civilization.  This is just dickish trolling.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-06 05:54:52 PM  

letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.



True. It's usually used as a pejorative to imply someone else's religion isn't true,  but that's a pretty pedantic distinction. Everything from a Christian perspective is a pagan religion  -- Roman, Greek, Hindu, various tribal religions, animism, Protestantism, etc
 
2014-01-06 05:54:58 PM  
letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

PsiChick: Dude! That was actually funny self-mockery! Great job!

I know.

But it was a bit anti-climatic when those goobers actually replied.
 
2014-01-06 05:55:24 PM  
I used to think that back in the day trolling meant something, but these folks have really got it down! gr8 b8 m8
 
rpm
2014-01-06 05:56:20 PM  

loonatic112358: Benevolent Misanthrope: For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.

You know, one of the Great Old Ones should be the next statue. I nominate  Ayi'ig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Great_Old_Ones


So, after reading that description, that's what, Perry's hair?
 
2014-01-06 05:56:28 PM  

Weaver95: But they they're still being jerk bags about it.


Oh no, a group is being a jerk right back to a group that has been acting like jerks to them this entire time. Somebody get you a fainting couch!
 
2014-01-06 05:58:01 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

You sound like an apostate Unitarian. Have you never seen evangelical Christians acting like dicks?


Well I think his point was that the Christians are just doing as they were taught, seeing it as the Right Thing To Do rather than dickishness.

Of course, they're wrong, as their own holy book is approximately 9/10 "don't be a dick to other people" and they don't seem to have understood a word of it.
 
2014-01-06 05:59:13 PM  

Weaver95: Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.

Not to mention that Lavey apparently stole a lot of his ideology from ayn rand.


Really? He stole "treat every other living thing with respect" from Ayn Rand?

You're a moran.
 
2014-01-06 05:59:46 PM  

Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.


They're not meant to be taken seriously. The "Church of Satan" is a bunch of atheist performance artist/trolls. They don't actually believe in or worship Satan.
 
2014-01-06 06:00:10 PM  

Mugato: I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


what defines an "actual religion," pray tell? age? number of adherents? relative wackiness of its teachings?
 
2014-01-06 06:00:51 PM  
If the statue ever made it to Oklahoma it would be destroyed with bibles and 60oz Gulpies in a matter of minutes.
 
rpm
2014-01-06 06:02:14 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.

what defines an "actual religion," pray tell? age? number of adherents? relative wackiness of its teachings?


I belong to a religion, you belong to a cult, duh.
 
2014-01-06 06:02:29 PM  

letrole: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

PsiChick: Dude! That was actually funny self-mockery! Great job!

I know.

But it was a bit anti-climatic when those goobers actually replied.


I'm just still stunned you're not a bot. Nice to meet you, dude.
 
2014-01-06 06:03:05 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.

what defines an "actual religion," pray tell? age? number of adherents? relative wackiness of its teachings?


Ok, fine. Those people believe in Satan and the Flying Spaghetti Monster as fervently as the Christians who put up the ten commandments and weren't just trolling.
 
2014-01-06 06:03:07 PM  
I just heard about a weird thingy. Apparently, some of the nuttier Christians think that Beyoncé is often in communion with a succubus named Sasha Fierce when Beyoncé performs. Several proofs are given; not least of which is a hand gesture that is said to originate with the illuminati. Anyone else ever heard about this one; or is it just THAT loopy?
 
2014-01-06 06:04:08 PM  
www.rawstory.com
I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.
 
2014-01-06 06:04:26 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


When Satanists introduce legislation to deny Christians the right to marry, you'll have a point about which side is on the attack.
 
2014-01-06 06:04:44 PM  
Whoa, wait?  These are foundations of western civilization?

17 "Do not make any idols.
18"Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
19"The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
"No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
21"Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
22"Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.
23Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.
25"Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.
26"Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."
27Then the Lord said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." 28Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant-the Ten Commandments.


I missed a LOT in my Western Civ class, apparently.  People still take food to church for tithing?  We still appear before God three times a year? And I am Soooo glad I was the last child...
 
2014-01-06 06:06:25 PM  
theframeproblem.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-06 06:07:25 PM  
The Satanists are doing an Indiegogo fundraiser to build the monument.

Link here:  http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/put-a-satanic-monument-at-ok-capito l
 
rpm
2014-01-06 06:07:38 PM  

Mugato: FlashHarry: Mugato: I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.

what defines an "actual religion," pray tell? age? number of adherents? relative wackiness of its teachings?

Ok, fine. Those people believe in Satan and the Flying Spaghetti Monster as fervently as the Christians who put up the ten commandments and weren't just trolling.


Let's assume that they don't sincerely believe that, but there's something else entirely. So what? Presenting a different public face than private one is a fairly common feature of some religions (see: Masons, Scientologists)
 
2014-01-06 06:09:29 PM  

mithras_angel: The Satanists are doing an Indiegogo fundraiser to build the monument.

Link here:  http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/put-a-satanic-monument-at-ok-capito l


Which has a moratorium on it and will probably never be built.  But, you know, free money.
 
2014-01-06 06:10:27 PM  

tinyarena: [a57.foxnews.com image 400x260]
The Satanist statue looks better - just sayin'

Anyway, when the ACLU gets done with you Oklahoma, there won't be any statue on the state house grounds.

/so take a picture, it'll last longer



Personally, I'd be cool with parceling out the land into so many equal-area segments and leasing them to groups on a decade long basis. Size and health/safety limits would naturally apply (no giant points at abdomen level for lawsuit reasons, etc), but any religion could be welcome to bid on the plot of land and decorate it as they see fit. If your faith didn't get a spot at the auction, you should have held a bigger bake sale. Civil liberties are satisfied, money comes into the city, city services get commissioned, and the complex becomes a "diversity garden" for a nifty tourist trap. Drop a little urban renewal money to encourage some small restaraunts and raise the local inn keepers taxes.

As long as the city council isn't butthurt about what gets put up, it's free fricking money.
 
2014-01-06 06:10:46 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

oh, i'm sorry - is somebody's religious display on public land making you feel uncomfortable?


No the hard, long stick poking out while he has his arms around children makes me feel uncomfortable.
 
2014-01-06 06:10:54 PM  

tjsands1118: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]
I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.


It had better be made of adamantium if it actually gets made.  Christians will not let it survive otherwise.
 
2014-01-06 06:11:54 PM  
1. Allow Christians to set up their monument

2. Place a moratorium on any other religious monuments so they can't get the same right

Yep. "Freedom of worship", all right.
 
2014-01-06 06:15:10 PM  
bizarrocomics.com
 
2014-01-06 06:15:15 PM  
Satanist, schmatanist. Meh. Wake me when the Church of NO MA'AM decides to put up a statue of the Rev. Al Bundy. Oops! No, that can't be right. He was defrocked for staying faithful to his wife instead of cheating on her with a bunch of big-boobed hookers and shoe groupies. My bad.

Carry on then.
 
2014-01-06 06:16:32 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: tinyarena: [a57.foxnews.com image 400x260]
The Satanist statue looks better - just sayin'

Anyway, when the ACLU gets done with you Oklahoma, there won't be any statue on the state house grounds.

/so take a picture, it'll last longer


Personally, I'd be cool with parceling out the land into so many equal-area segments and leasing them to groups on a decade long basis. Size and health/safety limits would naturally apply (no giant points at abdomen level for lawsuit reasons, etc), but any religion could be welcome to bid on the plot of land and decorate it as they see fit. If your faith didn't get a spot at the auction, you should have held a bigger bake sale. Civil liberties are satisfied, money comes into the city, city services get commissioned, and the complex becomes a "diversity garden" for a nifty tourist trap. Drop a little urban renewal money to encourage some small restaraunts and raise the local inn keepers taxes.

As long as the city council isn't butthurt about what gets put up, it's free fricking money.


Yesssss , and you could rig the bids; that way, Christians would win every time!

You could be a politician, like now!

/ I'm surprised they haven't elected to display mr goat guy in the broom closet; it'd be displayed on public land and nobody could say shiat about it
 
2014-01-06 06:17:08 PM  

graeylin: Whoa, wait?  These are foundations of western civilization?

17 "Do not make any idols.
18"Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
19"The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
"No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
21"Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
22"Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.
23Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.
25"Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.
26"Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."
27Then the Lord said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." 28Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant-the Ten Commandments.


I missed a LOT in my Western Civ class, apparently.  People still take food to church for tithing?  We still appear before God three times a year? And I am Soooo glad I was the last child...


That poster is an idiot and confusing the Bill of Rights with the Ten Commandments.
 
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