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(The Raw Story)   I'll see your Ten Commandments monument and raise you this 7-foot tall statue of the Satanic Goat-Lord Baphomet   (rawstory.com) divider line 264
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2014-01-06 03:06:32 PM  
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2014-01-06 03:14:53 PM  
That's horrible!

This is outrageous!

That statue doesn't look like a goat, it looks like a mandrill with horns.


(Eliphas Levi would not approve)
 
2014-01-06 03:23:33 PM  

FlashHarry: [grumpy-cat-good.jpg]


i1214.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-06 04:30:26 PM  
That is surprisingly tasteful.
 
2014-01-06 04:33:25 PM  
www.rawstory.com

i love the children on either side. a nice touch.
 
2014-01-06 04:34:12 PM  
At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.
 
2014-01-06 04:36:50 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


No, they're making a point.
 
2014-01-06 04:43:42 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


The Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people seem to have a far better grasp on what religious freedom means under the Constitution.
 
2014-01-06 04:47:18 PM  

Mugato: These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own exercising their first-amendment rights.


FTFY
 
2014-01-06 04:47:18 PM  

FlashHarry: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

i love the children on either side. a nice touch.


That's the creepiest part.

That has nothing to do with the statue of the Bahomet, btw... I just find statues of children creepy to begin with.
 
2014-01-06 04:51:00 PM  
Hail Satin!

/amidoinitrite?
 
2014-01-06 04:52:41 PM  
After other groups - including PETA and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - asked for their own displays, the Oklahoma City Capitol Preservation Commission placed a moratorium on new monuments at the statehouse.

I love how once the Christians got what they wanted they immediately banned any more monuments. Typical Christian crap.

"OUR GOD IS THE ONLY GOD. F*CK YOU! F*CK YOU!"
 
2014-01-06 04:53:22 PM  

RexTalionis: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

No, they're making a point.


I can see why they went about it as they did...it's a lose/lose situation for the dominionist Christians and their 10 commandments statues. But they they're still being jerk bags about it. Ah well...they're pissing off people I don't like very much. Lay on and have at thee or something,
 
2014-01-06 04:53:38 PM  
Further proof that you should never trust anyone that can look at all of the biatchin' religious deities available in the world and choose to follow the one that looks like a carny decided to do gay porn in the 70s.
 
2014-01-06 04:55:17 PM  
I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.
 
2014-01-06 04:58:54 PM  

Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.


Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.
 
2014-01-06 05:03:55 PM  

Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.


Not to mention that Lavey apparently stole a lot of his ideology from ayn rand.
 
2014-01-06 05:07:09 PM  

RexTalionis: That is surprisingly tasteful.


Came here to say that.
 
2014-01-06 05:09:30 PM  
Birmingham, Alabama does it better and theirs is in front of a church.

studentmedia.uab.edu
 
2014-01-06 05:11:46 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


oh, i'm sorry - is somebody's religious display on public land making you feel uncomfortable?
 
2014-01-06 05:21:25 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

oh, i'm sorry - is somebody's religious display on public land making you feel uncomfortable?


I'm sure that was their intended goal but no, I don't give a shiat. Just observing that they're being sort of obnoxious. I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.
 
2014-01-06 05:29:18 PM  

Walker: After other groups - including PETA and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - asked for their own displays, the Oklahoma City Capitol Preservation Commission placed a moratorium on new monuments at the statehouse.

I love how once the Christians got what they wanted they immediately banned any more monuments. Typical Christian crap.

"OUR GOD IS THE ONLY GOD. F*CK YOU! F*CK YOU!"


Yeah, pretty-much.  "It's okay when WE do it."
 
2014-01-06 05:34:45 PM  

RexTalionis: That is surprisingly tasteful.


Until you look under the skirt....


shudder
 
2014-01-06 05:35:31 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Walker: After other groups - including PETA and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - asked for their own displays, the Oklahoma City Capitol Preservation Commission placed a moratorium on new monuments at the statehouse.

I love how once the Christians got what they wanted they immediately banned any more monuments. Typical Christian crap.

"OUR GOD IS THE ONLY GOD. F*CK YOU! F*CK YOU!"

Yeah, pretty-much.  "It's okay when WE do it."


Sometimes just admitting im pagan is enough to trigger seizures from some of the more fanatical Christian types. They just assume pagans all worship the devil and proceed to flip out as per normal.
 
2014-01-06 05:37:45 PM  

Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.


Christianity needed a good guy and a bad guy. So they stole one from the Mithradists and the other from a minor character in Judaism's Big Book of STFU (Dude, Where's My Foreskin?).
 
2014-01-06 05:38:14 PM  
Paganism is not a Religion.
 
2014-01-06 05:39:11 PM  
Ayn rand and her objectivist ideology are essentially the same belief system as Lavey and nis flavor of satanism...Lavey even admitted as much. I suppose that's why I'm always confused she's omens says theyre a Christian that mixes rand into their ideology. That's like a black man who joins the kkk to promote racial diversity.
 
2014-01-06 05:39:12 PM  
YEAH BABY, TAKE THAT!1
 
2014-01-06 05:39:13 PM  
"This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."

Oh right, I forgot about your constitutional right not to be offended.


Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


Every time I hear someone use the phrase "That's just the way I was raised" to justify their own dickish behavior I want to punch them in the neck.
 
2014-01-06 05:39:53 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-06 05:40:17 PM  

Mugato: FlashHarry: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

oh, i'm sorry - is somebody's religious display on public land making you feel uncomfortable?

I'm sure that was their intended goal but no, I don't give a shiat. Just observing that they're being sort of obnoxious. I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


Absolutely! Given the atrocities some people do in the name of Jesus, I have a hard time believing they're actually Christians.
 
2014-01-06 05:40:37 PM  
I've always wondered that.  If someone believes in God, do they have to by default believe in Satan.  Or just the fact that Satan exists?  Because if it's the latter that's a cop out.
/oh and cool statue
 
2014-01-06 05:41:02 PM  
Now I know why he never shows up when I summon him, it's not the materia, it's the monument
 
2014-01-06 05:41:28 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-06 05:41:37 PM  

letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.


This is probably where you should consult a dictionary.
 
2014-01-06 05:42:51 PM  

Weaver95: Sometimes just admitting im pagan is enough to trigger seizures from some of the more fanatical Christian types. They just assume pagans all worship the devil and proceed to flip out as per normal.


Well to be fair Roman Catholics believe that Baptists worship the devil..

Really anything you worship that isn't their God is either idolatry or the devil's trickery. So all though most of them don't understand the distinction they are basically correct if you use their book. And since their book is the only one that matters (of course it is, just ask them) you are in fact worshiping the devil. You may think you're not, but you're just being tricked.

I too worship the devil. I just choose to worship the devil in the form of Milla Jovovich.
 
2014-01-06 05:42:51 PM  
Good to see the Freemasons come out into the open.
 
2014-01-06 05:43:02 PM  

letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.


If that makes you feel better than go ahead with your bad self.
 
2014-01-06 05:43:04 PM  
It's all fun and games until someone gets burned at the stake.
 
IP
2014-01-06 05:43:12 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-06 05:43:35 PM  
Just let that dude shower with his racoon
 
rpm
2014-01-06 05:43:43 PM  

Weaver95: I can see why they went about it as they did...it's a lose/lose situation for the dominionist Christians and their 10 commandments statues. But they they're still being jerk bags about it


Because being nice has gotten absolutely nowhere. Change only happens when it's loud. If you're not, you "obviously" don't care and they can keep doing it.
 
2014-01-06 05:43:49 PM  

Cagey B: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

The Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people seem to have a far better grasp on what religious freedom means under the Constitution.


Besides, they put out more.

/this excludes Southern Baptists
 
2014-01-06 05:44:59 PM  
Hail santa
 
rpm
2014-01-06 05:45:14 PM  

Badmoodman: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

This is probably where you should consult a dictionary.


This is probably where you should read nyms.
 
2014-01-06 05:45:23 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Let's see.  Christians imposing their narrow ideology on all of us by erecting a statue on a government site.  And doing so thanks to connections with conservative Christian politicians in the State House.

I think your definition of "dick" needs to be revised.

 
2014-01-06 05:45:56 PM  

Mugato: FlashHarry: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

oh, i'm sorry - is somebody's religious display on public land making you feel uncomfortable?

I'm sure that was their intended goal but no, I don't give a shiat. Just observing that they're being sort of obnoxious. I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


Then don't pretend that these "Christians" have any intention of following the words of Jesus.
 
2014-01-06 05:46:14 PM  
It's just a "god-fearing" thing.  No one's scared of Satan, so he doesn't get equal time.  Or any time.
 
2014-01-06 05:46:17 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


You sound like an apostate Unitarian. Have you never seen evangelical Christians acting like dicks?
 
2014-01-06 05:46:32 PM  

rpm: Weaver95: I can see why they went about it as they did...it's a lose/lose situation for the dominionist Christians and their 10 commandments statues. But they they're still being jerk bags about it

Because being nice has gotten absolutely nowhere. Change only happens when it's loud. If you're not, you "obviously" don't care and they can keep doing it.


What's jerky about expressing faith in Satan?
 
2014-01-06 05:46:34 PM  
"This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."

/So, you agree with public displays of faith, as long as it's your own, and not others. Not that i support satanism, but really, don't preach "faith" and then slap others around for having a faith that you don't agree with. Ass.
 
2014-01-06 05:47:16 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


Agreed.  I don't like the politicization of these displays, but I do realize that the ten commandments are part of the foundations of western civilization.  This is just dickish trolling.
 
2014-01-06 05:47:18 PM  
That kid is still not going to get a BB gun.
 
2014-01-06 05:47:39 PM  
a57.foxnews.com
The Satanist statue looks better - just sayin'

Anyway, when the ACLU gets done with you Oklahoma, there won't be any statue on the state house grounds.

/so take a picture, it'll last longer
 
2014-01-06 05:47:44 PM  

letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.


Dude! That was actually funny self-mockery! Great job!
 
2014-01-06 05:47:50 PM  
www.ferdyonfilms.com
 
2014-01-06 05:48:14 PM  
"This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville)

Listen, Earl, have you ever read the constitution? You don't even have to read the whole thing, just the first amendment.
 
2014-01-06 05:48:19 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."

/So, you agree with public displays of faith, as long as it's your own, and not others. Not that i support satanism, but really, don't preach "faith" and then slap others around for having a faith that you don't agree with. Ass.


The problem with assuming that your god is the one and only true god is that you develop a bit of a blind spot on the subject of faith.
 
2014-01-06 05:48:53 PM  
I am sure this will be a stepping stone to a lawsuit, and will allow the organization to have a nice crowd-funded statue when inevitably they decided to take down the commandment display instead of allowing any other displays to go up.
 
2014-01-06 05:48:55 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: Sometimes just admitting im pagan is enough to trigger seizures from some of the more fanatical Christian types. They just assume pagans all worship the devil and proceed to flip out as per normal.

Well to be fair Roman Catholics believe that Baptists worship the devil..

Really anything you worship that isn't their God is either idolatry or the devil's trickery. So all though most of them don't understand the distinction they are basically correct if you use their book. And since their book is the only one that matters (of course it is, just ask them) you are in fact worshiping the devil. You may think you're not, but you're just being tricked.

I too worship the devil. I just choose to worship the devil in the form of Milla Jovovich.


I think you have it backwards.  Baptists believe this Pope is the final Pope and anti-Christ and that Catholics worship the devil.
 
2014-01-06 05:48:56 PM  
I never know what to do during one of the few times I've met an adult who is literally scared of Satan.  I want to ask them if they still believe in the Easter Bunny.
 
2014-01-06 05:49:35 PM  

Great_Milenko: Agreed. I don't like the politicization of these displays, but I do realize that the ten commandments are part of the foundations of western civilization. This is just dickish trolling.


So was slavery.
 
2014-01-06 05:50:07 PM  
"This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said.

No.  No, it's not, you trailer-dwelling, cousin-farking, terra-cotta-toothed, subliterate peckerwood.

For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.
 
2014-01-06 05:51:29 PM  

gimmegimme: I never know what to do during one of the few times I've met an adult who is literally scared of Satan.  I want to ask them if they still believe in the Easter Bunny.


They aren't scared of Satan, they're scared that God will see them do something fun, and curse them. Very few of them truly believe that Satan has pull in the world.
 
2014-01-06 05:51:50 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said.

No.  No, it's not, you trailer-dwelling, cousin-farking, terra-cotta-toothed, subliterate peckerwood.

For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.


Sure, you could always try hitting them with facts. Who knows, maybe they'll eventually listen....but I rather doubt it.
 
2014-01-06 05:52:24 PM  

Mugato: Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


Exactly what do I need to do to make it my "actual" religion?

If I raise my children in the CotFSM, is it their "actual" religion, even if it's not mine?
 
2014-01-06 05:53:18 PM  

brandent: I think you have it backwards. Baptists believe this Pope is the final Pope and anti-Christ and that Catholics worship the devil.


Yeah but what the Baptists believe doesn't matter. They're just a bunch of satanists after all.
 
2014-01-06 05:53:56 PM  

FlashHarry: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

i love the children on either side. a nice touch.


It makes the troll too obvious though.  It is still a good troll, but this is obviously just some group doing this with a shiat eating grin, enjoying the howls and tears of entitled Christians who think they can erect religious monuments without a rebuttal from any other group.
 
2014-01-06 05:54:15 PM  
Teach the controversy!
 
2014-01-06 05:54:18 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.


You know, one of the Great Old Ones should be the next statue. I nominate  Ayi'ig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Great_Old_Ones
 
2014-01-06 05:54:44 PM  

Great_Milenko: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Agreed.  I don't like the politicization of these displays, but I do realize that the ten commandments are part of the foundations of western civilization.  This is just dickish trolling.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-06 05:54:52 PM  

letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.



True. It's usually used as a pejorative to imply someone else's religion isn't true,  but that's a pretty pedantic distinction. Everything from a Christian perspective is a pagan religion  -- Roman, Greek, Hindu, various tribal religions, animism, Protestantism, etc
 
2014-01-06 05:54:58 PM  
letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

PsiChick: Dude! That was actually funny self-mockery! Great job!

I know.

But it was a bit anti-climatic when those goobers actually replied.
 
2014-01-06 05:55:24 PM  
I used to think that back in the day trolling meant something, but these folks have really got it down! gr8 b8 m8
 
rpm
2014-01-06 05:56:20 PM  

loonatic112358: Benevolent Misanthrope: For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.

You know, one of the Great Old Ones should be the next statue. I nominate  Ayi'ig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Great_Old_Ones


So, after reading that description, that's what, Perry's hair?
 
2014-01-06 05:56:28 PM  

Weaver95: But they they're still being jerk bags about it.


Oh no, a group is being a jerk right back to a group that has been acting like jerks to them this entire time. Somebody get you a fainting couch!
 
2014-01-06 05:58:01 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

You sound like an apostate Unitarian. Have you never seen evangelical Christians acting like dicks?


Well I think his point was that the Christians are just doing as they were taught, seeing it as the Right Thing To Do rather than dickishness.

Of course, they're wrong, as their own holy book is approximately 9/10 "don't be a dick to other people" and they don't seem to have understood a word of it.
 
2014-01-06 05:59:13 PM  

Weaver95: Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.

Not to mention that Lavey apparently stole a lot of his ideology from ayn rand.


Really? He stole "treat every other living thing with respect" from Ayn Rand?

You're a moran.
 
2014-01-06 05:59:46 PM  

Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.


They're not meant to be taken seriously. The "Church of Satan" is a bunch of atheist performance artist/trolls. They don't actually believe in or worship Satan.
 
2014-01-06 06:00:10 PM  

Mugato: I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


what defines an "actual religion," pray tell? age? number of adherents? relative wackiness of its teachings?
 
2014-01-06 06:00:51 PM  
If the statue ever made it to Oklahoma it would be destroyed with bibles and 60oz Gulpies in a matter of minutes.
 
rpm
2014-01-06 06:02:14 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.

what defines an "actual religion," pray tell? age? number of adherents? relative wackiness of its teachings?


I belong to a religion, you belong to a cult, duh.
 
2014-01-06 06:02:29 PM  

letrole: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

PsiChick: Dude! That was actually funny self-mockery! Great job!

I know.

But it was a bit anti-climatic when those goobers actually replied.


I'm just still stunned you're not a bot. Nice to meet you, dude.
 
2014-01-06 06:03:05 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.

what defines an "actual religion," pray tell? age? number of adherents? relative wackiness of its teachings?


Ok, fine. Those people believe in Satan and the Flying Spaghetti Monster as fervently as the Christians who put up the ten commandments and weren't just trolling.
 
2014-01-06 06:03:07 PM  
I just heard about a weird thingy. Apparently, some of the nuttier Christians think that Beyoncé is often in communion with a succubus named Sasha Fierce when Beyoncé performs. Several proofs are given; not least of which is a hand gesture that is said to originate with the illuminati. Anyone else ever heard about this one; or is it just THAT loopy?
 
2014-01-06 06:04:08 PM  
www.rawstory.com
I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.
 
2014-01-06 06:04:26 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


When Satanists introduce legislation to deny Christians the right to marry, you'll have a point about which side is on the attack.
 
2014-01-06 06:04:44 PM  
Whoa, wait?  These are foundations of western civilization?

17 "Do not make any idols.
18"Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
19"The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
"No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
21"Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
22"Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.
23Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.
25"Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.
26"Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."
27Then the Lord said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." 28Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant-the Ten Commandments.


I missed a LOT in my Western Civ class, apparently.  People still take food to church for tithing?  We still appear before God three times a year? And I am Soooo glad I was the last child...
 
2014-01-06 06:06:25 PM  
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2014-01-06 06:07:25 PM  
The Satanists are doing an Indiegogo fundraiser to build the monument.

Link here:  http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/put-a-satanic-monument-at-ok-capito l
 
rpm
2014-01-06 06:07:38 PM  

Mugato: FlashHarry: Mugato: I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.

what defines an "actual religion," pray tell? age? number of adherents? relative wackiness of its teachings?

Ok, fine. Those people believe in Satan and the Flying Spaghetti Monster as fervently as the Christians who put up the ten commandments and weren't just trolling.


Let's assume that they don't sincerely believe that, but there's something else entirely. So what? Presenting a different public face than private one is a fairly common feature of some religions (see: Masons, Scientologists)
 
2014-01-06 06:09:29 PM  

mithras_angel: The Satanists are doing an Indiegogo fundraiser to build the monument.

Link here:  http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/put-a-satanic-monument-at-ok-capito l


Which has a moratorium on it and will probably never be built.  But, you know, free money.
 
2014-01-06 06:10:27 PM  

tinyarena: [a57.foxnews.com image 400x260]
The Satanist statue looks better - just sayin'

Anyway, when the ACLU gets done with you Oklahoma, there won't be any statue on the state house grounds.

/so take a picture, it'll last longer



Personally, I'd be cool with parceling out the land into so many equal-area segments and leasing them to groups on a decade long basis. Size and health/safety limits would naturally apply (no giant points at abdomen level for lawsuit reasons, etc), but any religion could be welcome to bid on the plot of land and decorate it as they see fit. If your faith didn't get a spot at the auction, you should have held a bigger bake sale. Civil liberties are satisfied, money comes into the city, city services get commissioned, and the complex becomes a "diversity garden" for a nifty tourist trap. Drop a little urban renewal money to encourage some small restaraunts and raise the local inn keepers taxes.

As long as the city council isn't butthurt about what gets put up, it's free fricking money.
 
2014-01-06 06:10:46 PM  

FlashHarry: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

oh, i'm sorry - is somebody's religious display on public land making you feel uncomfortable?


No the hard, long stick poking out while he has his arms around children makes me feel uncomfortable.
 
2014-01-06 06:10:54 PM  

tjsands1118: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]
I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.


It had better be made of adamantium if it actually gets made.  Christians will not let it survive otherwise.
 
2014-01-06 06:11:54 PM  
1. Allow Christians to set up their monument

2. Place a moratorium on any other religious monuments so they can't get the same right

Yep. "Freedom of worship", all right.
 
2014-01-06 06:15:10 PM  
bizarrocomics.com
 
2014-01-06 06:15:15 PM  
Satanist, schmatanist. Meh. Wake me when the Church of NO MA'AM decides to put up a statue of the Rev. Al Bundy. Oops! No, that can't be right. He was defrocked for staying faithful to his wife instead of cheating on her with a bunch of big-boobed hookers and shoe groupies. My bad.

Carry on then.
 
2014-01-06 06:16:32 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: tinyarena: [a57.foxnews.com image 400x260]
The Satanist statue looks better - just sayin'

Anyway, when the ACLU gets done with you Oklahoma, there won't be any statue on the state house grounds.

/so take a picture, it'll last longer


Personally, I'd be cool with parceling out the land into so many equal-area segments and leasing them to groups on a decade long basis. Size and health/safety limits would naturally apply (no giant points at abdomen level for lawsuit reasons, etc), but any religion could be welcome to bid on the plot of land and decorate it as they see fit. If your faith didn't get a spot at the auction, you should have held a bigger bake sale. Civil liberties are satisfied, money comes into the city, city services get commissioned, and the complex becomes a "diversity garden" for a nifty tourist trap. Drop a little urban renewal money to encourage some small restaraunts and raise the local inn keepers taxes.

As long as the city council isn't butthurt about what gets put up, it's free fricking money.


Yesssss , and you could rig the bids; that way, Christians would win every time!

You could be a politician, like now!

/ I'm surprised they haven't elected to display mr goat guy in the broom closet; it'd be displayed on public land and nobody could say shiat about it
 
2014-01-06 06:17:08 PM  

graeylin: Whoa, wait?  These are foundations of western civilization?

17 "Do not make any idols.
18"Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
19"The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
"No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
21"Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
22"Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.
23Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.
25"Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.
26"Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."
27Then the Lord said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." 28Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant-the Ten Commandments.


I missed a LOT in my Western Civ class, apparently.  People still take food to church for tithing?  We still appear before God three times a year? And I am Soooo glad I was the last child...


That poster is an idiot and confusing the Bill of Rights with the Ten Commandments.
 
2014-01-06 06:19:00 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Which has a moratorium on it and will probably never be built. But, you know, free money.


If you can't trust Satanists to put the money to good use who can you trust?!
 
2014-01-06 06:20:06 PM  

TV's Vinnie: 1. Allow Christians to set up their monument

2. Place a moratorium on any other religious monuments so they can't get the same right

Yep. "Freedom of worship", all right.


Who is being stopped from worshiping?
Not erecting a statue does not interfere with any religious observances.
 
2014-01-06 06:22:10 PM  

loonatic112358: Benevolent Misanthrope: For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.

You know, one of the Great Old Ones should be the next statue. I nominate  Ayi'ig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Great_Old_Ones


If you put that in Oklahoma people would completely lose it. Ayi'ig is from Texas.
 
2014-01-06 06:23:52 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: TV's Vinnie: 1. Allow Christians to set up their monument

2. Place a moratorium on any other religious monuments so they can't get the same right

Yep. "Freedom of worship", all right.

Who is being stopped from worshiping?
Not erecting a statue does not interfere with any religious observances.


So we agree that a Christian monument on public land has nothing at all to do with the free exercise of religion.  Cool.  So why is it there, then?
 
2014-01-06 06:24:14 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Benevolent Misanthrope: Which has a moratorium on it and will probably never be built. But, you know, free money.

If you can't trust Satanists to put the money to good use who can you trust?!


that's it. I'm getting out my checkbook.
 
2014-01-06 06:24:22 PM  

fusillade762: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."

Oh right, I forgot about your constitutional right not to be offended.


Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Every time I hear someone use the phrase "That's just the way I was raised" to justify their own dickish behavior I want to punch them in the neck.


What is  yourjustification for dickish behavior?
 
2014-01-06 06:27:38 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Who is being stopped from worshiping?
Not erecting a statue does not interfere with any religious observances.


Great, so we don't need to put the 10 Commandments on public grounds.
 
2014-01-06 06:28:52 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Benevolent Misanthrope: Which has a moratorium on it and will probably never be built. But, you know, free money.

If you can't trust Satanists to put the money to good use who can you trust?!


Actually, taking money from the gullible may be the one thing that makes me consider them as a "real church."
 
2014-01-06 06:28:58 PM  
A guy nailed and dying on a cross is much more disturbing
 
2014-01-06 06:29:18 PM  

chndrcks: loonatic112358: Benevolent Misanthrope: For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.

You know, one of the Great Old Ones should be the next statue. I nominate  Ayi'ig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Great_Old_Ones

If you put that in Oklahoma people would completely lose it. Ayi'ig is from Texas.


I can has Lolth?

/ The state house does need a statue of a giant, black, half woman, half spider, all chaotic goddess.
 
2014-01-06 06:29:59 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: TV's Vinnie: 1. Allow Christians to set up their monument

2. Place a moratorium on any other religious monuments so they can't get the same right

Yep. "Freedom of worship", all right.

Who is being stopped from worshiping?
Not erecting a statue does not interfere with any religious observances.


Erecting a statue for one religion and refusing to erect a statue for any other religion makes it look like the first religion is being sponsored by the state, seeing as how the property said statues would be erected on is state property. Putting up the 10 commandments alone would not have been a violation of the first amendment, but their refusal to allow any other statue to be put up is what puts them in the wrong.
 
2014-01-06 06:30:31 PM  
iheartscotch:

Yesssss , and you could rig the bids; that way, Christians would win every time!

You could be a politician, like now!

/ I'm surprised they haven't elected to display mr goat guy in the broom closet; it'd be displayed on public land and nobody could say shiat about it


Actually, make it a public auction and sell the parcels that way. An open bidding war is more honest and much more likely to result in overpaying because if you REALLY believe that the other guy is evil, you'll pay to shut him down. At which point, someone like a secular humanist group just keeps bidding to raise the price. Then the city council gets to brag about their awesome fundraiser idea and maybe adjust local property taxes because of all this extra money.

THAT'S thinking like a politician
 
2014-01-06 06:31:05 PM  
  If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.
 
2014-01-06 06:32:06 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


As someone who was raised a Satanist, I feel the exact same way about anyone who converted to Christianity or was "born again" as an adult.  Those people are not real Christians and just converted intentionally to have cover for why they are always dicks.
 
2014-01-06 06:32:43 PM  

Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.


How much did the Ten Commandments monument cost?
 
2014-01-06 06:34:03 PM  

Confabulat: Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.

How much did the Ten Commandments monument cost?


*DING DING DING* WINNER
 
2014-01-06 06:34:49 PM  

Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.


Or, they can raise the money, build their statue then use the lawsuit money for charity.
 
2014-01-06 06:35:06 PM  

Lee451: fusillade762: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."

Oh right, I forgot about your constitutional right not to be offended.


Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Every time I hear someone use the phrase "That's just the way I was raised" to justify their own dickish behavior I want to punch them in the neck.

What is  yourjustification for dickish behavior?


Alcohol, usually.
 
2014-01-06 06:35:22 PM  

rpm: Let's assume that they don't sincerely believe that, but there's something else entirely. So what? Presenting a different public face than private one is a fairly common feature of some religions (see: Masons, Scientologists)


Hey, all I said was that they were being smarmy pricks, not that I disagreed about the First Amendment thing.

None of our laws are based on the ten commandments anyway, except stealing and killing (and the killing one is highly negotiable) and we could have figured those out ourselves. A couple of them are downright against our way of life. Coveting thy neighbor's shiat is the basis of capitalism. And not working on the sabbath? Tell that to my boss. So fark the ten commandments but fark those guys too.
 
2014-01-06 06:35:35 PM  

Confabulat: Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.

How much did the Ten Commandments monument cost?


It's different when Christians do it, because reasons!!!
 
2014-01-06 06:36:01 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


I......um..... I've seen references here in the past about what I thought was an in-joke, The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Something made me google it this time. I'd be rofl if the floor wasn't so damn cold. I love when the joke is on me!
 
2014-01-06 06:36:46 PM  

FlashHarry: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

i love the children on either side. a nice touch.


What's with the rubber hose arms?
 
2014-01-06 06:37:50 PM  

Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.


Your point goes both ways. Christians could do a lot of actual good with the millions they spend running ads against marriage equality.
 
2014-01-06 06:37:55 PM  

tjsands1118: I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.


Also what's with the blanket across the lap. The giant phallus is one of the defining characteristics of Baphomet.
 
2014-01-06 06:37:59 PM  

Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.


To be fair, not all forms of Satanism are necessarily defined by Christianity. There are forms of theistic Satanism that view Satan as more of a pagan god that predated Judaism and Christianity. The name Satan is also sometimes interpreted as a bastardization of one of the titles of the Egyptian god Set, that being Set-an (if my memory serves me, this title means "Set is mighty"). Some taking a soft approach to polytheism might also view Satan as a cultural mask of a dark solar god present in many ancient religions and associate him with gods such as Set, Dionysos, Nergal, etc...
 
2014-01-06 06:39:34 PM  
it would seem that these people aren't well liked in school, the workplace, or just creeping about the mall, even if they don't mention their religion

hells bells, if played right, the paganism angle might actually help a bit with the hostility that evidently comes with being anti-social, since most reasonable people take that sort of wtf-ery to mean "that boy ain't quite right, just nod and smile"
 
2014-01-06 06:40:26 PM  

Badmoodman: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

This is probably where you should consult a dictionary.


Don't mind him, letrole is a pedophile.
 
2014-01-06 06:42:27 PM  
Incomplete without bike...

static.fjcdn.com
 
2014-01-06 06:43:24 PM  

Great_Milenko: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Agreed.  I don't like the politicization of these displays, but I do realize that the ten commandments are part of the foundations of western civilization.  This is just dickish trolling.


Sigh.

Hamurabi,would like a word with you.

/wish it would get to the point I wouldn't have to keep pointing that out
 
2014-01-06 06:43:37 PM  
The statue has a flat back, meaning it really only works if it's being viewed from the front, but it won't have the advantage of a formal approach, like, say, walking up to the Lincoln Memorial. It also has *a lot* of arms and legs that are free, meaning there are lots of things that will break off over time and make a good target for vandals. There's also lots of places for water to pool and then freeze when winter comes. This is a pretty terrible design.
 
2014-01-06 06:46:01 PM  
ReverendJasen: Don't mind him, letrole is a pedophile.

Look dude, your sister was 17. She's not a little girl anymore.

/no siree bob she ain't
 
2014-01-06 06:48:50 PM  

Mugato: Coveting thy neighbor's shiat is the basis of capitalism.


I've always loved that commandment. The idea that you can sin just by THINKING something.
 
2014-01-06 06:53:44 PM  

fusillade762: I've always loved that commandment. The idea that you can sin just by THINKING something.


In Judaism, coveting is understood to require you to take an action, like, say, sending a soldier out to die so you can take his wife for yourself. It wasn't until Christianity came along that the concept of "thought crimes" was invented. That's why Jesus makes a big deal out of the teaching that looking at a chick and wanting to bang her is as bad as banging her - it was a novel idea.
 
2014-01-06 06:54:00 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-06 06:56:10 PM  

fusillade762: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."


You highlighted the wrong part.  Satanism is a faith.

/ This is NOT a faith-based nation.  It is a secular one, founded in reason and the understanding that power tends to make people act like choads.  The more certain they are, the more awful their tendency to rule rather than govern.
 
2014-01-06 06:56:48 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: fusillade762: I've always loved that commandment. The idea that you can sin just by THINKING something.

In Judaism, coveting is understood to require you to take an action, like, say, sending a soldier out to die so you can take his wife for yourself. It wasn't until Christianity came along that the concept of "thought crimes" was invented. That's why Jesus makes a big deal out of the teaching that looking at a chick and wanting to bang her is as bad as banging her - it was a novel idea.


It's like "thou shall not kill" is really "thou shalt not murder" and includes a laundry list of exceptions. Those Jews sure know how to negotiate.

/I keed, I keed
 
2014-01-06 06:59:12 PM  

Confabulat: Birmingham, Alabama does it better and theirs is in front of a church.

[studentmedia.uab.edu image 600x400]


Jar-Jar Binks?
 
2014-01-06 07:03:13 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


Sorry, I was just raised to be a dick.  I'm afraid I get a free pass too.
 
2014-01-06 07:05:37 PM  

rpm: loonatic112358: Benevolent Misanthrope: For Cthulhu's SAKE, you assholes, just STOP IT.

You know, one of the Great Old Ones should be the next statue. I nominate  Ayi'ig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Great_Old_Ones

So, after reading that description, that's what, Perry's hair?


could be, it'd explain a lot of Texas politics.

if a statue of her gets made, it should be based off of Rick Perry's hair.
 
2014-01-06 07:06:18 PM  
Hail Satin.
 
2014-01-06 07:10:24 PM  

Walker: After other groups - including PETA and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - asked for their own displays, the Oklahoma City Capitol Preservation Commission placed a moratorium on new monuments at the statehouse.

I love how once the Christians got what they wanted they immediately banned any more monuments. Typical Christian crap.

"OUR GOD IS THE ONLY GOD. F*CK YOU! F*CK YOU!"


As a Christian who can't stand this type of attitude, I really wish we were more like Muslims where artwork and statues are concerned. This insistence upon putting up a monument of some sort is straight up idolatry.
 
2014-01-06 07:12:21 PM  

dionysusaur: fusillade762: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. "I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation."

You highlighted the wrong part.  Satanism is a faith.

/ This is NOT a faith-based nation.  It is a secular one, founded in reason and the understanding that power tends to make people act like choads.  The more certain they are, the more awful their tendency to rule rather than govern.


Agreed. There was too much stupid in that quote for me to tackle it all in one post.
 
2014-01-06 07:13:14 PM  
i43.tinypic.com

 Some would say the monument already exists.
 
2014-01-06 07:14:24 PM  

iheartscotch: I just heard about a weird thingy. Apparently, some of the nuttier Christians think that Beyoncé is often in communion with a succubus named Sasha Fierce when Beyoncé performs. Several proofs are given; not least of which is a hand gesture that is said to originate with the illuminati. Anyone else ever heard about this one; or is it just THAT loopy?


No, it is just that loopy, but it seems to be popular on conspiracy theory pages and blogs and such.

I love those websites. Always funny.
 
2014-01-06 07:23:46 PM  

Great_Milenko: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Agreed.  I don't like the politicization of these displays, but I do realize that the ten commandments are part of the foundations of western civilization.  This is just dickish trolling.


Really? Which part are they? Be careful to note where the precepts in the 10 Commandments are both a) Constitutional and b) didn't appear elsewhere first.
 
2014-01-06 07:24:19 PM  
Telethon to raise money for the new monument to air on HSN!

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-06 07:24:32 PM  

Mugato: I'm sure that was their intended goal but no, I don't give a shiat. Just observing that they're being sort of obnoxious. I get the whole 1st amendment thing. Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


www.ashgate.com

I'm sure you believe that and that it makes you feel better to say it, but that is simply not true. There are many Satanisms, and not all of them, even most, are LaVeyian in nature. Simply asserting their right to be equally visible in the dominant culture isn't being obnoxious, especially coupled with a legitimate Constitutional criticism of Dominionist government.
 
2014-01-06 07:24:54 PM  
Zeus gets no love!!! I propose the following!

vincentloy.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-06 07:27:39 PM  

Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.


Why aren't the Christians helping that kid?
 
2014-01-06 07:29:44 PM  
I'm not so interested in the Satanism (or whatever other mob of the righteously indignant) vs. Judeo Christian controversy.  What irritates me is the folks who DON'T live in or care about Oklahoma, wanting to erect their monuments here.  Yeah, I get the whole equality argument, so fine - let the Oklahoma chapter of satanists put up the monument they want.  This is clearly not that - it's just some obnoxiously self-important damned yankees wanting to troll a state they are unlikely to ever visit, because tee-hee equal rights herpaderp.  Trifling and pettiness; please go screw up your own state capitol, kthxbye.

/ Yes, I live in OKC
// No, I don't really give a damned if someone puts up a statue of Baphomet or the monkey god or whatever else
/// Jeez, don't you people have something better to do?!?
 
2014-01-06 07:31:37 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.

Your point goes both ways. Christians could do a lot of actual good with the millions they spend running ads against marriage equality.


It actually goes the other way a lot more... Christianity puts a lot of money into Evangelical preacher's coffers, the Vatican, etc., all which could be going to actually helping people but is instead used to build bigger, shinier buildings and buy bigger, shinier cars, houses and things for the preachers.
 
2014-01-06 07:33:46 PM  

FlashHarry: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

i love the children on either side. a nice touch.


Just don't sit on his lap.  that would be a bad thing.
 
2014-01-06 07:34:50 PM  

Confabulat: Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.

How much did the Ten Commandments monument cost?


The monument cost about $10,000, and costs to pay for the materials of the base and other work was about another $10,000, Ritze said.
 
2014-01-06 07:35:57 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Zeus gets no love!!! I propose the following!

[vincentloy.files.wordpress.com image 550x784]


Respect my god too.
susannagalanis1.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-06 07:36:01 PM  
I've got 4 crotch fruit and for kicks I raised each one in a different religion. One Buddhist, one Lutheran, one Muslim, one Jewish.

/our favorite holiday is thanksgiving
//good times
 
2014-01-06 07:37:11 PM  

thotpoizn: I'm not so interested in the Satanism (or whatever other mob of the righteously indignant) vs. Judeo Christian controversy.  What irritates me is the folks who DON'T live in or care about Oklahoma, wanting to erect their monuments here.  Yeah, I get the whole equality argument, so fine - let the Oklahoma chapter of satanists put up the monument they want.  This is clearly not that - it's just some obnoxiously self-important damned yankees wanting to troll a state they are unlikely to ever visit, because tee-hee equal rights herpaderp.  Trifling and pettiness; please go screw up your own state capitol, kthxbye.

/ Yes, I live in OKC
// No, I don't really give a damned if someone puts up a statue of Baphomet or the monkey god or whatever else
/// Jeez, don't you people have something better to do?!?


The article addresses that... there are Satanists in OKC who support it, and want it to happen. There's definitely a local interest, with a bit of funding from out of state and elsewhere like anything (Prop 8, anyone?). They're just careful about not being named publicly, because Christians are ever so loving there, and might hurt them if they knew.
 
2014-01-06 07:37:38 PM  

Pitabred: The Why Not Guy: Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.

Your point goes both ways. Christians could do a lot of actual good with the millions they spend running ads against marriage equality.

It actually goes the other way a lot more... Christianity puts a lot of money into Evangelical preacher's coffers, the Vatican, etc., all which could be going to actually helping people but is instead used to build bigger, shinier buildings and buy bigger, shinier cars, houses and things for the preachers.


Don't forget the money they pay to the kids who were raped by priests and they lawyers they paid to limit the amount the child rape victims can recover and the money they paid the rapist priests to leave their positions quietly and the money they paid to shuttle a facilitator like Cardinal Law out of the country.

Oh, and don't forget how expensive it is to actually find and tap and transport the miracle spring water.

3.bp.blogspot.com

//And it's all TAX-FREE!
 
2014-01-06 07:37:48 PM  

comslave: FlashHarry: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

i love the children on either side. a nice touch.

Just don't sit on his lap.  that would be a bad thing.


FTFA:

"The monument has been designed to reflect the views of Satanists in Oklahoma City and beyond. The statue will serve as a beacon calling for compassion and empathy among all living creatures. The statue will also have a functional purpose as a chair where people of all ages may sit on the lap of Satan for inspiration and contemplation," spokesman Lucien Greaves explained.
 
2014-01-06 07:41:58 PM  
Let Christians have their idolatry for all I care. If for some reason their book holds true hell will be a little easier laughing at the vast majority of Christians weeping and gnashing teeth when they get there.

/you knew me not
 
2014-01-06 07:42:46 PM  

Mugato: Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


All christian religions are just a bunch of New Age cultists who couldn't handle original Judaism so they perverted it to their will. "Oh, noes, we need a more approachable, pussified deity. I know, let's make up this Trinty bullshiat so we don't have to admit that we're violating the first commandment even though we totally are to the extent that some of us don't even mention God, but only Jesus." Yeah, that's a totally legit actual religion.
 
2014-01-06 07:43:22 PM  

Pitabred: The Why Not Guy: Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.

Your point goes both ways. Christians could do a lot of actual good with the millions they spend running ads against marriage equality.

It actually goes the other way a lot more... Christianity puts a lot of money into Evangelical preacher's coffers, the Vatican, etc., all which could be going to actually helping people but is instead used to build bigger, shinier buildings and buy bigger, shinier cars, houses and things for the preachers.


Check out the latest Catholic Church that just opened about 14 months ago a few miles down the road from me.

http://catholicphilly.com/media-files/2012/10/bl-teresa-outside.jpg
 
2014-01-06 07:46:45 PM  

rudemix: Let Christians have their idolatry for all I care. If for some reason their book holds true hell will be a little easier laughing at the vast majority of Christians weeping and gnashing teeth when they get there.

/you knew me not


Well sure they do practice idolatry but they don't have to do it on public land.
 
2014-01-06 07:47:00 PM  
I'd prefer a statuary tableau of Baphomet as Miley Cyrus twerking into Aleister Crowley/Robin Thicke's loins.
 
2014-01-06 07:47:03 PM  
Hail Stain
 
2014-01-06 07:47:45 PM  
i.imgur.com

I'm not sure if any of my male fertility gods are SFW, so I'd like my Aztec god of fertility on the lawn too.
 
2014-01-06 07:49:15 PM  
I see your God, and raise with U235.

jagatplay.com
 
2014-01-06 07:51:25 PM  

Oldiron_79: Hail santa


i1.ytimg.com
Noo!
 
2014-01-06 07:52:11 PM  
www.nuclearblast.de
 
2014-01-06 07:57:04 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: I see your God, and raise with U235.


The model they used was of Fat Man; and Fat Man was plutonium, if I remember right.
 
2014-01-06 07:58:48 PM  
As long as the Satanists are getting in there, I'd like to propose we erect a statue in recognition of Alpine pre-Christian religions, i.e., the Krampus.

http://www.theofantastique.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Krampus.png
 
2014-01-06 08:06:45 PM  
I want a giant Golden Apple on the Texas Capitol Grounds. It seems perfectly cromulent for the location.

HAIL ERIS!
 
2014-01-06 08:07:06 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 482x638]


Dammit! I had just put that game behind me.
Now I has a sad.
 
2014-01-06 08:18:55 PM  
What would they do if the Satanist statue just shows up in the middle of the night right next to it? Maybe coordinate with other to drop off Buddha and FSM statues at the same time for an extra bit of FU.
 
2014-01-06 08:19:52 PM  
www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com

Freedom of Religion!
 
2014-01-06 08:27:43 PM  
chinastudygroup.net

webmonkees.com
 
2014-01-06 08:31:51 PM  

bluenovaman: What would they do if the Satanist statue just shows up in the middle of the night right next to it? Maybe coordinate with other to drop off Buddha and FSM statues at the same time for an extra bit of FU.


Well the thing isn't it. If Oklahoma wants their capital to be a place for religious displays they have to allow all of them.
 
2014-01-06 08:34:03 PM  
The effigy is flanked by statue children smiling in wonder at Satan, and he is himself a chair so you can sit in his lap?  ROFL.  Even as a Christian I find this hilarious.  These dudes can troll.  I'm all for it.
 
2014-01-06 08:39:17 PM  

RexTalionis: [chinastudygroup.net image 628x799]

[webmonkees.com image 775x1024]


Oh pretty I don't know hoe to translate that into a statue but I bet those would look nice hanging in the OK capitals foyer in a prominent place.

I also really like my White Tara statue
www.dharmasculpture.com
 
2014-01-06 08:40:00 PM  
not one pic of the bull [baal] on wall street?
fail me farkers you do
 
2014-01-06 08:42:39 PM  
Lord Phallus would be better

images.artistdirect.com
 
2014-01-06 08:50:24 PM  

FlashHarry: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

i love the children on either side. a nice touch.


EPIC trolling.  Holy crap, these guys are pros lol.
 
2014-01-06 08:50:54 PM  

Badmoodman: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

This is probably where you should consult a dictionary.


He's technically correct, Paganism's a category of religions in Christian doctrine, not a single religion with a unified theology.

Basically, there are three ways to not be Christian according to Christianity:

Pagan/Heathen - you follow a non-Christian religion that was around before Christianity was invented (the Aesir, Marduk, etc) in your region
Atheist - you don't follow a god/religion at all
Heretic - you follow a non-Christian religion (or branch doctrine) that was invented  after Christianity was introduced to your region

So... yeah, there you go I guess.  Worshiping Frigga makes you a pagan, worshiping Satan makes you a heretic.  Get it right, yo.
 
2014-01-06 08:52:23 PM  

Mugato: None of our laws are based on the ten commandments anyway, except stealing and killing (and the killing one is highly negotiable)


English Common Law had way more to do with the origins of our current prohibition of stealing and killing than anything some escaped slaves happened to write down in the middle of the desert.
 
2014-01-06 08:54:27 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Badmoodman: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

This is probably where you should consult a dictionary.

He's technically correct, Paganism's a category of religions in Christian doctrine, not a single religion with a unified theology.

Basically, there are three ways to not be Christian according to Christianity:

Pagan/Heathen - you follow a non-Christian religion that was around before Christianity was invented (the Aesir, Marduk, etc) in your region
Atheist - you don't follow a god/religion at all
Heretic - you follow a non-Christian religion (or branch doctrine) that was invented  after Christianity was introduced to your region

So... yeah, there you go I guess.  Worshiping Frigga makes you a pagan, worshiping Satan makes you a heretic.  Get it right, yo.


Best part is technically correct is the best kind of correct.
 
2014-01-06 08:55:18 PM  
This is Oklahoma, where when you ask what churches exist in the state, the common reply:  We got both kinds, Southern Baptist and Baptist!


(not quite that bad, but definitely the church which seems to be a bit heavy handed when it comes to trying to set public policy.  Well between them and the Assemblies of God.)
 
2014-01-06 08:58:41 PM  

RaceDTruck: RexTalionis: That is surprisingly tasteful.

Came here to say that.


It's a bit large for a lawn, though. it might need a shrine.
 
2014-01-06 09:00:27 PM  
Please do not feed the Christians or rattle their cage.

Look what happened the last time, you silly Bath Mat worshippers!
 
2014-01-06 09:01:35 PM  
How about erecting a monument to an Elder God?
 
2014-01-06 09:04:04 PM  
They aren't making a point. They're just being attention-whoring douche bags because life isn't fair or somehing.
 
2014-01-06 09:10:40 PM  

vudukungfu: not one pic of the bull [baal] on wall street?
fail me farkers you do


That's on private land I think also does not start with the line Thou shalt not have another God or whatever.
 
2014-01-06 09:12:26 PM  
3D rendering != statue

Probably lifted from a game or some other source.

I find distasteful anyone shouting out "Hey...Over here! Check out my [lack of] religion!" to everyone around. It reeks of desperate pride or loneliness.

/just my view
//known plenty awesome folks with faith and plenty awesome folks who're pretty sure there is no god...who don't feel compelled to bleat about it to total strangers.
 
2014-01-06 09:13:15 PM  
Apparently Baphomet is in favor of raising the minimum wage. I can't tell if that surprises me or not.

/Another scam site to block, I guess.
 
2014-01-06 09:18:55 PM  

TerminalEchoes: They aren't making a point. They're just being attention-whoring douche bags because life isn't fair or somehing.


Oh really? And what is your source of information for that?
Or do you just think that anyone who thinks differently from you is an "attention-whoring douche bag"?
 
2014-01-06 09:22:11 PM  
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2014-01-06 09:32:02 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: RexTalionis: [chinastudygroup.net image 628x799]

[webmonkees.com image 775x1024]

Oh pretty I don't know hoe to translate that into a statue but I bet those would look nice hanging in the OK capitals foyer in a prominent place.

I also really like my White Tara statue
[www.dharmasculpture.com image 437x600]


Maybe something like this?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-06 09:32:53 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: I'd prefer a statuary tableau of Baphomet as Miley Cyrus twerking into Aleister Crowley/Robin Thicke's loins.


Make it Robin Meade instead of Robin Thicke and you have my support.
 
2014-01-06 09:33:15 PM  
Methods of this sort have long been the way for religious and social issues groups to insert dialogue into the public forum.  It's only when minority and dissent parties do the same that they are labeled negatively for it.  There are two major aggravating factors here.  One the display is of Satan which is a figure of evil in Christianity and sure to raise hackles, and two the presence of children as a signal of the indoctrination of children to worship Satan.  Do Christians have a right to deny another faith a place in the public square because of their view of that faiths hero? I say no, but that doesn't mean they won't try.

It's very simple Christians.  If you want your supernatural beliefs respected without proof then you have to respect other peoples supernatural beliefs too.  You know how crazy you think those Muslims are?  That's how other people feel about you and your beliefs.  So I agree not to treat you as stupid for believing in things that are impossible to prove or have been proven false, and you agree not to treat me as stupid for insisting on evidence and peer review in our decision making processes.  I really think you're getting the better half of this deal.
 
2014-01-06 09:42:32 PM  

RexTalionis: tinfoil-hat maggie: RexTalionis: [chinastudygroup.net image 628x799]

[webmonkees.com image 775x1024]

Oh pretty I don't know hoe to translate that into a statue but I bet those would look nice hanging in the OK capitals foyer in a prominent place.

I also really like my White Tara statue
[www.dharmasculpture.com image 437x600]

Maybe something like this?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 621x466]


Looks good to me : )

Oh and how could I almost forget one of my other gods.
coursesite.uhcl.edu
 
2014-01-06 09:48:21 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


Or....Christians are Christians because they were indoctrinated when they were too young to defend themselves.  Satanist and FSM adherents converted to the faith of their own free will.
 
2014-01-06 09:52:26 PM  
stuffy:

img.fark.net

They missed the next step where a blonde socialite has a tiny dog in her purse.
 
2014-01-06 10:12:19 PM  
Looks like Joe Camel got a new gig.
 
2014-01-06 10:14:17 PM  
Personally, I am disappointed they are displaying all 15 commandments.
 
2014-01-06 10:17:23 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-06 10:18:57 PM  

Cagey B: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

The Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people seem to have a far better grasp on what religious freedom means under the Constitution.


What more Satanists, and FSM people don't have laws in the books banning large displays like these.
 
2014-01-06 10:39:29 PM  

letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.


That's ok, Christians aren't people.
 
2014-01-06 10:40:34 PM  
This is just douchery.  The Ten Commandments span two major world religions and are seen as a historic source of law and have historical context in this country.  They would be out of place in a courthouse in Japan just like this dumb thing is out of place in America, especially Oklahoma.

If a bunch of whiny farkers decided to set out on their own and setup Fark-Snarkistan it would be entirely appropriate to have monuments to the FSM in front of their buildings.
 
2014-01-06 10:41:26 PM  
To be completely honest to the "Foundations of Western Civilization" bit that folks trot out every time the Ten Commandments comes up, I agree, partially.  Western Civilization does owe a large debt to the Judaic Tradition symbolized by the Ten Commandments. HOWEVER it is as equally indebted to the pagan Greco-Roman world for the traditions of rational philosophical inquiry and(Greeks) and the rule of law (Romans). Therefore, next to the Ten Commandments should be statues of Athena and Justitia. With their knockers bare in good old pagan fashion, just to bind up the knickers of John Ashcroft et al.
 
2014-01-06 10:44:11 PM  

thotpoizn: or whatever other mob of the righteously indignant


It's always on the non-Christians to act as Christ wanted people to, not his actual followers.

Funny thing, that.

/cry harder
//wasn't going to donate before, but will after reading your post
///love and kisses from Washington
 
2014-01-06 10:47:55 PM  

Harold_of_the_Rocks: To be completely honest to the "Foundations of Western Civilization" bit that folks trot out every time the Ten Commandments comes up, I agree, partially.  Western Civilization does owe a large debt to the Judaic Tradition symbolized by the Ten Commandments. HOWEVER it is as equally indebted to the pagan Greco-Roman world for the traditions of rational philosophical inquiry and(Greeks) and the rule of law (Romans). Therefore, next to the Ten Commandments should be statues of Athena and Justitia. With their knockers bare in good old pagan fashion, just to bind up the knickers of John Ashcroft et al.


You are right.  And I bet Christians won't care a little bit if some Roman goddess of justice were in front of a courthouse.  Ask me how I know this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice
 
2014-01-06 10:48:37 PM  

CivicMindedFive: The Ten Commandments span two major world religions and are seen as a historic source of law


What law? Of the Ten Commandments, only "thou shalt not kill" and "thou shalt not steal" are illegal, and they are illegal in every culture no matter if they've heard of Moses or not. That's silly.

You could make an argument about bearing false witness on your neighbor, but a good attorney can get you out of that one usually.
 
2014-01-06 10:50:34 PM  

NephilimNexus: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

That's ok, Christians aren't people.


True and they don't even follow their own so called religion.

/Oh and letrole: I'm liking this seemingly new/newer talkative thing lately definitely more interesting and more fun.
 
2014-01-06 10:51:00 PM  

redrumten: Telethon to raise money for the new monument to air on HSN!

[24.media.tumblr.com image 288x216]


And a slothful child shall lead them.
 
2014-01-06 10:52:57 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: How about erecting a monument to an Elder God?


I approve of this idea
 
2014-01-06 10:55:43 PM  
By the way, most of the Ten Commandments are stupid. Don't tell me what to do on Sunday, asshole.
 
2014-01-06 10:56:52 PM  

Confabulat: By the way, most of the Ten Commandments are stupid. Don't tell me what to do on Sunday Saturday, asshole.


/FTFY
 
2014-01-06 10:59:20 PM  
Walter Paisley: To be fair, not all forms of Satanism are necessarily defined by Christianity. There are forms of theistic Satanism that view Satan as more of a pagan god that predated Judaism and Christianity. The name Satan is also sometimes interpreted as a bastardization of one of the titles of the Egyptian god Set, that being Set-an (if my memory serves me, this title means "Set is mighty"). Some taking a soft approach to polytheism might also view Satan as a cultural mask of a dark solar god present in many ancient religions and associate him with gods such as Set, Dionysos, Nergal, etc...

I don't doubt someone out there thinks that etymology is reasonable, but it's no secret that "satan" is just a Hebrew word for "adversary".  This is how it's used in the OT, both in reference to an Adversary and in reference to ordinary people standing against something.
 
2014-01-06 11:00:03 PM  
Why would christians be opposed to a statue of satan. He's their supervillan.

Or are they willing to admit that he doesn't actually exist, a fictional character in a book of myths.

They can't have it both ways.
 
2014-01-06 11:03:17 PM  

phrawgh: Confabulat: By the way, most of the Ten Commandments are stupid. Don't tell me what to do on Sunday Saturday, asshole.

/FTFY


yeah as an outsider, i never have figured out which one of those days god really meant. I guess his followers can't decide either.
 
2014-01-06 11:05:46 PM  

ReverendJasen: Badmoodman: letrole: Paganism is not a Religion.

This is probably where you should consult a dictionary.

Don't mind him, letrole is a pedophile.


Fond of bicycles, is he? Pervert.

I mean me. I'm a pervert.
 
2014-01-06 11:13:58 PM  
CM5,you are conflating Christians with fundamentalist Dominionists. The latter believe that their interpretation of Christianity is the very foundation of our nation, not the actual Enlightenment ideals of the Constitution. In fact, they hold the Enlightenment in utter contempt because it is in their minds the root of the Satanic Manchurian Candidate of secular humanism. I sincerely doubt that if you put two equally prominent monuments to rationality and the rule of law in the form of pagan Goddesses right next to their beloved Decalogue that they wouldn't throw a major conniption fit. Ask me how I know that fundamentalists believe this? I was raised one. I got better.
 
2014-01-06 11:17:09 PM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


The Church of Satan is actually a surprisingly compelling religion, quite serious and one most people would probably find quite agreeable in their doctrine. Despite what Hollywood would have you believe, they're not even close to stupid human sacrifice, black candles, black velvet, criminals, etc, etc. They value free will above all else, self-sufficiency, self-improvement, instead of wallowing around moaning to a deity about your fate. They see Satan as an outlier, renegade, and trailblazer and wish to emulate that example, rather than blindly tow the line of Christianity.

It's unamerican to deny any actual faith representation if you give one faith any, although some obviously aren't real faiths.
 
2014-01-07 12:08:03 AM  

Terrible Old Man: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

The Church of Satan is actually a surprisingly compelling religion, quite serious and one most people would probably find quite agreeable in their doctrine. Despite what Hollywood would have you believe, they're not even close to stupid human sacrifice, black candles, black velvet, criminals, etc, etc. They value free will above all else, self-sufficiency, self-improvement, instead of wallowing around moaning to a deity about your fate. They see Satan as an outlier, renegade, and trailblazer and wish to emulate that example, rather than blindly tow the line of Christianity.

It's unamerican to deny any actual faith representation if you give one faith any, although some obviously aren't real faiths.


Yea and whoever did decide Christianity was a real religion? I mean hell most of them don't even practice what's in their own book.
 
2014-01-07 12:20:44 AM  

Mugato: Just don't pretend these are those people's actual religions.


I agree completely. These idiots aren't actually worshiping anyone, they're just jumping on the bandwagon looking for a way to force their idols onto public land. They may claim to have good intentions, but they certainly don't practice that, they just go around protesting everything they dislike and generally try to give everyone else a hard time.

But as long as enough people believe that religious texts are history books rather than story books, the government is legally obligated to accept "christianity" as an actual religion, regardless of how fake they seem.
 
2014-01-07 12:22:53 AM  
static4.fjcdn.com
 
2014-01-07 12:24:12 AM  

Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.


You don't get it at all, do you?
 
2014-01-07 12:25:28 AM  
The sad thing is that the most likely outcome of these continued types of antics is that we end up with a country that's the Christian version of the Middle East.

This isn't going to play out the way you think it is.
 
2014-01-07 12:26:10 AM  
The tight-buttocked, hairy-chested host of hell.
 
2014-01-07 12:28:30 AM  

Close2TheEdge: Mugato: At least Christians were just raised that way. These Satanists and Flying Spaghetti Monster people are just intentionally being dicks on their own.

Let's see.  Christians imposing their narrow ideology on all of us by erecting a statue on a government site.  And doing so thanks to connections with conservative Christian politicians in the State House.

I think your definition of "dick" needs to be revised.


oldspouse.files.wordpress.com

Consult with an authority.
 
2014-01-07 12:31:56 AM  
video game/movie series Final Fantasy 7 summon Bahamut has only roars and flames to say.
 
2014-01-07 12:32:28 AM  

what_now: "This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state," Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville)

Listen, Earl, have you ever read the constitution? You don't even have to read the whole thing, just the first amendment.


I like how they're flat-out admitting that "faith-based" is just another code word for "Christian" now.
 
2014-01-07 12:35:20 AM  

gopher321: Hail Satin!

/amidoinitrite?


It's a very comfortable and pretty fabric, sure.
 
2014-01-07 12:45:30 AM  
Lee451
fusillade762:
Every time I hear someone use the phrase "That's just the way I was raised" to justify their own dickish behavior I want to punch them in the neck.

What is yourjustification for dickish behavior?


The way people saying 'just the way I was raised' were raised.
 
2014-01-07 12:51:49 AM  

tjsands1118: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]
I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.


On the other hand if they did it in gold, Christians could do like Moses, melt it down, and feed it to the misguided (troll) adherents.  Where's your Satan NAAAOOOWW?!
 
2014-01-07 01:00:35 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Weaver95: Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.

Not to mention that Lavey apparently stole a lot of his ideology from ayn rand.

Really? He stole "treat every other living thing with respect" from Ayn Rand?

You're a moran.


At least he's not so moronic he can't grasp what "a lot of" means.  Also, if Ayn Rand has nothing to do with LaVeyism, you might want to inform Wikipedia of this.
 
2014-01-07 01:01:47 AM  
Mugato
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: fusillade762:
I've always loved that commandment. The idea that you can sin just by THINKING something.

In Judaism, coveting is understood to require you to take an action, like, say, sending a soldier out to die so you can take his wife for yourself. It wasn't until Christianity came along that the concept of "thought crimes" was invented. That's why Jesus makes a big deal out of the teaching that looking at a chick and wanting to bang her is as bad as banging her - it was a novel idea.

It's like "thou shall not kill" is really "thou shalt not murder" and includes a laundry list of exceptions. Those Jews sure know how to negotiate.


"Guys, I've good news and bad news. The good news is, I've negotiated Him down to ten. The bad news is, adultery is still one of them."
Kinda explains why Moses spent 40 days on that hill; scratching ten short blurbs into tablets shouldn't have taken that long.
 
2014-01-07 01:53:28 AM  

tjsands1118: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]
I don't know about this statue. It's a pretty horrible design. I mean if they do it in stone I can guarantee you those thin little arms on the kids are going to snap off in no time. And I would hold much hope for the horns lasting long either.


But then again if they did it in bronze it would probably be fine.


In bronze, quenched in the blood of infants.
 
2014-01-07 01:59:04 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: RexTalionis: tinfoil-hat maggie: RexTalionis: [chinastudygroup.net image 628x799]

[webmonkees.com image 775x1024]

Oh pretty I don't know hoe to translate that into a statue but I bet those would look nice hanging in the OK capitals foyer in a prominent place.

I also really like my White Tara statue
[www.dharmasculpture.com image 437x600]

Maybe something like this?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 621x466]

Looks good to me : )

Oh and how could I almost forget one of my other gods.
[coursesite.uhcl.edu image 638x850]


Nijinsky?
 
2014-01-07 02:00:19 AM  
I really am astounded by the poutrage by the 'so called' Christians on this thread not to mention the looneys in Okla. But mostly for the trollists here. There is no doubt about the legitimacy of the Pagans argument here about the 1st amendment..."If YOU can do it in public then why can't I..." We used to have a saying in this country that I might disagree with what you say but I defend to the death your right to say it. Liberals still remember it. Religious fanatics and conservative seem to have forgotten it except when it benefits them...Thats why I'm proudly Liberal and always have/will been. I despise closed minded small brained decrepits! Most so called "Christians" have a lot to learn about what Christ actually said and is what is in our constitution! Open your minds you fools...
 
2014-01-07 02:18:44 AM  
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2014-01-07 03:34:13 AM  

dbrunker: [img.fark.net image 500x382]


You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor*

*Except when advised by your lawyer when he has coveted thy wife.
 
2014-01-07 03:57:50 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: How about erecting a monument to an Elder God?


I don't suppose you could come up with a suitable suggestion?  Any particular one you might be partial to? *wink*
 
2014-01-07 04:07:40 AM  

Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.


Ayn Rand's Objectivism now with added Mumbo Jumbo.
 
2014-01-07 04:08:09 AM  

Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.


So all the ten commandments displays were free?
 
2014-01-07 04:09:48 AM  

Walter Paisley: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

To be fair, not all forms of Satanism are necessarily defined by Christianity. There are forms of theistic Satanism that view Satan as more of a pagan god that predated Judaism and Christianity. The name Satan is also sometimes interpreted as a bastardization of one of the titles of the Egyptian god Set, that being Set-an (if my memory serves me, this title means "Set is mighty"). Some taking a soft approach to polytheism might also view Satan as a cultural mask of a dark solar god present in many ancient religions and associate him with gods such as Set, Dionysos, Nergal, etc...


The questioner or the arguer.
 
2014-01-07 04:21:33 AM  

Harold_of_the_Rocks: To be completely honest to the "Foundations of Western Civilization" bit that folks trot out every time the Ten Commandments comes up, I agree, partially.  Western Civilization does owe a large debt to the Judaic Tradition symbolized by the Ten Commandments. HOWEVER it is as equally indebted to the pagan Greco-Roman world for the traditions of rational philosophical inquiry and(Greeks) and the rule of law (Romans). Therefore, next to the Ten Commandments should be statues of Athena and Justitia. With their knockers bare in good old pagan fashion, just to bind up the knickers of John Ashcroft et al.


Meh, it looks like it all goes back to Egypt through the Minoans.



encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Ever wonder about Moses being from Eqypt?
 
2014-01-07 04:23:39 AM  

ciberido: The My Little Pony Killer: Weaver95: Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.

Not to mention that Lavey apparently stole a lot of his ideology from ayn rand.

Really? He stole "treat every other living thing with respect" from Ayn Rand?

You're a moran.

At least he's not so moronic he can't grasp what "a lot of" means.  Also, if Ayn Rand has nothing to do with LaVeyism, you might want to inform Wikipedia of this.


Morans.

: a small piece of land that is or could be used for buiding something or for some other purpose

: the buildings and land that are owned by a company that makes movies and television programs

: a small object used to choose the person who will do or receive something

Next up, decimate.
 
2014-01-07 04:31:01 AM  

CivicMindedFive: Harold_of_the_Rocks: To be completely honest to the "Foundations of Western Civilization" bit that folks trot out every time the Ten Commandments comes up, I agree, partially.  Western Civilization does owe a large debt to the Judaic Tradition symbolized by the Ten Commandments. HOWEVER it is as equally indebted to the pagan Greco-Roman world for the traditions of rational philosophical inquiry and(Greeks) and the rule of law (Romans). Therefore, next to the Ten Commandments should be statues of Athena and Justitia. With their knockers bare in good old pagan fashion, just to bind up the knickers of John Ashcroft et al.

You are right.  And I bet Christians won't care a little bit if some Roman goddess of justice were in front of a courthouse.  Ask me how I know this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice


www.wpclipart.com

/it all goes back to Egypt
 
2014-01-07 04:32:01 AM  

Confabulat: By the way, most of the Ten Commandments are stupid. Don't tell me what to do on Sunday Saturday, asshole.

FTFY
 
2014-01-07 04:57:36 AM  

Mugato: Weaver95: I think the reason I can't take satanists seriously is because they need Christianity to define themselves. They lock themselves into a mythological cycle that is by and large defined by their avowed enemies.

Well that and they don't actually worship Satan. LeVay just used Satan for the brand recognition.


There are many different kind of Satanists.  The satanic bible, printed by LeVay, is as you mention.  But there are other Satanists that do worship Satan.
 
2014-01-07 05:15:24 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: I see your God, and raise with U235.

[jagatplay.com image 500x281]


Radroach carcass in alley this morning, footprint on burst stomach.
 
2014-01-07 05:19:17 AM  

Yog-Sothoth: Prank Call of Cthulhu: How about erecting a monument to an Elder God?

I approve of this idea


www.rubbersuitstudios.com

The Elder Gods are coming and everyone is doomed.
 
2014-01-07 05:30:05 AM  
I was born in oklahoma and i don't have a single problem with this. I do however have a problem with some of the ways people around here treat other people in the name of religion. My crasy aunt once explained why being racist was ok by using the bible story of noah. Apperently, when noah's son refused to turn away and ignor his father's drunkeness, he was turned black and cursed so everyone would know on sight he was (and his desendances) were to be treated different. Weird lady.
 
2014-01-07 07:16:28 AM  
Anyone else finding that Raw Story articles end up being completely obscured with an advertisement every 5 seconds? Looks like another site to add to the "don't bother clicking" list.
 
2014-01-07 09:16:47 AM  
The Oklahoma Capitol already has swastikas on it, so why do they need a devil statue?

http://www.ed wardcrim.com/Oklahoma_City/large-66.html
 
rpm
2014-01-07 09:18:14 AM  

Yog-Sothoth: Prank Call of Cthulhu: How about erecting a monument to an Elder God?

I approve of this idea


And it could be used as a fundraiser to.

Idol to Yog-Sothoth sponsored by Ivory(tm).
 
2014-01-07 09:44:51 AM  

Lee451: These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.


excuse me - how is putting up a statue "harassing christians?"

considering the fact that you belong to the WORLD'S LARGEST RELIGION, it's amazing how much of a farking persecution complex you have.
 
2014-01-07 09:59:48 AM  

vermicious k'nid: Satanic_Hamster: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 482x638]

Dammit! I had just put that game behind me.
Now I has a sad.


Yep.

Still feels weird to me not to be playing CoH on Wednesday nights.  I mean, I'd play most days/nights anyways, but Wednesdays I had a group night.  Started that group maybe five months into CoH being released and continued on to the end.
 
2014-01-07 10:43:58 AM  

TerminalEchoes: They aren't making a point. They're just being attention-whoring douche bags because life isn't fair or somehing.


Yeah, but then the uppity Satanists started taunting them and making the situation worse.
 
2014-01-07 12:23:42 PM  

redheededstepchild: I was born in oklahoma and i don't have a single problem with this. I do however have a problem with some of the ways people around here treat other people in the name of religion. My crasy aunt once explained why being racist was ok by using the bible story of noah. Apperently, when noah's son refused to turn away and ignor his father's drunkeness, he was turned black and cursed so everyone would know on sight he was (and his desendances) were to be treated different. Weird lady.


Yep, heard that one myself many times, growing up in Oklahoma.  It was Ham, his son Canaan and all their offspring who were known as the tribal name Canaanites, who they believe was forever cursed in such a manner due to pissing off a very pissed (drunk) Noah.  Noah was (depending upon interpretation) either nude, or engaged in some sort of sexual hanky-panky and Ham got his brothers and tossed a blanket on the ol' boy.  Noah wakes up and curses Canaan and the following generations of Canaanites to be slaves, under the "ownership" of Ham's brother's Shem and Japheth.

Centuries later, the Israeli monarchy apparently used this story to defend their subjugation of the Canaanites and enslave them.

Your Aunt wasn't as "weird" as you probably thought, this was taught in nearly every Southern Baptist and fundamentalist church as being an undeniable truth based on the "gospel" for generations.  I can still remember many of my youthful
acquaintances citing to Ham/Canaan for the reason why anyone was black in the first place (referred to them as "bearing the mark of Ham/Canaan").

This was part and parcel of how they also challenged Evolution as this was there means of trying to explain away the various "races."  According to Church teachings, the notion was that after the great flood, everyone was basically "white" but after Ham pissed off Noah and was subsequently cursed, Canaan and the generations descended from him were "cursed" by being made black.

Sad, but true and I bet that there's still more than a few churches in Oklahoma and the south that still hold fast to this view.
 
2014-01-07 05:22:18 PM  

Weaver95: Ayn rand and her objectivist ideology are essentially the same belief system as Lavey and nis flavor of satanism...Lavey even admitted as much. I suppose that's why I'm always confused she's omens says theyre a Christian that mixes rand into their ideology. That's like a black man who joins the kkk to promote racial diversity.


I always describe Satanism to people like this: It's libertarianism + magic.
 
2014-01-07 05:45:23 PM  

Lee451: If atheists,satanists,et al wanted to make a statement, they would take the money they are raising for the goat statue and use it for a real cause, such as the child who cannot blink and needs $20K just to be diagnosed (other link/thread). These people are proud to be harassing Christians when they could be doing actual good.


You want to "fix" the child who cannot blink?  Who will protect us from the Weeping Angels?
 
2014-01-07 11:26:17 PM  
A lot of the farkers who think this is hilarious are the same farkers who get outraged whenever Obama is insulted.
 
2014-01-07 11:41:22 PM  

ciberido: At least he's not so moronic


As long as we both agree that he's a moron then.
 
2014-01-08 01:21:01 AM  

muck4doo: A lot of the farkers who think this is hilarious are the same farkers who get outraged whenever Obama is insulted.


not.
 
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