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(Guardian)   We're all in denial about our drinking habits. Well maybe you are, submitter is a drunk   (theguardian.com) divider line 126
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2014-01-06 04:27:34 PM
I'm a drunk.
 
2014-01-06 04:38:03 PM
Unlike those who go on drinking in denial, people who put down the booze are facing up to their demons and living life without anaesthetic.

1. Most of us drink because we like the taste, not because we feel compelled to.
2. Most of are capable of distinguishing between a relaxed buzz and blackout drunk, and regulating ourselves accordingly.
3. If you're going to take a month off drinking, for God's sake, pick a better month than January - the darkest, coldest, most depressing month of the year.
 
2014-01-06 04:41:34 PM
I drink to make other people tolerable
 
2014-01-06 05:43:06 PM
The other distinction we often fail to make is people who can not handle being awake without a buzz versus people who go to work then go home, make dinner, take care of family duties then maybe drink a 6-pack between 7-10pm every night.
 
2014-01-06 05:51:18 PM
I'm not in denial about my drinking habits. I just deny it to other people, like bosses or cops.
 
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2014-01-06 05:53:27 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I drink to make other people tolerable

 
2014-01-06 05:53:42 PM
I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings.
 
2014-01-06 05:55:25 PM
Oblig

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2014-01-06 05:55:27 PM
I'm a drunk who hasn't had a drink in six days. Planning on not drinking until I get my weight down, because I can't drink and diet. This may take six months.

/Still a drunk
 
2014-01-06 05:55:34 PM

pounddawg: I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings.


Yeah, we drunks go to parties.
 
2014-01-06 05:56:07 PM
According to that commercial I can be cured and all I have to do is give them $40,000 spend 30 days doing yoga and listening to people tell me I'm the best exactly the way I am, I shouldn't change.  I'll stick to drinking.
 
2014-01-06 05:56:24 PM

pounddawg: I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings.


mayIFark: Oblig

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/Note to Self: always check the comments, not just the pictures before posting a picture
 
2014-01-06 05:57:18 PM
We're drunks
 
2014-01-06 05:57:51 PM
I toasted this story. I mean, I printed it out and put it in the toaster. Bad idea. Get me a drink.
 
2014-01-06 05:58:07 PM
What was the Hitchins thing? Was he claiming that alcoholism is imaginary, or that recovery from alcoholism is imaginary?
 
2014-01-06 06:01:23 PM
I drink when I don't have obligations. I was always up front about it when I was dating. Although I have dialed back the saturday morning drunk.
 
2014-01-06 06:03:58 PM
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2014-01-06 06:04:03 PM
I'm suffering through my first hangover in about a year or so. not getting a kick.
 
2014-01-06 06:04:20 PM
CSB time

Last time I had a checkup, it was a new doc. Fresh out of med school - 32 if she's a day.

She checked my vitals and said "Well, you're over 40 now, we need to do some blood work.  Your medical history - check check check - Family medical history - scribble scribble scribble.  Hey, it says here you manage a wine bar.  How much would you say you drink?"
"Oh, a half-bottle to a bottle a day."
"Really?!?!?"
"Yeah..." (I'm feeling a little defensive at this point)
"OK, I'm checking everything on your liver - check check check check check check check."

I go in to the lab two days later, have 4 tubes of blood pulled, and schedule a followup.  Docs sits down next to me with a file folder and says, "I have to be honest with you.  You're over 40, you drink a half-bottle of wine or more every day, and your liver function puts mine to shame. I have nothing to tell you except 'Keep Drinking'!"

I looked at the details - she was right.  One enzyme was supposed to be 200 ppm to 400 ppm.  I was at 301.

/CSB

tl;dr version - my liver is the strongest organ in my body
 
2014-01-06 06:05:39 PM
I dont drink  (hate the taste of alcohol)
I live in Texas.
Have to keep it hush-hush and must live in constant fear of the rednecks(or cowboys, they call themselves) finding out and throwing me out of the state
 
2014-01-06 06:06:18 PM
I drink, therefore I am (drunk)

/not yet, but working on it
//insomnia is a biatch
 
2014-01-06 06:08:27 PM

FrancoFile: CSB time

Last time I had a checkup, it was a new doc. Fresh out of med school - 32 if she's a day.

She checked my vitals and said "Well, you're over 40 now, we need to do some blood work.  Your medical history - check check check - Family medical history - scribble scribble scribble.  Hey, it says here you manage a wine bar.  How much would you say you drink?"
"Oh, a half-bottle to a bottle a day."
"Really?!?!?"
"Yeah..." (I'm feeling a little defensive at this point)
"OK, I'm checking everything on your liver - check check check check check check check."

I go in to the lab two days later, have 4 tubes of blood pulled, and schedule a followup.  Docs sits down next to me with a file folder and says, "I have to be honest with you.  You're over 40, you drink a half-bottle of wine or more every day, and your liver function puts mine to shame. I have nothing to tell you except 'Keep Drinking'!"

I looked at the details - she was right.  One enzyme was supposed to be 200 ppm to 400 ppm.  I was at 301.

/CSB

tl;dr version - my liver is the strongest organ in my body


Yeah, I was drinking about twice that much until recently, I'm over 50, and my liver function is 100 percent normal. It sneaks up on you, though, is my understanding, plus your cancer risk goes way up. My biggest health problem related to drinking is obesity, which drives up my chances of diabetes. If I lose 30 pounds, though, I'm going to try to start drinking again, more moderately.
 
2014-01-06 06:08:31 PM
I drink maybe once every two months. Don't like the taste of alcohol, so that pretty much seals it for me.
 
2014-01-06 06:09:23 PM
once they have taken that first drink, they know they can't stop. . . . We still shrink from the idea that some human beings cannot drink safely, and that this is an illness.

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2014-01-06 06:11:39 PM

Confabulat: I'm not in denial about my drinking habits. I just deny it to other people, like bosses or cops.

 
2014-01-06 06:15:22 PM
FTFA: "[O]nce they have taken that first drink, they know they can't stop."

This is such bullshiat. Where does such propaganda come from? I have never kept drinking till the last drop in the house was gone, nor have I spent every penny in my pockets in a bar. In fact most nights I cut myself off at a certain point, going by how I feel, so as to avoid a hangover, and there's no way anybody could call me an unusually disciplined drinker.

Do many of you Farkers actually drink so helplessly? Do you suck it down until it's all gone or until you're physically unable to have one more drink? Some of the most inveterate drunks I've known would stand up, walk to the bathroom, then put themselves to bed, leaving half a beer or or more sitting there. As opposed to, say, draining the glass, falling to the floor and wetting themselves.

My hunch tells me that if "being unable to stop a drinking session" is the definition of alcoholism then very few people in AA are true alcoholics.
 
2014-01-06 06:16:21 PM

mbillips: I'm a drunk who hasn't had a drink in six days. Planning on not drinking until I get my weight down, because I can't drink and diet. This may take six months.


I'll be happy to drink your share. Send it right over!
 
2014-01-06 06:18:22 PM
The last year I have really cut back on my drinking. Ive been alone a lot since the GF is out of town and I hate drinking alone. I hate the fact that I cant keep any alcohol in my house because my full on raging alkie roomate will drink anything she can get her hands on. I did get a bottle of rum last week and have kept it locked up in my strong box. It is why I hate going out with my roomate she cant just catch a nice buzz she has to drink til she turns into a coont.
 
2014-01-06 06:18:28 PM

mbillips: I'm a drunk who hasn't had a drink in six days. Planning on not drinking until I get my weight down, because I can't drink and diet. This may take six months.

/Still a drunk


I'm in the same boat. When I drink, I get strange food cravings. Much like people smoke and drink I allow myself to indulge when imbibing. Cheesy foods and starches, especially.
 
2014-01-06 06:19:18 PM
Melissa Downer.
 
2014-01-06 06:20:40 PM
Alcoholic is one of those self diagnoses that has largely become meaningless these days.

Jim doesn't drink during the week, but he usually gets drunk on the weekends.  He's an alcoholic.  Jill only drinks a few times a year, but when she does, she doesn't know when to stop.  She's an alcoholic.  Billy likes to drink by himself sometimes, he's an alcoholic.  Susie hides the liquor bottles when her parents stop by for a visit, she's an alcoholic.
 
2014-01-06 06:21:21 PM
MiL: Stoney, do you struggle with your drinking?
Me: No.
 
2014-01-06 06:25:04 PM

FrancoFile: One enzyme was supposed to be 200 ppm to 400 ppm.  I was at 301.



I had that test with similar results a couple years ago (age 43) after twenty years of a pint of rum a day in the form of rum & diet coke.

It's my kidneys that concern me more these days though and I've cut the drinking to every other night at most.

Probably will quit entirely.  It's not that I felt bad every morning after drinking, it's just that I feel great those mornings after not drinking.  Plus, I don't smoke when I don't drink, so that's a bonus.
 
2014-01-06 06:26:30 PM
I felt the same way as the lady in the article.  I would only drink if I knew I could get drunk.  Having a beer after work or at an office party with coworkers wasn't an option... until I had liver damage due to a broken rib puncturing it last spring.  For the first 3 months, I wasn't allowed to drink at all.  After that, I was allowed (and somewhat encouraged) to have 1 dark beer (or glass of wine, but ...bleeeech) a day.  I still went to the bars with my friends.  Drank a ton of water instead.  Everytime I felt I needed a drink, I'd have a water.  Tip the bartender a dollar and they were happy, too.

For the last month, I've been given a clean bill of health.  I've gone out drinking 3 times.  I've also gone out "not drinking" many more times, where I have 3 beers or less in a 4hour trip.  I no longer feel the need to have one after the other like I used to.  Your mileage may very, as we're all different, but breaking the cycle and realizing that it was the social aspect, not necessarily the drinking aspect, is what I really enjoyed.
 
2014-01-06 06:28:03 PM
Sitting at Smith and Wollensky's right now putting down Manhattans. No problems here.
 
2014-01-06 06:28:07 PM

jaylectricity: then maybe drink a 6-pack between 7-10pm every night.


I think that would burn through my yearly beer allotment in about a week....
 
2014-01-06 06:28:54 PM
I don't drink.
 
2014-01-06 06:30:20 PM

FrancoFile: CSB time

Last time I had a checkup, it was a new doc. Fresh out of med school - 32 if she's a day.

She checked my vitals and said "Well, you're over 40 now, we need to do some blood work.  Your medical history - check check check - Family medical history - scribble scribble scribble.  Hey, it says here you manage a wine bar.  How much would you say you drink?"
"Oh, a half-bottle to a bottle a day."
"Really?!?!?"
"Yeah..." (I'm feeling a little defensive at this point)
"OK, I'm checking everything on your liver - check check check check check check check."

I go in to the lab two days later, have 4 tubes of blood pulled, and schedule a followup.  Docs sits down next to me with a file folder and says, "I have to be honest with you.  You're over 40, you drink a half-bottle of wine or more every day, and your liver function puts mine to shame. I have nothing to tell you except 'Keep Drinking'!"

I looked at the details - she was right.  One enzyme was supposed to be 200 ppm to 400 ppm.  I was at 301.

/CSB

tl;dr version - my liver is the strongest organ in my body


Drinking is exercise for the liver :)

She probably measured your bilirubin levels.  Mine was normal as well, but my ALT and AST were both more than double the upper limit.
 
2014-01-06 06:30:42 PM
hmm... am I a drunk?

*taps foot... thinks deeply*

yep... yes... I am a complete drunk. Now if you'll leave me and my gallon of Vodak to our business. I bid you farewell
 
2014-01-06 06:33:03 PM
I like the red flag "do you have a drink in the morning to 'take the edge off?'" Never. So I don't have a problem. Also, this is relevant:

Do you have a drinking problem?
 
2014-01-06 06:34:14 PM
I'm pretty sure I had the flu last week.  But for some time I was seriously worried it was withdrawal after stopping drinking on January 1 (trying to go a month without drinking, already failed).  The symptoms are remarkably similar and I couldn't remember the last day I'd not had at least 2/3 drinks.
 
2014-01-06 06:35:11 PM

abmoraz: FrancoFile: CSB time

Last time I had a checkup, it was a new doc. Fresh out of med school - 32 if she's a day.

She checked my vitals and said "Well, you're over 40 now, we need to do some blood work.  Your medical history - check check check - Family medical history - scribble scribble scribble.  Hey, it says here you manage a wine bar.  How much would you say you drink?"
"Oh, a half-bottle to a bottle a day."
"Really?!?!?"
"Yeah..." (I'm feeling a little defensive at this point)
"OK, I'm checking everything on your liver - check check check check check check check."

I go in to the lab two days later, have 4 tubes of blood pulled, and schedule a followup.  Docs sits down next to me with a file folder and says, "I have to be honest with you.  You're over 40, you drink a half-bottle of wine or more every day, and your liver function puts mine to shame. I have nothing to tell you except 'Keep Drinking'!"

I looked at the details - she was right.  One enzyme was supposed to be 200 ppm to 400 ppm.  I was at 301.

/CSB

tl;dr version - my liver is the strongest organ in my body

Drinking is exercise for the liver :)

She probably measured your bilirubin levels.  Mine was normal as well, but my ALT and AST were both more than double the upper limit.


She measured *everything*.  17 line-items in the report.

Of course I also eat a largely Mediterranean diet.
 
2014-01-06 06:43:59 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I drink to make other people tolerable


Everybody go home...Maudlin ended the thread.

/My egotistical excuse as well fine Sir, or Ma'am
//I need new friends
///I'm drunk so often I don't care
 
2014-01-06 06:47:35 PM

stevenvictx: I dont drink  (hate the taste of alcohol)
I live in Texas.
Have to keep it hush-hush and must live in constant fear of the rednecks(or cowboys, they call themselves) finding out and throwing me out of the state


This right here. I don't live in Texas, but when I refuse an offer of alcohol, the common response is "Why, what's wrong?". Nothings wrong dumbass, I just don't drink.  Usually followed up with an enlightened "ohhhhh, I get it, You're a recovering alcoholic!"

/No, no I'm not. You're a farking alcoholic though.
 
2014-01-06 06:47:47 PM

jaylectricity: The other distinction we often fail to make is people who can not handle being awake without a buzz versus people who go to work then go home, make dinner, take care of family duties then maybe drink a 6-pack between 7-10pm every night.


I'd fall into that catetory, but not a nightly one. All my shiat for the day is done, and a happy, content buzz puts me in a creative mood for other things to think about.
 
2014-01-06 06:48:50 PM
Im gonna drink and if you neoprohibitionists have a problem with that go fark yourself.
 
2014-01-06 06:49:31 PM

bborchar: I drink maybe once every two months. Don't like the taste of alcohol, so that pretty much seals it for me.


Dont like the taste? Nobody likes the damn taste. Have you ever seen a person do a shot of tequila and say "my thats lovely, tastes like happy" I didnt think so.
 
2014-01-06 06:51:28 PM

Kit Fister: I don't drink.


OK. What else then? Everyone has a vice. Come now, tell us.
 
2014-01-06 06:51:54 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Unlike those who go on drinking in denial, people who put down the booze are facing up to their demons and living life without anaesthetic.

1. Most of us drink because we like the taste, not because we feel compelled to.
2. Most of are capable of distinguishing between a relaxed buzz and blackout drunk, and regulating ourselves accordingly.
3. If you're going to take a month off drinking, for God's sake, pick a better month than January - the darkest, coldest, most depressing month of the year.


1.  blech.  alcohol tastes terrible.
2.  Most Marines can't distinguish between buzz, blackout, or liver failure.  I was in from '81-'87
3.  Hangovers.  just could not keep having hangovers.
4.  stopped drinking before I got out of the Corp.
 
2014-01-06 06:52:30 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Unlike those who go on drinking in denial, people who put down the booze are facing up to their demons and living life without anaesthetic.


That's a cool quote, does it go on to describe their rejection of coffee and asprin as well? Gotta face up to life without help, it's the only bootstrappy thing to do!
 
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