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(Patheos)   Seminary professor announces that he will "live like an atheist" for a year as an experiment. Step 1: Facing religious bigotry as your seminary fires you less than a week into the experiment   (patheos.com) divider line 347
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2014-01-06 02:10:57 PM
I think he'll find it enlightening.
 
2014-01-06 02:11:22 PM
He's gonna pop!
 
2014-01-06 02:11:38 PM
What.... what even..... the hell did I just read? Really..... WTF is this??
 
2014-01-06 02:12:04 PM
LOL

So very Christ-like.

Here's some trivia for you: Jesus hated anyone that wasn't a Christian.
 
2014-01-06 02:12:21 PM
It's not religious bigotry when a seminary fires you as a Pastor because of your religious beliefs.
 
2014-01-06 02:13:09 PM
Not teaching at a seminary sounds like part of living like an atheist.
 
2014-01-06 02:14:05 PM
I'm guessing this experience of being fired will have its own chapter.
 
2014-01-06 02:14:15 PM
How does one live like an atheist? Stop praying and going to church?
 
2014-01-06 02:14:39 PM
How does one "live like an atheist"?  Most Christians don't go to church, don't talk about Jesus much, and pretty much ignore Christ's teaching.
 
2014-01-06 02:15:19 PM
Yes, not doing my job is...an EXPERIMENT...to prove how important my job is. That's it.  See you in 6 months.
 
2014-01-06 02:15:21 PM
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2014-01-06 02:15:58 PM

EvilEgg: How does one "live like an atheist"?  Most Christians don't go to church, don't talk about Jesus much, and pretty much ignore Christ's teaching.


I thought about it, and I decided he could read the Bible, that's one thing many atheists do that Christians don't.
 
2014-01-06 02:17:34 PM
Sky Cake!

"That sh&t [religion] was going on all over the planet. They would tell them about sky cookies, or sky pie, or sky baklava. And as each of these civilizations grew, they built ships; they'd go visit each other, and the one guy would walk off the boat and go,'Hey, did you hear the good news about the sky baklava?' and the first guy went,'It's CAKE, motherf%&ker! You're dead!"
 -God (Patton Oswalt)
 
2014-01-06 02:18:01 PM

TheOnion: How does one live like an atheist? Stop praying and going to church?


Stay home on sunday (or Saturday, since he's a Seventh Day guy), watch football, protest another public nativity scene when the Christians want to play "We're the best religion and we're going to prove it by displays like this."
 
2014-01-06 02:18:46 PM

TheOnion: How does one live like an atheist? Stop praying and going to church?


You also have to loudly inform everyone within hearing range that you are an atheist, and sue anyone who puts up any kind of religious display.

Or so I've been told.
 
2014-01-06 02:19:12 PM
ftfa:

I don't think you can even pretend to be an atheist simply by reading books by atheist authors and attending atheist gatherings when your religious beliefs are still somewhere in the back of your mind - but I still applauded the fact that he was exploring atheism and wanted to learn more about it.

Who does this shiat?  Atheism is simply the non-belief in the supernatural, what is there to discuss? Sounds like a lame circle-jerk.

I think the experiment is a fail because these people are not representative of the vast majority of atheists.
 
2014-01-06 02:20:14 PM

HotWingConspiracy: LOL

So very Christ-like.

Here's some trivia for you: Jesus hated anyone that wasn't a Christian.


He doesn't hate them. He loves them. Just because he sends them into a lake of fire for eternity doesn't mean he hates them.
 
2014-01-06 02:20:24 PM

Captain Darling: Not teaching at a seminary sounds like part of living like an atheist.


Yep.  Also, how exactly does one live as an atheist?  I don't go to atheist lectures or clubs, apparently I'm doing it wrong?
 
2014-01-06 02:20:41 PM
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2014-01-06 02:21:11 PM

TheOnion: How does one live like an atheist? Stop praying and going to church?



Dear God I don't believe in...
*wink wink*
Please DON'T watch over me or my family...
*wink wink*
Amen

Just like a real atheist does!
 
2014-01-06 02:21:18 PM
But the atheists will find out he's not really one of them when he refuses to sacrifice the Christian baby on the altar of Science!
What will he do then?
 
2014-01-06 02:22:09 PM
Sounds like they're helping him get into character.
 
2014-01-06 02:22:28 PM
You're either on the bus or your not. I got off on an early stop.
 
2014-01-06 02:23:17 PM

manbart: ftfa:

I don't think you can even pretend to be an atheist simply by reading books by atheist authors and attending atheist gatherings when your religious beliefs are still somewhere in the back of your mind - but I still applauded the fact that he was exploring atheism and wanted to learn more about it.

Who does this shiat?  Atheism is simply the non-belief in the supernatural, what is there to discuss? Sounds like a lame circle-jerk.

I think the experiment is a fail because these people are not representative of the vast majority of atheists.


"Live like an athiest straw man we can make fun of"

Really, this is worse than those "live like a homeless/poor person" articles. And that is setting the bar low.
 
2014-01-06 02:23:26 PM
Yeah, that certainly won't color his perceptions any.

Personally, I don't know how my old Bible professor kept his job at my college since he would say openly "Alcohol ain't going to send you to hell."
 
2014-01-06 02:23:49 PM
Right on par. You're living the dream!
 
2014-01-06 02:24:55 PM

Captain Darling: Not teaching at a seminary sounds like part of living like an atheist.


Ding Ding Ding

If he really wanted to "live as an atheist", and not just, you know, research it like a non-attention-whoring person would do then NOT being employed by a religious organization should be an expected part of that "living as" arrangement.  Are we supposed to feel sympathy for him?
 
2014-01-06 02:24:57 PM
EvilEgg: How does one "live like an atheist"?

Eating newborn babies is a start.
 
2014-01-06 02:26:33 PM

TheOnion: How does one live like an atheist? Stop praying and going to church?


In the previous article, he notes he will stop attending church, cease praying, cease praising or otherwise referring to a deity as the cause of events, not read the Bible, read numerous texts from atheistic philosophies and atheist-specific philosophers, attend atheist gatherings, and attempt to speak with as many atheists as possible during this time. While there is an initial smattering of 'doing-it-wrong', he was questioning his beliefs before this process, and any attempt to live as something else as a trial means a lack of acceptance of the beliefs of this something else, or lack of beliefs in this circumstance. As far as anyone may be said to, this is as solid an attempt to live as an atheist as is possible, and he seems honest about his want to explore his own faith, especially the wavering aspect, and atheism.

This is what I remember doing in my early teens, once I found being an atheist was an option and my disenchantment with Christianity did not mean I had to replace with Islam, Buddhism, etc..
 
2014-01-06 02:27:42 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Captain Darling: Not teaching at a seminary sounds like part of living like an atheist.

Yep.  Also, how exactly does one live as an atheist?  I don't go to atheist lectures or clubs, apparently I'm doing it wrong?


Your absence from the meetings has been noted, believe me.
 
2014-01-06 02:28:08 PM
He's going to try talking to people nice even though they're not of his race, stop telling them what to think, let them decide for themselves. Wait....that reminds me of someone's teachings.
 
2014-01-06 02:28:36 PM

jigger: HotWingConspiracy: LOL

So very Christ-like.

Here's some trivia for you: Jesus hated anyone that wasn't a Christian.

He doesn't hate them. He loves them. Just because he sends them into a lake of fire for eternity doesn't mean he hates them.


Technically, Christians believe that Jesus tries to get people to go to heaven but they choose the lake of eternal fire.
 
2014-01-06 02:29:16 PM

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I bet that goes over great with all the wannabe psdeudo-intellectual libertarians sisterfarkers on your facebook wall doesn't it.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."

Neil deGrasse Tyson -
 
2014-01-06 02:31:27 PM

Vangor: This is what I remember doing in my early teens, once I found being an atheist was an option and my disenchantment with Christianity did not mean I had to replace with Islam, Buddhism, etc..


you know what I did in my early twenties?  Nothing, I just kind of stopped thinking about religion entirely.  It just didn't really come up.  I stopped going to church after moving out of my parents house.  I just plain don't think about why I don't believe.  I don't have to be defensive enough about it to read on it or protest some church.

I'm more of the meh thinking on religion.
 
2014-01-06 02:31:43 PM
Ftfa: Just days after he made his announcement, they fired him until he rededicates himself to Jesus

I'm not seeing a problem here. He should just tell them that he dropped the experiment and keep going in secret. That way he'll get his job back, he gets to experience the need to keep his opinions secret for fear of persecution and he gets to examine if atheists really are untrustworthy scumbags who would lie because it is easier than telling the truth.
 
2014-01-06 02:32:57 PM
So he's staying out of foxholes for the next year?  Sounds like a pretty sane thing to do.
 
2014-01-06 02:33:56 PM

Satanic_Hamster: I don't go to atheist lectures or clubs, apparently I'm doing it wrong?


Be mindful, his world-view is one of having been a pastor and professor in what is a rather structured denomination of Protestantism. For one to live as a member of any faith would be to steep themselves in the ritual and practices and representations of belief. Without solid ritual and practices and belief, this is what he has chosen.
 
2014-01-06 02:34:03 PM
Given that theology is "is the systematic and study of the concepts of God and the nature of religious truths" and that atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of those concepts and beliefs, I can understand him being let go from a Theological Seminary. His stance is akin to going to basketball camp and rejecting the concept of all sports yet expecting to be able to still play the game and get paid to do it.
 
2014-01-06 02:34:31 PM
I'm having a hard time sympathizing with this guy... seems like he's just an AW.

WTF does it even mean to "live like an atheist"? Is he really planning to attend our Tuesday Night Potluck and Abortion Dinners?

And the fact that he says that it's only for a year pretty much eliminates the possibility that he's going into his little experiment with anything resembling an open mind.
 
2014-01-06 02:34:55 PM

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Reverse CDP does not work.
/Mainly because the creationist demotivational does not, in any way, resemble a parodic take on evolution, biology, or astrophysics.
//Science, martherfarker. It works.
 
2014-01-06 02:35:37 PM

meanmutton: jigger: HotWingConspiracy: LOL

So very Christ-like.

Here's some trivia for you: Jesus hated anyone that wasn't a Christian.

He doesn't hate them. He loves them. Just because he sends them into a lake of fire for eternity doesn't mean he hates them.

Technically, Christians believe that Jesus tries to get people to go to heaven but they choose the lake of eternal fire.


So Jesus/God is impotent?  He has no power to stop a person from going to hell? Why pray to him if he's impotent?
 
2014-01-06 02:35:44 PM

DerAppie: Ftfa: Just days after he made his announcement, they fired him until he rededicates himself to Jesus

I'm not seeing a problem here. He should just tell them that he dropped the experiment and keep going in secret. That way he'll get his job back, he gets to experience the need to keep his opinions secret for fear of persecution and he gets to examine if atheists really are untrustworthy scumbags who would lie because it is easier than telling the truth.


yeah, I'm of the opinion that you don't get to skip out on a huge aspect of your job as an "experiment" and expect to remain employed.
 
2014-01-06 02:36:06 PM
For f*ck sake.  You want to live like an atheist?  Then continue what you are doing.  Plenty of worshipful people have come to the inner conclusion that god is not real, but change absolutely nothing.  I don't believe in God, but that doesn't stop me from cooking up a hell of a Seder dinner with my Mom and fasting on Yom Kippur.  I don't do it because I believe that God will have me die by fire, or drowning or wild beast.  But rather, I love my family, and the traditions and the food.  I think there is value in traditions that bind us to generations past.  Some are bad or dangerous and should be thrown away, but some are lovely.

The mark of a good religious experience is that you still find it enjoyable after you become an atheist.
 
2014-01-06 02:36:15 PM
Next up, he can pretend to be gay... the same good Christians who fired him and turned him on to the street would happily beat the crap out of him on that same street... because that's how Jesus would want it.
 
2014-01-06 02:38:04 PM

ArgusRun: For f*ck sake.  You want to live like an atheist?  Then continue what you are doing.  Plenty of worshipful people have come to the inner conclusion that god is not real, but change absolutely nothing.  I don't believe in God, but that doesn't stop me from cooking up a hell of a Seder dinner with my Mom and fasting on Yom Kippur.  I don't do it because I believe that God will have me die by fire, or drowning or wild beast.  But rather, I love my family, and the traditions and the food.  I think there is value in traditions that bind us to generations past.  Some are bad or dangerous and should be thrown away, but some are lovely.

The mark of a good religious experience is that you still find it enjoyable after you become an atheist.


As a Catholic, the mark of a good religious experience is that you know you should be ashamed of yourself if you enjoyed it, as all enjoyable things are sinful.
 
2014-01-06 02:38:54 PM
Did anybody posit that the university may have 'fired' him as part of the experiment?
 
2014-01-06 02:39:19 PM
Maybe he's doing this in reverse:

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2014-01-06 02:39:47 PM
The internet has made me "hard", right now I think this guy is just being a troll.
 
2014-01-06 02:40:01 PM
Ummm - this is crap....the guy's entire career is based around teaching and advising in religious matters.  Now he's spending a year 'as an atheist' - whatever that means.  To most people, that means he doesn't believe in God.  And that is contradictory to his career.

I'm a software developer.  If I decide to spend a year 'Not using Technology' I'd expect to be fired too.
 
2014-01-06 02:40:05 PM

Vangor: Satanic_Hamster: I don't go to atheist lectures or clubs, apparently I'm doing it wrong?

Be mindful, his world-view is one of having been a pastor and professor in what is a rather structured denomination of Protestantism. For one to live as a member of any faith would be to steep themselves in the ritual and practices and representations of belief. Without solid ritual and practices and belief, this is what he has chosen.


Every night, I put a few cd's into the turn table, open a beer, and play Counter Strike.  Does that count?
 
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