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(News 10 ABC Sacramento)   Group of mentally disabled adults kicked out of McDonald's because of A) discrimination; B) food fight; or C) shortage of Happy Meal toys   (news10.net) divider line 196
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2014-01-06 03:57:59 PM  

Lady Indica: I went to a Catholic HS that was not close to my home, so I had to take public transportation early on and then later again when I farked up my car. The morning bus had a large group of disabled adults (all with various forms of mental retardation). They could be extremely loud sometimes, but they were NEVER a problem. The only 'problem' they ever presented was being loud and occasionally having arguments where one didn't want to sit with others, or the one couple among them would be overly affectionate (not like teenage PDAs, more like little kids with crushes being loud and cute).

But these were big retarded adults and even though they took this same bus every single day to their job (they all worked in the same program, not sure what they did I felt it was rude to be too nosey about it) at least once a week there'd be some able bodied jackass who'd be a jackass. Sometimes it was just stares, mutters, and other shiat. Sometimes they'd actually flip out on the bus driver and make comments about how 'these people' should be on a short yellow bus or some shiat.

And this group knew it, they were not oblivious to this shiat. And they'd mock them so hard, it was hilarious. It was like watching a clique of kids just demolish a pain in the ass adult.

They sometimes made me feel uncomfortable, not because they were doing anything wrong, but because I felt awkward and unsure what to do. Or couldn't tune them out because they were noisy. But none of this was THEIR problem, and I never made it such.

I've never seen a group of adults disabled in this way EVER create a problem in a public space beyond what I mentioned. It intrudes on people's comfort zones, and so the fark what...that's not their problem. And I'd take them over rowdy teens every single day of the week, or crying children. And if I lived locally I'd be making sure everyone boycotted the fark out of that McDonalds.


wonderful post. i award you the internets.
 
2014-01-06 03:58:33 PM  
Anybody remember Violent Acres? "Lady, control your tard!"
 
2014-01-06 04:00:21 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: How could they tell there was a food fight? Was the lobby slightly messier than usual?


Hi how are you?
 
2014-01-06 04:01:33 PM  
We have numerous mentally handicapped clients that come into the movie theater where I work on a daily basis. It's a popular place for the aides to bring them, not because the clients want to be there, or even have the capacity to sit still for 2 hours and not be disruptive, but because the aides who assist the clients get in for free per the ADA law. Many times the aides assisting these people bring them into R rated films that are clearly disturbing, scary, or at least grossly inappropriate for the mentally handicapped to be watching. So of course the aide brings the client into Texas Chainsaw Slasherfest on Elm Street 5, and does not care when the handicapped person starts behaving disruptively, and then get indignant when we tell them they need to calm their client down or leave.

It's not the mentally handicapped persons fault that they are disruptive, it is the fault of the caregivers for being unwilling or unable to operate within the limitations of what each individual person is capable of, and see the job of taking care of these people as an easy way to get free movies or free meals, or whatever. Of course, there's no oversight when it comes to how these people are taken care of, and the governments solution is to just keep throwing money at these negligent operations that take care of the mentally handicapped.
 
2014-01-06 04:01:33 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: EdNortonsTwin: EdNortonsTwin: Just because they're retarded, doesn't mean their too stupid to play the victim card.

*sigh*


Is anyone wronged for anything anymore? You all play the "you're playing the victim" card so much that its MORE worn out than the victim card.


You're the real victim for pointing that out.
 
2014-01-06 04:02:13 PM  

caddisfly: Lady, control your tard!


Well shiat, that foundation cost her $140
 
2014-01-06 04:02:19 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: EdNortonsTwin: EdNortonsTwin: Just because they're retarded, doesn't mean their too stupid to play the victim card.

*sigh*


Is anyone wronged for anything anymore? You all play the "you're playing the victim" card so much that its MORE worn out than the victim card.


They were asked to leave McDonald's, now they won't go back. Was anyone actually wronged here? Probably did them a favor...
 
2014-01-06 04:02:46 PM  
McDonald's is ONE FRY SHORT of a Happy Meal
 
2014-01-06 04:03:37 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: simkatu: 3.) You are a massive douche?

/If you are a patron that is disturbed by a handicapped person making funny noises then screw you, seriously.

Wait...I'm a douche because I pointed out that it's possible this lady was lying? Or am I a douche because I like to eat in peace? Dude, I'm a douche for a lot of reasons...this ain't one of 'em.


Somebody must think that manners and inside voices are for classy places, like Applebee's and the Outback, and not for fast food restaurants like McDonald's.  And if you disagree, you're a douche.
 
2014-01-06 04:03:55 PM  

EWreckedSean: DROxINxTHExWIND: EdNortonsTwin: EdNortonsTwin: Just because they're retarded, doesn't mean their too stupid to play the victim card.

*sigh*


Is anyone wronged for anything anymore? You all play the "you're playing the victim" card so much that its MORE worn out than the victim card.

They were asked to leave McDonald's, now they won't go back. Was anyone actually wronged here? Probably did them a favor...



Touche'
 
2014-01-06 04:09:04 PM  
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2014-01-06 04:09:58 PM  
So they were kicked out before for causing a disturbance, so they go back?

Seems like the caretaker of the group is trying to make a statement at her charges expense.
 
2014-01-06 04:11:16 PM  

Pangea: natazha: I've seen caretakers just sit and munch away while their "clients" toss food, bang on their trays, scream, throw tantrums, etc.

Those are called "parents." Those "clients" are often referred to as "children"


Stories like this just make it more difficult to deal with people misbehaving because they'll play the victim card when you try to stop their crap.
 
2014-01-06 04:11:48 PM  
As a retard who just got home from throwing food at McDonalds patrons, I'm getting a kick.....
 
2014-01-06 04:14:34 PM  

Lady Indica: I bet they have security footage inside the McDonalds...most do. That would pretty much end any speculation over what actually did or did not happen.

/doesn't buy that they were that disruptive


Neither do I. Besides, lots of those places are freakin' zoos, anyway.

 
2014-01-06 04:15:23 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: simkatu: Sin_City_Superhero: What's the more likely scenario:

1.) McDonald's manager kicks out a group of paying regulars who are quietly enjoying their lunch, because they appear to be retarded

or...

2.) A group of retards got loud and rowdy, disrupting business and disturbing other patrons?

3.) You are a massive douche?

/If you are a patron that is disturbed by a handicapped person making funny noises then screw you, seriously.

And this. All of this.


yeah, it's not like there were a bunch of midgets there
 
2014-01-06 04:15:51 PM  
They're retards, they won't remember it happened the next day.
 
2014-01-06 04:19:24 PM  
CSB

I was managing a  bar/restuarant on Bourbon St. when a couple came in with three mentally disabled adults.  The parents/caretakers said they loved piano music so they were bringing them there. Fortunately for me I managed the Bourbon St. side and no where near the piano bar.

So about an hour later one goes to the bathroom and smears shiat all over the walls, and one of the waiter's brings him to the table, and the caretaker says "he does that" with no offer to go and clean said shiat off of the wall.

Then in this smoky, crowded den of voice one of the disabled adults jumps up and starts doing his rendition of Snoopy's happy dancy knocking about six tables over.

They were asked to leave, and the victim card came out.  They were going to the news, call the newspapers, because they were being discriminated against.

The GM came out and said he would be happy to call the police and the papers and let them know what great parents they were by taking the snowflakes into a barroom.

I can have a lot of tolerance with mentally disabled and just normally intelligent dumbasses.  But neither get free hall passes to act like whirling dervishes.
 
2014-01-06 04:19:28 PM  
McDonald's can easily clear their name by showing a video of the incident, at least if they keep records of those security camera feeds. If the group was really being rowdy, you can't really blame McDonald's for kicking them out. The manager said there was a food fight that happened.

Let's say you're eating and then a group of people starting having a food fight, and then onions, pieces of meat, and all sorts of condiments started raining on you. You would probably consider leaving the place, or if you can't control yourself, you might get really angry and confront the people. Having a bunch of very disruptive people can damage a business.

For a big company like McDonald's, you can be sure that they're all about equality and sucking the money out of everyone, whether you're able minded or not. It's really just hard to let people eat in your restaurant if they're causing other people a lot of problems. It's different from some kid who's just crying non-stop or some mentally challenged kid trying to eat his table. Those can be easily excused, but food turned into projectiles are definitely harder to deal with.
 
2014-01-06 04:20:26 PM  

Dinjiin: Pangea: natazha: I've seen caretakers just sit and munch away while their "clients" toss food, bang on their trays, scream, throw tantrums, etc.

Those are called "parents." Those "clients" are often referred to as "children"

Stories like this just make it more difficult to deal with people misbehaving because they'll play the victim card when you try to stop their crap.


I just meant that this loud disturbing behavior isn't restricted to handicapped people. And sometimes indignant mothers get off the chain if anyone has a problem with their kids . "Them's MY farkING KIDS!" as if that means anything to someone who is bothered.

Personally, if I'm disturbed by someone in a fast food restaurant I just hurry up and get out of there. It's not worth a fight and I don't know what anybody is going through at any particular moment. It sort of comes with the territory of interacting with the real world, IMHO.
 
2014-01-06 04:20:30 PM  
Never go full McRetard.
 
2014-01-06 04:21:23 PM  
Look at that retard eating that cracker like they own the farking place!?!?
 
2014-01-06 04:21:24 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dragonflew: simkatu: If you are a patron that is disturbed by a handicapped person making funny noises then screw you, seriously.

Exactly. People with disabilities have carte blanche, you're not allowed to be disturbed by the screaming or flying food. It doesn't matter if you have paid $5 or $200 for your meal, you must keep your mouth shut if the atmosphere and your experience is completely ruined by someone with mental disabilities.


Smh. Folks like you are the reason these people spent generations jailed in hospitals. Fark your atmosphere. Be a human being.

If you are going to McDonald's for the atmosphere...


I would consider eating my meal in peace without a food fight going on around me to part of the atmosphere.  So, no, I don't expect food fights at McDonald's as a normal part of my visit.
 
2014-01-06 04:23:01 PM  

jaybeezey: They're retards, they won't remember it happened the next day.


Bet me?

People remember what they perceive as important.
If it makes a big enough impact, it will be remembered.
 
2014-01-06 04:23:26 PM  
In today's age of "full inclusion," I don't have a problem with McDonalds kicking them out for throwing food and making other paying customers uncomfortable--just as they would a group of high school kids being assholes or drunks coming in after the bar closes.

If they treated them differently, used derogatory language, or focused on the actors not the actions, then f*ck McDonalds.
 
2014-01-06 04:24:49 PM  
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2014-01-06 04:25:13 PM  
Give the herp-a-derps some straws and tell em they're toys.
 
2014-01-06 04:29:02 PM  
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2014-01-06 04:29:53 PM  

mainstreet62: I don't understand why it's so difficult to be nice to mentally handicapped people. Oh, you were expecting 5 star service in a McDonalds? Let me sing you the song of my people!

Is it that hard to understand that their lives suck over something they had, and STILL have, no control over?

Get over yourselves, and count your blessings.


The retarded are capable of learning to control themselves and behave appropriately.

"But... potato" isn't an excuse.
 
2014-01-06 04:31:31 PM  
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2014-01-06 04:35:10 PM  
I hope this starts a trend, I'd love to see restaurants kick out anyone who is being an asshole, disturbing other patrons.  Bratty kid eating sugar and kicking the booth seat?  You're gone.  Old people who spill food all over themselves?  Booted.  Wannabe MILFs who raise the volume to 11 after one "appletini?"  Bounce them.
 
2014-01-06 04:36:40 PM  

Lady Indica: I bet they have security footage inside the McDonalds...most do. That would pretty much end any speculation over what actually did or did not happen.

/doesn't buy that they were that disruptive


hard to tell.

We used to have a special needs group come to the dept store once a month where i worked. They were part of a life skills class and were being taught some basic life/job skills, folding clothes, counting change and the like. They were always super quite and very nice. They had several chaperones with them, but i never saw any of them get out of line.

That being said, who knows with this group, could be a different story.
 
2014-01-06 04:37:49 PM  
This situation only demonstrates how difficult it is to counter the Potato Card.
 
2014-01-06 04:40:12 PM  
So the 'tards aren't welcome at that McDonald's? Can't their trainers (or 'handlers' or whatever they're called) take 'em to a playground and just tell 'em it's Disneyland or something?
 
2014-01-06 04:44:27 PM  

Timmy the Tumor: I hope this starts a trend, I'd love to see restaurants kick out anyone who is being an asshole, disturbing other patrons. Bratty kid eating sugar and kicking the booth seat?


Not just restaurants, either. Apply that to airplanes, and movie theaters, too. Rowdy kid kicking your seatback on your flight to Charlotte?...tossed out at 30,000 feet! Dumbshiat on his phone in the movie theater?...take him out back and beat the shiat out of him/her!
 
2014-01-06 04:49:53 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Timmy the Tumor: I hope this starts a trend, I'd love to see restaurants kick out anyone who is being an asshole, disturbing other patrons. Bratty kid eating sugar and kicking the booth seat?

Not just restaurants, either. Apply that to airplanes, and movie theaters, too. Rowdy kid kicking your seatback on your flight to Charlotte?...tossed out at 30,000 feet! Dumbshiat on his phone in the movie theater?...take him out back and beat the shiat out of him/her!


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2014-01-06 04:51:50 PM  

simkatu: Sin_City_Superhero: What's the more likely scenario:

1.) McDonald's manager kicks out a group of paying regulars who are quietly enjoying their lunch, because they appear to be retarded

or...

2.) A group of retards got loud and rowdy, disrupting business and disturbing other patrons?

3.) You are a massive douche?

/If you are a patron that is disturbed by a handicapped person making funny noises then screw you, seriously.


Get off your cross, you arrogant prick. A patron has a reasonable expectation to enjoy his/her lunch without being disturbed. If you can't control your behavior or actions in public, you shouldn't be allowed into public. Full stop.
 
2014-01-06 04:53:02 PM  

jaybeezey: Lady Indica: I bet they have security footage inside the McDonalds...most do. That would pretty much end any speculation over what actually did or did not happen.

/doesn't buy that they were that disruptive

hard to tell.

We used to have a special needs group come to the dept store once a month where i worked. They were part of a life skills class and were being taught some basic life/job skills, folding clothes, counting change and the like. They were always super quite and very nice. They had several chaperones with them, but i never saw any of them get out of line.

That being said, who knows with this group, could be a different story.


Totally could be, I'm skeptical because generally when caretakers have a *group*, maintaining control is so essential. Rowdy behavior is dangerous. I completely believe some of the abuses (movie theater babysitting) done by individual lazy ass caretakers. But anyone managing a group...it's not even remotely beneficial for the caretaker to allow for behavior that can be dangerous. Throwing food, allowing that loss of control, that's just dangerous.

Not saying it couldn't have happened, I'm just very skeptical that it did or that the level of disruption rose to requiring them to leave.

As to some of what others have said, OF COURSE we tolerate more from people who are handicapped or who are children or demented. A child shiatting in a ball pit isn't nearly the same as a grown man who has no disabilities shiatting in the ball pit. We all get both are farking disgusting events that aren't really making too many people happy. But only one of those stories is likely to make the local news. :P
 
2014-01-06 04:59:49 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: So the 'tards aren't welcome at that McDonald's? Can't their trainers (or 'handlers' or whatever they're called) take 'em to a playground and just tell 'em it's Disneyland or something?



Calls people "tards"...drives a yellow RX7 with yellow rims.


/Whats YOUR excuse?
//Lol
 
2014-01-06 05:00:04 PM  
memedepot.com
 
2014-01-06 05:06:29 PM  
Would a teacher get in trouble for calling a retarded student who was late for class "Tardy"?

"Tard shocking school."
 
2014-01-06 05:07:14 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Sin_City_Superhero: So the 'tards aren't welcome at that McDonald's? Can't their trainers (or 'handlers' or whatever they're called) take 'em to a playground and just tell 'em it's Disneyland or something?


Calls people "tards"...drives a yellow RX7 with yellow rims.


/Whats YOUR excuse?
//Lol


I loled, well played.
 
2014-01-06 05:08:08 PM  

Matthew Keene: If these bleeding hearts have their way we'll be subjected to a world where out of control autistic kids are punching out little old ladies, retards are running around retail establishments knocking over displays, palsy victims are making a mess at the table in a restaurant, brain damaged waifs are drooling everywhere making everyone else physically ill, and kids with undiagnosed fungi are touching everything in sight. Do you honestly want a world like that?

Meanwhile, and a nearby table...............
[nycprowler.com image 375x262]


"You gonna eat that chair?"
 
2014-01-06 05:08:37 PM  
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You'd have to be retarded to WANT to eat at McDonalds. The manager did them a favor.
 
2014-01-06 05:09:01 PM  
If the McVideo doesn't happen then I'm having it my way, which is to believe the woman, who came across as very professional and sincere.
 
2014-01-06 05:12:35 PM  

Pangea: I just meant that this loud disturbing behavior isn't restricted to handicapped people. And sometimes indignant mothers get off the chain if anyone has a problem with their kids . "Them's MY farkING KIDS!" as if that means anything to someone who is bothered.

Personally, if I'm disturbed by someone in a fast food restaurant I just hurry up and get out of there. It's not worth a fight and I don't know what anybody is going through at any particular moment. It sort of comes with the territory of interacting with the real world, IMHO.


I'm usually the same way when someone around me is being uncivil.  Although there are a handful of times where I've spoken up, especially when the restaurant has been nicer.  Reactions have ranged from stunned silence to awakening the Kraken.


syzygy whizz: While the guys have their limits and deficits, they are just about the furthest thing from 'stupid' that I've run across.  They know what cards are in their decks, so to speak, and they play them brilliantly.


Some relatives of mine have a daughter with mosaic Down's.  They feel guilty for her condition, so they cut her a LOT of slack when it came to rules and boundaries.  As a result, the kid learned how to manipulate situations perfectly.  It was kinda fascinating to watch.

The wife and I have babysat the kid a couple of times, and we cut her zero slack because we know she knows better.  She started out being an uncivil and defiant little kid around us, but quickly learned that doesn't fly.  Full meltdown in a public place?  Then I'm going to throw you over my shoulder like a sack of potatoes and take you to the car.  We'd always explain the expected behavior and the consequences, and eventually her response was "ok!" and she'd mind.  It was funny as hell to see her in mid-tantrum when we came to pick her up, but then for her to immediately turn it off as soon as we walked her to the car.

I think one problem with Down's is that there is such a wide range of intelligence that people with the syndrome can have, but that they've generally been stereotyped as always being on the lower end.  I imagine that many of them have learned to milk that situation for all it is worth, especially if they don't have a lot of control in their lives.  For the smarter ones, I can also imagine that such stereotypes can be frustrating, and that anti-social behavior is just their way of venting.  Either way, part of treating them as more normal people is to set expectations closer to as if they're more normal people.
 
2014-01-06 05:13:23 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Sin_City_Superhero: So the 'tards aren't welcome at that McDonald's? Can't their trainers (or 'handlers' or whatever they're called) take 'em to a playground and just tell 'em it's Disneyland or something?


Calls people "tards"...drives a yellow RX7 with yellow rims.


/Whats YOUR excuse?
//Lol


Never claimed to NOT be a 'tard. What's YOUR excuse?
 
2014-01-06 05:16:07 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: DROxINxTHExWIND: Sin_City_Superhero: So the 'tards aren't welcome at that McDonald's? Can't their trainers (or 'handlers' or whatever they're called) take 'em to a playground and just tell 'em it's Disneyland or something?


Calls people "tards"...drives a yellow RX7 with yellow rims.


/Whats YOUR excuse?
//Lol

Never claimed to NOT be a 'tard. What's YOUR excuse?


BTW...I also have a 42 year old truck I'm restoring, if you want to make fun of that...
 
2014-01-06 05:16:25 PM  

Dinjiin: Somebody must think that manners and inside voices are for classy places, like Applebee's and the Outback, and not for fast food restaurants like McDonald's.  And if you disagree, you're a douche.


I've been to very classy places and country clubs and some of the most expensive places around here anyway, and I've seen people that bring their disabled children and disabled adult children that make loud funny noises at inappropriate times.  I didn't feel that inconvenienced by it all.  Sometimes it makes me feel sad because I know how difficult life must be for the disabled person and their caregivers.   Sometimes it makes me feel good that the family isn't ashamed to let their child experience the world.

And if I saw a douchebag like you in one of the "classy places" I'd be appalled at your behavior and embarrassed for you and your family.

/So you got $50?  That buys you the disabled free zone you prick?
 
2014-01-06 05:17:44 PM  

simkatu: Sin_City_Superhero: What's the more likely scenario:

1.) McDonald's manager kicks out a group of paying regulars who are quietly enjoying their lunch, because they appear to be retarded

or...

2.) A group of retards got loud and rowdy, disrupting business and disturbing other patrons?

3.) You are a massive douche?

/If you are a patron that is disturbed by a handicapped person making funny noises then screw you, seriously.


They might have been getting all huggy
 
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