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(Slate)   A child who grew up unvaccinated because of her parents' hippy lifestyle recalls how much of her youth she spent sick. She doesn't have autism now, though, so there's that   (slate.com) divider line 39
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2014-01-06 01:02:48 PM  
9 votes:
LAUGHTER OL I have the hatred of those who have desire for causing the disease who you might call the anti vaccinationists but let me tell you this. I do not believe this person. She is saying that she had the contraction of all of these diseases. This is the feces which has removal when impacted in the bull. She did not have these things.

The roommate of me is the bigger person who has laziness and constantly does the blaming on the disorder of the thyroid of she or of Lyme disease or fibrous my algae or the syndrome of the restful legs. Perhaps instead she should just do the exercising. The point of this is not to do the disparagement of the roommate of me because as you all know I try to see these things as the neutral person. No the point of this is to say that I believe someone did some disagnostics of the self of she. She is the anti-thesis of the Jennifer M. McCarthiasm. They both are the idiots.
2014-01-06 01:18:08 PM  
5 votes:

Tyrosine: jshine: kbronsito: Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.

Why are you hating on vegans?

This. Vegans taste fine if you cook them right.


Indeed!  Personally, I'm a 2nd-degree vegan -- i.e., I only eat people who only eat vegetables.  Carnivores are right-out.
2014-01-06 01:14:25 PM  
5 votes:

jshine: kbronsito: Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.

Why are you hating on vegans?


This. Vegans taste fine if you cook them right.
2014-01-06 06:14:33 PM  
3 votes:

Ficoce: I need a reference where people died off earlier 150 years ago. Infants died more, but most adults lived as long, or longer than we do now. Now we suffer from working so hard to keeps the kids alive. Not only that, we haven't cured anything - unless you take an inoculation, that do have side effects, you're still in the dark ages. In a way we are worse off now. 150 years ago there wasn't world wide nuclear radiation and chemicals in everything they ate. Even tobacco was all natural and although not harmless, fairly harmless. They started using chemical pesticides like DDT in the late 30's. By the 50's the correlation between smoking and cancer just fell in their laps? What about the correlation between pesticides and cancer?

Our kid aren't healthier now, just have a better chance of living past birth.


I'm a longtime lurker here on Fark, but congrats on writing a post that literally took me aback with its crazy.  Wow.
2014-01-06 01:39:05 PM  
3 votes:

The Voice of Doom: As a German: "LOL WUT?"
I would be very surprised to find milk which hasn't been pasteurized in our grocery stores


LAUGHTER OL how does one who is the speaker of the German language say owned because stuhayes2010 just had this occurrence!
2014-01-06 01:09:01 PM  
3 votes:
Once again, meow said the dog proves herself to be the smartest person on Fark.
2014-01-06 12:16:41 PM  
3 votes:
We ate (organic local) meat maybe once or twice a week,

Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.
2014-01-06 07:26:19 PM  
2 votes:

Coach McGirk: InterruptingQuirk: PsiChick: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: breastfed for over a year

[media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com image 634x834]

...Uh, over a year is  not that long. WHO recommends continuing breastfeeding until about age two, although children tend to self-wean when they're ready, anywhere from six months to two years old.

All 5 of my kids self-weaned ~15 months.

Mine was weaned at nine months. When she started on solid food, I switched to formula. But I was always of the mind that if they are old enough to ask for it? Then its time to wean them off the boob.


It's really time when they can ask for it in writing.  With proper grammar and punctuation.
2014-01-06 02:17:31 PM  
2 votes:

J.Shelby: mbillips:  people before modern medicine used to refer to the world as "this veil of tears."

Vale.   Vale of tears.


You are technically correct - the best kind of correct.
2014-01-06 01:59:52 PM  
2 votes:
i.imgur.com
2014-01-06 01:51:34 PM  
2 votes:

kvinesknows: LOL.  just look at all the sluts coming out of the closet to defend this woman.


I've trolled this site for years, and you have much to learn young Padawan. Now go and meditate on this, and come back when you can seize an outraged reaction from midair with your chopsticks.
2014-01-06 01:27:37 PM  
2 votes:
maddermaxx:
About 75%+ Americans will be infected by HPV at some point in their lives*. Perhaps you're just frigid?

*For most people it's A-symptomatic however.


The other 25% use Mac or Linux, so they're safe.
2014-01-06 01:17:27 PM  
2 votes:
Oh man... antivax, raw milk, veganism and now RLS...

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2014-01-06 01:10:58 PM  
2 votes:
DNRTFA

Bullshiat.  Raw milk is a living food.  Pasteurized milk is just cow piss.

The trick to avoiding Listeria etc. in raw milk, is to

1. Understand where you're sourcing the raw milk from and their practices.  No shiat, Sherlock.
2. Drop a washed pre-1965 quarter into the milk bottle.  90% Silver is anti-microbial.

As to the vaccinations, remember the root of vacc- is "cow", and the vaccines are done to provide "herd effect" immunity.  As such, the mistake the hippies obviously made was sending the kid to public school.  They should have home-schooled the kid, too.

Half-assed hippies, if you ask me...
2014-01-07 08:32:31 AM  
1 votes:
LavenderWolf:  FYI all the fluid in milk comes from blood plasma, so, if you drink any milk at all you're drinking blood.

Said the most boring vampire ever.
2014-01-06 06:57:26 PM  
1 votes:

No Such Agency: kvinesknows: LOL.  just look at all the sluts coming out of the closet to defend this woman.

I've trolled this site for years, and you have much to learn young Padawan. Now go and meditate on this, and come back when you can seize an outraged reaction from midair with your chopsticks.


You bastard. I paid good money for this wine & it just shot out my nose all over my smartphone. I shall be forwarding a bill posthaste! :P
2014-01-06 06:00:46 PM  
1 votes:

shirtsbyeric: Doctor told me I had the Human Papilloma virus and I said but Doctor, I've never been to Spain.


But you've been horned by a few bulls in your day
2014-01-06 05:42:22 PM  
1 votes:
Doctor told me I had the Human Papilloma virus and I said but Doctor, I've never been to Spain.
2014-01-06 03:51:54 PM  
1 votes:
Drink up raw milkers.

I'm certain the cow it came from didn't have tuberculosis.

That farmer was obviously a doctor, who tested the cow for disease in his laboratory before giving it to you.


Smokers, you should increase your intake by 3 packs a day.
 

E-Cigs, try not to think that the nicotine came from bulk insecticide being re purposed because the synthetic became cheaper. It's regulated and tested not to kill you, and certainly not motivated by profit and people who don't care about your health. Smoke as much as you can. You should really switch to real cigarettes.

Don't get vaccinated.

Organic usually doesn't mean it was recently covered in feces, sometimes human. But that's OK because it is traditional oriental farming.
2014-01-06 03:31:04 PM  
1 votes:
I wasn't even allowed pop; even my fresh juice was watered down to protect my teeth, and I would've killed for white, shop-bought bread in my lunchbox once in a while and biscuits instead of fruit, like all the other kids.
We ate (organic local) meat maybe once or twice a week, and my mother and father cooked everything from scratch-I have yet to taste a Findus crispy pancake, and oven chips ("fries," to Americans) were reserved for those nights when Mum and Dad had friends over and we got a "treat."

As healthy as my lifestyle seemed, I contracted measles, mumps, rubella, a type of viral meningitis, scarlatina, whooping cough, yearly tonsillitis, and chickenpox. In my 20s I got precancerous HPV


So at least she got all the cock she wanted so there's that.
2014-01-06 03:08:41 PM  
1 votes:
I drew the pic for another thread... but I couldn't help but use it here.  :)

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2014-01-06 02:34:02 PM  
1 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: Author


It's like someone shaved Bruce Vilanch.
2014-01-06 02:23:45 PM  
1 votes:
Excellent article! It's a great example of looking at the results from 'the other side', which is why we developed vaccinations and other medical treatments ages ago.

Your great-grandparents probably had immune systems that were as strong as a battleship -- but all that healthy living tended to shorten their lives and as transportation devices became better and cheaper, they came in contact with more people from far away, who brought with them diseases they hadn't been exposed to.

Herbal stuff is great. It served as the primary medicines for centuries. However, it took scientists and sophisticated equipment to extract and condense the desired substances into pill form so you didn't need to drink a gallon of weak tea for a headache or eat a pound of weeds every 12 hours for bowel problems.

Pasteurization emerged for two primary reasons: food preservation and to stop the spread of disease. I guess the deaths of hundreds of thousands over the years from infected raw milk from healthy cows just isn't enough proof.

Rickets, a disease caused by the lack of Vitamin D which softens the long bones during childhood, causing a kids legs to bow like those of a career cowboys from 100 years ago, was eliminated by the government requiring D to be added to milk. Then they slapped price controls on the stuff for schools to make sure kids could get all of the healthy, calcium rich, Ricketts fighting moo juice dirt cheap.

Within a decade, Ricketts became a disease mainly talked about and probably never seen by the average parent.

No matter how rough and tough and 'natural' a lifestyle you live, there are diseases which you can get easily. Many lurk in that organic, rich soil you walk over, some of which even get into those insecticide free, organically grown, nutritious and delicious veggies you wolf down smugly.

Even most of those 'Survivorman' type shows on TV pause to warn you that some organic things need to be prepared carefully before eating. (Pull off the heads of grasshoppers to extract the guts, then roast before eating because parasites often lurk in them. Cook the krap out of that water plant that Hawaiian poi is made from because it contains an acid that turns the tuber into basically sand-like crystals. Cooking destroys the acid and softens the nutritious flesh. Don't eat the 'greens' of certain healthy veggies -- like carrots -- because they contain a weak poison. The same with the green leafs of potatoes. The original version of Eggplant was poison. Careful breeding made it a safe, tasty veggie.)

In my day, mom's had 'exposure parties', meaning if your kid caught the Measles, other Moms brought their uninfected kids over for a play date, to deliberate infect them to get the disease over with while they were young. The same with what used to be known as 'Yellow Jaundice' a mild form of Hepatitis.

Now, you get a vaccination and don't get the 'joy' of having to suffer though Measles for real.

There's nothing wrong with a healthy lifestyle -- just don't be stupid. Remember, those who were forced to actually live it 150 years ago, tended to die off more quickly. They didn't have the medications we do today.

BTW. Tetanus (Lockjaw) was a danger then. The disease locked your jaws shut and caused other painful muscle spasms. Treatment consisted of the Dr knocking out your front teeth so you could drink liquids or else you'd starve to death before the disease ran its course.

Now, you get a quick, simple vaccination, renewed every decade or so. Much more pleasant than having someone use a hammer, chisel and pliers to knock out your teeth and then having to sip broths between muscle spasms for the next couple of weeks.
2014-01-06 02:19:03 PM  
1 votes:

dynomutt: Drop a washed pre-1965 quarter into the milk bottle. 90% Silver is anti-microbial.



Assuming for the sake of argument that the anti-microbial properties of silver are everything you claim them to be, please explain how doing this would sanitize the milk. It seems to me that the only thing you'd be guaranteed to have is a pathogen-free quarter after you've removed it from the milk. Wouldn't you have to ensure that every bacterium floating in the bottle comes into contact with the surface of the coin? How would you accomplish that?

Failing that, please admit you're trolling.
2014-01-06 01:48:06 PM  
1 votes:

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine.  Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.

And Jenny McCarthy killed more kittens with her 1996 playboy spread than she killed children with her vaccinations nonsense.  Won't anybody please think of the kittens?


You're either an excellent troll, or a criminally stupid human being.  Either one makes you little more than yak excrement.
2014-01-06 01:30:09 PM  
1 votes:

sigdiamond2000: meow said the dog: the syndrome of the restful legs


I say them open for  System of a Down back in ought 2.
I thought they would get the place bouncing.
but they just kinda sat there.
2014-01-06 01:25:27 PM  
1 votes:
This thread reads like a letter from a Nigerian Prince.
2014-01-06 01:24:36 PM  
1 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: meow said the dog: LAUGHTER OL I have the hatred of those who have desire for causing the disease who you might call the anti vaccinationists but let me tell you this. I do not believe this person. She is saying that she had the contraction of all of these diseases. This is the feces which has removal when impacted in the bull. She did not have these things.

The roommate of me is the bigger person who has laziness and constantly does the blaming on the disorder of the thyroid of she or of Lyme disease or fibrous my algae or the syndrome of the restful legs. Perhaps instead she should just do the exercising. The point of this is not to do the disparagement of the roommate of me because as you all know I try to see these things as the neutral person. No the point of this is to say that I believe someone did some disagnostics of the self of she. She is the anti-thesis of the Jennifer M. McCarthiasm. They both are the idiots.

"The roommate of me"?  Is English your second language, or are you a bot?


I believe he is suffering a stroke.....can someone call the paramedics
2014-01-06 01:24:34 PM  
1 votes:

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without __________ and did just fine.


clean water
seat belts
modern hygiene
working sewer systems
basic dental care
basic neo-natal care
basic nutrition

You're right. In fact, you're right no matter which of those things we substitute into your original comment.

Of course, that's not really the point since we're worried about those kid's 5-6 brothers and sisters that died before the age of 5 of now-preventable illness.

Some of us have this wild notion that maybe the goal of our modern society ought to be set just a little higher than making sure at least one offspring per family reaches child-bearing age. We're crazy assholes like that, you know.
2014-01-06 01:21:42 PM  
1 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: meow said the dog: LAUGHTER OL I have the hatred of those who have desire for causing the disease who you might call the anti vaccinationists but let me tell you this. I do not believe this person. She is saying that she had the contraction of all of these diseases. This is the feces which has removal when impacted in the bull. She did not have these things.

The roommate of me is the bigger person who has laziness and constantly does the blaming on the disorder of the thyroid of she or of Lyme disease or fibrous my algae or the syndrome of the restful legs. Perhaps instead she should just do the exercising. The point of this is not to do the disparagement of the roommate of me because as you all know I try to see these things as the neutral person. No the point of this is to say that I believe someone did some disagnostics of the self of she. She is the anti-thesis of the Jennifer M. McCarthiasm. They both are the idiots.

"The roommate of me"?  Is English your second language, or are you a bot?


You object to the language of a meow said the dog post, and that's the part that stuck out? That's actually grammatical, if awkward.
2014-01-06 01:17:58 PM  
1 votes:

kbronsito: We ate (organic local) meat maybe once or twice a week,

Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.


No, they were something even worse: locavores.
2014-01-06 01:17:13 PM  
1 votes:

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine.  Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.



Actually..... no they didn't do fine.   Not at all.    A hundred or two hundred years ago people had very large families of 8-12 kids and were lucky if 4 made it to 20 years old.

When various diseases cruised through a region.... people died in droves.     Especially the children.

Your post might be one of the dumbest of 2014.    And on Fark, that is saying something....
2014-01-06 01:11:09 PM  
1 votes:

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine. Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.


If by "fine" you mean 250 million people dying of measles in 150 years, sure. We did FINE.
2014-01-06 01:10:39 PM  
1 votes:

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine.  Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.

And Jenny McCarthy killed more kittens with her 1996 playboy spread than she killed children with her vaccinations nonsense.  Won't anybody please think of the kittens?


Exactly! Infant mortality rate has been unchanged for thousands of years. It would be nice though to go back o the days when you just shipped your weird kid to the asylum and never spoke of it again.
2014-01-06 01:10:12 PM  
1 votes:
I am the '70s child of a health nut. My mother used homeopathy, aromatherapy, osteopathy; we took daily supplements of vitamin C, echinacea, cod liver oil.

Fixed.
2014-01-06 01:09:43 PM  
1 votes:
She fails to make a compelling or even interesting case. I wish they had a stupid, whiny coont vaccine.
2014-01-06 01:06:03 PM  
1 votes:

meow said the dog: the syndrome of the restful legs

2014-01-06 01:04:29 PM  
1 votes:

mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.


You should inform France and Germany where most milk is raw.  Two whole modern countries need your knowledge.
2014-01-06 01:03:14 PM  
1 votes:
She does have autism, and all this is taking place in her mind.
 
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