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(Slate)   A child who grew up unvaccinated because of her parents' hippy lifestyle recalls how much of her youth she spent sick. She doesn't have autism now, though, so there's that   (slate.com) divider line 227
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2014-01-06 11:54:37 AM  
So you're saying avoiding MSG and sugar has fark-all to do with viruses and shiat? No way.
 
2014-01-06 11:57:05 AM  
I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.
 
2014-01-06 12:16:41 PM  
We ate (organic local) meat maybe once or twice a week,

Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.
 
2014-01-06 01:02:48 PM  
LAUGHTER OL I have the hatred of those who have desire for causing the disease who you might call the anti vaccinationists but let me tell you this. I do not believe this person. She is saying that she had the contraction of all of these diseases. This is the feces which has removal when impacted in the bull. She did not have these things.

The roommate of me is the bigger person who has laziness and constantly does the blaming on the disorder of the thyroid of she or of Lyme disease or fibrous my algae or the syndrome of the restful legs. Perhaps instead she should just do the exercising. The point of this is not to do the disparagement of the roommate of me because as you all know I try to see these things as the neutral person. No the point of this is to say that I believe someone did some disagnostics of the self of she. She is the anti-thesis of the Jennifer M. McCarthiasm. They both are the idiots.
 
2014-01-06 01:03:14 PM  
She does have autism, and all this is taking place in her mind.
 
2014-01-06 01:04:01 PM  
There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine.  Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.

And Jenny McCarthy killed more kittens with her 1996 playboy spread than she killed children with her vaccinations nonsense.  Won't anybody please think of the kittens?
 
2014-01-06 01:04:29 PM  

mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.


You should inform France and Germany where most milk is raw.  Two whole modern countries need your knowledge.
 
2014-01-06 01:04:51 PM  

mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.



Isn't she getting a little repetitive?
 
2014-01-06 01:05:00 PM  

mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.


That one is actively unhealthy.  Some of the others (no sugar until 1, extensive breastfeeding, organic meat) are healthy.  Some don't matter (avoiding aspartame and MSG, growing your own vegetables).
 
2014-01-06 01:06:01 PM  

mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.


THIS.  My wife is friends with a couple who give their little boy raw milk and also, get this, raw liver.  farking new-age tossers, the pair of them.
 
2014-01-06 01:06:03 PM  

meow said the dog: the syndrome of the restful legs

 
2014-01-06 01:06:04 PM  
MstD, I keep reading you comments, but they make no sense to me.
 
2014-01-06 01:09:01 PM  
Once again, meow said the dog proves herself to be the smartest person on Fark.
 
2014-01-06 01:09:14 PM  

stuhayes2010: mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.

You should inform France and Germany where most milk is raw.  Two whole modern countries need your knowledge.


I don't need to inform anyone. I can just look at historical fact and the deaths and illnesses directly attributed to raw milk.

I'd add raw milk distribution regulations are so strict in Germany, only 80 farms are allowed to distribute.

Go on with your bad self though! Drink all the raw milk you want.
 
2014-01-06 01:09:43 PM  
She fails to make a compelling or even interesting case. I wish they had a stupid, whiny coont vaccine.
 
2014-01-06 01:10:12 PM  
I am the '70s child of a health nut. My mother used homeopathy, aromatherapy, osteopathy; we took daily supplements of vitamin C, echinacea, cod liver oil.

Fixed.
 
2014-01-06 01:10:22 PM  

The Envoy: mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.

THIS.  My wife is friends with a couple who give their little boy raw milk and also, get this, raw liver.  farking new-age tossers, the pair of them.

raw liver.

?? with fava beans?? make sure your doors are locked
 
2014-01-06 01:10:39 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine.  Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.

And Jenny McCarthy killed more kittens with her 1996 playboy spread than she killed children with her vaccinations nonsense.  Won't anybody please think of the kittens?


Exactly! Infant mortality rate has been unchanged for thousands of years. It would be nice though to go back o the days when you just shipped your weird kid to the asylum and never spoke of it again.
 
2014-01-06 01:10:58 PM  
DNRTFA

Bullshiat.  Raw milk is a living food.  Pasteurized milk is just cow piss.

The trick to avoiding Listeria etc. in raw milk, is to

1. Understand where you're sourcing the raw milk from and their practices.  No shiat, Sherlock.
2. Drop a washed pre-1965 quarter into the milk bottle.  90% Silver is anti-microbial.

As to the vaccinations, remember the root of vacc- is "cow", and the vaccines are done to provide "herd effect" immunity.  As such, the mistake the hippies obviously made was sending the kid to public school.  They should have home-schooled the kid, too.

Half-assed hippies, if you ask me...
 
2014-01-06 01:11:09 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine. Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.


If by "fine" you mean 250 million people dying of measles in 150 years, sure. We did FINE.
 
2014-01-06 01:11:13 PM  

stuhayes2010: mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.

You should inform France and Germany where most milk is raw.  Two whole modern countries need your knowledge.


WRONG

Many cheeses are made from raw milk in France.  But the microbes that produce the cheese crowd make the environment unconducive to listeria growth.  The vast majority of milk in France is sold in shelf-stable UHT pasteurized tetra-packs.

There are only a handful of farmers in Germany who are licensed to sell raw milk.
 
2014-01-06 01:12:06 PM  

kbronsito: Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.


Why are you hating on vegans?
 
2014-01-06 01:12:54 PM  

mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.


There's nothing unhealthy about it, as long as you get it straight from a hand-milked cow that sees the vet regularly, refrigerate it immediately, and drink it within a week (or buy it from someone who does all that). Pasteurization is required because of the way commercially produced milk is gathered, transported and stored. Bad germs lurk in milking machines, not in a tin bucket that you wash in hot water and detergent before every use.

/Grew up on raw milk because we had a milk cow.
//Pasteurization is generally a good idea, but it destroys some vitamins, minerals and beneficial bacteria in the milk.
///Would never buy raw milk from strangers.
 
2014-01-06 01:14:25 PM  

jshine: kbronsito: Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.

Why are you hating on vegans?


This. Vegans taste fine if you cook them right.
 
2014-01-06 01:14:58 PM  

stuhayes2010: mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.

You should inform France and Germany where most milk is raw.  Two whole modern countries need your knowledge.


I'm going to call you a liar on that, as I seem to recall nearly all the milk I found in France was pasteurized or UHT, and while I can't speak for Germany, the first lie leads me to dis-believe you on the latter claim.
 
2014-01-06 01:16:32 PM  

mediablitz: Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine. Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.

If by "fine" you mean 250 million people dying of measles in 150 years, sure. We did FINE.


Yes, but OP was specifically talking about children "who grew up".  Those millions who died don't count, since they didn't grow up.  ...but hey, other than disease causing untold death and suffering, there were no problems -- because nature is always best.
 
2014-01-06 01:16:59 PM  

The Envoy: mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.

THIS.  My wife is friends with a couple who give their little boy raw milk and also, get this, raw liver.  farking new-age tossers, the pair of them.


I eat nearly raw liver myself. It tastes better that way.

You have to have a source you trust, though.
 
2014-01-06 01:17:01 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine.  Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.

And Jenny McCarthy killed more kittens with her 1996 playboy spread than she killed children with her vaccinations nonsense.  Won't anybody please think of the kittens?


No, you freakin' moron, they did not do just fine. They died like flies. Infant mortality in the 19th century was about ten times what it is now, and epidemics used to lay waste whole generations of small children. Just because the population increased doesn't mean everything was hunky dory, it just means humans breed like rabbits. Go visit a Victorian cemetery sometime, and you'll see why people before modern medicine used to refer to the world as "this veil of tears."
 
2014-01-06 01:17:03 PM  

Tyrosine: jshine: kbronsito: Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.

Why are you hating on vegans?

This. Vegans taste fine if you cook them right.


Slow braise.
 
2014-01-06 01:17:13 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine.  Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.



Actually..... no they didn't do fine.   Not at all.    A hundred or two hundred years ago people had very large families of 8-12 kids and were lucky if 4 made it to 20 years old.

When various diseases cruised through a region.... people died in droves.     Especially the children.

Your post might be one of the dumbest of 2014.    And on Fark, that is saying something....
 
2014-01-06 01:17:27 PM  
Oh man... antivax, raw milk, veganism and now RLS...

i48.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-06 01:17:44 PM  

stuhayes2010: You should inform France and Germany where most milk is raw.


uh...no
 
2014-01-06 01:17:58 PM  

kbronsito: We ate (organic local) meat maybe once or twice a week,

Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.


No, they were something even worse: locavores.
 
2014-01-06 01:18:02 PM  

stuhayes2010: mediablitz: I was brought up on an incredibly healthy diet: no sugar till I was 1, breastfed for over a year, organic homegrown vegetables, raw milk, no MSG, no additives, no aspartame

There is nothing healthy about giving children raw milk.

You should inform France and Germany where most milk is raw.  Two whole modern countries need your knowledge.


I take it you've never been there.

Most liquid mild in France sold in grocery stores is UHT pasteurized, sitting at room temperature in tetra paks (or the European equivalent).

But to the topic of TFA... fark anti-vaxxers.
 
2014-01-06 01:18:08 PM  

Tyrosine: jshine: kbronsito: Before all the haters show up... I just wanted to point out that at least these people weren't vegans.

Why are you hating on vegans?

This. Vegans taste fine if you cook them right.


Indeed!  Personally, I'm a 2nd-degree vegan -- i.e., I only eat people who only eat vegetables.  Carnivores are right-out.
 
2014-01-06 01:18:21 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine. Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.


With women being baby factories, having to pump out a ton of them because many would die.
 
2014-01-06 01:18:24 PM  

meow said the dog: LAUGHTER OL I have the hatred of those who have desire for causing the disease who you might call the anti vaccinationists but let me tell you this. I do not believe this person. She is saying that she had the contraction of all of these diseases. This is the feces which has removal when impacted in the bull. She did not have these things.

The roommate of me is the bigger person who has laziness and constantly does the blaming on the disorder of the thyroid of she or of Lyme disease or fibrous my algae or the syndrome of the restful legs. Perhaps instead she should just do the exercising. The point of this is not to do the disparagement of the roommate of me because as you all know I try to see these things as the neutral person. No the point of this is to say that I believe someone did some disagnostics of the self of she. She is the anti-thesis of the Jennifer M. McCarthiasm. They both are the idiots.


"The roommate of me"?  Is English your second language, or are you a bot?
 
2014-01-06 01:18:38 PM  
This just in: When you live in a bubble and aren't exposed to anything, you don't build up immunity to those things you were hiding from.
 
2014-01-06 01:19:22 PM  
dynomutt:

As to the vaccinations, remember the root of vacc- is "cow", and the vaccines are done to provide "herd effect" immunity.  As such, the mistake the hippies obviously made was sending the kid to public school.  They should have home-schooled the kid, too.

Half-assed hippies, if you ask me...


The reason it's called Vaccine is because the first one created was using the Cow pox virus to innoculate against small pox. Just FYI.
 
2014-01-06 01:20:29 PM  

dynomutt: DNRTFA

Bullshiat.  Raw milk is a living food.  Pasteurized milk is just cow piss.

The trick to avoiding Listeria etc. in raw milk, is to

1. Understand where you're sourcing the raw milk from and their practices.  No shiat, Sherlock.
2. Drop a washed pre-1965 quarter into the milk bottle.  90% Silver is anti-microbial.

As to the vaccinations, remember the root of vacc- is "cow", and the vaccines are done to provide "herd effect" immunity.  As such, the mistake the hippies obviously made was sending the kid to public school.  They should have home-schooled the kid, too.

Half-assed hippies, if you ask me...


i483.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-06 01:20:42 PM  
and even with all that nurturing by her loving parents... she is still a  slut.

in her 20s.. two kids under 7 AND catches HPV?

close your farkin legs.
 
2014-01-06 01:21:30 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-06 01:21:32 PM  
As healthy as my lifestyle seemed, I contracted measles, mumps, rubella, a type of viral meningitis, scarlatina, whooping cough, yearly tonsillitis, and chickenpox.


Ouch.
 
2014-01-06 01:21:42 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: meow said the dog: LAUGHTER OL I have the hatred of those who have desire for causing the disease who you might call the anti vaccinationists but let me tell you this. I do not believe this person. She is saying that she had the contraction of all of these diseases. This is the feces which has removal when impacted in the bull. She did not have these things.

The roommate of me is the bigger person who has laziness and constantly does the blaming on the disorder of the thyroid of she or of Lyme disease or fibrous my algae or the syndrome of the restful legs. Perhaps instead she should just do the exercising. The point of this is not to do the disparagement of the roommate of me because as you all know I try to see these things as the neutral person. No the point of this is to say that I believe someone did some disagnostics of the self of she. She is the anti-thesis of the Jennifer M. McCarthiasm. They both are the idiots.

"The roommate of me"?  Is English your second language, or are you a bot?


You object to the language of a meow said the dog post, and that's the part that stuck out? That's actually grammatical, if awkward.
 
2014-01-06 01:23:19 PM  

kvinesknows: and even with all that nurturing by her loving parents... she is still a  slut.

in her 20s.. two kids under 7 AND catches HPV?

close your farkin legs.


Jealous? BTW, nearly everyone who has ever had sex is infected with HPV. Most of us are asymptomatic, but you generally catch it first time out of the box (so to speak).
 
2014-01-06 01:24:10 PM  
I do say! Meow must have a copy and paste madlibs for every thread.
 
2014-01-06 01:24:34 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without __________ and did just fine.


clean water
seat belts
modern hygiene
working sewer systems
basic dental care
basic neo-natal care
basic nutrition

You're right. In fact, you're right no matter which of those things we substitute into your original comment.

Of course, that's not really the point since we're worried about those kid's 5-6 brothers and sisters that died before the age of 5 of now-preventable illness.

Some of us have this wild notion that maybe the goal of our modern society ought to be set just a little higher than making sure at least one offspring per family reaches child-bearing age. We're crazy assholes like that, you know.
 
2014-01-06 01:24:36 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: meow said the dog: LAUGHTER OL I have the hatred of those who have desire for causing the disease who you might call the anti vaccinationists but let me tell you this. I do not believe this person. She is saying that she had the contraction of all of these diseases. This is the feces which has removal when impacted in the bull. She did not have these things.

The roommate of me is the bigger person who has laziness and constantly does the blaming on the disorder of the thyroid of she or of Lyme disease or fibrous my algae or the syndrome of the restful legs. Perhaps instead she should just do the exercising. The point of this is not to do the disparagement of the roommate of me because as you all know I try to see these things as the neutral person. No the point of this is to say that I believe someone did some disagnostics of the self of she. She is the anti-thesis of the Jennifer M. McCarthiasm. They both are the idiots.

"The roommate of me"?  Is English your second language, or are you a bot?


I believe he is suffering a stroke.....can someone call the paramedics
 
2014-01-06 01:25:02 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: There are children who grew up for thousands of years without vaccinations and did just fine.  Overall, it's pretty clear that vaccinations are better than no vaccinations, but even when we did blatantly stupid things like bloodletting, the human race managed to survive just fine.

And Jenny McCarthy killed more kittens with her 1996 playboy spread than she killed children with her vaccinations nonsense.  Won't anybody please think of the kittens?


Well, not the entire human race. Most people died before the age of 4. For thousands of years since we developed agriculture and animal herding and started living communally, humanity's best way to survive against disease was to zerg it with the highest sustainable birth rate we could manage. The body count due to what are now considered easily preventable diseases throughout history is incredible. The reason humanity has persisted to the point that we are today is because each generation boned like crazy and somehow managed to raise a handful of offspring to sexual maturity each.
 
2014-01-06 01:25:27 PM  
This thread reads like a letter from a Nigerian Prince.
 
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