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(ABC)   Profiles in cowardice: The Memoir of the CIA lawyer who could have stopped water-boarding and torture of terror suspects with the stroke of a pen, but chose not barbecue he might be blamed if something bad happened afterwards   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 236
    More: Dumbass, CIA, Secretary of State Colin Powell, cowardice, Donald Rumsfeld, John Rizzo  
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2014-01-06 05:08:17 PM
xaxor.com
 
2014-01-06 05:16:10 PM

whatsupchuck: Note to self: Stop submitting coherent headlines because gibberish altitude galoshes sandwich.


That got a legitimate LOL out of me. In other words, I barbequed it.
 
2014-01-06 05:24:30 PM

pnome: ArcadianRefugee: McGrits: Is this real barbecue where one cooks with indirect heat and smoke? Or is this the backyard party where people grill burgers and hotdogs?

Who cares? The real question is, which is the best style of barbecue? Texas? Carolina? Memphis? Kansas City?

Carolina.


Santa Maria style tri-tip.

/hides and watches with popcorn
//though it really is great when done properly
 
2014-01-06 05:36:52 PM

Wizzywig: I have seen GodJesus, and he is the non-English speaking, 50-year old Mexican who cooked that brisket at the Pecan Lodge.


FTFY.
 
2014-01-06 05:39:20 PM
I started reading the thread then forgot what the headline was about.
 
2014-01-06 05:43:21 PM
It's unfortunate that subby messed up the headline and created this unintentional semi meme. The actual article is actually pretty darn good and gives us  a small glimpse on EIT and the politics behind it.
 
2014-01-06 05:44:19 PM

Maud Dib: Franklin BBQ, Austin, Texas, baby.


Both Franklin BBQ and Google Fiber started in Austin after I left.

FML.
 
2014-01-06 05:44:49 PM

you are a puppet: Come to the CIA BBBQ, the extra B is for BYOBB


So, CIA barbeque barbeque bring your own barbeque q?

/barbeque barbeque barbeque
 
2014-01-06 05:51:05 PM

DirkTheDaring: pnome: ArcadianRefugee: McGrits: Is this real barbecue where one cooks with indirect heat and smoke? Or is this the backyard party where people grill burgers and hotdogs?

Who cares? The real question is, which is the best style of barbecue? Texas? Carolina? Memphis? Kansas City?

Carolina.

Brazil


Korean.

steamykitchen.com
s3-media2.ak.yelpcdn.com
 
2014-01-06 05:55:13 PM

veedeevadeevoodee: Odoriferous Queef: Maud Dib: Odoriferous Queef: Maud Dib:
It's perfectly clear.
Franklin BBQ, Austin, Texas, baby.
Best in the US.

Blacks in Lockheart Texas.

I've been to Blacks many times. It's damn good, but it pales in comparison to Franklin.

I will have to put Franklin on my list then.

Das Fuhrer says go early


Dang, how did I miss that one?
 
2014-01-06 06:02:59 PM

Mambo Bananapatch: DirkTheDaring: pnome: ArcadianRefugee: McGrits: Is this real barbecue where one cooks with indirect heat and smoke? Or is this the backyard party where people grill burgers and hotdogs?

Who cares? The real question is, which is the best style of barbecue? Texas? Carolina? Memphis? Kansas City?

Carolina.

Brazil

Korean.

[steamykitchen.com image 500x333]
[s3-media2.ak.yelpcdn.com image 533x400]



Hey now -- don't get Caturday started this early.
 
2014-01-06 06:28:58 PM
Thank you mods for leaving this intact, and thank you Magorn for this late Christmas present. May your accidental memes be with us forever.

/The photos in this thread are seriously weakening my will against eating out tonight.
//HOTY
 
2014-01-06 06:32:55 PM

Pawprint: CJHardin: Prince George: How bad does one have to spell because to get it to spell-check and barbeque.

How bad does one have to spell as to get it to spell-check as and?.

How bad does one have to spell "auto-correct" to get it to auto-correct as "spell-check"?


Yeah, I totally didn't barbecue that.
 
2014-01-06 06:49:10 PM
And another great food-based meme is born. Fark has really barbequed the skrimps up to potato.
 
2014-01-06 07:05:02 PM

Gyrfalcon: "Chose not barbecue" has such a tragic, Shakespearean ring to it.


When rendition, of the standard kind
Proved most ineffective, in the main
Rizzo could, with but a single stroke
Stop waterboarding ere it began
To put a halt on Gitmo's reign
Of torture and late night talk show fuel
Yet poor Rizzo chose not barbecue
And punted like it were fourth and long
 
2014-01-06 07:08:37 PM

Jclark666: Gyrfalcon: "Chose not barbecue" has such a tragic, Shakespearean ring to it.

When rendition, of the standard kind
Proved most ineffective, in the main
Rizzo could, with but a single stroke
Stop waterboarding ere it began
To put a halt on Gitmo's reign
Of torture and late night talk show fuel
Yet poor Rizzo chose not barbecue
And punted like it were fourth and long


Doesn't scan.
 
2014-01-06 07:30:29 PM

Maud Dib: ArcadianRefugee: McGrits: Is this real barbecue where one cooks with indirect heat and smoke? Or is this the backyard party where people grill burgers and hotdogs?

Who cares? The real question is, which is the best style of barbecue? Texas? Carolina? Memphis? Kansas City?

It's perfectly clear.
Franklin BBQ, Austin, Texas, baby.
Best in the US.

[andrewzimmern.com image 850x531]


That beef isn't nearly purple enough to taste good.
 
2014-01-06 07:36:50 PM
farm8.staticflickr.com

That's what the extra B stands for.
 
2014-01-06 08:10:12 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Jclark666: Gyrfalcon: "Chose not barbecue" has such a tragic, Shakespearean ring to it.

When rendition, of the standard kind
Proved most ineffective, in the main
Rizzo could, with but a single stroke
Stop waterboarding ere it began
To put a halt on Gitmo's reign
Of torture and late night talk show fuel
Yet poor Rizzo chose not barbecue
And punted like it were fourth and long

Doesn't scan.


It scans perfectly when read in the monotone of a CIA lawyer.
 
2014-01-06 08:23:29 PM
"Someone cued me?"

www.notablebiographies.com
 
2014-01-06 09:02:32 PM
Guess nobody told him torture doesn't work. The end result usually whatever the prisoner thinks his captors want to hear.

Meanwhile, the best way to get information is for the interrogator to become friends with the prisoner... then one day the prisoner starts talking about stuff all on his own and it's usually true.
 
2014-01-06 09:04:30 PM
I love this barbecue so much.
 
2014-01-06 09:11:32 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I torture people with the smell of a brisket...

Just a little longer...
..just a littttttle longer...

Soaked in brine for a while, then seared on each side until blackened, but not too blackened, then wrapped in foil 8-12 hours at about 235/250.

/but seriously, why don't they give the detainees acid or cocaine or both plus booze! - they'd never shut up.
 
2014-01-06 09:23:03 PM

Jclark666: demaL-demaL-yeH: Jclark666: Gyrfalcon: "Chose not barbecue" has such a tragic, Shakespearean ring to it.

When rendition, of the standard kind
Proved most ineffective, in the main
Rizzo could, with but a single stroke
Stop waterboarding ere it began
To put a halt on Gitmo's reign
Of torture and late night talk show fuel
Yet poor Rizzo chose not barbecue
And punted like it were fourth and long

Doesn't scan.

It scans perfectly when read in the monotone of a CIA lawyer.


Rendition of the standard kind and form
Prov'd ineffective terrorists to bag
This Rizzo's course - his solemn oath foresworn
And failing duty signed this bane "Approv'd"
Thus torture 'gainst both law and heritage
This craven coward chose as CYA
The Hague, we hope, will host his barbecue

/Can't bring up a problem without offering a solution.
 
2014-01-06 09:25:14 PM

SonOfSpam: Odoriferous Queef: Maud Dib: ArcadianRefugee: McGrits: Is this real barbecue where one cooks with indirect heat and smoke? Or is this the backyard party where people grill burgers and hotdogs?

Who cares? The real question is, which is the best style of barbecue? Texas? Carolina? Memphis? Kansas City?

It's perfectly clear.
Franklin BBQ, Austin, Texas, baby.
Best in the US.

Blacks in Lockheart Texas.

That's racist.


Something something barbecue blacks Texas....

www.rawstory.com
 
2014-01-06 09:25:43 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Jclark666: demaL-demaL-yeH: Jclark666: Gyrfalcon: "Chose not barbecue" has such a tragic, Shakespearean ring to it.

When rendition, of the standard kind
Proved most ineffective, in the main
Rizzo could, with but a single stroke
Stop waterboarding ere it began
To put a halt on Gitmo's reign
Of torture and late night talk show fuel
Yet poor Rizzo chose not barbecue
And punted like it were fourth and long

Doesn't scan.

It scans perfectly when read in the monotone of a CIA lawyer.

Rendition of the standard kind and form
Prov'd ineffective terrorists to bag
This Rizzo's course - his solemn oath foresworn
And failing duty signed this bane "Approv'd"
Thus torture 'gainst both law and heritage
This craven coward chose as CYA
The Hague, we hope, will host his barbecue

/Can't bring up a problem without offering a solution.


Please note, dear Fark, I chose not barbecue
 
2014-01-06 11:46:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1krJqn3smbI

These interrogators can handle my meat as long as they like.

More sauce please.
 
2014-01-07 12:17:31 AM

CivicMindedFive: I can see a reasonable person agreeing or disagreeing with this, but for the OMG BUSH-HITLER derpers, you do realize this was only done to three people.  Three very high level very bad people.  Random goat herders caught up in a battle in a cave in Pakistan were not subjected to this.  Also, are you people aware that the worst thing that was done is waterboarding?  Which sounds terrifying and I'd not like to undergo it, but it's basically about the lightest form of "torture" I can imagine.  In fact, it sounds like a liberals wet dream idea of what torture should be.  We are not talking about chopping off fingers and breaking bones or electrical shock.

Other than really not liking Bush since 2000, I don't get the intensity of the hate over this.


SO MUCH THIS

Broken bones, electrical shocks, forced buttsecks ... that kind of torture only happens to ordinary American prisoners in domestic institutions, not actual terrorists.
 
2014-01-07 12:45:12 AM
The tragic part is that today, guys like this CIA author have similarly covered their asses by deciding it is safer to kill those random goatherd / terror suspects rather than risk the embarrassment of locking up the wrong people at Guantanamo Bay and dealing with politics.

"And I'm fine with it," some State Department expert type said in an article I read recently, though I can't remember the cite. People are getting droned rather than locked up, because it's cleaner. It's literally like something from a Paul Verhoeven movie.
 
2014-01-07 02:00:39 AM

fredbox: CivicMindedFive: I can see a reasonable person agreeing or disagreeing with this, but for the OMG BUSH-HITLER derpers, you do realize this was only done to three people.  Three very high level very bad people.  Random goat herders caught up in a battle in a cave in Pakistan were not subjected to this.  Also, are you people aware that the worst thing that was done is waterboarding?  Which sounds terrifying and I'd not like to undergo it, but it's basically about the lightest form of "torture" I can imagine.  In fact, it sounds like a liberals wet dream idea of what torture should be.  We are not talking about chopping off fingers and breaking bones or electrical shock.

Other than really not liking Bush since 2000, I don't get the intensity of the hate over this.

SO MUCH THIS

Broken bones, electrical shocks, forced buttsecks ... that kind of torture only happens to ordinary American prisoners in domestic institutions, not actual terrorists.


"Because there are worse things, we shouldn't care too much about this."
 
2014-01-07 10:30:16 AM
lame.
 It's the tell-all note from a LAWYER who says the things he gave his okay to aren't really his fault.
past that
don't whine to me about the simulated drowning or discomfort of a few bad guys
...with the intent to save american lives
you really couldn't give a shiat beyond blaming bush for all the things
buncha manufactured outrage because of reasons
 
2014-01-07 11:35:55 AM
Just another pulp fiction to shelve Shrub's library.
Ya can't rewrite history w/o a library full of books.
 
2014-01-07 03:49:04 PM

smells_like_meat: Its only barbecue if you use charcoal


static.fjcdn.com
 
2014-01-07 04:26:14 PM

smells_like_meat: Its only barbecue if you use charcoal


A purist would specify chunk hardwood charcoal.  An artist would specify charcoal in it's pre-char wood form.
 
2014-01-07 06:48:08 PM

natas6.0: lame.
 It's the tell-all note from a LAWYER who says the things he gave his okay to aren't really his fault.
past that
don't whine to me about the simulated drowning or discomfort of a few bad guys
...with the intent to save american lives
you really couldn't give a shiat beyond blaming bush for all the things
buncha manufactured outrage because of reasons


How about somebody who trained interrogators telling you the following in no uncertain terms?
Torture does not lead to actionable or reliable intelligence because the subject will say anything at all to make it stop.
/Oh, wait. I just did.
 
2014-01-07 07:12:45 PM
Fark you, subby.If he HAD signed and 10s/1000s died because of his actions you'd be biatchin that he didn't do the right thing then.MORE terrorists need harsher treatment not less.
 
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