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2014-01-06 12:29:28 PM
5 votes:
As to graphs I look at source. If it is from Faux News I can reasonable be certain that it is not an accurate representation.

s24.postimg.org

Certain Fark posters are treated with the same degree of skepticism.
2014-01-06 11:38:08 AM
4 votes:
"How to lie with statistics" was first published in 1954. It's just as relevant today as it was then.

/should be mandatory reading in high school.
2014-01-06 10:45:34 AM
4 votes:
The only way to really know if an infographic can be trusted is to look for footnotes at the bottom. Footnotes are a real pain in the ass to format, so most people won't bother with them if they're just making a fake one. I mean, they might bother with one or two footnotes, tops, but that will be it. In the vast majority of cases, the following courses of action are appropriate:

Infographic with 3 or more footnotes: better than 90 percent chance of accuracy, use as basis for argument
Infographic with 1-2 footnotes: 50 percent chance of accuracy, post "Citation Needed" pic
Infographic with 0 footnotes: less than 10 percent chance of accuracy, accuse poster of trolling
2014-01-06 10:10:28 AM
4 votes:
If I read it on the internet, I just assume it's a lie.

Less mistakes that way.
2014-01-06 12:11:50 PM
3 votes:
imgs.xkcd.com

/The file itself is .png, make of it what you will.
2014-01-06 11:46:04 AM
3 votes:
www.edwardtufte.com
i like pie.
2014-01-06 11:45:26 AM
3 votes:
i.imgur.com
2014-01-06 11:34:19 AM
3 votes:
www.shodor.org
Beware the "best fit line"
2014-01-06 06:20:22 PM
2 votes:
What better indication of online lying do you need than this?

i.dailymail.co.uk
2014-01-06 12:45:23 PM
2 votes:

doglover: Private_Citizen: "How to lie with statistics" was first published in 1954. It's just as relevant today as it was then.

/should be mandatory reading in high school.


Would you read a book called "What Color Is The Sky?" that merely explained how the sky was in fact blue?

Statistics are lies. You can make them prove anything you want. The only reason they work in science is because everyone's trying to prove everyone else wrong so THEY get the precious grant money.


You're not helping.

This kind of blind cynicism is nearly as bad as a lack of critical thinking.
2014-01-06 12:40:48 PM
2 votes:
My favorite infographic:

img.fark.net
2014-01-06 12:25:49 PM
2 votes:
The Owners, for the most part, aren't too keen on the Internet because they can't buy it/own it.  this means they cannot control what is on it, unlike the Boob toob TV, where they can.

this troubles the Owners.   they don't like something that is Democratic and available to all.  that gives the little people too much say in things.  that gives the little people information that the Owners would prefer they don't have.

and that empowers the little people.

what if these little people use that knowledge to realize that the Owners are f*cking this Nation good for a dollar and a cent?
2014-01-06 04:58:11 PM
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: doglover: Would you read a book called "What Color Is The Sky?" that merely explained how the sky was in fact blue?

Yes, because (guess what?) the sky is not, in fact, blue. It only appears blue because the human eye is more sensitive one end of the spectrum. Otherwise, the sky would appear a greenish-blue.


Citation please. Because* I've read that the eye is most sensitive to green, which is why you weight RGB color values differently (green most heavily, then red, then blue) when you convert a color image to black and white.

*Sorry, "barbeque."
2014-01-06 01:52:28 PM
1 votes:

doglover: Statistics are lies. You can make them prove anything you want.


No you can't. If you do, you're just flat out lying. Has nothing to do with statistics.
2014-01-06 01:24:51 PM
1 votes:
People are intellectually dishonest and want to push their worldview onto others.

There.
2014-01-06 01:03:59 PM
1 votes:

8 inches: InterruptingQuirk: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 476x293]

I must have watched that scene 100 times and still could never figure it out. Was there an actual solution?


The classic "one lies, one tells the truth" puzzle is solved like this:

Ask one what the other guy would say were you to ask "Which is the safe door?"

I.e., ask either, "What would the other guy say if I were to ask him 'Which is the safe door?'?"

* if asked directly, Truth Guy would answer truthfully and point to the good door, so Lie Guy, when asked "What would the other guy say...", would lie and say that Truth Guy would indicate the bad door.

* if asked directly, Lie Guy would lie and indicate the bad door, so Truth Guy, when asked "What would the other guy say..." would tell the truth and say that Lie Guy would indicate the bad door.

Thus, either way, you know that the safe door is the door not pointed out.
2014-01-06 01:03:11 PM
1 votes:

Anayalator: [searchengineland.com image 500x221]


Don't think you're something special just because you did it first.

blog.stonebrew.com
2014-01-06 12:41:51 PM
1 votes:
FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: RE: OBAMA IS MUSLUM!!!1!
2014-01-06 12:36:24 PM
1 votes:

sdd2000: As to graphs I look at source. If it is from Faux News I can reasonable be certain that it is not an accurate representation.


Indeed


img.fark.net
2014-01-06 12:34:01 PM
1 votes:
ecx.images-amazon.com
2014-01-06 12:31:49 PM
1 votes:
The only way to spot a lie is to know the truth.
2014-01-06 12:31:08 PM
1 votes:
Who was the farker who would post Global Temperatures of 10 months and would say it showed temperatures went down for the "decade" because those 10 months were over the end of the decade?

We kept pointing out how misleading and wrong it was but he would keep posting them again and again.
2014-01-06 12:30:33 PM
1 votes:
If there is one thing I learned from the Internet, it's to not believe things I read on the Internet

/my head hurts
2014-01-06 12:25:59 PM
1 votes:
2014-01-06 12:25:16 PM
1 votes:

Linux_Yes: Mangoose: If I read it on the internet, I just assume it's a lie.

Less mistakes that way.


yea, and TV 'news' is just chock full of facts.   lol


i1.ytimg.com

;)
2014-01-06 12:21:33 PM
1 votes:

Carn: [i42.tinypic.com image 400x520]



its not hard if you know what to look for and how to verify sources.   Google is your Friend.
2014-01-06 12:19:26 PM
1 votes:
I teach statistics and teach these principles.  I've had "how to lie with statistics" a required text for class.

My only quibbles:

log transforms are used to make data make more sense.  Especially natural systems data.  Many data sets are log-normal and parametric statics drawn from the untransformed data can be very misleading.

data from for-profit companies can be fine if proper controls are in place.  For some things, that's the only source of data.
2014-01-06 12:16:00 PM
1 votes:
Subby uses the words "smokin' hot" when linking to a Daily Mail news item.
2014-01-06 12:08:47 PM
1 votes:
it's all lies.


i.imgur.com
2014-01-06 12:05:29 PM
1 votes:

Sybarite: [i.imgur.com image 850x566]


The real proof of how people don't understand graphs and charts is this document getting posted as if it were incorrect or humorous or created by an idiot.

The Y axis is labelled as starting at 13ft, 6in. The graph describes a total height range of 1 ft, 6 in. The housecat, at 1ft, 3in, is perfectly to scale.
2014-01-06 12:04:39 PM
1 votes:
i42.tinypic.com
2014-01-06 12:01:29 PM
1 votes:
Someone should show this to the graph and chart collectors that pop up and spam global warming threads
2014-01-06 11:56:25 AM
1 votes:
imgs.xkcd.com
2014-01-06 11:53:13 AM
1 votes:

zedster: Critical thinking, how the fark does it work?


Done in four.
2014-01-06 11:50:08 AM
1 votes:
But I was assured that organic foods really DO cause autism!

/shared this with my teabagger friends
//hope they take the time to read it and not just look at the pretty pictures
2014-01-06 11:49:31 AM
1 votes:

Archimedes' Principal: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Yeah but why should I trust FastCo Design?

According to them, you shouldn't:

Generally, we can trust data provided by:
•Government organizations
•University research laboratories
•Nonpartisan organizations
And we should look more closely at data provided by:
•For-profit companies
•Partisan organizations
•Advocacy groups
If the data source isn't listed, take the data visualization with many grains of salt.



What if your government organizations, University research laboratories, and "Nonpartisan" organizations are, in fact, partisan and advocating towards a specific agenda?
2014-01-06 11:43:56 AM
1 votes:
the pixels, it's always the pixels
2014-01-06 11:41:44 AM
1 votes:
images.fineartamerica.com

It's beautiful.
2014-01-06 11:38:46 AM
1 votes:
I found a lie on the internet.

3.bp.blogspot.com
2014-01-06 11:37:31 AM
1 votes:
searchengineland.com
2014-01-06 11:36:51 AM
1 votes:
If it's on the internet, assume it's a lie. That's my motto.
2014-01-06 11:33:52 AM
1 votes:
I really thought it was going to be about looking at pixels.
2014-01-06 11:31:41 AM
1 votes:
Rule 34
2014-01-06 10:53:41 AM
1 votes:

Because People in power are Stupid: dittybopper: I am telling a lie.

You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie, then you are telling the truth, but you cannot tell the truth because everything you say is a lie, but you lie... You tell the truth but you cannot for you lie... illogical! Illogical! Please explain! You are human. Only humans can explain their behavior! Please explain!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708432/quotes?item=qt0406610">http://ww w.imdb.com/title/tt0708432/quotes?item=qt0406610


Stella Mudd?  I'd totally hit that.

www.technovelgy.com
2014-01-06 10:52:25 AM
1 votes:
Bon Jour.
2014-01-06 10:12:33 AM
1 votes:
Dumb people who don't even have a fundamental sense of curiosity will no doubt blame this on the internet, instead of themselves.
2014-01-06 10:11:49 AM
1 votes:
blogs-images.forbes.com

Seems legit. I mean, it's an infographic. Surely we can trust an infographic.
 
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