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(Townhall)   The Battle of the Bulge proved that we weren't winning WWII and that the Germans weren't on the run   (townhall.com ) divider line 27
    More: Obvious, Battle of the Bulge, Major Victory, al-Qaeda, Iraq, Anbar Province, Anbar, Ramadi, David Limbaugh  
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2014-01-06 11:27:51 AM  
4 votes:

bronyaur1: Fine situation you set up there, neoconservatards.  YOU farkING OWN THIS.


This.

And FTFA:   President Obama has been repeatedly warned of the violent consequences of rapidly pulling U.S. troops from the country and now we're seeing the results of his exit strategy in Iraq: going backward.

That should be "going revisionist" you useless Townhall farks.

All American military forces were mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by 31 December 2011 under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008 by President Bush. (source)
2014-01-06 02:26:41 PM  
2 votes:
It was the Bush administration that made the agreement with the Iraq government to withdraw American forces from Iraq by the end of 2011. Fallujah is Iraq's problem now and they're not asking for help. Do these Townhall people want another invasion of Iraq? Was Obama supposed to renege on the withdrawal agreement. The fact that Al Qaeda has a strong presence in Iraq shows why we should have left Saddam Hussein alone in the first place.
2014-01-06 01:03:14 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-01-06 03:34:10 PM  
1 vote:
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2014-01-06 03:27:14 PM  
1 vote:
Stupid unnecessary wars cause problems that last decades down the line.  World doesn't reboot on change of administration in the U.S.  Idiot neoconservatives want to cause more problems.
2014-01-06 03:01:28 PM  
1 vote:

EWreckedSean: We Get Out of Iraq: Thanks Obama for getting us out!
We Get Out of Iraq, and Al Qaeda has a Big Win There: It was Bush's deal!

Same game goes both ways.


It goes one way.

Bush:  We're invading Iraq, dismantling the Baath party government, and dissolving the army!
People:  If we do that, we'll be stuck in the middle of a civil war that we have no business in!
Bush:  Nope!
Reality:  Yep!
Bush:  OK, we'll get out.
Obama:  We'll get out.
Republicans:  Slow going?  What gives?
Reality:  He's following the timeline.
Obama:  OK, we're out.
Republicans: Look what you got us out of!  We told you this would happen!
Everyone else: ???
Republicans: Nyeh!

So shove it.
2014-01-06 02:59:43 PM  
1 vote:

EWreckedSean: coeyagi: RyogaM: Remember when Republicans said Obama didn't deserve any credit for withdrawing from Iraq because he was just following the agreement for withdraw that Bush made?  I guess that Surge wasn't as successful as you all thought it was, huh?

Get bent, Republicans.

Gas Prices Up:  Obama.
Gas Prices Down:  But but but presidents don't affect gas prices!

SSDI - same sh*t different issue

We Get Out of Iraq: Thanks Obama for getting us out!
We Get Out of Iraq, and Al Qaeda has a Big Win There: It was Bush's deal!

Same game goes both ways.


This is kinda a retarded statement, ace.

Bush got us into this mess.  Bush signed the deal to get us out and Obama kept the deal.
Only in your ravenous, craven, rabid mind do us libs give Obama sole credit for getting us out of Iraq.
But no one can argue who got us the f*ck in.  Regardless of who gets the credit for getting us out, we all know who is ultimately to blame for this happening - the asshole who lied us into war in the first place.
2014-01-06 02:51:38 PM  
1 vote:

EWreckedSean: coeyagi: RyogaM: Remember when Republicans said Obama didn't deserve any credit for withdrawing from Iraq because he was just following the agreement for withdraw that Bush made?  I guess that Surge wasn't as successful as you all thought it was, huh?

Get bent, Republicans.

Gas Prices Up:  Obama.
Gas Prices Down:  But but but presidents don't affect gas prices!

SSDI - same sh*t different issue

We Get Out of Iraq: Thanks Obama for getting us out!
We Get Out of Iraq, and Al Qaeda has a Big Win There: It was Bush's deal!

Same game goes both ways.


Your mind: Where this is true.
Reality: Where this is potato.

varmitydog: As a patriotic American, I could care less which group of Muslims owns Fallujah. I'm just grateful that no more of my fellow Americans are being killed and crippled over there. We never should have gone in the first place, the job was poorly planned and botched and now it is over.

Therefore it follows that I think any politician or writer making a fuss about this should just stop, because what they are actually advocating is killing more Americans.


^This^
2014-01-06 02:41:53 PM  
1 vote:
As a patriotic American, I could care less which group of Muslims owns Fallujah. I'm just grateful that no more of my fellow Americans are being killed and crippled over there. We never should have gone in the first place, the job was poorly planned and botched and now it is over.

Therefore it follows that I think any politician or writer making a fuss about this should just stop, because what they are actually advocating is killing more Americans.
2014-01-06 01:50:53 PM  
1 vote:

Satanic_Hamster: trotsky: Jesus Christ, these people. Bush and his band of merry morons entered into the country with absolutely no plans for the termination of the conflict. Even the goddamn JCS and most of the top brass had zero idea on how to end it, or for that matter how to fight it. That's why 5,000 American lost their lives: because the Bush Administration and the top commanders had no idea what they were going to encounter and absolutely no plans to end the farking war.

I really do think these people are morons of the highest caliber.

Actually, it's worse than that.  They drew up the plans back during the FIRST Gulf War, Cheney and Rumsfield.  They successfully predicted then how many troops they would need to occupy Iraq, what they would need to secure, the problems with sectarian violence, and the need to preserve the Iraqi army.  Then they ignored all of that when they finally had the chance to invade 10 years later.


It's way worse than that. Remember Dick Cheney was involved in the first Iraq War.

"Now you can say, well, you should have gone to Baghdad and gotten Saddam. I don't think so. I think if we had done that we would have been bogged down there for a very long period of time with the real possibility we might not have succeeded. "
2014-01-06 01:41:09 PM  
1 vote:
The funny thing is that I bet a lot of GOP morons would try to argue, with a straight face, that the ACA is a bigger policy blunder than the Bush Administration's Iraq war.
2014-01-06 01:39:34 PM  
1 vote:
Gee, it's almost like Republicans shouldn't have lied us into getting entangled in a completely unnecessary war in Iraq in the first place.
2014-01-06 01:33:43 PM  
1 vote:

OnlyM3: Obama's been retreating on all fronts. Why not this one too?


There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq until Bush invaded.
2014-01-06 01:17:38 PM  
1 vote:
While the battle of the bulge was a tremendous tactical victory for the Germans, at least at first, it was an incomprehensible strategic disaster on every other level

Great analogy.....
2014-01-06 01:17:14 PM  
1 vote:
Good grief, the people who read Town Hall on a regular basis must be incredible morons...
2014-01-06 01:15:22 PM  
1 vote:

RyogaM: Remember when Republicans said Obama didn't deserve any credit for withdrawing from Iraq because he was just following the agreement for withdraw that Bush made?  I guess that Surge wasn't as successful as you all thought it was, huh?

Get bent, Republicans.


Gas Prices Up:  Obama.
Gas Prices Down:  But but but presidents don't affect gas prices!

SSDI - same sh*t different issue
2014-01-06 01:14:00 PM  
1 vote:

trotsky: I really do think these people are morons of the highest caliber.


Oh, no, they're not morons.  They're sociopaths.  Very different.

Morons don't know how many people they'll kill to achieve their goals.

Sociopaths know exactly how many people they'll kill, and don't care.

Not sending the whole gang to the Hague on Jan 21st 2008 was the biggest mistake of the Obama Presidency.
2014-01-06 01:13:57 PM  
1 vote:
Ah, good ol' ClownHall. Wrong about everything, always.

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2014-01-06 01:13:48 PM  
1 vote:

Maud Dib: Good fiction book about the Battle of the Bulge.


[jacketupload.macmillanusa.com image 403x648]

Fark you, subby, and fark you, modmins for greenlighting this crap.


From the front cover: "Imagine Saving Private Ryan minus everything but the battle scenes. -Dipsh*t."

I can.  It's called a video game.  Real wars have stories that are shaped by the atrocities of war, not mindless bloodshed kept out of context.  Publisher of said book, you really sowed up the Faux Patriot demographic, no one else.
2014-01-06 01:11:35 PM  
1 vote:
Remember when Republicans said Obama didn't deserve any credit for withdrawing from Iraq because he was just following the agreement for withdraw that Bush made?  I guess that Surge wasn't as successful as you all thought it was, huh?

Get bent, Republicans.
2014-01-06 01:08:16 PM  
1 vote:
Let me repeat what someone posted above.

All American military forces were mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by 31 December 2011 under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008 by President Bush.

That isn't to say Obama pushed to keep troops there; he did. But the Iraqis wouldn't rule out civil and criminal trials in the Iraqi justice system for US personnel.

So buh-bye. Thanks for the fun times.

/hope BP enjoys running those Iraqi oil fields. Nice little con the Brits pulled on the US. Again.
2014-01-06 01:07:42 PM  
1 vote:
Good fiction book about the Battle of the Bulge.


jacketupload.macmillanusa.com

Fark you, subby, and fark you, modmins for greenlighting this crap.
2014-01-06 01:00:41 PM  
1 vote:
Jesus Christ, these people. Bush and his band of merry morons entered into the country with absolutely no plans for the termination of the conflict. Even the goddamn JCS and most of the top brass had zero idea on how to end it, or for that matter how to fight it. That's why 5,000 American lost their lives: because the Bush Administration and the top commanders had no idea what they were going to encounter and absolutely no plans to end the farking war.

I really do think these people are morons of the highest caliber.
2014-01-06 11:42:40 AM  
1 vote:
Have McCain and Graham EVER met a war they didn't like??
2014-01-06 11:40:49 AM  
1 vote:
Obama should have just refused. All out full military conquest of Iraq, killing all who opposed or refused our money to rule harshly. After all, a bribe to a warlord is nothing more than encouraging a capitalist freedom fighter.

Then he should have demanded the life of every firstborn baby. After he and Ellen DeGeneres, AKA: whore of Babylon, could up have made mad, passionate love while performing marriage rights between man and male turtles.
2014-01-06 11:35:30 AM  
1 vote:
Why was this trollish POS greened?
2014-01-06 10:47:12 AM  
1 vote:
Fine situation you set up there, neoconservatards.  YOU farkING OWN THIS.
 
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