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(Townhall)   The Battle of the Bulge proved that we weren't winning WWII and that the Germans weren't on the run   (townhall.com) divider line 115
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2014-01-06 10:22:36 AM
Obama's been retreating on all fronts. Why not this one too?
 
2014-01-06 10:47:12 AM
Fine situation you set up there, neoconservatards.  YOU farkING OWN THIS.
 
2014-01-06 11:27:51 AM

bronyaur1: Fine situation you set up there, neoconservatards.  YOU farkING OWN THIS.


This.

And FTFA:   President Obama has been repeatedly warned of the violent consequences of rapidly pulling U.S. troops from the country and now we're seeing the results of his exit strategy in Iraq: going backward.

That should be "going revisionist" you useless Townhall farks.

All American military forces were mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by 31 December 2011 under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008 by President Bush.  (source)
 
2014-01-06 11:35:03 AM
I like screaming into the wind.

Does anyone else like screaming into the wind?
 
2014-01-06 11:35:30 AM
Why was this trollish POS greened?
 
2014-01-06 11:40:49 AM
Obama should have just refused. All out full military conquest of Iraq, killing all who opposed or refused our money to rule harshly. After all, a bribe to a warlord is nothing more than encouraging a capitalist freedom fighter.

Then he should have demanded the life of every firstborn baby. After he and Ellen DeGeneres, AKA: whore of Babylon, could up have made mad, passionate love while performing marriage rights between man and male turtles.
 
2014-01-06 11:40:49 AM
Senator McCain and Graham: "While many Iraqis are responsible for this strategic disaster, the administration cannot escape its share of the blame," the senators said in a joint statement. "When President Obama withdrew all U.S. forces ... over the objections of our military leaders and commanders on the ground...

Even given that the withdrawal agreement was signed by the previous Administration, are Senators really suggesting we occupy Iraq with boots on the ground against the will of its government? I recall President Bush repeatedly emphasizing that this would not and should not be done. And he was right.
 
2014-01-06 11:42:40 AM
Have McCain and Graham EVER met a war they didn't like??
 
2014-01-06 11:42:45 AM
Send in the Jew Bear.
 
2014-01-06 12:01:35 PM

vudukungfu: Send in the Jew Bear.


img.fark.net


Or did you mean "Bear Jew"?
 
2014-01-06 12:06:43 PM

OnlyM3: Obama's been retreating on all fronts. Why not this one too?


Cry all you want. Obama is the one that bailed us out of Bush's mistakes.

i.cnn.net
 
2014-01-06 12:13:02 PM
Can't help but wonder just what articles Townhall would be running if the US will still fully involved in Iraq.

I'm pretty sure we could imagine.
 
2014-01-06 12:19:24 PM
How low-functioning does someone have to be to simultaneously hold the ideas "Cut gubmint spending to zero for freedom" and "Our military must be invincible and deployed worldwide forever so Al Kayder don't blow up what for the Skeeter Holler grange hall?"
 
2014-01-06 12:39:03 PM
What the hell does this analogy mean>
 
2014-01-06 12:39:16 PM

Sid_6.7: Why was this trollish POS greened?


I have to agree with this statement.
 
2014-01-06 12:54:33 PM
mentalfloss.com


If I repeatedly bash your face into this, it looks like a f*cking hot dog.  Or else.
 
2014-01-06 12:56:36 PM

Somacandra: Senator McCain and Graham: "While many Iraqis are responsible for this strategic disaster, the administration cannot escape its share of the blame," the senators said in a joint statement. "When President Obama withdrew all U.S. forces ... over the objections of our military leaders and commanders on the ground...

Even given that the withdrawal agreement was signed by the previous Administration, are Senators really suggesting we occupy Iraq with boots on the ground against the will of its government? I recall President Bush repeatedly emphasizing that this would not and should not be done. And he was right.


"Sen. McCain, General Shinseki is on line two."
 
2014-01-06 12:59:24 PM
I hear that the peace with the Yorks is collapsing.  Thanks Henry VIII Obama!
 
2014-01-06 01:00:41 PM
Jesus Christ, these people. Bush and his band of merry morons entered into the country with absolutely no plans for the termination of the conflict. Even the goddamn JCS and most of the top brass had zero idea on how to end it, or for that matter how to fight it. That's why 5,000 American lost their lives: because the Bush Administration and the top commanders had no idea what they were going to encounter and absolutely no plans to end the farking war.

I really do think these people are morons of the highest caliber.
 
2014-01-06 01:02:08 PM
Great, I gave a click to a Townhall link.
 
2014-01-06 01:03:14 PM
Townhall
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2014-01-06 01:03:27 PM
Clownhall rooting for Al Qaeda?
 
2014-01-06 01:03:30 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-06 01:04:37 PM
Look they are just upset that when President Cheney gets back into power he will have to re-invade Iraq, instead of invading Iran. The invasion of Iran is now six years behind schedule.
 
2014-01-06 01:07:42 PM
Good fiction book about the Battle of the Bulge.


jacketupload.macmillanusa.com

Fark you, subby, and fark you, modmins for greenlighting this crap.
 
2014-01-06 01:08:16 PM
Let me repeat what someone posted above.

All American military forces were mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by 31 December 2011 under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008 by President Bush.

That isn't to say Obama pushed to keep troops there; he did. But the Iraqis wouldn't rule out civil and criminal trials in the Iraqi justice system for US personnel.

So buh-bye. Thanks for the fun times.

/hope BP enjoys running those Iraqi oil fields. Nice little con the Brits pulled on the US. Again.
 
2014-01-06 01:09:33 PM
There was that time at Gettysburg and everyone knew this could be the decisive battle of the war. Then Ol' Rob Lee ordered Pickett to charge, with the full approval of Barack Nonsane Maobama, and into the teeth of Meade they charged, thusly changing the whole face of the battle, and enabling Obama to ascend to the presidency where he destroyed America by dropping an upper decker in the Supreme Court restroom and wiping his filthy anus on the constitution.
 
2014-01-06 01:09:53 PM
The former governor of Anbar was quoted in the media yesterday as saying that there's an estimated 50-100 insurgents in Fallujah and Ramadi creating all this ruckus.  I think that the Iraqi army should be able to take care of a few dozen people.  If they're that incompetent, then fark em
 
2014-01-06 01:10:46 PM
"War is Hell"

- Bill Murray
 
2014-01-06 01:11:35 PM
Remember when Republicans said Obama didn't deserve any credit for withdrawing from Iraq because he was just following the agreement for withdraw that Bush made?  I guess that Surge wasn't as successful as you all thought it was, huh?

Get bent, Republicans.
 
2014-01-06 01:11:35 PM

whither_apophis: Somacandra: Senator McCain and Graham: "While many Iraqis are responsible for this strategic disaster, the administration cannot escape its share of the blame," the senators said in a joint statement. "When President Obama withdrew all U.S. forces ... over the objections of our military leaders and commanders on the ground...

Even given that the withdrawal agreement was signed by the previous Administration, are Senators really suggesting we occupy Iraq with boots on the ground against the will of its government? I recall President Bush repeatedly emphasizing that this would not and should not be done. And he was right.

"Sen. McCain, General Shinseki is on line two."


iLol'd

// that's "United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs GEN Eric Shinseki" to you, bub
 
2014-01-06 01:13:32 PM
On the run.
 
2014-01-06 01:13:48 PM

Maud Dib: Good fiction book about the Battle of the Bulge.


[jacketupload.macmillanusa.com image 403x648]

Fark you, subby, and fark you, modmins for greenlighting this crap.


From the front cover: "Imagine Saving Private Ryan minus everything but the battle scenes. -Dipsh*t."

I can.  It's called a video game.  Real wars have stories that are shaped by the atrocities of war, not mindless bloodshed kept out of context.  Publisher of said book, you really sowed up the Faux Patriot demographic, no one else.
 
2014-01-06 01:13:52 PM

Maud Dib: Good fiction book about the Battle of the Bulge.


[jacketupload.macmillanusa.com image 403x648]

Fark you, subby, and fark you, modmins for greenlighting this crap.


The Bulge was so messed up. Hitler put all of his remaining eggs to an attack that relied on a non-existent supply system and the weather. Most scholars tend to think he shortened the Reich's time because he routed all these units West instead of East, where they should have been against the Soviets. Some even go so far as to posit that the post-war world may have changed because the Allies would have been able to take much more of Germany if the East had had the units Hitler sent to their doom in the Ardennes.
 
2014-01-06 01:13:57 PM
Ah, good ol' ClownHall. Wrong about everything, always.

imagizer.imageshack.us
 
2014-01-06 01:14:00 PM

trotsky: I really do think these people are morons of the highest caliber.


Oh, no, they're not morons.  They're sociopaths.  Very different.

Morons don't know how many people they'll kill to achieve their goals.

Sociopaths know exactly how many people they'll kill, and don't care.

Not sending the whole gang to the Hague on Jan 21st 2008 was the biggest mistake of the Obama Presidency.
 
2014-01-06 01:15:22 PM

RyogaM: Remember when Republicans said Obama didn't deserve any credit for withdrawing from Iraq because he was just following the agreement for withdraw that Bush made?  I guess that Surge wasn't as successful as you all thought it was, huh?

Get bent, Republicans.


Gas Prices Up:  Obama.
Gas Prices Down:  But but but presidents don't affect gas prices!

SSDI - same sh*t different issue
 
2014-01-06 01:15:30 PM
i.imgur.com

well, at least they are consistent.
 
2014-01-06 01:16:39 PM

Superjew: trotsky: I really do think these people are morons of the highest caliber.

Oh, no, they're not morons.  They're sociopaths.  Very different.

Morons don't know how many people they'll kill to achieve their goals.

Sociopaths know exactly how many people they'll kill, and don't care.

Not sending the whole gang to the Hague on Jan 21st 2008 was the biggest mistake of the Obama Presidency.


I am pretty sure more useful endeavors could be had by the magic time machine than just trips 365 days to the past.
 
2014-01-06 01:17:14 PM
Good grief, the people who read Town Hall on a regular basis must be incredible morons...
 
2014-01-06 01:17:34 PM

trotsky: Maud Dib: Good fiction book about the Battle of the Bulge.


[jacketupload.macmillanusa.com image 403x648]

Fark you, subby, and fark you, modmins for greenlighting this crap.

The Bulge was so messed up. Hitler put all of his remaining eggs to an attack that relied on a non-existent supply system and the weather. Most scholars tend to think he shortened the Reich's time because he routed all these units West instead of East, where they should have been against the Soviets. Some even go so far as to posit that the post-war world may have changed because the Allies would have been able to take much more of Germany if the East had had the units Hitler sent to their doom in the Ardennes.


What I never understood was why the Allies would think the Germans would never repeat what they had already done twice in the 20th century--rapidly push out of the Ardennes and head West ASAP. The last time they did it was in 1939.

I understand about believing the Nazis were spent but to not cover their warm traditional path of welcome is unbelievable.
 
2014-01-06 01:17:38 PM
While the battle of the bulge was a tremendous tactical victory for the Germans, at least at first, it was an incomprehensible strategic disaster on every other level

Great analogy.....
 
2014-01-06 01:18:52 PM

thamike: [mentalfloss.com image 640x430]


If I repeatedly bash your face into this, it looks like a f*cking hot dog.  Or else.


i.imgur.com

Is it a boat?
 
2014-01-06 01:19:34 PM

Sid_6.7: Why was this trollish POS greened?


As if this one particular link will besmirch an otherwise sterling track record of vetted, credible articles and reasonable discourse here in the Fark politics tab.

"Why?" Pfffft.
 
2014-01-06 01:20:46 PM

vernonFL: Have McCain and Graham EVER met a war they didn't like??


Lybia when Obama got involved and Syria when it looked like Obama would get involved.
 
2014-01-06 01:24:52 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: trotsky: Maud Dib: Good fiction book about the Battle of the Bulge.


[jacketupload.macmillanusa.com image 403x648]

Fark you, subby, and fark you, modmins for greenlighting this crap.

The Bulge was so messed up. Hitler put all of his remaining eggs to an attack that relied on a non-existent supply system and the weather. Most scholars tend to think he shortened the Reich's time because he routed all these units West instead of East, where they should have been against the Soviets. Some even go so far as to posit that the post-war world may have changed because the Allies would have been able to take much more of Germany if the East had had the units Hitler sent to their doom in the Ardennes.

What I never understood was why the Allies would think the Germans would never repeat what they had already done twice in the 20th century--rapidly push out of the Ardennes and head West ASAP. The last time they did it was in 1939.

I understand about believing the Nazis were spent but to not cover their warm traditional path of welcome is unbelievable.


Allied Intelligence knew something was up. By this point the Germans had began to adapt to the lack of the Luftwaffe by hiding their force build-ups. The Ardennes luckily had plenty of cover. Like the Chinese attack in Northern Korea in 1950, nobody at the top believed it would happen. The Germans were damn lucky and almost did what they set out to do. Guts and some balls prevented them.
 
2014-01-06 01:26:54 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: How low-functioning does someone have to be to simultaneously hold the ideas "Cut gubmint spending to zero for freedom" and "Our military must be invincible and deployed worldwide forever so Al Kayder don't blow up what for the Skeeter Holler grange hall?"


Here's a list of good to bad in their minds.

American Whites>US Government>Browns>Rest of the World.

//The order in the middle may be a bit mixed up, but basically it.
 
2014-01-06 01:29:41 PM

thamike: [mentalfloss.com image 640x430]


If I repeatedly bash your face into this, it looks like a f*cking hot dog.  Or else.


It's  Schooner.
 
2014-01-06 01:30:13 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: What I never understood was why the Allies would think the Germans would never repeat what they had already done twice in the 20th century--rapidly push out of the Ardennes and head West ASAP. The last time they did it was in 1939.

I understand about believing the Nazis were spent but to not cover their warm traditional path of welcome is unbelievable.


Generally, when that sort of thing happens, you get warnings.  You see troops being moved around by aerial reconnaissance.  You hear them being moved by their radio transmissions, and even if you can't read the actual messages, you can follow the movements by successively DF'ing their transmissions.  And a lack of transmissions can be an indicator also.  Spies that can count vehicles and the like and report back are helpful (like local resistance movements).

The problem is that none of these things were available to the Allies.  Aerial photography was shut down by the bad weather.  The Germans no longer needed to use radio transmissions as much because they were on their own soil and could use the conventional telephone and telegraph lines to communicate.  The information given to the Allies about German movements by the French Resistance was no longer available.

There just was no real solid intelligence that the Germans were going to do what they did.
 
2014-01-06 01:32:08 PM

Superjew: trotsky: I really do think these people are morons of the highest caliber.

Oh, no, they're not morons.  They're sociopaths.  Very different.

Morons don't know how many people they'll kill to achieve their goals.

Sociopaths know exactly how many people they'll kill, and don't care.

Not sending the whole gang to the Hague on Jan 21st 2008 was the biggest mistake of the Obama Presidency.


i301.photobucket.com
The one time it would have done some good.
 
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