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2014-01-06 03:58:28 PM
Hall County schools closed tomorrow. I still have to work.
 
2014-01-06 04:03:35 PM

LesserEvil: Stuck at home in Mid-Michigan after 14 inches of snow fell. Getting a kick....

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Temps plunging to -5 tomorrow.


What you (may) fail to understand is our snow and ice removal equipment.  We don't have a lot and by a not lot I mean almost none.  I think my entire county has 4 sand/salt trucks.  I have never see one, or evidence of one, on my street not the larger street that connects my subdivison to the outside world.  If my street gets an inch of snow or any amount over ice I'm simply not able to get my car out.  And even if i did then I have to contend with roller coaster hills that would result in my car being left at the bottom of one.

I get a kick out of Northen folk mocking the cold in the South.  Come down in late July and we'll see who's whining :)
 
2014-01-06 04:26:30 PM

KidneyStone: LesserEvil: Stuck at home in Mid-Michigan after 14 inches of snow fell. Getting a kick....

[i.imgur.com image 800x600]

Temps plunging to -5 tomorrow.

What you (may) fail to understand is our snow and ice removal equipment.  We don't have a lot and by a not lot I mean almost none.  I think my entire county has 4 sand/salt trucks.  I have never see one, or evidence of one, on my street not the larger street that connects my subdivison to the outside world.  If my street gets an inch of snow or any amount over ice I'm simply not able to get my car out.  And even if i did then I have to contend with roller coaster hills that would result in my car being left at the bottom of one.

I get a kick out of Northen folk mocking the cold in the South.  Come down in late July and we'll see who's whining :)


I lived in coastal South Carolina for a few years. I've seen how they freak out over 1/4" of snow, posting plow trucks at bridges and becoming shut-ins after hoarding supplies from the local Piggly Wiggly.

A little snow at temps of 25 or less shouldn't be that much of a concern - it won't be that slick. Take those conditions right at 32degF, and you've got problems, since the snow melts and refreezes as black ice. While we are equipped as a northern state for snow, unfortunately, our highways are still engineered by civil engineers in southern California, which means cloverleafs (always fun to exit when iced over), curving overpasses, and stretches of highway that run perfect for the wind to freeze (I-96 just west of Detroit is particularly bad for this, turning into a skate rink). I'm sure those details apply doubly so for a southern state.
 
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2014-01-06 04:35:06 PM
Tom_Slick: there would be no one in Atlanta as they would have died up north before they moved here.

....and we're done.
 
2014-01-06 04:42:16 PM

Infinity370: AngryDragon: Damn global warming.

Might look at what's currently happening in Australia.


Or Alaska.
 
2014-01-06 04:43:01 PM
Sitting here in east central FL I think I just felt the first rush of cooler air finally push through the north-facing window beside my desk. I may have to put a shirt on in a few hours.
 
2014-01-06 04:50:05 PM

dittybopper: Uncivil Engineer: South Texas reporting in...High today was forcasted at 40, and it only got up to 35.  It is supposed to get down to 25 tonight.  This morning it was 28.

I will try to enjoy the cold, because I know in August, I will miss it.

See, the thing is, if it's cold, you can always bundle up to a comfort level, unless you happen to be, say, wintering over at Amundsen-Scott base in Antarctica.

When it's hot, you can only remove so much clothing until you are naked, and still uncomfortably hot.

So I much prefer the cold over the heat, because all things being equal, I can deal with the cold more easily.


I'm the exact opposite. Wearing six layers is really annoying and uncomfortable, and your nose still freezes off unless you're wearing a mask. And cold HURTS. Once your feet and hands get cold, even if you go into a warm place, it takes hours to warm up properly. Having ice blocks for feet is pretty much my least favorite thing.

Being hot is only mildly uncomfortable to me. I don't mind sweating at all; I'm a huge fan of saunas and steam rooms. The only problem with being too hot is when it lasts too long. And as soon as you go inside to a place with air conditioning, you instantly get relief.
 
2014-01-06 06:13:30 PM

TNel: thornhill: wxboy: thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.

1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.

Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.

I also question what the extra heads up really does for parents. Unless you're really rich, you're not paying for unscheduled childcare. At my office, parents have either: 1) Taken their kids with them to work (stuck them in conference rooms with TVs); 2) Just taken the day off to be home with their kids; or 3) Their parents are watching the kids.

The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.

If you have before and after school care they will watch them when school is cancelled and not charge you extra.


In MN, Anytime Fitness runs a Kid Camp on days school is canceled. $30 for 8-6. My grandson begs for it.
 
2014-01-06 08:15:46 PM
It's a crisp -1 here but will be 100 degrees again before you know it

meh
 
2014-01-06 09:26:20 PM

dittybopper: o'really: Piling on a million layers then peeling them off is a hassle. I overheat in down and underheat in other things. Getting wet when cold is the worst.

Wool is your best friend.

I hate down myself, and only wear it on the very, very coldest days.  I made the mistake of wearing it today, when the temp was only about 30 F, and I had to completely turn off the heater in the car and just get cold air in because I was sweating.


Funny you mention that, because my sister was just home for the holidays, and extolling the benefits of wool, which is making her reconsider her aversion to putting down roots in the northeast

/ only took her 8 ny winters...
 
2014-01-06 09:31:03 PM
It's 14 degrees here now in the city.. Will be down to 4 tonight. Horse is 40 miles away, wearing three blankets. Cats are right here, curled up beside me on the sofa (I'm not dumb enough to try putting a sweater on the laid back one again).

Maybe not getting that job in Chicago wasn't such a bad thing....

I just hope all the animals that don't have a person to take care of them find somewhere warm.
 
2014-01-06 11:38:25 PM
UtileDysfunktion: ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.

...with a cactus.

/enjoy your brush fires next summer

At least it'll be warm.

What are you and your moose-farking brethren from Canada doing to stay warm?


Burning California.

/sorry, couldn't resist
//not from anywhere near Canadia

skeevy420: Scientifically correct or not, I've seen it happen first hand.  Whether it was from the below freezing wind chill, the panels still being below freezing from the night before, or the thermometer being inaccurate, I've seen frost and light ice build up on metal in humid, cold winds when the temperature was still slightly above freezing (33-36F).

Wind chill is what temperature the air feels like because you are not able to maintain a buffer of warm, body heated air around you.  More heat is pulled out of your body.  It does not change the freezing point of water.


http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/11/at-what-temperature- do es-water-freeze/

No, but temperature isn't the only thing that determines the exact freezing/thawing point of water. Not to mention that when the temperature is right at that point, things get real fun. A big one is if, as is common, it's not pure water - Raoult's Law covers that...

http://cssac.unc.edu/programs/learning-center/Resources/Study/Guides /C hemistry%20102/Solutions
 
2014-01-07 12:01:08 AM
-30 to -40 here in Niagara Falls. Still have to go to work tomorrow cuz someone has to watch the unstable people.
/mental health social worker
 
2014-01-07 01:13:41 AM

okiemule: UtileDysfunktion: ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.

...with a cactus.

/enjoy your brush fires next summer

At least it'll be warm.

What are you and your moose-farking brethren from Canada doing to stay warm?

Burning California.

/sorry, couldn't resist
//not from anywhere near Canadia

skeevy420: Scientifically correct or not, I've seen it happen first hand.  Whether it was from the below freezing wind chill, the panels still being below freezing from the night before, or the thermometer being inaccurate, I've seen frost and light ice build up on metal in humid, cold winds when the temperature was still slightly above freezing (33-36F).

Wind chill is what temperature the air feels like because you are not able to maintain a buffer of warm, body heated air around you.  More heat is pulled out of your body.  It does not change the freezing point of water.

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/11/at-what-temperature- do es-water-freeze/

No, but temperature isn't the only thing that determines the exact freezing/thawing point of water. Not to mention that when the temperature is right at that point, things get real fun. A big one is if, as is common, it's not pure water - Raoult's Law covers that...

http://cssac.unc.edu/programs/learning-center/Resources/Study/Guides /C hemistry%20102/Solutions


Do tell, what determines the freezing point of water?  I know the colligative property of solute concentration is a big one.  That's why adding salts is so popular this time of year.  Also, atmospheric pressure is important.  Of course, down here near sea level it's always about 32 degrees F.  So what else?
 
2014-01-07 09:41:24 AM

thornhill: Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.
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The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.


The closures never had anything to do with ice. These windchills are farking dangerous all by themselves. Kids could get frostbite in as little as five minutes. If a bus were to run a little late for any reason kids would be in serious danger. It's just not worth it. And it's kind of disturbing hearing about parents that would rather send their kids out in this than deal with the inconvenience of being parents.
 
2014-01-07 10:43:30 AM

the_foo: thornhill: Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.
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The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.

The closures never had anything to do with ice. These windchills are farking dangerous all by themselves. Kids could get frostbite in as little as five minutes. If a bus were to run a little late for any reason kids would be in serious danger. It's just not worth it. And it's kind of disturbing hearing about parents that would rather send their kids out in this than deal with the inconvenience of being parents.


The news said it was ice because of the expected rain on Sunday evening.
 
2014-01-07 11:43:46 AM

the_foo: thornhill: Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.
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The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.

The closures never had anything to do with ice. These windchills are farking dangerous all by themselves. Kids could get frostbite in as little as five minutes. If a bus were to run a little late for any reason kids would be in serious danger. It's just not worth it. And it's kind of disturbing hearing about parents that would rather send their kids out in this than deal with the inconvenience of being parents.


Most school buses are diesel fueled. At -25F, that xhit is like heavy honey.
Just too expensive to make fleets reliable in cold weather.
 
2014-01-07 05:51:20 PM
Meanwhile, it's above freezing in Moscow, Russia. The snow is actually starting to melt a bit, which doesn't normally occur until April. It's awesome
 
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