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2014-01-06 11:45:26 AM  

snocone: DubtodaIll: Karne: DubtodaIll: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Chance of librul, 90%

Chance of this guy living in a flyover state, wearing over-alls with no shirt, and loading his shotgun while muttering something about the dang scary black president - 96 percent.

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.

Ha Ha, you really expect the 1% to let you vote for a "leader"?
Oh my, that is so cute.


I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.
 
2014-01-06 11:48:25 AM  
Hebalo: DubtodaIll: And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't.

Not to make this a politics thread, but Obama is a GREAT DEAR leader, it's just that half of the government decided not to agree with him on anything, long before he was elected.

FTFY
 
2014-01-06 11:49:57 AM  
Infinity370


AngryDragon: Damn global warming.

Might look at what's currently happening in Australia.
Might want to look at the global warming conspiracy boat that's stuck in 30 ft of ice -in the summer of the year g.w. nutbags predicted no more sea ice -and that snow would be a distant memory children would read about only in story books-.
 
2014-01-06 11:51:08 AM  
www.sonofthesouth.net

/can help y'all with that
 
2014-01-06 11:52:29 AM  
Stuck at home in Mid-Michigan after 14 inches of snow fell. Getting a kick....

i.imgur.com

Temps plunging to -5 tomorrow.
 
2014-01-06 11:54:01 AM  

moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.


Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.
 
2014-01-06 11:54:57 AM  
The key to survival is making sure no skin whatsoever is exposed. I would go with the balaclava in these situations if I did not have to worry about getting shot by heroic cops. I recommend wrapping a warm wool scarf multiple times around the neck/face until you look like a mummy. The next step is the stocking cap. It is really important to get an extra long stocking cap. Pull it down over your eyes as sight is very overrated when the windchill is -40 like it is here in Chicago today. Finally, buy a handwarmer, activate it, and stick it down the front of your pants (although make sure it's not down there too long). This will buy you about 20 minutes outside.
 
2014-01-06 11:56:17 AM  
104 posts in and no Squidbillies? Fark be slippin'.

/ on mobile, can't do it myself
// Dan Halen be controlling the weather in Dougal County
 
2014-01-06 11:56:38 AM  

VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.


Same where i am in FL. oh noes it may get in the 40s tonight
 
2014-01-06 11:56:48 AM  
High today of 16 in Memphis but whatevs
 
2014-01-06 12:00:52 PM  

thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.


1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.
 
2014-01-06 12:01:48 PM  

VivianVivisect: Molavian: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Yeah, but you have to live in California.

O....Kay

I feel like I should be oppressed in someway... I'm not.


Me too... But I'll have to remember that I spent yesterday under blue skies and sun at the skatepark with the girlfriend.

Not huddled inside trying not to freeze to death.

Yeah, California sucks.

/Born in St. Paul, MN
//Snow and cold is for suckers
 
2014-01-06 12:02:52 PM  
DubtodaIll:

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.

Followers love a good leader.
 
2014-01-06 12:03:47 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Mr. Right: Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement.  Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal.  Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated.  Get on with your life.

Those of us who, by necessity, spend a few hours outside every day regardless of weather, find wind chill information extremely useful.  It makes a huge difference how one dresses.  When working outside, it's just as important to not overdress as it is to not underdress.  Never assume that just because you don't find a bit of information useful, nobody does.


Fine, I'll put you in the category of the hiking along the treeline folks.  But you also know, since you're working outside, that you need to be flexible as the weather can often change quickly.   I'm mostly sick of people whining about the wind chill when they're perfectly capable of putting on a scarf and dealing with it.  It's like oooh, a big scary negative number, let's panic!


You're aware that anyone active outdoors checks the wind chill, not just people "hiking above the treeline".  Depending on the wind chill, you might not be able to pour concrete, ride a motorcycle, have exposed pipes (think your outdoors water faucet) freeze open, paint...I can list more stuff,  And just so you know, most people who do work outdoors DO keep various clothing, jackets, sweaters, long johns, etc with them in case the weather changes one way or the other.  Most of us don't look at the wind chill to decide if we need warming layers (we already know we do), but we do look at it as a source of information to give us an idea of what we can or can't be able to do.

For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.  Knowing that, we can instead load up the truck to do something different that day (if possible).  Up North it can be the difference between peeing outside and peeing outside and having your pecker freeze off, which is valuable information for any guy.
 
2014-01-06 12:06:19 PM  

Rapmaster2000: DubtodaIll:

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.

Followers love a good leader.


Are there people who don't love a good leader?  Aside from liars, cheats, and lazy bums that is.
 
2014-01-06 12:06:22 PM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: ultraholland: Temperature goes down, anti-global warming derp goes up. You can't explain that.

I'm going to go with, "What is not knowing the difference between weather and climate, Alex?"


Problem lies with both sides.
It's cold outside, then the anti-global warming people start in. The global warming crowd likes to remind people that weather does not equal climate.
It's warm outside, the global warming crowd points and says, see I told you so. Once again, it's still just weather and not an indicator of a warming climate.

To deny climate change is stupid. Of course climate changes. Just how much we actually effect it, is the real question.
To be on the safe side, lets just say we have an impact, and probably should take some precautions on what we dump into the atmosphere.
It is after all a relatively small planet.
 
2014-01-06 12:11:49 PM  

skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.


Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.
 
2014-01-06 12:11:58 PM  
DubtodaIll:

Are there people who don't love a good leader?  Aside from liars, cheats, and lazy bums that is.

Plenty.  I know it's hard to accept that everyone who doesn't want the same things you want isn't deficient in some way.  I know you're thinking "anyone who doesn't value or want the same things I want does so out of sloth, greed, evil, or stupidity."  There's a "right way" and a "wrong way", correct?  Authoritarians are like that.  You can't help it.

Don't worry, a good hardass will come along soon enough and sweep that mamby-pamby Obammy and his molly-coddling ways out of office.  Maybe in 2016.
 
2014-01-06 12:13:20 PM  

Hack Patooey: Meanwhile, a bit west of Boston, its approaching 50f, and so foggy I can't see the wood shed at the back of my property.


WTF?  I thought Massachusetts was enveloped in the polar vortex along with the rest of the east?
 
2014-01-06 12:14:15 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.

...with a cactus.

/enjoy your brush fires next summer


At least it'll be warm.

What are you and your moose-farking brethren from Canada doing to stay warm?
 
2014-01-06 12:15:20 PM  

flondrix: Hack Patooey: Meanwhile, a bit west of Boston, its approaching 50f, and so foggy I can't see the wood shed at the back of my property.

WTF?  I thought Massachusetts was enveloped in the polar vortex along with the rest of the east?


We apparently got a day and a half respite.  Its back to the teens tomorrow and single digits by wed.  GAH!
 
2014-01-06 12:15:30 PM  

Zeno-25: We had a snownado in Chicago this morning.

[i.imgur.com image 480x722]

The extremely cold air (-20) and gusty winds are clashing with the warm lake temps, creating waterspouts.


I had heard of those, never saw one before.
 
2014-01-06 12:16:02 PM  

flondrix: Hack Patooey: Meanwhile, a bit west of Boston, its approaching 50f, and so foggy I can't see the wood shed at the back of my property.

WTF?  I thought Massachusetts was enveloped in the polar vortex along with the rest of the east?


Oh, it's coming, dude.

The Northeast is going to get deep frozen tomorrow and Wednesday. Wind chills in the -20s and stuff.
 
2014-01-06 12:18:24 PM  
pussies!

 img.fark.net
 
2014-01-06 12:19:44 PM  

DubtodaIll: I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.


You do know that we do not live in a dictatorship right?  Obama is very limited in his powers and almost everything has to be started in the House then to the Senate and then to Obama so if he isn't getting anything done you might want to start looking at the people that are supposed to be passing things so he can sign them into law.

Can you give me an example of being incompetent.
 
2014-01-06 12:20:34 PM  

macadamnut: /can help y'all with that


Shakes tiny fist
 
2014-01-06 12:20:41 PM  

DubtodaIll: snocone: DubtodaIll: Karne: DubtodaIll: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Chance of librul, 90%

Chance of this guy living in a flyover state, wearing over-alls with no shirt, and loading his shotgun while muttering something about the dang scary black president - 96 percent.

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.

Ha Ha, you really expect the 1% to let you vote for a "leader"?
Oh my, that is so cute.

I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.


Never happen.
Competent does not play well with teleprompters or bald faced lying.
 
2014-01-06 12:22:38 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.

You do know that we do not live in a dictatorship right?  Obama is very limited in his powers and almost everything has to be started in the House then to the Senate and then to Obama so if he isn't getting anything done you might want to start looking at the people that are supposed to be passing things so he can sign them into law.

Can you give me an example of being incompetent.


Yea, I saw that slide show too.
Buncha xhit.
The "Power" is held way above Obama's pay grade.
 
2014-01-06 12:23:57 PM  

mainstreet62: UtileDysfunktion: ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.
...with a cactus.
/enjoy your brush fires next summer

At least it'll be warm.
What are you and your moose-farking brethren from Canada doing to stay warm?


Can't speak for the moose-farkers, but I"m staying inside as much as possible while sipping hot buttered vodak.
 
2014-01-06 12:24:06 PM  

Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement. Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal. Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated. Get on with your life.


OK, can anyone hear speak authoritatively about wind chill factors?  As I understand it, "-4F with wind chill" means that an exposed surface at a temperature of 98.6F will lose heat at the same rate it would have in still air at -4F.  Now, under those same wind chill conditions, does an object at 98.6F wrapped in polyester fleece also lose heat at the same rate that an object at 98.6F wrapped in polyester fleece would in still air at -4F?

At the very least, I would expect any body, insulated or not, to lose heat faster with the wind blowing than without it.  Sure, if you are really, really bundled up, a wind chill of -4F is not a problem--but the same can be said for still air at -4F.
 
2014-01-06 12:25:39 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.

You do know that we do not live in a dictatorship right?


That'll always be the dream.  A benevolent dictator to get things done and make people act right.  The problem with benevolent dictators is, you don't know if they're benevolent until you've already made them a dictator.  For every Ataturk, there are 20 Gadaffis.
 
2014-01-06 12:26:34 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Same where i am in FL. oh noes it may get in the 40s tonight


Despite it being a sign of the next Ice Age, I'd love to see either state go below 0 just once in my life, just to see you lot eating your young in panic and burning your elderly to stay warm.
 
2014-01-06 12:26:45 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.

You do know that we do not live in a dictatorship right?  Obama is very limited in his powers and almost everything has to be started in the House then to the Senate and then to Obama so if he isn't getting anything done you might want to start looking at the people that are supposed to be passing things so he can sign them into law.

Can you give me an example of being incompetent.


Sure, our entire current Foreign Policy.  Red Line.
 
2014-01-06 12:29:01 PM  

snocone: Competent does not play well with teleprompters or bald faced lying.


Why is it that teleprompters were OK when Ronald Reagan was using them?  (I read an article about them in Time back then.  The technology was considered  "greatly improved" at that point--as in, they could reflect an image of glowing text off of a piece of plexiglass angled so that the TV audience didn't notice it much.)
 
2014-01-06 12:29:08 PM  

Rapmaster2000: DubtodaIll:

Are there people who don't love a good leader?  Aside from liars, cheats, and lazy bums that is.

Plenty.  I know it's hard to accept that everyone who doesn't want the same things you want isn't deficient in some way.  I know you're thinking "anyone who doesn't value or want the same things I want does so out of sloth, greed, evil, or stupidity."  There's a "right way" and a "wrong way", correct?  Authoritarians are like that.  You can't help it.

Don't worry, a good hardass will come along soon enough and sweep that mamby-pamby Obammy and his molly-coddling ways out of office.  Maybe in 2016.


So there are limitless and infinite ways to attain success?
 
2014-01-06 12:31:08 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Crabs_Can_Polevault: ultraholland: Temperature goes down, anti-global warming derp goes up. You can't explain that.

I'm going to go with, "What is not knowing the difference between weather and climate, Alex?"

Problem lies with both sides.
It's cold outside, then the anti-global warming people start in. The global warming crowd likes to remind people that weather does not equal climate.
It's warm outside, the global warming crowd points and says, see I told you so. Once again, it's still just weather and not an indicator of a warming climate.

To deny climate change is stupid. Of course climate changes. Just how much we actually effect it, is the real question.
To be on the safe side, lets just say we have an impact, and probably should take some precautions on what we dump into the atmosphere.
It is after all a relatively small planet.


The problem is that the climate change 'consensus' that everybody harps on about is only that they agree that temperatures have gone up slightly, and that it is likely due to humans.  This is in no way science.  It is just an observation of measurable conditions.  Science takes observations then develops independently testable theories that produce repeatable results. Take the Newtonian theory of gravity.  It led to equations we can use to repeatedly predict acceleration due to gravity.  But then it all fell apart when it couldn't predict the orbit of Mercury.  So along came Einstein with a better model.

Climate studies have no underlying science.  They have taken a data set and generated a gaggle of 'models' that are mutually contradictory and none of which have been able to predict future conditions with any reliability.  There are no independently testable equations or repeatable experiments.  There are just models and conjecture.  And if you were to point any of this out, you are branded some sort of denier. Even if you concede that temps have gone up and that humans may have had something to do with it.

Climate Change is junk science.
 
2014-01-06 12:32:22 PM  

Rapmaster2000: That'll always be the dream. A benevolent dictator to get things done and make people act right. The problem with benevolent dictators is, you don't know if they're benevolent until you've already made them a dictator. For every Ataturk, there are 20 Gadaffis.


The "you cannot have both liberty and democracy" idiots seriously think that we would be better off with feudalism.  Not metaphorical, but literal in the case of David Friedman.  Of course, the don't see themselves as the serfs in this glorious new feudal society--but somebody would have to be.
 
2014-01-06 12:32:59 PM  
Contrary to popular belief, it gets below freezing on a regular basis in Georgia.  Like... all the farking time.  It just happens that any storms we get come from warmer areas, so it goes from 20 degrees to 33 and rainy, then back down to 20, rather than just getting snow like everywhere else.

I used to have a big problem with my damn car door being frozen shut whenever I had to go work at 3 am.
 
2014-01-06 12:36:14 PM  
It's supposed to get down to 7°F here in NC tonight, with a high of 22°F and low of 9°F tomorrow.  That's a lot colder than it usually gets around here in the winter, but it's not the end of the world.  For once I'm glad I'm not living in Chicago anymore; it's been a long time since I've been there, and I don't know if I could handle -14°F air temps anymore.  I guess if I had to, I'd suck it up and make do, because it happened once or twice while I was living there, but that's just obscenely cold.
 
2014-01-06 12:37:11 PM  

flondrix: snocone: Competent does not play well with teleprompters or bald faced lying.

Why is it that teleprompters were OK when Ronald Reagan was using them?  (I read an article about them in Time back then.  The technology was considered  "greatly improved" at that point--as in, they could reflect an image of glowing text off of a piece of plexiglass angled so that the TV audience didn't notice it much.)


I never have thought derpprompters were OK, EVAR.
Exception for pop entertainers.
Oh, wait, I see, yea, guess the POUSA now qualifies.
 
2014-01-06 12:38:38 PM  

macadamnut: [www.sonofthesouth.net image 401x488]

/can help y'all with that


img849.imageshack.us
 
2014-01-06 12:39:24 PM  

DubtodaIll: Sure, our entire current Foreign Policy. Red Line.


How vague of you.
 
2014-01-06 12:40:52 PM  

Ker_Thwap: skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.

Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.


Yup - wind chill has no effect on inanimate objects. It is the equivalent temperature at which your body will lose its heat.
 
2014-01-06 12:41:15 PM  
It's so cold here that the Indian lady at the drive-thru had ice in her mustache.
 
2014-01-06 12:44:54 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: Sure, our entire current Foreign Policy. Red Line.

How vague of you.


Ok, give me an example of Obama shining excellence?
 
2014-01-06 12:45:02 PM  
moike:

Me too... But I'll have to remember that I spent yesterday under blue skies and sun at the skatepark with the girlfriend.

Not huddled inside trying not to freeze to death.

Yeah, California sucks.

/Born in St. Paul, MN
//Snow and cold is for suckers


Well, that would make me a sucker then (live near the Twin Cities), but I was out walking for a couple hours yesterday under blue skies and sun. When I got home my thermometer read -17F. Exposed skin on my face was nearly lobster red. Probably should have used sunscreen.
 
2014-01-06 12:47:42 PM  

wxboy: thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.

1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.


Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.

I also question what the extra heads up really does for parents. Unless you're really rich, you're not paying for unscheduled childcare. At my office, parents have either: 1) Taken their kids with them to work (stuck them in conference rooms with TVs); 2) Just taken the day off to be home with their kids; or 3) Their parents are watching the kids.

The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.
 
2014-01-06 12:49:20 PM  

Ker_Thwap: skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.

Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.


Specifically, a non-heated object like a roof will cool down (or heat up) to the ambient temperature and no further; wind chill can only speed that process up.    Wind chill numbers are calculated for bodies that are internally heated and attempting to maintain a surface temperature of 98.6 Fahrenheit, and they only tell you an equivalent temperature in terms of rate of heat loss.  If the ambient temperature is 21F with a windchill of -4F, a guy in a T-shirt will shiver, suffer, and shed heat about the same as if the temperature were -4F and the wind were not blowing, until he loses the ability to maintain normal body temperature, and which point his soon-to-be-lifeless body will drop to 21F and no further.
 
2014-01-06 12:50:20 PM  
Montreal this morning: 45°F and rain. Temperature has since dropped to 32. Everything is a slushy, icy, slippery mess.
 
2014-01-06 12:51:47 PM  

Captain Pissgums: NWS says we've warmed-up to -15F here (Sioux Falls, SD), on our way to a forecast high of -10.  Couple more days of this, then we're headed into the 30's (above zero) for this weekend.  It's winter and it's the Northern Plains - it happens.


*waves*

Hello, fellow Sioux Fallsian.

*hand freezes solid*
 
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