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2014-01-06 09:40:50 AM  
Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.
 
2014-01-06 10:01:57 AM  

vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.


If that were the case, there would be no one in Atlanta as they would have died up north before they moved here.
 
2014-01-06 10:10:18 AM  
 
2014-01-06 10:25:39 AM  
i.imgflip.com
 
2014-01-06 10:33:15 AM  
I blame Cehnada.  Forecast low tonight is 4.(That's F not C for those who use the inaccurate C scale).
 
2014-01-06 10:38:48 AM  
Wow!  And where I live they say it might get all the way down into the upper thirties tonight.  Brrrr.
 
2014-01-06 10:40:54 AM  

vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.


We're doing alright, thank you.
 
2014-01-06 10:41:41 AM  
Meanwhile, a bit west of Boston, its approaching 50f, and so foggy I can't see the wood shed at the back of my property.
 
2014-01-06 10:41:46 AM  
Damn global warming.
 
2014-01-06 10:45:02 AM  
-48F in Fargo, ND right now so I'm chuckling at -4F.

Thankfully, I'm headed to Las Vegas today to cover the Consumer Electronics Show. Now it is just a matter of if the airline will keep the scheduled departure or cancel because of the cold.

All flights to and from Chicago have been cancelled, so a little worried.
 
2014-01-06 10:45:34 AM  

AngryDragon: Damn global warming.


Might look at what's currently happening in Australia.
 
2014-01-06 10:45:36 AM  
"Dayum, Earl, wind's blowin' so hard I cain't get this damned cross lit..."
 
2014-01-06 10:45:48 AM  

oldernell: I blame Cehnada.  Forecast low tonight is 4.(That's F not C for those who use the inaccurate C scale).


I use the M scale (Milligrade).  Freezing is still 0 degrees, but the boiling point of water is now 1,000 degrees M.

So a nice summer day is about 250o M, and a cold day is -30o M.

Much more accurate than the WirFahrenGegenEngellandheit scale.
 
2014-01-06 10:45:51 AM  
Meanwhile, in Washington, we still have ski areas that are not yet open.
 
2014-01-06 10:46:54 AM  
Mother Nature is PMS'n like a biatch.

/Looking forward to all the ice tomorrow after today's melt freezes over (RI)
 
2014-01-06 10:47:18 AM  
-40 with the wind chill today here. I'm like WHATEVA, Jack Off nipping at my nose.
 
2014-01-06 10:47:33 AM  
Meanwhile, I'll be fixing a fence later today in the Puget Sound area, where we're looking at a high of 46F with little wind. It's lovely here right now.
 
2014-01-06 10:48:07 AM  
75 degrees here in California. Sunny.
 
2014-01-06 10:48:20 AM  
sweet and clear as moonlight through the pines
 
2014-01-06 10:48:21 AM  
Classes cancelled here, but who still has to show up to work?

/car was angry with me this morning.
 
2014-01-06 10:48:26 AM  

Tom_Slick: vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.

If that were the case, there would be no one in Atlanta as they would have died up north before they moved here.


I moved to Atlanta from Chicago.

So I'm really getting a kick out of this reply.

I moved here to get away from this crap.  At least the roads didn't freeze last night.  6 degrees tonight should cause a lot of busted pipes around town.  A coworker of mine had one break 3 years ago because it was running through the uninsulated part of his attic.  Another example of the outstanding McMansion construction you can get around here.
 
2014-01-06 10:48:53 AM  
I work from home. Thank Jebus.
 
2014-01-06 10:49:44 AM  
I've never experienced this cold before. Honestly. We might actually turn the heating on tonight.
 
2014-01-06 10:49:48 AM  

flak attack: vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.

We're doing alright, thank you.


Ah, yes, the inability to feel the cold is the first sign of the onset of hypothermia.  If I were you, I'd draw a hot bath, take two quick shots of whiskey, and soak for a while.
 
2014-01-06 10:50:04 AM  

dittybopper: oldernell: I blame Cehnada.  Forecast low tonight is 4.(That's F not C for those who use the inaccurate C scale).

I use the M scale (Milligrade).  Freezing is still 0 degrees, but the boiling point of water is now 1,000 degrees M.

So a nice summer day is about 250o M, and a cold day is -30o M.

Much more accurate than the WirFahrenGegenEngellandheit scale.


What's wrong with Kelvin?
 
2014-01-06 10:50:25 AM  
Meh, in Georgia. SE of Columbus... yeah it's cold... so what... It's winter...
It'll be single digits at my house tonight... 3rd time in the 10 years I've lived at this location...
 
2014-01-06 10:50:47 AM  
Poor little delicate flowers.

Since we're talking about the weather, wanna look at the wind? Click here - Link to http://earth.nullschool.net/, I don't think I ever saw this thing on the Geek tab - then click on the word "earth" and select different heights.

Question for Farkers who know this stuff, since I've never had to wrap my head around altitudes expressed in units of pressure before: Is that the jet stream on the 250 hPa view? If 'yes', is it always there?
 
2014-01-06 10:51:47 AM  
I blame Al Gore.
 
2014-01-06 10:53:06 AM  
This one seems pretty bad. Nothing left on grocery store shelves except no-salt tomato paste and vegan bacon.....
 
2014-01-06 10:53:15 AM  

VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.


Chance of librul, 90%
 
2014-01-06 10:55:35 AM  
We had a snownado in Chicago this morning.

i.imgur.com

The extremely cold air (-20) and gusty winds are clashing with the warm lake temps, creating waterspouts.
 
2014-01-06 10:56:05 AM  
If your daytime high is a positive number, count your blessings.
 
2014-01-06 10:56:13 AM  
It's always a bit warmer by the ocean, Atlantans. I suggest you march down there to escape the cold. And if you get chilly, just burn a few towns along the way.
 
2014-01-06 10:56:24 AM  

vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.


Well bless your little heart....
 
2014-01-06 10:57:16 AM  
-27 in north central WI.   Wind chills in -50's.
 
2014-01-06 10:57:20 AM  

VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

 
2014-01-06 10:58:00 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Tom_Slick: vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.

If that were the case, there would be no one in Atlanta as they would have died up north before they moved here.

I moved to Atlanta from Chicago.

So I'm really getting a kick out of this reply.

I moved here to get away from this crap.  At least the roads didn't freeze last night.  6 degrees tonight should cause a lot of busted pipes around town.  A coworker of mine had one break 3 years ago because it was running through the uninsulated part of his attic.  Another example of the outstanding McMansion construction you can get around here.


There are all ready school closings for Tomorrow because of the cold, I wonder what the list will be like in the morning.
 
2014-01-06 10:59:03 AM  

Carousel Beast: What's wrong with Kelvin?


Today, it doesn't go low enough.

/yes, I do know the Kelvin scale.  I'm making a joke.  With my shivering fingers.
 
2014-01-06 10:59:08 AM  
"In Georgia" punchline

made me think of this classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxL3ZNTnCY4
 
2014-01-06 10:59:12 AM  

VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.


Yeah, but you have to live in California.
 
2014-01-06 10:59:50 AM  
Today here in Arkansas we have a high of 21 and a low of 7, current windchill is 1 (all in F).  I'm just upset it didn't snow or ice over so I could pull people out of the ditch and make some quick money.  People will pay a random stranger $50 real quick over the $125 tow truck fee.  Southerners have no concept of "don't hit the brake in ice, just drive slow".  I miss my old place out in the country.  The second it would start icing up I'd set up my front porch to hang out on (on a major hwy so I was normally on the back porch) and just watch the horrible drivers pass by.  I also had a buddy that live 3 miles up the hwy and we'd call each other saying something like "Have you seen a blue car yet, one passed by me a few minutes ago?"  "Nope"  "Well, I'll drive one way you drive the other, we'll meet in the middle and lets make that money.".

No, I don't feel bad charging people to pull them out of a ditch.  You shouldn't drive in the ice if you don't have the right vehicle or the money to cover your ass when you get stuck.

/Has pull people out of the ice with a come-along and a '97 Miata
//I really miss that Miata
///The funnest car I've ever drove.
 
2014-01-06 10:59:59 AM  
-38F currently.  Screw this.

I don't know how you do it, Canada.
 
2014-01-06 11:00:14 AM  
Temperature goes down, anti-global warming derp goes up. You can't explain that.
 
2014-01-06 11:00:59 AM  
static5.businessinsider.com
 
2014-01-06 11:00:59 AM  
Atlantans can keep warm here.

www.bonappetit.com
 
2014-01-06 11:02:01 AM  
I have a friend who moved from upstate NY to central GA this summer (she's originally from Detroit).  Watching her FB posts about the panic over the cold has been amusing (esp. since last week we had a high of -2 here one day..and tomorrow's high is supposed to be 4).
 
2014-01-06 11:02:12 AM  
So you're telling me Carl is in the house today?
 
2014-01-06 11:02:20 AM  

skeevy420: No, I don't feel bad charging people to pull them out of a ditch. You shouldn't drive in the ice if you don't have the right vehicle or the money to cover your ass when you get stuck.


It is morally wrong to allow a fool to keep his money.
 
2014-01-06 11:02:32 AM  
I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement.  Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal.  Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated.  Get on with your life.
 
2014-01-06 11:02:37 AM  

Molavian: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Yeah, but you have to live in California.


O....Kay


I feel like I should be oppressed in someway... I'm not.
 
2014-01-06 11:02:46 AM  

vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.


Check out this classy motherfarker...
 
2014-01-06 11:02:52 AM  
Zeno-25: We had a snownado in Chicago this morning.

and high-pressure tanker cars of death in the foreground.
 
2014-01-06 11:03:45 AM  

Al Gore warned y'all, and you mocked him.

It's Not Fark, It's Global Warming.

 
2014-01-06 11:03:50 AM  

Marquis de Sod: It's always a bit warmer by the ocean, Atlantans. I suggest you march down there to escape the cold. And if you get chilly, just burn a few towns along the way.


As a New Orleans native, I sort of wish we had their current temperatures instead of the current ones in Atlanta. But I do not miss the New Orleans summers.
 
2014-01-06 11:04:06 AM  
Level 3 snow emergency in Toledo today, wind chills approaching -35 to -45 tonight. I actually got an adult snow day!
 
2014-01-06 11:04:10 AM  
 -16°F air temp & windchill of  -41°F  here right now. So quit your biatchin, Georgia
 
2014-01-06 11:04:23 AM  

vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.


Well aren't you just the most pleasant brand of bitter dickweed available.
 
2014-01-06 11:05:31 AM  

ultraholland: Temperature goes down, anti-global warming derp goes up. You can't explain that.


I'm going to go with, "What is not knowing the difference between weather and climate, Alex?"
 
2014-01-06 11:05:48 AM  

Molavian: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Yeah, but you haveget to live in California.


Fixed...
 
2014-01-06 11:05:50 AM  

Tom_Slick: Rapmaster2000: Tom_Slick: vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.

If that were the case, there would be no one in Atlanta as they would have died up north before they moved here.

I moved to Atlanta from Chicago.

So I'm really getting a kick out of this reply.

I moved here to get away from this crap.  At least the roads didn't freeze last night.  6 degrees tonight should cause a lot of busted pipes around town.  A coworker of mine had one break 3 years ago because it was running through the uninsulated part of his attic.  Another example of the outstanding McMansion construction you can get around here.

There are all ready school closings for Tomorrow because of the cold, I wonder what the list will be like in the morning.


I'm over in Alabama, where schools are also closed today and tomorrow; my understanding is that it was done due to fears about ice because it was supposed to rain throughout the Southeast last night.

I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.
 
2014-01-06 11:09:23 AM  

Trillian Astra: Marquis de Sod: It's always a bit warmer by the ocean, Atlantans. I suggest you march down there to escape the cold. And if you get chilly, just burn a few towns along the way.

As a New Orleans native, I sort of wish we had their current temperatures instead of the current ones in Atlanta. But I do not miss the New Orleans summers.


Yes Dearie,

But in New Orleans there was always something good to eat or do to keep your mind off the heat.
 
2014-01-06 11:10:08 AM  
I'm pretty sure I'll never get a "snow day" but I do get to operate under the idea that I shouldn't try to get myself killed attempting to get to work.

Also 60 degrees in the lab today, I'm not certain the heat is working properly, but this area is also poorly insulated.

/-4 F outside as well right now.
//Might have something to do with it
///Not much to do today, again eagerly anticipating lunch
 
2014-01-06 11:10:20 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement.  Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal.  Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated.  Get on with your life.


You must be from someplace where it doesn't get too cold.
 
2014-01-06 11:11:27 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement.  Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal.  Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated.  Get on with your life.


Those of us who, by necessity, spend a few hours outside every day regardless of weather, find wind chill information extremely useful.  It makes a huge difference how one dresses.  When working outside, it's just as important to not overdress as it is to not underdress.  Never assume that just because you don't find a bit of information useful, nobody does.
 
2014-01-06 11:11:47 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement.


It _is_ useful. At least in the north, where wind chill can easily mean the difference between brisk-but-comfortable and danger-to-exposed-skin-if-at-all-prolonged.

Those temps wouldn't be a big deal here - we know and respect the cold - but Georgia residents wouldn't have much experience with it.
 
2014-01-06 11:13:20 AM  

blatz514: /car was angry with me this morning.


Mine wouldn't start, have to go and get a new battery :(
 
2014-01-06 11:14:09 AM  

Port1080: I have a friend who moved from upstate NY to central GA this summer (she's originally from Detroit).  Watching her FB posts about the panic over the cold has been amusing (esp. since last week we had a high of -2 here one day..and tomorrow's high is supposed to be 4).


In central and south Georgia these temps are worry some as many houses were built without central heat.
 
2014-01-06 11:14:29 AM  

Zeno-25: We had a snownado in Chicago this morning.

[i.imgur.com image 480x722]

The extremely cold air (-20) and gusty winds are clashing with the warm lake temps, creating waterspouts.


There's now an itsy bitsy spider warning in effect until 3 pm.
 
2014-01-06 11:15:15 AM  

EvilVanMan: I'm pretty sure I'll never get a "snow day" but I do get to operate under the idea that I shouldn't try to get myself killed attempting to get to work.

Also 60 degrees in the lab today, I'm not certain the heat is working properly, but this area is also poorly insulated.

/-4 F outside as well right now.
//Might have something to do with it
///Not much to do today, again eagerly anticipating lunch


Until I saw the -4 comment I thought you may have been a co-worker. Actually trying to thaw some pipes as we speak.
 
2014-01-06 11:16:57 AM  

theflatline: Trillian Astra: Marquis de Sod: It's always a bit warmer by the ocean, Atlantans. I suggest you march down there to escape the cold. And if you get chilly, just burn a few towns along the way.

As a New Orleans native, I sort of wish we had their current temperatures instead of the current ones in Atlanta. But I do not miss the New Orleans summers.

Yes Dearie,

But in New Orleans there was always something good to eat or do to keep your mind off the heat.


Why do so many people from New Orleans live in Atlanta anyway?  They certainly don't come here for the Southern charm.

I'm not complaining.  We have many more cajun/creole options than we used to.
 
2014-01-06 11:18:52 AM  

Stone Meadow: Molavian: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Yeah, but you haveget to live in California.

Fixed...


Like you "get" herpes, maybe.
 
2014-01-06 11:19:38 AM  
We Minnesotan Farkers send our most heart felt sympathies to our Georgian brethren and would trade places with them if we could...in a heart beat. I guess that's why they call us Minnesota nice.
 
2014-01-06 11:19:51 AM  

TNel: blatz514: /car was angry with me this morning.

Mine wouldn't start, have to go and get a new battery :(


Dang.  You know it's cold when you cringe at every bump you hit in the road.

"Did my bumper just fall off?"
 
2014-01-06 11:20:45 AM  

Rapmaster2000: theflatline: Trillian Astra: Marquis de Sod: It's always a bit warmer by the ocean, Atlantans. I suggest you march down there to escape the cold. And if you get chilly, just burn a few towns along the way.

As a New Orleans native, I sort of wish we had their current temperatures instead of the current ones in Atlanta. But I do not miss the New Orleans summers.

Yes Dearie,

But in New Orleans there was always something good to eat or do to keep your mind off the heat.

Why do so many people from New Orleans live in Atlanta anyway?  They certainly don't come here for the Southern charm.

I'm not complaining.  We have many more cajun/creole options than we used to.


Home offices for southern companies and people with loot who moved their after Katrina.
 
2014-01-06 11:21:12 AM  

DubtodaIll: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Chance of librul, 90%


Chance of this guy living in a flyover state, wearing over-alls with no shirt, and loading his shotgun while muttering something about the dang scary black president - 96 percent.
 
2014-01-06 11:22:13 AM  
In response to that wonderful question "Is it hot enough fer you?" I've gotten when in the Deep South in the summer I must ask.

Is it cold enough for you?
 
2014-01-06 11:22:19 AM  

Infinity370: AngryDragon: Damn global warming.

Might look at what's currently happening in Australia.


 all politics are local :)
 
2014-01-06 11:24:00 AM  
NWS says we've warmed-up to -15F here (Sioux Falls, SD), on our way to a forecast high of -10.  Couple more days of this, then we're headed into the 30's (above zero) for this weekend.  It's winter and it's the Northern Plains - it happens.
 
2014-01-06 11:24:42 AM  

Hobodeluxe: Infinity370: AngryDragon: Damn global warming.

Might look at what's currently happening in Australia.


Are there problems with the ski slopes around the Alps?
 
2014-01-06 11:25:01 AM  
it's 9 degrees here in TN, but without the windchill it's really not that bad, went out and got the newspaper in a t-shirt

dunno, anything below 32F kinda starts all feeling the same, the windchill and being wet tho... ugh, that's way worse than the raw temperature
 
2014-01-06 11:26:08 AM  

SewerSquirrels: We Minnesotan Farkers send our most heart felt sympathies to our Georgian brethren and would trade places with them if we could...in a heart beat. I guess that's why they call us Minnesota nice.


Plus 25 would be nice, Minneapolis is 50 degrees cooler than that this morning.
 
2014-01-06 11:27:07 AM  

Mudd's woman: Hobodeluxe: Infinity370: AngryDragon: Damn global warming.

Might look at what's currently happening in Australia.

Are there problems with the ski slopes around the Alps?


The Alps are in Spain, dumbass.  That's where tacos come from.
 
2014-01-06 11:27:38 AM  
So how windy is it supposed to be down there anyways? Are you folks having a hurricane or something?
static.businessinsider.com
 
2014-01-06 11:28:35 AM  

Tom_Slick: Port1080: I have a friend who moved from upstate NY to central GA this summer (she's originally from Detroit).  Watching her FB posts about the panic over the cold has been amusing (esp. since last week we had a high of -2 here one day..and tomorrow's high is supposed to be 4).

In central and south Georgia these temps are worry some as many houses were built without central heat.


Oddly enough, my house doesn't have central heat - due to a quirk of history our village gets a really cheap electricity allotment from Niagara Falls, so we have electric baseboard heat (with each baseboard unit having its own thermostat dial).  We also have a wood burning fireplace (with a glass door, so while it's not terribly efficient, at least it heats the house instead of just sucking cold air in from outside and sending all the warm air up the chimney) and a pellet stove.  And single pane old windows original to the (1870s construction) house.  They're gorgeous windows, but oof...cold.
 
2014-01-06 11:30:40 AM  
It's 11 degrees here right now but with the windshield factory it feels like -8
 
2014-01-06 11:32:08 AM  

hitmanric: Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement.  Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal.  Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated.  Get on with your life.

You must be from someplace where it doesn't get too cold.


The opposite actually.  It was -14 two nights ago.  I didn't give a squat about the wind chill because I own clothes.
 
2014-01-06 11:32:44 AM  
It was in the low 40s this morning on the way in to the office, with pretty strong gusts of wind. Supposed to get down to a balmy 7 tonight, with wind chills around -15. High of 18 fun-loving degrees tomorrow.
 
2014-01-06 11:33:20 AM  
I'd love to be down there for that. Being from MN, I could become a spiritual guide of sorts, helping them through these difficult times, dealing with God's punishment for...being rednecks or something. I could be ruler of my own county by the weekend if the weather holds.

/cold should slow down the walkers, so there's that
 
2014-01-06 11:33:52 AM  

blatz514: Classes cancelled here, but who still has to show up to work?

/car was angry with me this morning.


I found out work was cancelled... after I got there, and the maintenance guy (who was busy plowing the 16" of snow off the parking lots) asked "What are you doing here? They called off work!".  And I walked to work. A mile. Through the snowdrifts. And in the already-below-zero wind chills. Thank god I got a ride home, or I'd probably be in the hospital right now.
 
2014-01-06 11:34:31 AM  

VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.


Fark you.
 
2014-01-06 11:35:42 AM  

Karne: DubtodaIll: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Chance of librul, 90%

Chance of this guy living in a flyover state, wearing over-alls with no shirt, and loading his shotgun while muttering something about the dang scary black president - 96 percent.


Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.
 
2014-01-06 11:37:04 AM  

dryknife: It's 11 degrees here right now but with the windshield factory it feels like -8


Windshield factory. Lol.
 
2014-01-06 11:39:55 AM  
I double dog dare ya,,,

This crap used to be fun, 45 years ago,,
Winter camping in the Boundry Waters used to be a sweet challenge. Snowshoe for 5-6 hours to a area remote enough for sound and light to become only your own and Mama N. Much more luxurious than summer when back pack limits your amenities. A plastic minibogan tows all the luxuries you can use. Back in '98, I was in Two Harbors for the -62 morning. 25 mikes away record set at -65, in Isabella. Word: don't even try a vehicle, you only break off pieces.
But, since the heart bypass, anything below freezing hurts and below 0 is a real pain.
Maybe after the stem cells,,,
 
2014-01-06 11:41:35 AM  

DubtodaIll: Karne: DubtodaIll: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Chance of librul, 90%

Chance of this guy living in a flyover state, wearing over-alls with no shirt, and loading his shotgun while muttering something about the dang scary black president - 96 percent.

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.


Ha Ha, you really expect the 1% to let you vote for a "leader"?
Oh my, that is so cute.
 
2014-01-06 11:41:52 AM  

ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.


...with a cactus.

/enjoy your brush fires next summer
 
2014-01-06 11:42:18 AM  

blatz514: TNel: blatz514: /car was angry with me this morning.

Mine wouldn't start, have to go and get a new battery :(

Dang.  You know it's cold when you cringe at every bump you hit in the road.

"Did my bumper just fall off?"


Heh.

I used to live up in the Adirondacks.  One year, just around Christmas time, we were packing the car for a trip to Maine.  It was about -34 Fahrenheit.  One of the hinges holding the rear hatch on the station wagon snapped in the cold.  My father had to wire the hatch on with soft iron trapping wire so that we could visit relatives.

/Cheap pot metal hinges on an AMC Sportabout wagon.
 
2014-01-06 11:43:05 AM  

SewerSquirrels: So how windy is it supposed to be down there anyways? Are you folks having a hurricane or something?
[static.businessinsider.com image 615x403]


I'm in North Alabama and the high is 14F Since I woke up it's dropped to 12F. NWS m says the wind chill will 0F to -20F today. Not complaining just saying we only get this cold once or twice every ten years or so.
 
2014-01-06 11:43:18 AM  

thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.


It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.
 
2014-01-06 11:43:55 AM  

DubtodaIll: And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't.


Not to make this a politics thread, but Obama is a GREAT leader, it's just that half of the government decided not to agree with him on anything, long before he was elected.
 
2014-01-06 11:44:31 AM  

Mr. Right: Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement.  Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal.  Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated.  Get on with your life.

Those of us who, by necessity, spend a few hours outside every day regardless of weather, find wind chill information extremely useful.  It makes a huge difference how one dresses.  When working outside, it's just as important to not overdress as it is to not underdress.  Never assume that just because you don't find a bit of information useful, nobody does.



Fine, I'll put you in the category of the hiking along the treeline folks.  But you also know, since you're working outside, that you need to be flexible as the weather can often change quickly.   I'm mostly sick of people whining about the wind chill when they're perfectly capable of putting on a scarf and dealing with it.  It's like oooh, a big scary negative number, let's panic!
 
2014-01-06 11:45:26 AM  

snocone: DubtodaIll: Karne: DubtodaIll: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Chance of librul, 90%

Chance of this guy living in a flyover state, wearing over-alls with no shirt, and loading his shotgun while muttering something about the dang scary black president - 96 percent.

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.

Ha Ha, you really expect the 1% to let you vote for a "leader"?
Oh my, that is so cute.


I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.
 
2014-01-06 11:48:25 AM  
Hebalo: DubtodaIll: And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't.

Not to make this a politics thread, but Obama is a GREAT DEAR leader, it's just that half of the government decided not to agree with him on anything, long before he was elected.

FTFY
 
2014-01-06 11:49:57 AM  
Infinity370


AngryDragon: Damn global warming.

Might look at what's currently happening in Australia.
Might want to look at the global warming conspiracy boat that's stuck in 30 ft of ice -in the summer of the year g.w. nutbags predicted no more sea ice -and that snow would be a distant memory children would read about only in story books-.
 
2014-01-06 11:51:08 AM  
www.sonofthesouth.net

/can help y'all with that
 
2014-01-06 11:52:29 AM  
Stuck at home in Mid-Michigan after 14 inches of snow fell. Getting a kick....

i.imgur.com

Temps plunging to -5 tomorrow.
 
2014-01-06 11:54:01 AM  

moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.


Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.
 
2014-01-06 11:54:57 AM  
The key to survival is making sure no skin whatsoever is exposed. I would go with the balaclava in these situations if I did not have to worry about getting shot by heroic cops. I recommend wrapping a warm wool scarf multiple times around the neck/face until you look like a mummy. The next step is the stocking cap. It is really important to get an extra long stocking cap. Pull it down over your eyes as sight is very overrated when the windchill is -40 like it is here in Chicago today. Finally, buy a handwarmer, activate it, and stick it down the front of your pants (although make sure it's not down there too long). This will buy you about 20 minutes outside.
 
2014-01-06 11:56:17 AM  
104 posts in and no Squidbillies? Fark be slippin'.

/ on mobile, can't do it myself
// Dan Halen be controlling the weather in Dougal County
 
2014-01-06 11:56:38 AM  

VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.


Same where i am in FL. oh noes it may get in the 40s tonight
 
2014-01-06 11:56:48 AM  
High today of 16 in Memphis but whatevs
 
2014-01-06 12:00:52 PM  

thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.


1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.
 
2014-01-06 12:01:48 PM  

VivianVivisect: Molavian: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Yeah, but you have to live in California.

O....Kay

I feel like I should be oppressed in someway... I'm not.


Me too... But I'll have to remember that I spent yesterday under blue skies and sun at the skatepark with the girlfriend.

Not huddled inside trying not to freeze to death.

Yeah, California sucks.

/Born in St. Paul, MN
//Snow and cold is for suckers
 
2014-01-06 12:02:52 PM  
DubtodaIll:

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.

Followers love a good leader.
 
2014-01-06 12:03:47 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Mr. Right: Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement.  Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal.  Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated.  Get on with your life.

Those of us who, by necessity, spend a few hours outside every day regardless of weather, find wind chill information extremely useful.  It makes a huge difference how one dresses.  When working outside, it's just as important to not overdress as it is to not underdress.  Never assume that just because you don't find a bit of information useful, nobody does.


Fine, I'll put you in the category of the hiking along the treeline folks.  But you also know, since you're working outside, that you need to be flexible as the weather can often change quickly.   I'm mostly sick of people whining about the wind chill when they're perfectly capable of putting on a scarf and dealing with it.  It's like oooh, a big scary negative number, let's panic!


You're aware that anyone active outdoors checks the wind chill, not just people "hiking above the treeline".  Depending on the wind chill, you might not be able to pour concrete, ride a motorcycle, have exposed pipes (think your outdoors water faucet) freeze open, paint...I can list more stuff,  And just so you know, most people who do work outdoors DO keep various clothing, jackets, sweaters, long johns, etc with them in case the weather changes one way or the other.  Most of us don't look at the wind chill to decide if we need warming layers (we already know we do), but we do look at it as a source of information to give us an idea of what we can or can't be able to do.

For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.  Knowing that, we can instead load up the truck to do something different that day (if possible).  Up North it can be the difference between peeing outside and peeing outside and having your pecker freeze off, which is valuable information for any guy.
 
2014-01-06 12:06:19 PM  

Rapmaster2000: DubtodaIll:

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.

Followers love a good leader.


Are there people who don't love a good leader?  Aside from liars, cheats, and lazy bums that is.
 
2014-01-06 12:06:22 PM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: ultraholland: Temperature goes down, anti-global warming derp goes up. You can't explain that.

I'm going to go with, "What is not knowing the difference between weather and climate, Alex?"


Problem lies with both sides.
It's cold outside, then the anti-global warming people start in. The global warming crowd likes to remind people that weather does not equal climate.
It's warm outside, the global warming crowd points and says, see I told you so. Once again, it's still just weather and not an indicator of a warming climate.

To deny climate change is stupid. Of course climate changes. Just how much we actually effect it, is the real question.
To be on the safe side, lets just say we have an impact, and probably should take some precautions on what we dump into the atmosphere.
It is after all a relatively small planet.
 
2014-01-06 12:11:49 PM  

skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.


Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.
 
2014-01-06 12:11:58 PM  
DubtodaIll:

Are there people who don't love a good leader?  Aside from liars, cheats, and lazy bums that is.

Plenty.  I know it's hard to accept that everyone who doesn't want the same things you want isn't deficient in some way.  I know you're thinking "anyone who doesn't value or want the same things I want does so out of sloth, greed, evil, or stupidity."  There's a "right way" and a "wrong way", correct?  Authoritarians are like that.  You can't help it.

Don't worry, a good hardass will come along soon enough and sweep that mamby-pamby Obammy and his molly-coddling ways out of office.  Maybe in 2016.
 
2014-01-06 12:13:20 PM  

Hack Patooey: Meanwhile, a bit west of Boston, its approaching 50f, and so foggy I can't see the wood shed at the back of my property.


WTF?  I thought Massachusetts was enveloped in the polar vortex along with the rest of the east?
 
2014-01-06 12:14:15 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.

...with a cactus.

/enjoy your brush fires next summer


At least it'll be warm.

What are you and your moose-farking brethren from Canada doing to stay warm?
 
2014-01-06 12:15:20 PM  

flondrix: Hack Patooey: Meanwhile, a bit west of Boston, its approaching 50f, and so foggy I can't see the wood shed at the back of my property.

WTF?  I thought Massachusetts was enveloped in the polar vortex along with the rest of the east?


We apparently got a day and a half respite.  Its back to the teens tomorrow and single digits by wed.  GAH!
 
2014-01-06 12:15:30 PM  

Zeno-25: We had a snownado in Chicago this morning.

[i.imgur.com image 480x722]

The extremely cold air (-20) and gusty winds are clashing with the warm lake temps, creating waterspouts.


I had heard of those, never saw one before.
 
2014-01-06 12:16:02 PM  

flondrix: Hack Patooey: Meanwhile, a bit west of Boston, its approaching 50f, and so foggy I can't see the wood shed at the back of my property.

WTF?  I thought Massachusetts was enveloped in the polar vortex along with the rest of the east?


Oh, it's coming, dude.

The Northeast is going to get deep frozen tomorrow and Wednesday. Wind chills in the -20s and stuff.
 
2014-01-06 12:18:24 PM  
pussies!

 img.fark.net
 
2014-01-06 12:19:44 PM  

DubtodaIll: I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.


You do know that we do not live in a dictatorship right?  Obama is very limited in his powers and almost everything has to be started in the House then to the Senate and then to Obama so if he isn't getting anything done you might want to start looking at the people that are supposed to be passing things so he can sign them into law.

Can you give me an example of being incompetent.
 
2014-01-06 12:20:34 PM  

macadamnut: /can help y'all with that


Shakes tiny fist
 
2014-01-06 12:20:41 PM  

DubtodaIll: snocone: DubtodaIll: Karne: DubtodaIll: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Chance of librul, 90%

Chance of this guy living in a flyover state, wearing over-alls with no shirt, and loading his shotgun while muttering something about the dang scary black president - 96 percent.

Well no, I live on the coast in GA.  And I don't mind what color the POTUS is as long as he's good leader, which Obama isn't. But hey, keep those prejudices coming, viva la 'merica and stuff.

Ha Ha, you really expect the 1% to let you vote for a "leader"?
Oh my, that is so cute.

I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.


Never happen.
Competent does not play well with teleprompters or bald faced lying.
 
2014-01-06 12:22:38 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.

You do know that we do not live in a dictatorship right?  Obama is very limited in his powers and almost everything has to be started in the House then to the Senate and then to Obama so if he isn't getting anything done you might want to start looking at the people that are supposed to be passing things so he can sign them into law.

Can you give me an example of being incompetent.


Yea, I saw that slide show too.
Buncha xhit.
The "Power" is held way above Obama's pay grade.
 
2014-01-06 12:23:57 PM  

mainstreet62: UtileDysfunktion: ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.
...with a cactus.
/enjoy your brush fires next summer

At least it'll be warm.
What are you and your moose-farking brethren from Canada doing to stay warm?


Can't speak for the moose-farkers, but I"m staying inside as much as possible while sipping hot buttered vodak.
 
2014-01-06 12:24:06 PM  

Ker_Thwap: I'm sick of hearing about wind chill as if it's a useful measurement. Unless you're hiking above the treeline in a t-shirt it's really not a big deal. Put on a freaking jacket with a hood, wind chill mitigated. Get on with your life.


OK, can anyone hear speak authoritatively about wind chill factors?  As I understand it, "-4F with wind chill" means that an exposed surface at a temperature of 98.6F will lose heat at the same rate it would have in still air at -4F.  Now, under those same wind chill conditions, does an object at 98.6F wrapped in polyester fleece also lose heat at the same rate that an object at 98.6F wrapped in polyester fleece would in still air at -4F?

At the very least, I would expect any body, insulated or not, to lose heat faster with the wind blowing than without it.  Sure, if you are really, really bundled up, a wind chill of -4F is not a problem--but the same can be said for still air at -4F.
 
2014-01-06 12:25:39 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.

You do know that we do not live in a dictatorship right?


That'll always be the dream.  A benevolent dictator to get things done and make people act right.  The problem with benevolent dictators is, you don't know if they're benevolent until you've already made them a dictator.  For every Ataturk, there are 20 Gadaffis.
 
2014-01-06 12:26:34 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Same where i am in FL. oh noes it may get in the 40s tonight


Despite it being a sign of the next Ice Age, I'd love to see either state go below 0 just once in my life, just to see you lot eating your young in panic and burning your elderly to stay warm.
 
2014-01-06 12:26:45 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: I didn't say I really had any say on who gets the be the boss, but it would be nice if they put someone competent in the office.

You do know that we do not live in a dictatorship right?  Obama is very limited in his powers and almost everything has to be started in the House then to the Senate and then to Obama so if he isn't getting anything done you might want to start looking at the people that are supposed to be passing things so he can sign them into law.

Can you give me an example of being incompetent.


Sure, our entire current Foreign Policy.  Red Line.
 
2014-01-06 12:29:01 PM  

snocone: Competent does not play well with teleprompters or bald faced lying.


Why is it that teleprompters were OK when Ronald Reagan was using them?  (I read an article about them in Time back then.  The technology was considered  "greatly improved" at that point--as in, they could reflect an image of glowing text off of a piece of plexiglass angled so that the TV audience didn't notice it much.)
 
2014-01-06 12:29:08 PM  

Rapmaster2000: DubtodaIll:

Are there people who don't love a good leader?  Aside from liars, cheats, and lazy bums that is.

Plenty.  I know it's hard to accept that everyone who doesn't want the same things you want isn't deficient in some way.  I know you're thinking "anyone who doesn't value or want the same things I want does so out of sloth, greed, evil, or stupidity."  There's a "right way" and a "wrong way", correct?  Authoritarians are like that.  You can't help it.

Don't worry, a good hardass will come along soon enough and sweep that mamby-pamby Obammy and his molly-coddling ways out of office.  Maybe in 2016.


So there are limitless and infinite ways to attain success?
 
2014-01-06 12:31:08 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Crabs_Can_Polevault: ultraholland: Temperature goes down, anti-global warming derp goes up. You can't explain that.

I'm going to go with, "What is not knowing the difference between weather and climate, Alex?"

Problem lies with both sides.
It's cold outside, then the anti-global warming people start in. The global warming crowd likes to remind people that weather does not equal climate.
It's warm outside, the global warming crowd points and says, see I told you so. Once again, it's still just weather and not an indicator of a warming climate.

To deny climate change is stupid. Of course climate changes. Just how much we actually effect it, is the real question.
To be on the safe side, lets just say we have an impact, and probably should take some precautions on what we dump into the atmosphere.
It is after all a relatively small planet.


The problem is that the climate change 'consensus' that everybody harps on about is only that they agree that temperatures have gone up slightly, and that it is likely due to humans.  This is in no way science.  It is just an observation of measurable conditions.  Science takes observations then develops independently testable theories that produce repeatable results. Take the Newtonian theory of gravity.  It led to equations we can use to repeatedly predict acceleration due to gravity.  But then it all fell apart when it couldn't predict the orbit of Mercury.  So along came Einstein with a better model.

Climate studies have no underlying science.  They have taken a data set and generated a gaggle of 'models' that are mutually contradictory and none of which have been able to predict future conditions with any reliability.  There are no independently testable equations or repeatable experiments.  There are just models and conjecture.  And if you were to point any of this out, you are branded some sort of denier. Even if you concede that temps have gone up and that humans may have had something to do with it.

Climate Change is junk science.
 
2014-01-06 12:32:22 PM  

Rapmaster2000: That'll always be the dream. A benevolent dictator to get things done and make people act right. The problem with benevolent dictators is, you don't know if they're benevolent until you've already made them a dictator. For every Ataturk, there are 20 Gadaffis.


The "you cannot have both liberty and democracy" idiots seriously think that we would be better off with feudalism.  Not metaphorical, but literal in the case of David Friedman.  Of course, the don't see themselves as the serfs in this glorious new feudal society--but somebody would have to be.
 
2014-01-06 12:32:59 PM  
Contrary to popular belief, it gets below freezing on a regular basis in Georgia.  Like... all the farking time.  It just happens that any storms we get come from warmer areas, so it goes from 20 degrees to 33 and rainy, then back down to 20, rather than just getting snow like everywhere else.

I used to have a big problem with my damn car door being frozen shut whenever I had to go work at 3 am.
 
2014-01-06 12:36:14 PM  
It's supposed to get down to 7°F here in NC tonight, with a high of 22°F and low of 9°F tomorrow.  That's a lot colder than it usually gets around here in the winter, but it's not the end of the world.  For once I'm glad I'm not living in Chicago anymore; it's been a long time since I've been there, and I don't know if I could handle -14°F air temps anymore.  I guess if I had to, I'd suck it up and make do, because it happened once or twice while I was living there, but that's just obscenely cold.
 
2014-01-06 12:37:11 PM  

flondrix: snocone: Competent does not play well with teleprompters or bald faced lying.

Why is it that teleprompters were OK when Ronald Reagan was using them?  (I read an article about them in Time back then.  The technology was considered  "greatly improved" at that point--as in, they could reflect an image of glowing text off of a piece of plexiglass angled so that the TV audience didn't notice it much.)


I never have thought derpprompters were OK, EVAR.
Exception for pop entertainers.
Oh, wait, I see, yea, guess the POUSA now qualifies.
 
2014-01-06 12:38:38 PM  

macadamnut: [www.sonofthesouth.net image 401x488]

/can help y'all with that


img849.imageshack.us
 
2014-01-06 12:39:24 PM  

DubtodaIll: Sure, our entire current Foreign Policy. Red Line.


How vague of you.
 
2014-01-06 12:40:52 PM  

Ker_Thwap: skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.

Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.


Yup - wind chill has no effect on inanimate objects. It is the equivalent temperature at which your body will lose its heat.
 
2014-01-06 12:41:15 PM  
It's so cold here that the Indian lady at the drive-thru had ice in her mustache.
 
2014-01-06 12:44:54 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: Sure, our entire current Foreign Policy. Red Line.

How vague of you.


Ok, give me an example of Obama shining excellence?
 
2014-01-06 12:45:02 PM  
moike:

Me too... But I'll have to remember that I spent yesterday under blue skies and sun at the skatepark with the girlfriend.

Not huddled inside trying not to freeze to death.

Yeah, California sucks.

/Born in St. Paul, MN
//Snow and cold is for suckers


Well, that would make me a sucker then (live near the Twin Cities), but I was out walking for a couple hours yesterday under blue skies and sun. When I got home my thermometer read -17F. Exposed skin on my face was nearly lobster red. Probably should have used sunscreen.
 
2014-01-06 12:47:42 PM  

wxboy: thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.

1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.


Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.

I also question what the extra heads up really does for parents. Unless you're really rich, you're not paying for unscheduled childcare. At my office, parents have either: 1) Taken their kids with them to work (stuck them in conference rooms with TVs); 2) Just taken the day off to be home with their kids; or 3) Their parents are watching the kids.

The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.
 
2014-01-06 12:49:20 PM  

Ker_Thwap: skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.

Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.


Specifically, a non-heated object like a roof will cool down (or heat up) to the ambient temperature and no further; wind chill can only speed that process up.    Wind chill numbers are calculated for bodies that are internally heated and attempting to maintain a surface temperature of 98.6 Fahrenheit, and they only tell you an equivalent temperature in terms of rate of heat loss.  If the ambient temperature is 21F with a windchill of -4F, a guy in a T-shirt will shiver, suffer, and shed heat about the same as if the temperature were -4F and the wind were not blowing, until he loses the ability to maintain normal body temperature, and which point his soon-to-be-lifeless body will drop to 21F and no further.
 
2014-01-06 12:50:20 PM  
Montreal this morning: 45°F and rain. Temperature has since dropped to 32. Everything is a slushy, icy, slippery mess.
 
2014-01-06 12:51:47 PM  

Captain Pissgums: NWS says we've warmed-up to -15F here (Sioux Falls, SD), on our way to a forecast high of -10.  Couple more days of this, then we're headed into the 30's (above zero) for this weekend.  It's winter and it's the Northern Plains - it happens.


*waves*

Hello, fellow Sioux Fallsian.

*hand freezes solid*
 
2014-01-06 12:56:13 PM  

DubtodaIll: TNel: DubtodaIll: Sure, our entire current Foreign Policy. Red Line.

How vague of you.

Ok, give me an example of Obama shining excellence?


I never said that, he's a fine leader.  He hasn't started any wars, healthcare is finally starting to turn around in this country, and the economy is recovering.  All in all I think we are in a better place than we were at before he came in so he gets a passing grade.  Dubya started multiple wars and tanked the economy so he failed.

The fact that you can't point to one specific thing is enough to show that you have an axe to grind because your team lost an election.  Politics should not be like a sports team; just because you lost doesn't mean you can block legistration until you have another go at trying to win.
 
2014-01-06 12:56:48 PM  
Sunny and 78 here in South FL.

Eat it, suckers.
 
2014-01-06 12:57:27 PM  

thornhill: Tom_Slick: Rapmaster2000: Tom_Slick: vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.

If that were the case, there would be no one in Atlanta as they would have died up north before they moved here.

I moved to Atlanta from Chicago.

So I'm really getting a kick out of this reply.

I moved here to get away from this crap.  At least the roads didn't freeze last night.  6 degrees tonight should cause a lot of busted pipes around town.  A coworker of mine had one break 3 years ago because it was running through the uninsulated part of his attic.  Another example of the outstanding McMansion construction you can get around here.

There are all ready school closings for Tomorrow because of the cold, I wonder what the list will be like in the morning.

I'm over in Alabama, where schools are also closed today and tomorrow; my understanding is that it was done due to fears about ice because it was supposed to rain throughout the Southeast last night.

I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.


Cause it's way easier to say 'my bad' if the ice doesn't happen than it is to close stuff down at the last minute.
 
2014-01-06 12:59:06 PM  

bulldg4life: I work from home. Thank Jebus.


I work in the office, where I don't pay the heating bill.
 
2014-01-06 01:00:23 PM  

AngryDragon: Damn global warming.


If you picked number 9 in the "How many posts until some troll makes a stupid global warming comment in a weather thread?" pool, step up and claim your free internets.
 
2014-01-06 01:01:20 PM  

Zeno-25: We had a snownado in Chicago this morning.

[i.imgur.com image 480x722]

The extremely cold air (-20) and gusty winds are clashing with the warm lake temps, creating waterspouts.



That is actually pretty cool, just as long as they are not causing damages..
 
2014-01-06 01:03:49 PM  

thornhill: wxboy: thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.

1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.

Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.

I also question what the extra heads up really does for parents. Unless you're really rich, you're not paying for unscheduled childcare. At my office, parents have either: 1) Taken their kids with them to work (stuck them in conference rooms with TVs); 2) Just taken the day off to be home with their kids; or 3) Their parents are watching the kids.

The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.


If you have before and after school care they will watch them when school is cancelled and not charge you extra.
 
2014-01-06 01:04:42 PM  

macdaddy357: If your daytime high is a positive number, count your blessings.


Or pat yourself on the back for making at least one smart life choice
 
2014-01-06 01:04:55 PM  
SewerSquirrels:
Well, that would make me a sucker then (live near the Twin Cities), but I was out walking for a couple hours yesterday under blue skies and sun. When I got home my thermometer read -17F. Exposed skin on my face was nearly lobster red. Probably should have used sunscreen.

Last time I was 'back home' was for my grandfather's funeral.  I flew out with my Uncle who lives not to far from me here in the SF Bay Area.  It was a hair under 55 when we lifted off from SFO.

For some reason after we landed in MSP the jet didn't taxi up to a hub but instead they drove one of the truck/step things to the door and we had to disembark onto the tarmac and walk to the terminal.  It was -14 at the time in Minneapolis.

When they cracked the door open to let us out and that first gust of real winter blew in to the cabin...  My Uncle and I both looked at each other and without a word being said I knew we were both thinking, "fark the funeral... We're staying in our seats till this thing touches back down in California."

/We buried him with a case of PBR,
//So if I ever find myself in Minneapolis again and it's after 2 AM, and I really need a drink...
///...I totally know where to dig.
 
2014-01-06 01:09:20 PM  

thornhill: wxboy: thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.

1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.

Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.

I also question what the extra heads up really does for parents. Unless you're really rich, you're not paying for unscheduled childcare. At my office, parents have either: 1) Taken their kids with them to work (stuck them in conference rooms with TVs); 2) Just taken the day off to be home with their kids; or 3) Their parents are watching the kids.

The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.


I would imagine it's more of a pubblic safety thing, too. The NE is (or upper midwest) is equipped to handle icy roads. The school bus drivers in those areas drive in ice and snow a heck of a lot. The parents who drive their kids are used to the conditions, too. Kids have cold weather gear to handle extreme cold. The city/county/state is ready to take of the roads because they generally do it all winter long. I'm pretty darn sure that salt for the roads is just a normal part of Minneapolis's budget while there aren't very many cities in the south with the same thing.
 
2014-01-06 01:09:39 PM  

lifeboat: Ker_Thwap: skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.

Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.

Yup - wind chill has no effect on inanimate objects. It is the equivalent temperature at which your body will lose its heat.


flondrix: Ker_Thwap: skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.

Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.

Specifically, a non-heated object like a roof will cool down (or heat up) to the ambient temperature and no further; wind chill can only speed that process up.    Wind chill numbers are calculated for bodies that are internally heated and attempting to maintain a surface temperature of 98.6 Fahrenheit, and they only tell you an equivalent temperature in terms of rate of heat loss.  If the ambient temperature is 21F with a windchill of -4F, a guy in a T-shirt will shiver, suffer, and shed heat about the same as if the temperature were -4F and the wind were not blowing, until he loses the ability to maintain normal body temperature, and which point his soon-to-be-lifeless body will drop to 21F and no further.


Scientifically correct or not, I've seen it happen first hand.  Whether it was from the below freezing wind chill, the panels still being below freezing from the night before, or the thermometer being inaccurate, I've seen frost and light ice build up on metal in humid, cold winds when the temperature was still slightly above freezing (33-36F).  Whatever the case may be , it's called trying to be safe and you really don't want to be on a roof holding a 16-20ftx4-6ft metal panel when the wind can gust above 15mph, especially if there's a risk that frost or ice could build up.

/Having to redownload BF4
//Accidentally deleted the executable
///Downloading 20+ Gigabytes sucks.
 
2014-01-06 01:10:55 PM  
I hope they are prepared for the storm.
All they need is to shelter in place with some Pepsi Soda-Pop.
And huge handles of liquor.
 
2014-01-06 01:11:47 PM  
It was around 2 degrees F in central Oklahoma at 7am today.  It's up to a blistering 13 F now, but with a wind chill of 4 F.
 
2014-01-06 01:14:28 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: TNel: DubtodaIll: Sure, our entire current Foreign Policy. Red Line.

How vague of you.

Ok, give me an example of Obama shining excellence?

I never said that, he's a fine leader.  He hasn't started any wars, healthcare is finally starting to turn around in this country, and the economy is recovering.  All in all I think we are in a better place than we were at before he came in so he gets a passing grade.  Dubya started multiple wars and tanked the economy so he failed.

The fact that you can't point to one specific thing is enough to show that you have an axe to grind because your team lost an election.  Politics should not be like a sports team; just because you lost doesn't mean you can block legistration until you have another go at trying to win.


Ooh, so you're just defending him because he's such a great guy and not because he's on "your team."  If the only way you can defend Obama is by pointing out the bad qualities of the republicans then that's pretty indicative that there's not much good to actually say about him.   And I'm not a dyed in the wool conservative.  I think it's embarrassing how gridlocked our government has been during Obama's administration.  I would lay more blame on Obama for not being able to put a strong enough case forward to get past the republicans derpy derp.  Of course it's not that the GOP isn't without blame, they have plenty of jackasses too.  If he were a stronger leader he would have been able to adapt and overcome the adversity he's faced.  Instead he says what he needs to say in the moment and acts like he never actually said it when it turns south and then pans it off like it's not a big deal that the POTUS would possibly he held accountable for the words that come out of his mouth.   Also if he were competent he would be better at anticipating the resistance to what he wants to accomplish.   The nature of the Presidency should be the individual who can lay out a plan for the nation and be able to motivate Congress to agree to his plan.   It shouldn't be able being only slightly less worse than the other guys, it should be trying to excel beyond expectations and the status quo. Anyway, it sure is cold outside today.
 
2014-01-06 01:16:33 PM  

El Dudereno: Captain Pissgums: NWS says we've warmed-up to -15F here (Sioux Falls, SD), on our way to a forecast high of -10.  Couple more days of this, then we're headed into the 30's (above zero) for this weekend.  It's winter and it's the Northern Plains - it happens.

*waves*

Hello, fellow Sioux Fallsian.

*hand freezes solid*



Hello, El Dood. Hot enough for ya?
 
2014-01-06 01:18:46 PM  

ladodger34: thornhill: wxboy: thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.

1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.

Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.

I also question what the extra heads up really does for parents. Unless you're really rich, you're not paying for unscheduled childcare. At my office, parents have either: 1) Taken their kids with them to work (stuck them in conference rooms with TVs); 2) Just taken the day off to be home with their kids; or 3) Their parents are watching the kids.

The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.

I would imagine it's more of a pubblic safety thing, too. The NE is (or upper midwest) is equipped to handle icy roads. The school bus drivers in those areas drive in ice and snow a heck of a lot. The parents who drive their kids are used to the conditions, too. Kids have cold weather gear to handle extreme cold. The city/county/state is ready to take of the roads because they generally do it all winter long. I'm pretty darn sure that salt for the roads is just a normal part of Minneapolis's budget while there aren't very many cities in the south with the same thing.


I don't dispute any of that. My only point is that maybe they should have waited a longer later to see if the ice materialized so they didn't have to close schools for two days. And I question how much of a favor they really did parents by preemptively closing schools. Of the parents I know, what they did with their kids today was no different than what they would have done had they found out at 6AM this morning there would be no school.
 
2014-01-06 01:25:02 PM  

DubtodaIll: If he were a stronger leader he would have been able to adapt and overcome the adversity he's faced.


How can you overcome "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."?

How can you pass laws when you have people in congress that will not do their job?  How can you blame the President for your failure to even make a budget?  How can you blame the President for you not willing to pay the bills for something was passed in the budget then say you won't pay the bills until you allow something that has no bearing to the bills?
 
2014-01-06 01:28:00 PM  

TNel: Ok, give me an example of Obama shining excellence?

I never said that, he's a fine leader. He hasn't started any wars


Libya wasn't a war?
 
2014-01-06 01:30:56 PM  

quiotu: Igor Jakovsky: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Same where i am in FL. oh noes it may get in the 40s tonight

Despite it being a sign of the next Ice Age, I'd love to see either state go below 0 just once in my life, just to see you lot eating your young in panic and burning your elderly to stay warm.


Half of the floridas population seems to be from new england and canada so they can deal with the cold. This isnt texas where a dusting of snow will bring large cities to a halt.

I grew up in FL but lived in NY for 4 years and didnt mind the cold. Enjoyed snow too.
 
2014-01-06 01:31:46 PM  

TNel: DubtodaIll: If he were a stronger leader he would have been able to adapt and overcome the adversity he's faced.

How can you overcome "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."?

How can you pass laws when you have people in congress that will not do their job?  How can you blame the President for your failure to even make a budget?  How can you blame the President for you not willing to pay the bills for something was passed in the budget then say you won't pay the bills until you allow something that has no bearing to the bills?


Hell I don't know, I'm not the POTUS or would think myself competent enough to hold the office.  I would make an awful politician as I always own up to my mistakes and will gladly eat crow if something was my fault.  You're just hammering home the idea that Obama doesn't take any credit for any of his mistakes and is generally a shirker of responsibility.  Also I'm not blaming him for the shortcomings of his opposition, I'm blaming him for his own shortcomings.  In case you forgot, he had a willing Congress his first two years in office.
 
2014-01-06 01:33:10 PM  

This text is now purple: TNel: Ok, give me an example of Obama shining excellence?

I never said that, he's a fine leader. He hasn't started any wars

Libya wasn't a war?


Wasn't our last "war" WWII?

Every one after that was technically an "engagement", right?
 
2014-01-06 01:33:31 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Why do so many people from New Orleans live in Atlanta anyway? They certainly don't come here for the Southern charm.


I moved up here to go to Tech and for the penis. I regularly trek back home because Atlanta's cajun and creole options aren't really that great.
 
2014-01-06 01:35:08 PM  

thornhill: ladodger34: thornhill: wxboy: thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.

1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.

Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.

I also question what the extra heads up really does for parents. Unless you're really rich, you're not paying for unscheduled childcare. At my office, parents have either: 1) Taken their kids with them to work (stuck them in conference rooms with TVs); 2) Just taken the day off to be home with their kids; or 3) Their parents are watching the kids.

The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.

I would imagine it's more of a pubblic safety thing, too. The NE is (or upper midwest) is equipped to handle icy roads. The school bus drivers in those areas drive in ice and snow a heck of a lot. The parents who drive their kids are used to the conditions, too. Kids have cold weather gear to handle extreme cold. The city/county/state is ready to take of the roads because they generally do it all winter long. I'm pretty darn sure that salt for the roads is just a normal part of Minneapolis's budget while there aren't very many cities in the south with the same thing.

I don't dispute any of that. My only point is that maybe they should have waited a longer later to see if the ice materialized so they didn't have to close schools for two days. And I question how much of a favor they really did parents by preemptively closing schools. Of the parents I know, what they did with their kids today was no different than what they would have done had they found out at 6AM this morning there would be no school.


I hear ya on that. I just know that working for a local govt that it is a catch-22.

And they probably could have waited until yesterday morning to make the call.

I don't envy the folks who have to make those calls.
 
2014-01-06 01:42:26 PM  

Trillian Astra: for the penis.


Whoa.
 
2014-01-06 01:43:31 PM  

skeevy420: lifeboat: Ker_Thwap: skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.

Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.

Yup - wind chill has no effect on inanimate objects. It is the equivalent temperature at which your body will lose its heat.

flondrix: Ker_Thwap: skeevy420: For example, even though the temp could be 35 F, the wind chill could be 28 F which could cause the humidity to stick and freeze to that metal roof we're trying to install.

Wrong.   If the temp is 30, and it's windy, then thicker ice could form faster.  No amount of wind will make ice form when the temperature is above freezing.

Specifically, a non-heated object like a roof will cool down (or heat up) to the ambient temperature and no further; wind chill can only speed that process up.    Wind chill numbers are calculated for bodies that are internally heated and attempting to maintain a surface temperature of 98.6 Fahrenheit, and they only tell you an equivalent temperature in terms of rate of heat loss.  If the ambient temperature is 21F with a windchill of -4F, a guy in a T-shirt will shiver, suffer, and shed heat about the same as if the temperature were -4F and the wind were not blowing, until he loses the ability to maintain normal body temperature, and which point his soon-to-be-lifeless body will drop to 21F and no further.

Scientifically correct or not, I've seen it happen first hand.  Whether it was from the below freezing wind chill, the panels still being below freezing from the night before, or the thermometer being inaccurate, I've seen frost and light ice build up on metal in humid, cold winds when the temperature was still slightly above freezing (33-36F).  Whatever the case may be , it's called trying to be safe and you really don't

 want to be on a roof holding a 16-20ftx4-6ft metal panel when the wind can gust above 15mph, especially if there's a risk that frost or ice could build up.

Wow, you have seen the impossible happen!  'Tis a miracle!  Actually, your comment about not wanting to be on a roof with winds blowing is the only intelligent thing about any of your posts.  Wind chill is valid only for exposed flesh.  Cover the flesh and it's moot.  Good luck on the roofs!
 
2014-01-06 01:43:55 PM  

This text is now purple: Libya wasn't a war?


How many troops on the ground?  How many died?
 
2014-01-06 01:44:50 PM  

Captain Pissgums: El Dudereno: Captain Pissgums: NWS says we've warmed-up to -15F here (Sioux Falls, SD), on our way to a forecast high of -10.  Couple more days of this, then we're headed into the 30's (above zero) for this weekend.  It's winter and it's the Northern Plains - it happens.

*waves*

Hello, fellow Sioux Fallsian.

*hand freezes solid*


Hello, El Dood. Hot enough for ya?


Who wants ice cream?
 
2014-01-06 01:50:28 PM  
The one week a year it is better to live in Florida!
 
2014-01-06 01:51:18 PM  

mainstreet62: Whoa.


It's not THAT weird to relocate to where your partner lives.
 
2014-01-06 02:02:28 PM  

GanjSmokr: This text is now purple: TNel: Ok, give me an example of Obama shining excellence?

I never said that, he's a fine leader. He hasn't started any wars

Libya wasn't a war?

Wasn't our last "war" WWII?

Every one after that was technically an "engagement", right?


Well, there were also a couple of happenstances, as I recall.
 
2014-01-06 02:10:15 PM  
South Texas reporting in...High today was forcasted at 40, and it only got up to 35.  It is supposed to get down to 25 tonight.  This morning it was 28.

I will try to enjoy the cold, because I know in August, I will miss it.
 
2014-01-06 02:16:08 PM  
 
2014-01-06 02:17:15 PM  

mizchief: He farked up or position with Syria pretty bad talking shiat and making threats that no one else was willing to back up just help him save face.


Really is that how you remember something that happened about 6 months ago?  Republicans were all for strikes on Syria if need be.  Obama did the right thing as a leader and went to Congress to authorize it. The reason we never went in is because there wasn't enough support from other countries.  We did the right thing by postuering and letting these "leaders" know that you can't gas your people and have the entire world stand by and let it happen.

Just because most of the world was too afraid to do something that is right doesn't mean we have to cower in the corner and let others suffer.
 
2014-01-06 02:26:50 PM  

Uncivil Engineer: South Texas reporting in...High today was forcasted at 40, and it only got up to 35.  It is supposed to get down to 25 tonight.  This morning it was 28.

I will try to enjoy the cold, because I know in August, I will miss it.


See, the thing is, if it's cold, you can always bundle up to a comfort level, unless you happen to be, say, wintering over at Amundsen-Scott base in Antarctica.

When it's hot, you can only remove so much clothing until you are naked, and still uncomfortably hot.

So I much prefer the cold over the heat, because all things being equal, I can deal with the cold more easily.
 
2014-01-06 02:28:06 PM  

DarwiOdrade: AngryDragon: Damn global warming.

If you picked number 9 in the "How many posts until some troll makes a stupid global warming comment in a weather thread?" pool, step up and claim your free internets.


Was the sarcasm not apparent enough?  Maybe I should have added a "Thanks Obama!" too.  I'll do better next time.
 
2014-01-06 02:34:31 PM  

dittybopper: Uncivil Engineer: South Texas reporting in...High today was forcasted at 40, and it only got up to 35.  It is supposed to get down to 25 tonight.  This morning it was 28.

I will try to enjoy the cold, because I know in August, I will miss it.

See, the thing is, if it's cold, you can always bundle up to a comfort level, unless you happen to be, say, wintering over at Amundsen-Scott base in Antarctica.

When it's hot, you can only remove so much clothing until you are naked, and still uncomfortably hot.

So I much prefer the cold over the heat, because all things being equal, I can deal with the cold more easily.


This
 
2014-01-06 02:45:09 PM  

skeevy420: Scientifically correct or not, I've seen it happen first hand.  Whether it was from the below freezing wind chill, the panels still being below freezing from the night before, or the thermometer being inaccurate, I've seen frost and light ice build up on metal in humid, cold winds when the temperature was still slightly above freezing (33-36F).


Wind chill is what temperature the air feels like because you are not able to maintain a buffer of warm, body heated air around you.  More heat is pulled out of your body.  It does not change the freezing point of water.
 
2014-01-06 03:05:31 PM  

flondrix:  can anyone hear speak authoritatively about wind chill factors?  As I understand it, "-4F with wind chill" means that an exposed surface at a temperature of 98.6F will lose heat at the same rate it would have in still air at -4F.  Now, under those same wind chill conditions, does an object at 98.6F wrapped in polyester fleece also lose heat at the same rate that an object at 98.6F wrapped in polyester fleece would in still air at -4F?

At the very least, I would expect any body, insulated or not, to lose heat faster with the wind blowing than without it.  Sure, if you are really, really bundled up, a wind chill of -4F is not a problem--but the same can be said for still air at -4F.




I am not an authority but many years ago I was interested in this answer so I can sorta relay what I found, but your on the money.

We mammals have a tiny air bubble around of as our body is producing heat insulating us from the ambient temperature.  Wind chill is the wind blowing this bubble away and producing a process approximating the same process that causes hot water to freeze faster than cold.  That bubble of air also keeps the hot air in during the summer and why we like a gentle breeze as we're hotter than the air usually.

I would imagine on whether bundled or not would depend on how loose fitting the clothes were.  The insulating bubble of air isn't very thick and you would want that on the inside of your protective clothing.  If the clothing is tight it would be on the outside and you would still experience wind chill.  With it inside the clothing you would not and thus why they say layers of loose fitting clothing.  However unless your pretty much going out in spacesuit your gonna feel a little bit of windchill as something is always exposed, especially our faces.
 
2014-01-06 03:16:07 PM  

hutchkc: flondrix:  can anyone hear speak authoritatively about wind chill factors?  As I understand it,


WOW, after reading what I wrote it is obvious that I'm sleepier than I thought.
 
2014-01-06 03:31:45 PM  
I'm in Canton, Ga about 40 miles north of Atlanta. Little colder up here, but my  hot cocoa sampler box helps keep me nice and warm.
 
2014-01-06 03:32:29 PM  
It's so cold up here that I'm farting snow flakes.
 
2014-01-06 03:37:50 PM  

penguin83: I'm in Canton, Ga about 40 miles north of Atlanta. Little colder up here, but my  hot cocoa sampler box helps keep me nice and warm.


What, you set it on fire?
 
2014-01-06 03:45:53 PM  

mizchief: Rapmaster2000: Tom_Slick: vudukungfu: Those folks are not intelligent enough to survive that type of cold.
there will be deaths.

If that were the case, there would be no one in Atlanta as they would have died up north before they moved here.

I moved to Atlanta from Chicago.

So I'm really getting a kick out of this reply.

I moved here to get away from this crap.  At least the roads didn't freeze last night.  6 degrees tonight should cause a lot of busted pipes around town.  A coworker of mine had one break 3 years ago because it was running through the uninsulated part of his attic.  Another example of the outstanding McMansion construction you can get around here.

You can always go back.


Like most carpetbaggers, my superior education and earning power allows me to come and go where I please.

If you don't like it, Delta's ready when you are.  I think Knoxville is more your speed.
 
2014-01-06 03:46:08 PM  

GanjSmokr: This text is now purple: TNel: Ok, give me an example of Obama shining excellence?

I never said that, he's a fine leader. He hasn't started any wars

Libya wasn't a war?

Wasn't our last "war" WWII?

Every one after that was technically an "engagement", right?


Depends.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States #F ormal

Under the formal definition, the Civil War wasn't a "war".
 
2014-01-06 03:47:00 PM  

Oldiron_79: dittybopper: Uncivil Engineer: South Texas reporting in...High today was forcasted at 40, and it only got up to 35.  It is supposed to get down to 25 tonight.  This morning it was 28.

I will try to enjoy the cold, because I know in August, I will miss it.

See, the thing is, if it's cold, you can always bundle up to a comfort level, unless you happen to be, say, wintering over at Amundsen-Scott base in Antarctica.

When it's hot, you can only remove so much clothing until you are naked, and still uncomfortably hot.

So I much prefer the cold over the heat, because all things being equal, I can deal with the cold more easily.

This


I don't get this reasoning, but i guess i just have a really low tolerance for cold.

Piling on a million layers then peeling them off is a hassle. I overheat in down and underheat in other things. Getting wet when cold is the worst.

I've lived in the tropics, and i walked everywhere with a fan in one hand and a washcloth wiping my face every few feet, but heat doesn't hurt the way cold gets in your bones.
 
2014-01-06 03:50:06 PM  

Nothing To See Here: Al Gore


*chug*
 
2014-01-06 03:56:32 PM  

o'really: Piling on a million layers then peeling them off is a hassle. I overheat in down and underheat in other things. Getting wet when cold is the worst.


Wool is your best friend.

I hate down myself, and only wear it on the very, very coldest days.  I made the mistake of wearing it today, when the temp was only about 30 F, and I had to completely turn off the heater in the car and just get cold air in because I was sweating.
 
2014-01-06 03:57:22 PM  
It's quite warm here.

Ice Miser come home! All is forgiven!

Warm here means:

a) it is raining instead of snowing
b) it is windy instead of calm
c) there is ice on the sidewalks, sloping in all directions
d) there is ice underneath the snow
e) there is ice underneath the filthy mud puddles and running streams of water trapped between snowbanks
f) there is slush in the water, on the water and instead of water
g) when it freezes, even the clear bits of sidewalk will turn into treacherous black ice unless they dry out first
h) there is black ice already where the ice is very thin and the sidewalk relatively unheated.

We always get this crap in January. Sometimes we get half a month, sometimes a whole month, sometimes we get about three years worth.

Give me a real Canadian Winter over the traditional January floods.

The rest of the week should be back to normal, but with ice, nasty, nasty ice. The older I get the more walking scares me.

It's not so bad for the motorists. Judging from the speed the fools are going when they plow through the muddy, slushy water, to splash us pedestrians they are doing just fine. Ice is far from their tiny rodent minds. It's just a normal day in Fat Cat City for the motorists, which has the worst pedestrians this side of Boston and the worst drivers this side of Montreal.
 
2014-01-06 03:58:28 PM  
Hall County schools closed tomorrow. I still have to work.
 
2014-01-06 04:03:35 PM  

LesserEvil: Stuck at home in Mid-Michigan after 14 inches of snow fell. Getting a kick....

[i.imgur.com image 800x600]

Temps plunging to -5 tomorrow.


What you (may) fail to understand is our snow and ice removal equipment.  We don't have a lot and by a not lot I mean almost none.  I think my entire county has 4 sand/salt trucks.  I have never see one, or evidence of one, on my street not the larger street that connects my subdivison to the outside world.  If my street gets an inch of snow or any amount over ice I'm simply not able to get my car out.  And even if i did then I have to contend with roller coaster hills that would result in my car being left at the bottom of one.

I get a kick out of Northen folk mocking the cold in the South.  Come down in late July and we'll see who's whining :)
 
2014-01-06 04:26:30 PM  

KidneyStone: LesserEvil: Stuck at home in Mid-Michigan after 14 inches of snow fell. Getting a kick....

[i.imgur.com image 800x600]

Temps plunging to -5 tomorrow.

What you (may) fail to understand is our snow and ice removal equipment.  We don't have a lot and by a not lot I mean almost none.  I think my entire county has 4 sand/salt trucks.  I have never see one, or evidence of one, on my street not the larger street that connects my subdivison to the outside world.  If my street gets an inch of snow or any amount over ice I'm simply not able to get my car out.  And even if i did then I have to contend with roller coaster hills that would result in my car being left at the bottom of one.

I get a kick out of Northen folk mocking the cold in the South.  Come down in late July and we'll see who's whining :)


I lived in coastal South Carolina for a few years. I've seen how they freak out over 1/4" of snow, posting plow trucks at bridges and becoming shut-ins after hoarding supplies from the local Piggly Wiggly.

A little snow at temps of 25 or less shouldn't be that much of a concern - it won't be that slick. Take those conditions right at 32degF, and you've got problems, since the snow melts and refreezes as black ice. While we are equipped as a northern state for snow, unfortunately, our highways are still engineered by civil engineers in southern California, which means cloverleafs (always fun to exit when iced over), curving overpasses, and stretches of highway that run perfect for the wind to freeze (I-96 just west of Detroit is particularly bad for this, turning into a skate rink). I'm sure those details apply doubly so for a southern state.
 
vpc
2014-01-06 04:35:06 PM  
Tom_Slick: there would be no one in Atlanta as they would have died up north before they moved here.

....and we're done.
 
2014-01-06 04:42:16 PM  

Infinity370: AngryDragon: Damn global warming.

Might look at what's currently happening in Australia.


Or Alaska.
 
2014-01-06 04:43:01 PM  
Sitting here in east central FL I think I just felt the first rush of cooler air finally push through the north-facing window beside my desk. I may have to put a shirt on in a few hours.
 
2014-01-06 04:50:05 PM  

dittybopper: Uncivil Engineer: South Texas reporting in...High today was forcasted at 40, and it only got up to 35.  It is supposed to get down to 25 tonight.  This morning it was 28.

I will try to enjoy the cold, because I know in August, I will miss it.

See, the thing is, if it's cold, you can always bundle up to a comfort level, unless you happen to be, say, wintering over at Amundsen-Scott base in Antarctica.

When it's hot, you can only remove so much clothing until you are naked, and still uncomfortably hot.

So I much prefer the cold over the heat, because all things being equal, I can deal with the cold more easily.


I'm the exact opposite. Wearing six layers is really annoying and uncomfortable, and your nose still freezes off unless you're wearing a mask. And cold HURTS. Once your feet and hands get cold, even if you go into a warm place, it takes hours to warm up properly. Having ice blocks for feet is pretty much my least favorite thing.

Being hot is only mildly uncomfortable to me. I don't mind sweating at all; I'm a huge fan of saunas and steam rooms. The only problem with being too hot is when it lasts too long. And as soon as you go inside to a place with air conditioning, you instantly get relief.
 
2014-01-06 06:13:30 PM  

TNel: thornhill: wxboy: thornhill: moos: thornhill: I suppose that's a fair reason to close schools, but I don't get why they made that call over the weekend instead of waiting until Monday morning to see if there actually was ice.

It gives the parents certainty so they can plan accordingly instead of not knowing until Monday morning and having to react in a more immediate fashion.

Eh, I suppose, but when I lived in the NE schools always waited until about 5 or 6 am on the day of the cancel.

1-2 day forecasting has gotten good enough that schools can have certainty that conditions will warrant a closure a lot earlier than in the past.

Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.

I also question what the extra heads up really does for parents. Unless you're really rich, you're not paying for unscheduled childcare. At my office, parents have either: 1) Taken their kids with them to work (stuck them in conference rooms with TVs); 2) Just taken the day off to be home with their kids; or 3) Their parents are watching the kids.

The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.

If you have before and after school care they will watch them when school is cancelled and not charge you extra.


In MN, Anytime Fitness runs a Kid Camp on days school is canceled. $30 for 8-6. My grandson begs for it.
 
2014-01-06 08:15:46 PM  
It's a crisp -1 here but will be 100 degrees again before you know it

meh
 
2014-01-06 09:26:20 PM  

dittybopper: o'really: Piling on a million layers then peeling them off is a hassle. I overheat in down and underheat in other things. Getting wet when cold is the worst.

Wool is your best friend.

I hate down myself, and only wear it on the very, very coldest days.  I made the mistake of wearing it today, when the temp was only about 30 F, and I had to completely turn off the heater in the car and just get cold air in because I was sweating.


Funny you mention that, because my sister was just home for the holidays, and extolling the benefits of wool, which is making her reconsider her aversion to putting down roots in the northeast

/ only took her 8 ny winters...
 
2014-01-06 09:31:03 PM  
It's 14 degrees here now in the city.. Will be down to 4 tonight. Horse is 40 miles away, wearing three blankets. Cats are right here, curled up beside me on the sofa (I'm not dumb enough to try putting a sweater on the laid back one again).

Maybe not getting that job in Chicago wasn't such a bad thing....

I just hope all the animals that don't have a person to take care of them find somewhere warm.
 
2014-01-06 11:38:25 PM  
UtileDysfunktion: ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.

...with a cactus.

/enjoy your brush fires next summer

At least it'll be warm.

What are you and your moose-farking brethren from Canada doing to stay warm?


Burning California.

/sorry, couldn't resist
//not from anywhere near Canadia

skeevy420: Scientifically correct or not, I've seen it happen first hand.  Whether it was from the below freezing wind chill, the panels still being below freezing from the night before, or the thermometer being inaccurate, I've seen frost and light ice build up on metal in humid, cold winds when the temperature was still slightly above freezing (33-36F).

Wind chill is what temperature the air feels like because you are not able to maintain a buffer of warm, body heated air around you.  More heat is pulled out of your body.  It does not change the freezing point of water.


http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/11/at-what-temperature- do es-water-freeze/

No, but temperature isn't the only thing that determines the exact freezing/thawing point of water. Not to mention that when the temperature is right at that point, things get real fun. A big one is if, as is common, it's not pure water - Raoult's Law covers that...

http://cssac.unc.edu/programs/learning-center/Resources/Study/Guides /C hemistry%20102/Solutions
 
2014-01-07 12:01:08 AM  
-30 to -40 here in Niagara Falls. Still have to go to work tomorrow cuz someone has to watch the unstable people.
/mental health social worker
 
2014-01-07 01:13:41 AM  

okiemule: UtileDysfunktion: ClavellBCMI: VivianVivisect: 75 degrees here in California. Sunny.

Fark you.

...with a cactus.

/enjoy your brush fires next summer

At least it'll be warm.

What are you and your moose-farking brethren from Canada doing to stay warm?

Burning California.

/sorry, couldn't resist
//not from anywhere near Canadia

skeevy420: Scientifically correct or not, I've seen it happen first hand.  Whether it was from the below freezing wind chill, the panels still being below freezing from the night before, or the thermometer being inaccurate, I've seen frost and light ice build up on metal in humid, cold winds when the temperature was still slightly above freezing (33-36F).

Wind chill is what temperature the air feels like because you are not able to maintain a buffer of warm, body heated air around you.  More heat is pulled out of your body.  It does not change the freezing point of water.

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/11/at-what-temperature- do es-water-freeze/

No, but temperature isn't the only thing that determines the exact freezing/thawing point of water. Not to mention that when the temperature is right at that point, things get real fun. A big one is if, as is common, it's not pure water - Raoult's Law covers that...

http://cssac.unc.edu/programs/learning-center/Resources/Study/Guides /C hemistry%20102/Solutions


Do tell, what determines the freezing point of water?  I know the colligative property of solute concentration is a big one.  That's why adding salts is so popular this time of year.  Also, atmospheric pressure is important.  Of course, down here near sea level it's always about 32 degrees F.  So what else?
 
2014-01-07 09:41:24 AM  

thornhill: Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.
...
The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.


The closures never had anything to do with ice. These windchills are farking dangerous all by themselves. Kids could get frostbite in as little as five minutes. If a bus were to run a little late for any reason kids would be in serious danger. It's just not worth it. And it's kind of disturbing hearing about parents that would rather send their kids out in this than deal with the inconvenience of being parents.
 
2014-01-07 10:43:30 AM  

the_foo: thornhill: Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.
...
The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.

The closures never had anything to do with ice. These windchills are farking dangerous all by themselves. Kids could get frostbite in as little as five minutes. If a bus were to run a little late for any reason kids would be in serious danger. It's just not worth it. And it's kind of disturbing hearing about parents that would rather send their kids out in this than deal with the inconvenience of being parents.


The news said it was ice because of the expected rain on Sunday evening.
 
2014-01-07 11:43:46 AM  

the_foo: thornhill: Except they completely blew it in this case -- there's no ice anywhere.
...
The parents at my office would have preferred that the schools have just waited until the last possible minute to close.

The closures never had anything to do with ice. These windchills are farking dangerous all by themselves. Kids could get frostbite in as little as five minutes. If a bus were to run a little late for any reason kids would be in serious danger. It's just not worth it. And it's kind of disturbing hearing about parents that would rather send their kids out in this than deal with the inconvenience of being parents.


Most school buses are diesel fueled. At -25F, that xhit is like heavy honey.
Just too expensive to make fleets reliable in cold weather.
 
2014-01-07 05:51:20 PM  
Meanwhile, it's above freezing in Moscow, Russia. The snow is actually starting to melt a bit, which doesn't normally occur until April. It's awesome
 
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