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(Chicago Breaking News)   Another Chicago sports landmark to be ruined: Cubs to block out neighbors with big tarps.   ( divider line
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5509 clicks; posted to Main » on 06 Dec 2001 at 9:45 AM (15 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2001-12-06 09:48:05 AM  
The terrorists have already.....ah nevermind
2001-12-06 09:49:18 AM  
I would set fire to the tarps if I lived there. Farging Corksuckers
2001-12-06 09:52:06 AM  
it is a farking tradition there to watch from the adjoining roofs
2001-12-06 09:52:38 AM  
There are clubs charging admission to stands on the rooftops now? Raise the sails!
2001-12-06 09:54:31 AM  
I can deal with the lights for night games, but this is too farking much. That's been a tradition at Wrigley forever. I love watching a Cubs game on WGN knowing there are freeloaders on neighboring rooftops barbecueing, getting shiatfaced at noon on a Wednesday & just having a ball watching the Cubs play.

Absolutely stupid. Someone needs to be put against the wall & shot immediately
2001-12-06 09:57:05 AM  
Cubs suck anyway.

Runs and hides
2001-12-06 10:00:06 AM  
Is the Cubby Bear still a good watering hole?
2001-12-06 10:02:34 AM  
Weak. That's just plain weak. Boycott Cubs games.
2001-12-06 10:05:03 AM  
What they really need to cut down on is all the farking business guys who go to the game to 'network' and then get pissed when I spill beer on them.
2001-12-06 10:05:19 AM  
Didn't we beat this around a month or so ago?

The people that sit on the rooftops these days are not not people cooking bratwusts on a grill and drinking beer from coolers.

Most of these roofs that can see into the park have been leased to the owners to entertainment corporations. THey have installed bleachers and all kinds of concessions and rent the space (and catering) out to large corporations for clients because tickets are unavailable.

You can forget about the old guy in a t-shirt drinking beer, eating brats, and sitting in a lawn chair on a roof. It just ain't happening.

OTOH, people who own the building can do anything they want. It's their building. Of course the ball club owners can do anything they want also.

If the building owners would be straight up they would just negotiate an agreement to view the games from the roofs. Of course that means they would have to pay and no one likes to do that.
2001-12-06 10:05:33 AM  
Stupid is right. If the Cubs were that worried about people "stealing their product," as McGuire put it, the club should work out an arrangement with the clubhouse owners to get a slice of the admission charged by owners. The Cubs add seats to the ballpark that way and it doesn't cost them a dime.
2001-12-06 10:06:36 AM  
Why? Because people won't be able to steal entertainment anymore? As soon as admission started being charged, the owners of the ajoining buildings, IMHO, became thiefs.
2001-12-06 10:08:58 AM  
I think it should be noted that Cubs games are in no way "entertainment".
2001-12-06 10:09:54 AM  
As if Wrigley does not sell out all the time despite having one of the worst sports franchises in history. I understand their desire to expand but hell, having extra seats overhanging the sidewalk does not sound like a very smart idea either. Just raise ticket prices again, nothing will stop chowderheads in Chicago from seeing that team.
2001-12-06 10:10:58 AM  
they should put a tarp over Neverland Ranch
2001-12-06 10:16:03 AM  
This reminds me of the story of two gus that rented a cherry-picker (or something of that ilk) to watch a sold out cricket match. There was nothing that the club could do as they were doing nothing illegal.
Maybe the building owners should build platforms higher than the tarps (all safety concerns aside).
2001-12-06 10:16:07 AM  
Typical move by the Cubs/Tribune corp, any means to get what they want to squeeze more money out of that park. The real crime is that thousands of drunk yuppies pay to GO to those games, where the cubs attempt to play ball, and the real entertainment is the drunk bimbos in the bikini tops. The game is secondary, at best.
2001-12-06 10:17:00 AM  

Good point, Welstradamus. :)

Now here's my question - why don't the Cubs just buy the friggin' buildings across the street? The team can act as landlord to the people living there, and use the rooftops as an added source of revenue. Wouldn't it make sense to invest a few bucks to control the "theft" of their product (it's sortof like those disclaimers that MLB plays on tv - no unauthorized rebroadcast, etc., in other words you can't make money off us if we don't get a cut) rather than invest a few bucks to block their view?!

Oh wait, that's right, it's the Cubs. Inept. :)
2001-12-06 10:17:28 AM  
The games are entertaining if you're rooting for the opposing team.
2001-12-06 10:20:07 AM  
Did anyone see that Cubs game against the Rockies (August 7th?) where the Cubs slipped going around third to score the winning run in the bottom of the ninth, and there was like a 20-second rundown between 1st/2nd - 3rd/home, and the whole thing ended with a Cub just sliding under the tag at home? Huh? HUH?

That was the most entertaining baseball moment of my life.
2001-12-06 10:21:37 AM  
But Ken Jakubowski, a spokesman for the Wrigleyville Rooftop Owners Association, a group of 13 rooftop operators, said the threat of a windscreen represents a miscalculation by Tribune Co., the team's owner.

Like I said, not the building owners or residents but the people who lease the roofs from the owners.

Gregg Kiriazes, president of the Lake View Citizens Council, agreed. "To me this is just another diversionary ploy on the part of Tribune Co. to continue to promote the concept that the only issue is between the rooftop clubs and the Cubs, which is not true," he said.

These are the building owners who are afraid their free ride is about to end because of claused put into the rooftop lease agreements.

SuperiorStudio had a good point, they will pay almost anything. Keep it up Chicago and they will let Wrigley Field become a landmark. They will then want a new stadium elsewhere and everyone will get burned except the loyal fans who will still go anyway. Heck, they might even pick up a few more paying fans because Wrigley is such a biatche to get to from the suburbs.
2001-12-06 10:23:27 AM  
Actually, I cant think of a Chicago sports team that doesnt suck (and dont say the Bears, they'll fold).

Climbes into a cave with Osama bin Laden, never to be found by the angry Chicago fans
2001-12-06 10:26:38 AM  
who cares, its baseball.
2001-12-06 10:30:08 AM  
In a related story: Next season, Enron Field will be placing large tarps over their field's use of the word 'Enron'
2001-12-06 10:30:51 AM  
I say let 'em put up windscreens. Not only will it block out those who don't pay to see the game, but it'll also keep in those homerun baseballs, thus giving more paying fans a souvenir from the game!
2001-12-06 10:32:02 AM  
2001-12-06 10:34:13 AM  
Three quick points:

1. The Bears are gonna bite it this Sunday. Screw the point spread, take the PACK

2. How many folks are big business gonna ream before a backlash happens? There's only one thing more powerful than big money, and that's public opinion. Go ahead..screw yet another sports cornerstone in the pursuit of profits.

3. The bleachers in Wrigley are in the top 10 of 'Best Place To See Drunken Boobies'
2001-12-06 10:35:07 AM  
I can think of one. The Chicago Fire kick ass and take names, so of course the city screws them blue. Daley needs a good solid ass whooping for tanking their stadium deal at Arlington.

But back to bad baseball...
2001-12-06 10:42:32 AM  
Chicago Fire?
What the Hell is that?
The Ping Pong team?
2001-12-06 10:43:23 AM  
2001-12-06 10:44:32 AM  
Oh, No wonder I've never heard of them.
2001-12-06 10:46:34 AM  
nice points Potemkin. they just raised the stadium prices too. seems like nothing is sacred nowadays. used to be one could walk over there for an afternoon game and spend very little money and have a great time. i think we're seeing the commodification & exploitaion of ALL entertainment. concert ticket prices (in general) are rocketing sky high too. at some point peeps are going to have to cry out "ENOUGH!" and tell the exploiters of entertainment to shove it!
of course, a big part of the problem is the idolisation of sports 'heroes'. (therefore creating outrageous salaries that are reinforced by statements of high profits).
seems like the only ones that don't matter when it caomes to money (except for their ability to spend it) is the working class.
i can't imagine wrigley being any bigger than it is anyway. i walk by there everyday on my way home from work, and i must say, if it expands, it's gonna be bad news.
2001-12-06 10:47:23 AM  
Personally, I can't wait for the day when Wrigley Field finally becomes so decrepit it has to be torn down. Fark tradition, the place is ancient, cramped, and smells of urine.

Going to Wrigley Field isn't about watching a baseball game, it's the world's largest sports bar. The typical Cubs "fan"? A beer in one hand, a cell phone in the other, dressed head to toe in Old Navy.

Yeah, sure, my White Sox pretty much suck (same owners as the Bulls, go figure), but at least the people there pay more attention to the game than to their trendiness rating.

As for the tarp/rooftop idea? Screw 'em. Baseball, like it or not, is a business now. Those people on the roofs aren't Joe Average Sports Fans, as others have noted. All of Wrigleyville is amazingly yuppified and far outside the finances of the average person. Screw 'em twice.
2001-12-06 10:49:39 AM  
I thought people just went to Wrigley to see boobies? It's not like any good sports are played their anyways.
2001-12-06 10:51:36 AM  
it is boobie heaven
2001-12-06 10:54:57 AM  
you can say it's big business screwing the little guy, but really it's big business screwing other big business. When I was a kid, I thought it'd be the coolest thing in the world to live in those buildings, but the people that live there can't afford those rooftop seats. That is how the little guys are getting screwed. I think that the team buying those buildings (or at least leasing those rooftops) would be probably the only way to maintain some shred of integrity. By the way, say all you want about the cubs sucking, we don't care. We still love them.
2001-12-06 10:55:00 AM  
This Mark McGuire guy needs to just shut up and leave
Cubs fans alone and go hit some more homers or something.
2001-12-06 10:58:02 AM  
I know!!.....put a farking dome on Wrigley....that'll show 'em. We wouldn't want to have any kind of tradition or character left in the game now would we.
Pro sports have really gone in the sh*tter!!!!
2001-12-06 11:00:47 AM  
Why haven't the Yanks bought all the good free agents yet?
2001-12-06 11:01:09 AM  
Sharv _ your mindset is moronic - those that settle don't deserve any better. you're like the Tribune solicitor that when trying to get me to subscribe to their paper couldn't understand that there is another way other than putting up with corporate totalitarianism - couldn't even imagine it. guess those with no imagination will always settle for letting others decide their reality.
and no, it's NOT necessarily about watching the game. that is only one small part of the experience. many peeps go to be with friends outdoors & have a few beers & a good time.
2001-12-06 11:05:15 AM  
I've just about had it with baseball. Look out, Selig, there may be 2 cents out there that isn't yours.
2001-12-06 11:09:23 AM  
ummm its their farking ballpark... let em do what they want.

man, and im usually the one saying fark big business and all that. im not even a nader supporter, but that dude was right on one thing... its gonna have to get worse before it gets better.
2001-12-06 11:13:21 AM  
when the Americans take me hostage i want to go to Wrigley field to see the boobies
2001-12-06 11:21:42 AM  
"intuitive": You don't like that major league baseball is a powerful corporation? Fine, stay home or go to a minor-league game. But, of course, those AA and AAA teams are really just a farm team for the Big Evil MLB Franchises, right?

I simply cannot stand all the anti-corporate, anti-capitalist crap that's floating around. We've got all these neo-hippies crying that The Man is shafting them out of their god-given rights to free everything: free software, free music, free seats at a baseball game.

You're afraid of the Big Corporations and don't want them to run your life? Fine, don't let them. Show a little backbone. Don't like Blockbuster Video, because they're owned by Evil Viacom? Good for you, go somewhere locally owned. Or rent DVDs online from Netflix. Don't want to add money to the coffers of McDonalds and Starbucks? Good for you - last I heard, there are still plenty of privately-owned restaurants and coffee shops open for business.

Some people like major league sports, some people think Starbucks brews a damn fine cup of coffee. They're as free to enjoy that as you are free to do otherwise. That doesn't make them morons.
2001-12-06 11:22:45 AM  
Sharv: At least people attend Cubs games, unlike Comiskey where half the stands are empty on any given night.

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2001-12-06 11:23:51 AM  

You're so damn down on everything in the US, why dont you get out of here? Go live in a cave with Osama.. go live with the Brits.. not everything in America is bad or wrong, get over it dude... nobody is impressed with your coffee-house wanna-be artist ass.
2001-12-06 11:24:40 AM  
Oh, bloody 'ell.

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2001-12-06 11:25:11 AM  
intuitive: One final thing. For others, it is about going to the stadium and watching the game. However, it's nearly impossible to get tickets to a Cubs game, precisely because the place is overrun with the beer-swilling non-fans you're defending. You want to stick up for the little guys, realize that the deep-pocket yuppies and corporate outings at Wrigley buy up all the seats and prevent Joe Average from getting in.
2001-12-06 11:26:25 AM  
Come on Sharv. You're just another jealous southie living with all the other blue collar pollacks down there.

As a former Wrigleyville resident, I must say, there is nothing finer in the world. Fark the Southsiders. They are nothing but a bunch of morons anyway.
2001-12-06 11:27:56 AM  

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