SpdrJay: Science dammit!
drjekel_mrhyde: Any room for us Flat Earth Atheist?
gameshowhost: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club! We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.That was a funny read. "Additional verification needed". Like there's a USPS center on the moon to cancel the stamps.If you want a series of good laughs, read up on the Apollo, Gemini and Mercury programs. Those guys got away with a LOT in those days.: /Guys, please stay on topic.
gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club! We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.
DubyaHater: You're one of those militant<...>
gimmegimme: Wow, those are extreme strawmen.I'm sorry. Strawpyrsyns.
Egoy3k: ciberido: It was formed in the aftermath of Elevatorgate because there was a sense that too many vocal atheists were misogynistic, racist, or homophobic and that the "face" or "voice" of modern atheism was too white/male/heterosexual.Not surprisingly, those atheists who weren't big fans of feminism to begin with don't much care for "Atheism+."I'm a fan of feminism and I think that 'elevatorgate' is the stupidest thing ever. As such I'm not a huge fan of Atheism+ but that doesn't mean I hate women./The misogynist backlash for 'elevatorgate' was shameful but that doesn't mean that the actual incident wasn't stupid and pretty harmless.
s2s2s2: Epicedion: You're equivocating the literal and metaphorical meanings of the word "deity" here. When you say the more common "his god is money" you don't literally mean that the person worships money as a literal god. What you mean is that the person holds money in as high regard as someone would a god.Addressing your other points, the Sierra Club gathers, organizes, and proselytizes. So does your local union. Or HOA. None of these are religions.I know I am equivocating, because the only real difference is in interpretation. If I believe that a relationship with god is of utmost importance, and there is no god, it's not actually different than believing I can save the world from catastrophic climate change.Religion is practice. Religion is not belief. I believe in some sort of higher intelligence to the universe(kinda like what Einstein said), but I am not at all religious.
ciberido: log_jammin: mamoru: How so? And, I really do mean that as an honest question. I'm just an (apathetic agnostic) atheist, so don't really know much about all of these "official" factions and movements and such. What are the atheism+ people and what makes them assholes?long story short, you're either with them or you're a misogynist.As opposed to say, the New Atheists, where you're either with them or you're a drooling moron.
namatad: rule one of atheism: no vegansno reallythat was the first rulewell it is the first rule in my church of atheismour three sacraments are:sexdrugsgamblingand meatof four sacraments
s2s2s2: gimmegimme: s2s2s2: gimmegimme: colon_pow: isn't that just darling? the hipsters want to play church just like the gays want to play house.[religionpoisons.files.wordpress.com image 450x266]Nothing better to dissuade the religious than quotes from fictional figures.[www.atheistmemebase.com image 545x380]Do you think that's a counterpoint?
OhioKnight: The guy who started this should just go to his local UU church. Unitarianism Universalism has no prescribed supernatural beliefs and contains some huge percentage of Atheists."Our mother or father, who may or may not be in heaven..."
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Saying that atheism is a religion is an insult to religions.
Felgraf: With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.
Felgraf: So. Uh. Yes. I have heard people say that
namatad: rational thought is not a religion, nor brain washing
Prophet of Loss: But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.Others believe differently.
Prophet of Loss: Quantum physics disagrees with you.
Prophet of Loss: But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.
DerAppie: //Buy my book
cassapolis: Does anyone else ever feel like they're the only person that actually RTFA? I only read the first 20 or so comments. The collective I.Q. here is plummeting. I haz a sad now
LonMead: omeganuepsilon: It's not like it's convoluted, "There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of silly things. I hope you don't fall in line with that." is hardly indoctrination. You sort of need a doctrine to do that.Such as Atheism.
Prophet of Loss: In before "Atheism is not a religion"./quacks like a duck
IronTom: If they believe in nothing, how can there be a schism?Did they divide by zero?
hardinparamedic: "And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, a Merry Christmas - and God bless all of you, all of you on the good Earth."
hardinparamedic: Say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism, but at least it was an ethos.
Confabulat: I'm going to go ahead and point out that's the joke.
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