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(CNN)   The official Atheist church just launched last year, but there's already a schism in the congregation. That religion of yours is getting complicated, guys   (religion.blogs.cnn.com ) divider line
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2014-01-06 05:00:42 AM  

Prophet of Loss: quacks like a duck


Sincerely doubt your particular brand of mental aberration qualifies you for understanding why atheists identify themselves as such..

/barks like a frog
 
2014-01-06 05:00:44 AM  

Prophet of Loss: In before "Atheism is not a religion".

/quacks like a duck


Lulz, you're a bit late.  Lots of whiteknighting going on already. Which is just and right, since they're so clearly superior.
 
2014-01-06 05:01:47 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Any room for us Flat Earth Atheist?


Just slip 'em in under the door.
 
2014-01-06 05:05:45 AM  
What a bunch of fruitcakes.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-06 05:05:49 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: I think I want to start a 12-step program for non-addicts. I feel I'm missing out on all the sharing and stale donuts that addicts get.


Crap. Does this mean I have to start smoking again?
 
2014-01-06 05:08:09 AM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: Prophet of Loss: quacks like a duck

Sincerely doubt your particular brand of mental aberration qualifies you for understanding why atheists identify themselves as such..

/barks like a frog


LOL, you sound like a lot of religious people I know ...
 
2014-01-06 05:10:27 AM  

Prophet of Loss: you sound like a lot of religious people I know ..


Given that I have yet to reference sky faeries, I'm going to require some empirical evidence of this before accepting it as anything other than delusional butt-hurt masquerading as lulz...
 
2014-01-06 05:10:42 AM  
wherever two or three are gathered in mutual enmity
 
2014-01-06 05:11:00 AM  

fusillade762: He also said he advised them to leave the dive bar "where women wore bikinis," in favor of a more family-friendly venue.

You know, now that I think about I don't like this "family friendly" idea. Just as I don't think children should be indoctrinated into religion I wouldn't want them indoctrinated into atheism. Let them grow up and make up their own minds.


What? Tell me you're trolling. It's not like it's convoluted, "There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of silly things. I hope you don't fall in line with that." is hardly indoctrination.  You sort of need a doctrine to do that.
 
2014-01-06 05:18:14 AM  

namatad: fusillade762: He also said he advised them to leave the dive bar "where women wore bikinis," in favor of a more family-friendly venue.

You know, now that I think about I don't like this "family friendly" idea. Just as I don't think children should be indoctrinated into religion I wouldn't want them indoctrinated into atheism. Let them grow up and make up their own minds.

all religion is brainwashing
atheism is not a religion

rational thought is not a religion, nor brain washing


You're one of those militant, "born-again" atheists. The "I'm right and anyone who thinks different is an idiot" atheists. I've heard certain denominations of Christians say their church is not a religion, just the truth.
/check your superiority at the door
//and your fedora
 
2014-01-06 05:24:33 AM  

DubyaHater: You're one of those militant<...>


That's not how "militant" works.

When I meet an adult with unimpaired cognitive facilities who professes to believe in sky faeries I will call them out on it because it is hilarious and weirdly disturbing.

If my taunting them results in the sort of childish pique witnessed in adolescents discovering Santa Claus was a lie, well that's just funnier still...
 
2014-01-06 05:25:00 AM  
omeganuepsilon:  It's not like it's convoluted, "There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of silly things. I hope you don't fall in line with that." is hardly indoctrination.  You sort of need a doctrine to do that.

Such as Atheism.
 
2014-01-06 05:26:48 AM  
Can I launch a not-a-windsurfer club and what the hell does that even mean? An atheist church is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
 
2014-01-06 05:29:56 AM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: That's not how "militant" works.


It's the modern usage.

You know, "I don't have anything against blacks, it's those *militant* blacks...." and, "I don't have anything against gays, it's those *militant* gays....," and, "oh, I love women, it's those *militant* feminists that get to me!"

It basically means, "a member of a minority group that doesn't accept his or her subordination."
 
2014-01-06 05:33:23 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: It basically means, "a member of a minority group that doesn't accept his or her subordination."


I've always understood it to be a lame straw-man mock-up used to denigrate the opposition without the need to refer to anything factual...
 
2014-01-06 05:34:33 AM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: Lenny_da_Hog: It basically means, "a member of a minority group that doesn't accept his or her subordination."

I've always understood it to be a lame straw-man mock-up used to denigrate the opposition without the need to refer to anything factual...


Naw. See "uppity" for a synonym.
 
2014-01-06 05:41:17 AM  

LonMead: omeganuepsilon:  It's not like it's convoluted, "There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of silly things. I hope you don't fall in line with that." is hardly indoctrination.  You sort of need a doctrine to do that.

Such as Atheism.


Citation Needed
 
2014-01-06 05:42:25 AM  
These people are fundie plants tasked with giving fundies an excuse to say atheists are a religion.
 
GBB
2014-01-06 05:43:32 AM  

SpdrJay: Science dammit!


I study science.  That's why I joined up with the Scientologists.
 
2014-01-06 05:45:58 AM  
Does anyone else ever feel like they're the only person that actually RTFA? I only read the first 20 or so comments. The collective I.Q. here is plummeting. I haz a sad now
 
2014-01-06 05:46:21 AM  

omeganuepsilon: LonMead: omeganuepsilon:  It's not like it's convoluted, "There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of silly things. I hope you don't fall in line with that." is hardly indoctrination.  You sort of need a doctrine to do that.

Such as Atheism.

Citation Needed


Specifics needed
 
2014-01-06 05:47:22 AM  

Prophet of Loss: In before "Atheism is not a religion".

/quacks like a duck



Not believing in anything is a belief! You're a superstar amongst geniuses.

/quarks, Einstein
 
2014-01-06 05:47:39 AM  
There has always been a human need for ritual of some sort.
I suspect that it's been both profound ignorance and the need for such ritual that has kept religion going for as long as it has.

I have yet to see a group, humanist, atheist or anything in between that instead of just providing communal entertainment proposed to talk about current social and ethical issues.  Professional organizations have these sorts of courses built right in to their professional licensing requirements under the term "professional ethics".

It would be brilliant accomplishment for any organization to gather people under the same roof to discuss ethical and social issues.  It would be even better if they could invite proponents of different sides of the issue to speak on these issues.  For example, next Sunday, the theme could be "Does absolute power corrupt?"  Jamie Dimon and Bill Gates would speak.

Until such an organization forms, I'll just stay home and watch documentaries.
 
2014-01-06 05:49:21 AM  

LonMead: omeganuepsilon:  It's not like it's convoluted, "There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of silly things. I hope you don't fall in line with that." is hardly indoctrination.  You sort of need a doctrine to do that.

Such as Atheism.


Responding to someone calling you "silly" by demonstrating that you don't understand the difference between someone pointing out that your extraordinary claim has no proof and them making an extraordinary claim themselves... isn't really a counter-argument so much as pointing out that they should have gone with "stupid" instead of "silly".
 
2014-01-06 05:49:48 AM  

cassapolis: Does anyone else ever feel like they're the only person that actually RTFA? I only read the first 20 or so comments. The collective I.Q. here is plummeting. I haz a sad now


I left my pills for that in another thread.
 
2014-01-06 05:51:41 AM  

omeganuepsilon: fusillade762: He also said he advised them to leave the dive bar "where women wore bikinis," in favor of a more family-friendly venue.

You know, now that I think about I don't like this "family friendly" idea. Just as I don't think children should be indoctrinated into religion I wouldn't want them indoctrinated into atheism. Let them grow up and make up their own minds.

What? Tell me you're trolling. It's not like it's convoluted, "There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of silly things. I hope you don't fall in line with that." is hardly indoctrination.  You sort of need a doctrine to do that.


Considering that these people appear to have a schism based on social issues and how to behave morally (don't go to dive bars, go to family friendly establishments) I'd say that they are pretty well on their way to establishing a doctrine.

/How to be a good Atheist
//Buy my book
///Required reading, but definitely not a bible
 
2014-01-06 05:52:49 AM  
Smells like atheism Animal Farm addition. (Just as long as they don't start slaughtering people, I'm just going to sit back here with my popcorn and enjoy the fireworks.)
 
2014-01-06 05:54:31 AM  

DerAppie: //Buy my book


Na-ah. Buy *my* book. Easier read, faux beaver cover and it has a laugh-track.
 
2014-01-06 06:02:32 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: cassapolis: Does anyone else ever feel like they're the only person that actually RTFA? I only read the first 20 or so comments. The collective I.Q. here is plummeting. I haz a sad now

I left my pills for that in another thread.


...but don't feel sorry for me. I'm glad I had a second chance in life like you said to be smart because I learned a lot of things that I never knew were in this world, and I'm grateful I saw it even for a little bit.

//Passed TFA on the way up, and then on the way down, and I don't think I shall R this FA again.
 
2014-01-06 06:08:56 AM  

Jim_Callahan: After a schism, a question: Can atheist churches last?

Headline in the form of a question, so the answer is as always the exact opposite of what is being implied, e.g. in this case atheist churches can, in fact, last.



Betteridge's law of headlines states pretty much that any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word 'no'?
 
2014-01-06 06:09:22 AM  

GungFu: Prophet of Loss: In before "Atheism is not a religion".

/quacks like a duck


Not believing in anything is a belief! You're a superstar amongst geniuses.

/quarks, Einstein


But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.

Others believe differently.
 
2014-01-06 06:14:55 AM  

DerAppie: omeganuepsilon: fusillade762: He also said he advised them to leave the dive bar "where women wore bikinis," in favor of a more family-friendly venue.

You know, now that I think about I don't like this "family friendly" idea. Just as I don't think children should be indoctrinated into religion I wouldn't want them indoctrinated into atheism. Let them grow up and make up their own minds.

What? Tell me you're trolling. It's not like it's convoluted, "There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of silly things. I hope you don't fall in line with that." is hardly indoctrination.  You sort of need a doctrine to do that.

Considering that these people appear to have a schism based on social issues and how to behave morally (don't go to dive bars, go to family friendly establishments) I'd say that they are pretty well on their way to establishing a doctrine.

/How to be a good Atheist
//Buy my book
///Required reading, but definitely not a bible


But "those people" are not the entire group that is atheism in general, hence my reply.

Although it does stand to logic.  The "church"(if we are to only talk about that) is a construct meant to replace the social parts of religion.  It stands to reason that they'd do so in a place that's "family friendly".

A dive bar is going to exclude a lot of people.  Using it as an excuse to have a bunch of hipsters in your bar is not the same thing.
 
2014-01-06 06:15:08 AM  

Prophet of Loss: But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.


I'm an atheist and a determinist. Nothing is an accident. Everything happens the only way it can happen.
 
2014-01-06 06:16:09 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Prophet of Loss: But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.

I'm an atheist and a determinist. Nothing is an accident. Everything happens the only way it can happen.


Quantum physics disagrees with you.
 
2014-01-06 06:17:18 AM  

mamoru: What are the atheism+ people and what makes them assholes?


They're feminists first and atheists second, of the "join us or be cast out" variety.

More divisiveness from the Atheism Plus crowd
 
2014-01-06 06:17:42 AM  

Prophet of Loss: Lenny_da_Hog: Prophet of Loss: But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.

I'm an atheist and a determinist. Nothing is an accident. Everything happens the only way it can happen.

Quantum physics disagrees with you.


No, it doesn't, unless you read science fiction.
 
2014-01-06 06:18:32 AM  

Prophet of Loss: But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.


You do realize that atheism is generally about  not anthropomorphising statistical and natural forces, right?  And that something being an "accident" requires that one anthropomorphize statistical and natural forces?

I'm actually rooting for trolling here because if you're actually mouthing off so loudly with a declaration that is essentially "hey, look at how stupid I am over here and how I fail to understand the basic definitions of words and shiat" then I'm going to actually have to feel kind of sad for how terrible you are and how much your mental deficiencies must make your life suck.
 
2014-01-06 06:20:23 AM  

Prophet of Loss: Quantum physics disagrees with you.



imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-01-06 06:22:05 AM  

Prophet of Loss: Lenny_da_Hog: Prophet of Loss: But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.

I'm an atheist and a determinist. Nothing is an accident. Everything happens the only way it can happen.

Quantum physics disagrees with you.


Ok, everything occurring above the nanometer scale happens the only way it can happen then.

//QM doesn't mean what the Woo books you've been reading seem to have led you to believe it means.  It still collapses into classical physics on the macro scale, i.e. the scale on which human biology and the shiat we interact with operates on.
 
2014-01-06 06:24:50 AM  

Jim_Callahan: //QM doesn't mean what the Woo books you've been reading seem to have led you to believe it means.  It still collapses into classical physics on the macro scale, i.e. the scale on which human biology and the shiat we interact with operates on.


And it's only useful in predicting what might or might not occur. In the end, only what will occur does occur.
 
2014-01-06 06:27:02 AM  
i232.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-06 06:29:56 AM  
"Compassionate Conservatism"
"Moral Majority"
"Random Order"
"Fresh Frozen"
"Recorded Live"
"Military Intelligence"
"Religious Education"
"Government Integrity"
"Atheist Church"
 
2014-01-06 06:31:58 AM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: Prophet of Loss: you sound like a lot of religious people I know ..

Given that I have yet to reference sky faeries, I'm going to require some empirical evidence of this before accepting it as anything other than delusional butt-hurt masquerading as lulz...


I'm guessing you count "witty banter" as exercise, since I'm gonna guess you are in desperate need of it.
 
2014-01-06 06:32:51 AM  
Atheist church has got the be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.  As one of our famous prophets said "The best part of being an atheist is it takes so little of your time".
 
2014-01-06 06:34:45 AM  

Prophet of Loss: But you do believe in something jackass, you believe that the universe, life, and everything is a accident.

Others believe differently.


This is relevant how? Also, if you're referencing the atheists who discount the biblical farce of creation, you probably aren't processing that whole scientific method thing correctly and would likely need to go develop your own conclusions based on personal research and reflection..

I get that theists prefer to have someone tell them what to believe, but you really should think about engaging your critical faculties... 

Just because you believe in sentient purple spigots invading Saturn doesn't make it true.
 
2014-01-06 06:35:55 AM  

Mr.Tangent: Atheist church has got the be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.  As one of our famous prophets said "The best part of being an atheist is it takes so little of your time".


Only if you're doing it right.
 
2014-01-06 06:38:51 AM  
Would it be easier for people to believe we are organic robots settled here eons ago by the aliens that brought us here to create the pyramids?

That would be a kick-ass religion!  I give you the beginning of Robotalienism.  The headgear alone has some amazing promise I think.
 
2014-01-06 06:42:36 AM  
nulluspixiusdemonica: I get that theists prefer to have someone tell them what to believe, but you really should think about engaging your critical faculties...

You mean, kind of like the way you prefer to tell us what we should believe?
 
2014-01-06 06:42:41 AM  

mamoru: what makes them assholes?


Anyone who puts a plus sign at the end of a word and calls it XXXX Plus is an enemy of learning and knowledge.
 
2014-01-06 06:44:51 AM  

LonMead: You mean, kind of like the way you prefer to tell us what we should believe?


I told someone what to believe? Where?
 
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